"Protestant Thread, all others keep out"


look3467
#1
Hey folks, talk to me about any religious thoughts or beliefs you have.
Perhaps, I may be persuaded, and then again, I may persuade you in the course of the discussion to a different point of view.
Which ever the case, lets talk.
Lets give it a starter question: Should society have some sort of religious guidance?
I mean is it ok for the president to be Catholic, protestant, Jew and or Muslim?
Should our rules and regulations be religiously based?

What say you?

Peace>>>AJ
 
s_lone
#2
Quote: Originally Posted by look3467 View Post

Lets give it a starter question: Should society have some sort of religious guidance?
I mean is it ok for the president to be Catholic, protestant, Jew and or Muslim?
Should our rules and regulations be religiously based?

What say you?

Peace>>>AJ

It's perfectly OK for religious groups to be vocal and say out loud what they think as long as they accept that they are only a voice among many others. Religion can definitely be a source of guidance, but so can many other forms of human associations such as Greenpeace, Unicef etc. ...


It's perfectly OK for a president to be Catholic, protestant, Jew or Muslim as long as he or she draws a crystal clear line between personal religious values and the interests of the people and state. I expect a country leader to fully embrace secularism.

Our rules and regulations should NOT be religiously based. They should be based on common sense.
 
snfu73
#3
Okay...I'm going to show extreme ignorance here...but what is a protestant? How does this fit into the grand scheme of things? I hear all of the labels or the names...but don't know much about the differences.
 
triedit
#4
Isn't a protestant just a non-catholic christian?
 
look3467
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by snfu73 View Post

Okay...I'm going to show extreme ignorance here...but what is a protestant? How does this fit into the grand scheme of things? I hear all of the labels or the names...but don't know much about the differences.

Protestant by what I know is protesting against the Catholic church. Protesters they were, and so protestants.
Basically, all non-Catholics are protestants.

Peace>>>AJ
 
snfu73
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by look3467 View Post

Protestant by what I know is protesting against the Catholic church. Protesters they were, and so protestants.
Basically, all non-Catholics are protestants.

Peace>>>AJ

Ohhhhh...makes sense. So, everyone from Jehovah's Witnesses to members of the United Church...to members of the Salvation Army...to...I don't know...something else...fall under the general, broad category of protestant?
 
look3467
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by s_lone View Post

It's perfectly OK for religious groups to be vocal and say out loud what they think as long as they accept that they are only a voice among many others. Religion can definitely be a source of guidance, but so can many other forms of human associations such as Greenpeace, Unicef etc. ...


It's perfectly OK for a president to be Catholic, protestant, Jew or Muslim as long as he or she draws a crystal clear line between personal religious values and the interests of the people and state. I expect a country leader to fully embrace secularism.

Our rules and regulations should NOT be religiously based. They should be based on common sense.

Good answers s_lone, my goal was to open up a dialog on any religious issue.

Peace>>>AJ
 
look3467
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by snfu73 View Post

Ohhhhh...makes sense. So, everyone from Jehovah's Witnesses to members of the United Church...to members of the Salvation Army...to...I don't know...something else...fall under the general, broad category of protestant?

To my knowledge yes!

Peace>>>AJ
 
BitWhys
#9
the thead title is offensive
 
look3467
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by triedit View Post

Isn't a protestant just a non-catholic Christian?

Non-catholic true, but Christian, well that depends on the catholic perception.

Peace>>>AJ
 
look3467
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by BitWhys View Post

the thead title is offensive

It might be until you click on it and find out that you are loved!

Peace>>>AJ
 
BitWhys
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by look3467 View Post

It might be until you click on it and find out that you are loved!

Peace>>>AJ

I'm a practicing Anglican so it depends on who you talk to.
 
Toro
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by snfu73 View Post

Okay...I'm going to show extreme ignorance here...but what is a protestant?

Its part of the male anatomy.
 
triedit
#14
I don't think one can label a Jew as a protestant under any definition. Nor a Wiccan. Wiccans don't protest any other religions.
 
RomSpaceKnight
#15
Gods are just manifestation of human characteristics. Wether they be good or bad. They are our inventions not visa versa. Rites and holy symbols are there to let us focus on such things as self-transmutation and meditation.

The christian god concept is as far fetched as Wodan and Thor. Crom on his mountain has about as much reality.

Mother Earth and Pan have more reality. You can step outside to see the miracle of life and creation. Nature worship or reverence have more basis in fact.

I sometimes call on the ancient Persian sun god Mithras. He is represented as the bull-slayer. A manifestation of the zodiacal progression as a result of the Earth's wobbly orbit. This was an early attempt to answer the question "Why does the sun seem to rise in a different sign on the spring equinox every 2000 years or so. And that what ever is causing it must be a power far far greater than mundane human stuff.
Last edited by RomSpaceKnight; Jun 4th, 2007 at 06:50 PM..
 
look3467
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by triedit View Post

I don't think one can label a Jew as a protestant under any definition. Nor a Wiccan. Wiccans don't protest any other religions.

Only those who protested against the Catholic church were considered protestant, but that word today is outdated and hardly ever even considered to be mentioned unless it involves a discussion with a catholic Individual.

As for Wiccans, well I would say only if you go against what the Catholic church teaches, you might be labeled a protestant.

Peace>>>AJ
 
Twila
#17
Quote:

but that word today is outdated and hardly ever even considered to be mentioned unless it involves a discussion with a catholic Individual.

Or your in Ireland....
 
look3467
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by RomSpaceKnight View Post

Gods are just manifestation of human characteristics. Wether they be good or bad. They are our inventions not visa versa. Rites and holy symbols are there to let us focus on such things as self-transmutation and meditation.

The christian god concept is as far fetched as Wodan and Thor. Crom on his mountain has about as much reality.

Mother Earth and Pan have more reality. You can step outside to see the miracle of life and creation. Nature worship or reverence have more basis in fact.

I sometimes call on the ancient Persian sun god Mithras. He is represented as the bull-slayer. A manifestation of the zodiacal progression as a result of the Earth's wobbly orbit. This was an early attempt to answer the question "Why does the sun seem to rise in a different sign on the spring equinox every 2000 years or so. And that what ever is causing it must be a power far far greater than mundane human stuff.

Well, RSK, you surely are free to worship whom you please at no protest from me.
But I can say with all honesty of belief, that my God, the Father of Jesus, is above all gods "The" God, and has made provisions for mankind's illusions of all other gods by correcting the issue of eternal separation for us all.

So between you and I, we are both covered, the difference being, I know it as a matter of faith, while you don't.
But at the end, we will both know who the real God is.

Peace>>>AJ
 
look3467
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Twila View Post

Or your in Ireland....

Granted.

Peace>>>AJ
 
triedit
#20
Ok how is your faith "better" than anyone else's faith? Faith is just what you believe to be true. My truth and your truth may be different but neither is better...
 
RomSpaceKnight
#21
Or not if we both have it wrong.
 
Jay
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by BitWhys View Post

I'm a practicing Anglican so it depends on who you talk to.


Your an Anglican? I wouldn't have guess it in a million years.
 
DurkaDurka
#23
Scientology is the true faith. Pay your respects to the great Ron Hubbard, you infidel swines!

Write me a cheque for $10,000 and I will be happy to enlighten you.
 
look3467
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by triedit View Post

Ok how is your faith "better" than anyone else's faith? Faith is just what you believe to be true. My truth and your truth may be different but neither is better...

My faith is based on what I believe to be true, and compare it to none other.
It says in the bible :Eph 4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
Rom 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

I hold and I stand on what I believe to be the most correct way of believing, and in this belief, I accept all souls as precious before God, and what He holds precious, I honor.

If then is the case, than I see no other theology that would even come close to being what my God is to all mankind.

So, how could I even condemn anybody else's beliefs when I could by action and word convey the love of God?
Love conquers all! The Godly type of love, for in it there is unmerited forgiveness.

Peace>>>AJ
 
look3467
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka View Post

Scientology is the true faith. Pay your respects to the great Ron Hubbard, you infidel swines!

Write me a cheque for $10,000 and I will be happy to enlighten you.

What if I don't have 10,000, what then?

Peace>>>AJ
 
look3467
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by Jay View Post

Your an Anglican? I wouldn't have guess it in a million years.

Does it matter?

Not by me!

Peace>>>AJ
 
Minority Observer84
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by look3467 View Post

Hey folks, talk to me about any religious thoughts or beliefs you have.
Perhaps, I may be persuaded, and then again, I may persuade you in the course of the discussion to a different point of view.
Which ever the case, lets talk.
Lets give it a starter question: Should society have some sort of religious guidance?
I mean is it ok for the president to be Catholic, protestant, Jew and or Muslim?
Should our rules and regulations be religiously based?

What say you?

Peace>>>AJ

Well I think the other thread about Jesus and his death struggles highlights how i feel . Religion has no place in a modren society we should have evolved past that years ago but most people fail to ask questions and truly open their minds .Ultimatley i put my stock in what i can see and can prove .God is a sham created by man to explain his own creation and give purpose in life to people too lazy and weak to find the purpose in their own lives . It truly upsets me how many lives are being wasted waiting for life after death when in truth this is all we have .

I recommend the following webpages good stuff to read :
www.godisimaginry.com
http://www.chrisbeach.co.uk/viewQuotes.php

As for a theist president i think that would be ok so long as he governs using wordly motivations and principles .
The law should NEVER be based on religion because people -even within the same religion - have diffrent interpetations and values and because of that church and state have no bussiness being in the same room together .


P.S The law should never discourage the private practice and beliefs of any religion in an private or religious community setting.
 
Unforgiven
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by look3467 View Post

Hey folks, talk to me about any religious thoughts or beliefs you have.
Perhaps, I may be persuaded, and then again, I may persuade you in the course of the discussion to a different point of view.
Which ever the case, lets talk.
Lets give it a starter question: Should society have some sort of religious guidance?
I mean is it ok for the president to be Catholic, protestant, Jew and or Muslim?
Should our rules and regulations be religiously based?

What say you?

Peace>>>AJ

There are Churches everywhere. That they fail miserably to provide guidance to mankind is only a representation of the folly of dogma and organized religion.
 
Dreadful Nonsense
#29
I recall in a far off galaxy online this guy posted a beautiful nature scene.
I remember this member referring to it like this"I see you go to the same church as me"
ahhh every now and then a gem
 
look3467
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by DocDred View Post

I recall in a far off galaxy online this guy posted a beautiful nature scene.
I remember this member referring to it like this"I see you go to the same church as me"
ahhh every now and then a gem

Well, like the preacher said: (King Solomon)
Ecc 8:14 There is a vanity which is done upon the earth; that there be just men, unto whom it happeneth according to the work of the wicked; again, there be wicked men, to whom it happeneth according to the work of the righteous: I said that this also is vanity.
Ecc 9:9 Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which he hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that is thy portion in this life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun.
Ecc 11:8 But if a man live many years, and rejoice in them all; yet let him remember the days of darkness; for they shall be many. All that cometh is vanity.
Ecc 11:10 Therefore remove sorrow from thy heart, and put away evil from thy flesh: for childhood and youth are vanity.
Ecc 12:8 Vanity of vanities, saith the preacher; all is vanity.

From all that, one would think that life is just a waste, for it seems that no matter what one thinks or does, all is vanity.
Which brings us to only one conclusion, and that is that there must be something other than this life where it all matters.
And God presents that other life as a spiritual awakening as a meaningful way to go.

For an example my life: I was born again at age 13. I mean by that is that I accepted Gods gift of life, and made my life and everything in it worth living, for I was satisfied in knowing and believing that after this life, I would receive the remainder of my new life begun here on earth.

Perhaps, you can tell by my writings, my tolerance, compassion for all individuals regardless of their beliefs?
For onces I was in the dark of knowledge and short of understanding, but now I see the light of Gods wisdom and gained understanding.

Peace>>>AJ
 

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