Couple says they were beaten by bouncers at Calgary bar


Praxius
#1


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/sto...complaint.html

Quote:

A Calgary couple claims they were beaten up by several bouncers outside a downtown bar last week.

"I'm 120 pounds. I could have easily been restrained," Laura Rumboldt told CBC News, adding that she and husband Patrick Tomren were punched and kicked by five bouncers at the Mile One Urban Tavern last Friday.

"I just don't understand where that line is they took it way too far."

Rumboldt had gone outside and tried to re-enter the bar, which is against bar policy, when the incident allegedly happened.

"Tell me to leave, that's one thing. Throw me out so I physically have to pick myself up off the ground, that's another thing," she said, showing cuts and bruises on her arms.

Tomren, who sports his own bruises and scrapes, said he just wanted to stop the bouncers from hitting his wife.

"My big concern was stopping them from hitting her, so I ran to grab her. All I was trying to do was get to her. They were pushing and kicking me and punching me. Some huge guy punched me in the head," he said.

"I've never experienced anything like that in my life. I'm not a city person I don't know if that's common in the city."

Bar owner Ramsay Haymour said that his staff has told him a different version of events, saying Rumboldt became "belligerent and physical towards our door staff trying to physically get in."

"That's when she was physically moved outside," he said. When asked about Rumboldt's allegations that more than one bouncer kicked her and punched her, Haymour said, "As far as I know, that wasn't the case."

He said his door staff have given statements to police and are co-operating with the investigation. Officers said there was alcohol involved and they have heard different accounts of what transpired.

The couple said they plan to sue the bar and bouncers. They also said they would like to see the rules regarding in-house security toughened.

The province has moved to do so, with a new training program under the Alcohol and Gaming Commission that will require bouncers and security staff to complete six hours of classroom instruction.

Minister of Public Security Fred Lindsay said he believes six hours of instruction is a good place to start.

"We're going to monitor the program and if we think they need additional training, we'll look at it later on," he said. "It's six hours more than they have right now."

This summer, Ontario will become the first province to license bouncers and other in-house security staff. The new legislation will require staff to register, have clean criminal records and receive 40 hours of classroom instruction on subjects such as basic security procedures and sensitivity training.

 
karrie
#2
I love how so many women assume they get a pass on being drunk and belligerent because of their size and gender. There are a lot that act like they're untouchable, who feel they can act ten times more obnoxious than any male in a bar, and get away with it, 'cause I'm just a girl'. Well, let me tell you, I've seen plenty of men tossed out of bars, men who might not even weigh 120lbs, and no one pleads their case to the press when a bouncer has to toss them for the multitude of things that they end up tossed for, like trying to get in when they've been told no.
 
Praxius
#3
Agreed.... I mean, I'm pretty sure they were told they were not allowed back in if they left (Which is kinda dumb, since all the ones around here give you a stamp so you can get back in..... cover charge is expensive these days)

But regardless, it's their bar, their rules... you're not allowed back in if you leave. If you try and force yourself back in, then don't cry to the media when the bouncers bounce your head off the curb as they give you the toss.

Drunks always like to exaggerate their issues to make sure they don't sound like they were responsible.
 
Zzarchov
#4
While I don't disagree with being thrown out,

I also never recalled voting towards giving untrained unlisenced staff to use the kind of force a cop can get suspended for, on public property (they were thrown out into the street already).

If the bouncers assaulted someone in the street, charge them with assault.

Throwing the person off private property though (even violently) and tough nuggets, stop tresspassing.
 
karrie
#5
It's the 'suing' that sets off red flags for me Zz, and implies that there is no grounds for assault once they hit the street. If there's a criminal case, press criminal charges. But suing? Call me jaded I guess.
 
gerryh
#6
Just a couple of white trailer trash tryin to make a quick buck.
 
lone wolf
#7
Bouncers seem to like the power that's bestowed upon them by the church. It's time they had to be licenced and examined from time to time.
 
karrie
#8
Yeah, licensing and periodic checks would be a good thing. A good bar trains their guys anyway. I tend to avoid the bars where I know the bouncers have reps for beating people though... maybe that's just me. I prefer to hang out at more quiet places though, so, I may not be a good judge.
 
lone wolf
#9
Back home, we had a peeler bar who hired strykers from the local chapter of a wannabe bike gang for security. In three weeks, the place was ashes. They were three busy weeks for the local constabulary though....
 
shadowshiv
#10
Bouncers are licensed now. They have the same card that I have as a Security Guard. They have to apply for it once a year, and there are various circumstances that can cause them to be denied a license.

The name on the card that you are given is 'Private Security & Investigative Services', and it is pretty expensive($80). Thankfully it is covered by my security company now(since we finally got a new contract a year after our old one expired).

I believe that if a bouncer does not have this card and is found out, then the place of employment will be fined.
 
lone wolf
#11
I heard Ontario was going licenced. If it's a regulatory thing, that's great because bouncers, in some places (like that peeler bar for one) were no better than the goons they were supposed to protect patrons from. Ontario's history for cash cows, though, made me wonder. I don't do the bars, so I'll trust you, Shiv....
 
shadowshiv
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf View Post

I heard Ontario was going licenced. If it's a regulatory thing, that's great because bouncers, in some places (like that peeler bar for one) were no better than the goons they were supposed to protect patrons from. Ontario's history for cash cows, though, made me wonder. I don't do the bars, so I'll trust you, Shiv....

I haven't gone to any bars in quite a few either, lw. I just remember getting a form from our company stating that we would have to get this new license. Bouncers and casino workers(certain ones, I am not sure exactly which ones. Maybe all?) were listed on this page as well.

Ontario seems to like finding new ways to get money from us. Gun registry(what a joke), emissions testing, and now this. I wonder what the next wonderful thing they have in store for us!
 
scratch
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshiv View Post

I haven't gone to any bars in quite a few either, lw. I just remember getting a form from our company stating that we would have to get this new license. Bouncers and casino workers(certain ones, I am not sure exactly which ones. Maybe all?) were listed on this page as well.

Ontario seems to like finding new ways to get money from us. Gun registry(what a joke), emissions testing, and now this. I wonder what the next wonderful thing they have in store for us!

"Ontario: Yours To Discover", and the discoveries can sometimes be painful.
 
L Gilbert
#14
lol The grass isn't any greener over here.
Anyway, I've noticed a trend among people in general the past few years. Used to be if someone got a bloody nose, a few bruises, maybe a split or fat lip, the scrap was pretty much done. These days, several people have to get in on it and the givers happy unless the receiver is tasered a half dozen times or beaten to a pulp. Like the feeding frenzy idea. Over here 4 cops tasered a 78 yr old guy in his hospital bed because he had a pocket knife (and here I was thinking 2 unarmed cops would be able to subdue an old geezer). 7 girls beat another girl to death. Does being unpopular warrant a death sentence?
 

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