Trump World -USA-2019


Cliffy
Free Thinker
+1
#3901
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
#3902
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

The exact same thing could have been said about Lincoln, Winston Churchill, F.D.R., Harry Truman. Where would the world be today if not for those guys?


LOLOLOL!


You think Trump is equal to THEM?!


OMFG you ARE Blissful!
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
#3903
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post



There is a good point raised by this...


Iran WAS complying with the treaty, the US pulled out of it but the other nations kept with it.


So what will they do now that the US has assassinated - and admittedly and openly stated it - one of their people?
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
+1
#3904
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

There is a good point raised by this...


Iran WAS complying with the treaty, the US pulled out of it but the other nations kept with it.


So what will they do now that the US has assassinated - and admittedly and openly stated it - one of their people?

Well , right now.......they and the world are in shock.....

Imagine...... Iran following the agreement........... the US pulls out like a toddler having a temper tantrum......... then the US puts heavy sanctions on Iran........and now this. Who is the real problem?? The US wants to be the only one with nukes.......
Meanwhile Trump is gloating over his first premeditated assassination. and the ME is even more unstable...... which isnot helping to maintain stability on the planet.

We need to see the intelligence that was used to justify this.. The same intelligence agency that Trump has degraded and bashed .......... Trump expects everyone to believe only him........ a pathological liar. Where secrecy is becoming more and more prominent. THAT is not healthy or positive in a "democracy.............

The "imminent threat" thing they are promoting has as much credibility as the imminent threat from Saddam non existent WMD. and remember how Saddam was butchered in the most barbaric manner.....

They killed Bin Laden in front of his family..........like barbarians.........that they claim to hate.

Qaddafi was slaughtered in a barbaric fashion too..........

There is a pattern now........of how uncivilised the US really is. The sad thing is that the US cannot complain about ANY anti Americanism...........as it is justified.....and US created.
Last edited by Ocean Breeze; Jan 4th, 2020 at 03:04 AM..
 
Walter
+1
#3905
Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaEmber View Post

I see on today's news Trump did something displaying his lack of consideration for consequences yet again by having that Iranian general offed. Apparently he doesn't think Iran will want payback. DUH
Also, apparently Russia isn't impressed. DUH

But Trump takes orders from Poutine.
 
Walter
#3906
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I kind of think there is a good likelihood that before Trump did what he did, he had a little more knowledge of the matter at hand than the average person nattering on the forum. There is probably a good chance that he has been listening to his advisors. I doubt if upon arising in the morning he flips a coin to make a decision.

FDR set the price of gold by using his lucky numbers.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#3907
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

LOLOLOL!


You think Trump is equal to THEM?!


OMFG you ARE Blissful!


Is "equal" the proper word? Are ANY two people equal?
 
spilledthebeer
#3908
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

You got it bass ackwards, Sonny. What is crippling our economy is going into debt in the first place. Would YOU lend someone money w/o getting paid some interest?


THANK YOU for making my point yet again........................


oh muddled and Joyless LIE-beral Monkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As I stated - it is the weight of all that borrowed money............................


and the INTEREST CHARGED that is breaking us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How sad that your selfish GREED blinds you to the truth!!!!!!!!

 
spilledthebeer
#3909
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

You haven't been paying attention at all, have you?


Trump's reason to do this? "Stop a war".


What this really might do? "Start a war".






POOR BLIND FOOLISH Serryah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wars are BAD- and we agree in this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


TRADE WARS are NOT GOOD...................................


BUT fighting a Trade War is BETTER THAN DOING NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Fighting a trade war will cost us ................................


but doing nothing will COST US EVEN MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



You are too blinkered to see that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HOW SAD FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !




Here is an article illustrating how little LIE-berals understand about trade balances and economics or the military build up of our enemies!! With some comments of my own in brackets):

The economic madness of Mr. Tariff Man

By Desmond Lachman, Opinion Contributor to The Hill

Published December 5, 2019

It is said that those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.

(And LIE-berals are INSANE - if they think that a strongly Socialist program will bring long term peace and stability in United States!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Judging by President Trump's recent decision to breathe new life into the world trade war despite the presidential election now being less than one year away, it would seem that the gods are conspiring to destroy him. This would especially appear to be the case considering that if there is one thing that can precipitate a U.S. economic recession next year, it is an escalation in the world trade war.

(LIE-berals are IGNORING the ugly reality that Red China and Iran and Russia are ALL using their trade connections to the West to build up their military forces - so they CAN THREATEN and bully the West!! And that North Korea is building up its forces IN SPITE of a comprehensive trade embargo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

In its recent World Economic Outlook Report, the IMF took stock of the damage to the global economy wrought by the trade war. It noted that primary as a result of that war, the world economy has moved from a situation in 2018 in which 75 percent of the world's economies were experiencing economic upswings to one today in which 90 percent of the world's economies are experiencing economic slowdowns.

(Trade wars are MUCH CHEAPER than shooting wars - and Russia. China, Iran and North Korea are all pulling ideas from the Nazi and Imperial Japan era FASCIST play book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Until very recently, it seemed that President Trump was starting to grasp the damage that his trade wars were inflicting on the global economy. It also seemed that he grasped how interconnected the U.S. economy and financial markets are with those abroad. It further seemed that Trump appreciated the trade war risks to the U.S. economy in the run up to next year's election.

(Yes- modern LIE-berals are taking THEIR ideas from the Neville Chamberlain APPEASEMENT play book and we KNOW that did NOT WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Trump began back-peddling on his trade war rhetoric, and he took a very much softer line on China's unfair trade practices. In particular, he delayed the threatened imposition of further import tariffs on China and opted instead for trying to negotiate a temporary trade truce that would carry him through next year's election. He also delayed following through on his threat to impose a 25 percent import tariff on European and Japanese automobiles.

(Trump must do his deals with China while a line of LIE-berals lean over his shoulder and telegraphs his best cards to our enemies - while THEY get to handle their cards in MUCH GREATER SECRECY!! LIE-beral hostility to Trump is so severe they would rather see China win - than concede anything to Trump!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Trump's more measured approach to trade policy clearly pleased the markets, as underlined by the U.S. stock market hitting all-time highs on a regular basis. But it seemed to have displeased the gods. This might explain why the gods have made Trump make yet another ill-considered lurch back towards a very much more restrictive trade policy.

(Yes- business people prefer to concentrate on making money - so much so that - as an example - in summer 1942 - British agents finally managed to convince President Roosevelt that Standard Oil Co. was actually REFUELING Nazi U-boats - by selling diesel oil to Vichy French controlled islands in the Carribean Sea - oil that was immediately loaded onto U-boats in the dead of night and which then sailed off to sink Yankee ships!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(IN similar fashion -Chinese agents are swarming the world stealing all manner of technology from the gullible West! Recently a Chinese doctor working with Cdns on medical research was expelled from Canada because of suspect contacts with Beijing - the fear being that the Chinese were seeking to WEAPONIZE certain bacteria- making it much more dangerous and then being able to sell us the CURE - at a HUGE PROFIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(China has over a billion people to feed - and their expectations for living standard rise yearly- and govt fears riots if demands are not met - even worse - the “one child policy has made a HUGE SOCIAL MESS now that the population is aging and the govt fears “The Little Emperors” - the spoiled brats who are now adults - WILL NOT do the heavy lifting to support a huge mass of old folks!! Unlike Canada - the Chinese govt simply WILL NOT Open its borders to immigrants in order to acquire a new supply of young people - China fears the foreign values of immigrants!!!!!!!!!)

(The Chinese govt is increasingly desperate - the Hong Kong protrestors are simply their most public problem and thus Beijing Butchers might look favourably on a doctor that could aid them in blackmailing the West with weaponized bacteria and a costly cure to sell to the West!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Such is the PATHETIC business sense of some western corporate CEO`s and will-
fully blind LIE-beral cowards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The opening salvo in the new trade war was an early morning tweet this week from Trump that import tariffs would be re-imposed on Argentine and Brazilian aluminum and steel. The justification offered for those tariffs was that those two countries were purportedly manipulating their currencies to the detriment of U.S. farmers.

Never mind that the recent Argentine and Brazilian currency weakness was prompted by economic weakness at home and by the social unrest now sweeping through Latin America. Never mind too that the re-imposition of those tariffs is bound to weaken those economies, which will only heighten social unrest in that region.

(And South America is an economic basket case due to its long time fascination with Socialism and DEFICIT FINANCING!! The chaos in Venezuela is only the most extreme example of the Southern Socialist madness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Not satisfied with broadening his trade war to Latin America, Trump has now fired an opening shot across Europe's bows. He has done so by threatening to impose a 100 percent import tariff on $2.4 billion in French luxury products. This has heightened fears in Europe that Trump might at some stage follow through on his threat to impose import tariffs on European automobiles.

(And WHY NOT DO SO?? IF European Union wants continued Yankee military protection - then why should they not pay something for it?? The British at least have an understanding of defence matters and realize that you can either pay for your own - on your terms - or you can do as many others do -and RELY on Yankees to protect you as and when they see fit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Certainly Canada is playing that lunatic game of expecting Yankees to BOTH PROTECT US - and respect our sovereignty and independence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Of yet greater concern for the world economic outlook has been Trump's recent hardening of his line towards China. After actively seeking a phase-one trade deal with China, he is now saying that he is in no hurry to strike a deal before the 2020 election. This follows his being forced to sign a congressional bill in support of the Hong Kong protestors, which has soured U.S.-Chinese diplomatic relations.

(The Chinese approach to the world HAS BEEN hardening as well - it seems likely the ONLY REASON the Hong Kong protestors HAVE NOT endured a Tiananmen style massacre is because the Beijing Butchers FEAR that such an atrocity might alarm western LIE-berals to the RE-EMERGING SOVIET THREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

A factor making Trump's recent re-escalation of the trade war all the more difficult to understand is the failure of his America First policy to deliver its promised results. Not only has it had the effect of plunging the world economy into a synchronized slowdown. It has also failed to prevent a widening under Trump's watch in the U.S. trade deficit by more than a third.

(The “America First” policy has done much to restore the trade imbalance that plagued previous Yankee govts!! The Yankee employment rates are setting wonderful new records and wages are good as well!! Compare the Yankee economic results to that of the STAGNANT Cdn economy led by LIE-berals notorious for their love of “basic Chinese democracy”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The last thing that the Trump administration can be accused of is its trade policy consistency. This gives cause for hope that Trump's latest lurch towards increased protectionism will be short-lived. If that proves not to be the case, it will not only be Trump who will be paying a political price for his trade policy madness. It will also be the U.S. and global economies that will be paying a heavy price in terms of lost output and employment.

(Yes- Trump is caught between the need for Tough dealing - and the need to PLACATE WHINING LIE-berals by making major compromises and thus retaining some voter support!! LIE-berals support th foolish and gullible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Desmond Lachman is a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. He was formerly a deputy director in the International Monetary Fund's Policy Development and Review Department and the chief emerging market economic strategist at Salomon Smith Barney.

(And it seems likely that Mr. Lachman has focussed ONLY ON ECONOMICS and has NEVER studied any military history!! Otherwise the LIE-beral imbecile might be much more worried about Western security!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#3910
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

How sad that your selfish GREED blinds you to the truth!!!!!!!!


Greedy? In what way?
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
+3
#3911
Seems Trump is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. The Dems were complaining that Trump didn't "do anything" when the drone was shot down and then when there's an opportunity to take a serious murderer out without any civilian casualties and he does so, now he's a murderer himself. He simply can't win for losing. Nothing new here. He did the right thing and has saved lives by doing so (and not just American lives either). This dude was truly evil!!


Trump for 2020!!
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#3912
Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

Seems Trump is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. The Dems were complaining that Trump didn't "do anything" when the drone was shot down and then when there's an opportunity to take a serious murderer out without any civilian casualties and he does so, now he's a murderer himself. He simply can't win for losing. Nothing new here. He did the right thing and has saved lives by doing so (and not just American lives either). This dude was truly evil!!


Trump for 2020!!


You "see the light", Dixie! Too bad so many others on here can't! Trump did the world a favour yesterday!
 
AnnaEmber
No Party Affiliation
+1
#3913
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

But Trump takes orders from Poutine.

Poutine's puppet had its strings crossed.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#3914
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

A month-by-month look at Donald Trump's top lies of 2019
Washington (CNN)A defining feature of the Donald Trump presidency is the bombardment of lies -- Trump's unceasing campaign to convince people of things that aren't true.
Trump made more than 2,700 false claims this year. (We're still calculating the final total.) Some of them were innocent slips, some of them little exaggerations. But a large number of them were whoppers: deliberate, significant attempts to deceive and manipulate.
The breadth of the dishonesty was as striking as the frequency. Trump was inaccurate this year about every conceivable topic, from his dealings with Ukraine to the size of his crowds to, literally, the time of day.
He told too many lies for us to confidently pick a single most notable lie of the year. So we've picked our 12 most notable, one for every month. (We're defining notable as some combination of egregious, important and bizarre.)
More: https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/31/polit...ale/index.html

Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

CNN, tee-hee.

I wonder what the +/- would be on the number of lies CNN told about Trump, compared to their Trump lie accusation
 
AnnaEmber
No Party Affiliation
+1 / -1
#3915
Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

Seems Trump is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. The Dems were complaining that Trump didn't "do anything" when the drone was shot down and then when there's an opportunity to take a serious murderer out without any civilian casualties and he does so, now he's a murderer himself. He simply can't win for losing. Nothing new here. He did the right thing and has saved lives by doing so (and not just American lives either). This dude was truly evil!!


Trump for 2020!!

Trump has always acted like the dude that would smash a mosquito with a sledge hammer. He has no tact, no self-control, no restraint, and no concern for consequences.
Yes, the Iranian general was an a-hole and deserved to be offed, but people (I'm betting Israelis) other than Trump will pay for Trump's impulsiveness.
 
spilledthebeer
#3916
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LUNATIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!


Iranians are NOT BLACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



They are a LIGHT BROWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND THEY ARE PERSIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


They GET PISSED if you call them Arabs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As for any Persian "accomplishments.................................. ....


as a whole series of mouth breathing radical Muslims terrorists have PROVED............................


any imbecile can blow up a crowd of civilians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


or run them over with a STOLEN TRUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or STAB THEM with knives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


The LAST TIME Persians DID ANYTHING NOTABLE was a few thousand years ago .............................


when some Spartans kicked their asses at Thermopylae!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
+2 / -1
#3917
Australia is burning to the ground and There’s an impeached president sitting in the situation room, authorizing International assassinations, without congressional approval. And people will STILL defend that moron in the White House.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#3918
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Australia is burning to the ground and There’s an impeached president sitting in the situation room, authorizing International assassinations, without congressional approval. And people will STILL defend that moron in the White House.


How are the fires in Australia connected to what is happening in Washington D.C.? Does control of these fires fall within the realm of Trump's expertise?
 
Walter
#3919
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

How are the fires in Australia connected to what is happening in Washington D.C.? Does control of these fires fall within the realm of Trump's expertise?

Progs be dumb.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#3920
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Progs be dumb.


Probably best to avoid denigrating the author but the statement certainly was!
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#3921
Nothing much has changed...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5JCrSXkJY


Buffalo Springfield - For What It's Worth 1967
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#3922
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

You haven't been paying attention at all, have you?


Trump's reason to do this? "Stop a war".


What this really might do? "Start a war".

Why , do you think Iran is a peaceful neighbour ? Should the US always turn the other cheek ?
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#3923
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

Bliss.

Reality .
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#3924
Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaEmber View Post

Killing one of theirs will sure stop the terrorizing. /s I ran isn't al-Quaeda. It won't roll over and play dead.
I guess you have no idea what dedication is.

So even if they don’t roll over , what can they do to America ? America has the power to level the whole country of Iran in twenty four hours , without using nuclear weapons .
Iran on the other hand was fought to a stand still by lowly Iraq .
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#3925
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

The exact same thing could have been said about Lincoln, Winston Churchill, F.D.R., Harry Truman. Where would the world be today if not for those guys?

Black Lives Matter might still be in chains .
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#3926
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

This guy also believes that Iran does not have nuclear ambitions. Reliable source .
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#3927
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

LOLOLOL!


You think Trump is equal to THEM?!


OMFG you ARE Blissful!

Realism , not bliss . Take your blinders off and join the winning team .
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#3928
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

There is a good point raised by this...


Iran WAS complying with the treaty, the US pulled out of it but the other nations kept with it.


So what will they do now that the US has assassinated - and admittedly and openly stated it - one of their people?

So Iran has stopped funding terrorist attacks on western nations ? Good to know .
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#3929
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Well , right now.......they and the world are in shock.....

Imagine...... Iran following the agreement........... the US pulls out like a toddler having a temper tantrum......... then the US puts heavy sanctions on Iran........and now this. Who is the real problem?? The US wants to be the only one with nukes.......
Meanwhile Trump is gloating over his first premeditated assassination. and the ME is even more unstable...... which isnot helping to maintain stability on the planet.

We need to see the intelligence that was used to justify this.. The same intelligence agency that Trump has degraded and bashed .......... Trump expects everyone to believe only him........ a pathological liar. Where secrecy is becoming more and more prominent. THAT is not healthy or positive in a "democracy.............

The "imminent threat" thing they are promoting has as much credibility as the imminent threat from Saddam non existent WMD. and remember how Saddam was butchered in the most barbaric manner.....

They killed Bin Laden in front of his family..........like barbarians.........that they claim to hate.

Qaddafi was slaughtered in a barbaric fashion too..........

There is a pattern now........of how uncivilised the US really is. The sad thing is that the US cannot complain about ANY anti Americanism...........as it is justified.....and US created.

shocking
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#3930
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

But Trump takes orders from Poutine.

Yup around and around .
 

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