Israel

Blackleaf
+3
#61
It seems to be the Palestinians who seem to be immune from criticism, just like all other Muslims.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#62
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

It seems to be the Palestinians who seem to be immune from criticism, just like all other Muslims.

You be sure to whimper about that, cow fart.
 
petros
+1
#63
Quote: Originally Posted by NZDoug View Post

Israels importance diminishes with the value of oil.
China gives aid to the world.
Russia gives aid to the world.
Cuba sends doctors to the world.
USA gives 38 billion per year or $750 Us,. to Israel every minute 24 hours per day in military supplies, as Americans die from lack of medical equipment.
This will work out well.�� NOT!!!

Blame Germany for getting them on the teat.

Despite the protests, the agreement was signed in September 1952, and West Germany paid Israel a sum of 3 billion marks over the next fourteen years; 450 million marks were paid to the World Jewish Congress. The payments were made to the State of Israel as the heir to those victims who had no surviving family.
 
petros
+1
#64
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

It seems to be the Palestinians who seem to be immune from criticism, just like all other Muslims.

I know a few Palestinians but they are Greek Catholic.
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
-1
#65
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Blame Germany for getting them on the teat.
Despite the protests, the agreement was signed in September 1952, and West Germany paid Israel a sum of 3 billion marks over the next fourteen years; 450 million marks were paid to the World Jewish Congress. The payments were made to the State of Israel as the heir to those victims who had no surviving family.

Why?
Didn't France export the Jewish problem, among with Belgium, and the rest of Europe?
 
Gilgamesh
#66
Quote: Originally Posted by Torch light View Post

This is like a criminal thief working to impose his condition by force.

Because the present condition of the Arab and Muslims are so bad.. Muslims now are like Jews in the past centuries.

Muslims are in difficult situation (by the work of their enemy the Wicked Zionists of Tel Aviv and their allies)

So now the Zionists want to impose their state by force..

While the falsehood cannot stand in place of the right and truth

Therefore, I tell you: this is an abnormal and temporary situation which will not last long.

And I say to you something which is not a secret:
God has set the Zionists on Muslims at the present: this is true .. because of the idolatry which prevailed among Muslims, but once the Zionists dare transgress on God's house in Quds: Al-Aqsa Mosque .. everything will change.

http://quran-ayat.com/conflicts/engl...vember_2_1917_
quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english3.htm#Balfour_Declaration_November_2_1917_

Before you tell us what God does, first you have to prove Her/His existence. In millenia no one has ver done that. Until someone does, your God's existence has proven as likely as unicorns and fairies.
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#67
Quote: Originally Posted by Gilgamesh View Post

Before you tell us what God does, first you have to prove Her/His existence. In millenia no one has ver done that. Until someone does, your God's existence has proven as likely as unicorns and fairies.

Proof of the existence of God can be seen in any number of logical fallacies.
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
#68
CHYNA !
................
US To Israel: No More Chinese Deals; Pompeo’s Flying Visit
Israeli officials said the message relayed during Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's hours-long visit included a very specific political warning – Israel must stop any action that strengthens the Chinese Communist Party, even if that means canceling projects already planned.
TEL AVIV: The United States delivered a clear message to Jerusalem today – avoid further involvement of China in the Israeli economy. The message was one of the main reasons for the very short visit of American Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to Jerusalem — one day before the new cabinet is sworn in.
“The fact that the visit takes place in these problematic times proves its urgency ” an Israeli source said. Pompeo came to Israel with a very strict message – stop all Chinese investment in Israel, either in high tech companies or infrastructure.
Israeli officials said the message relayed during Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s hours-long visit included a very specific political warning – Israel must stop any action that strengthens the Chinese Communist Party, even if that means canceling projects already planned.
Israeli sources said that the strict demand also stems from the suspicion in Washington that China is responsible for the effects of the coronavirus.
Good relations between Israel and China have caused heartache in the relationship between Washington and Jerusalem. For example, Israel was forced to cancel the sale of the Phalcon Airborne Early Warning System to China during the Camp David summit after money had changed hands. Israel was forced to compensate China for the cancellation.
As Breaking D readers know, Israel’s National Authority for Data Protection barred China from building communications infrastructures of any kind in the country, and Israeli communications companies are not using Chinese components in their communications equipment. The new directive will force big companies and organizations with national security implications to refrain from using Chinese made systems and components in their different installations.
But sources familiar with the issue say the steps that have been taken are not enough. “The Chinese use their resources to try and integrate into many Israeli infrastructure projects, especially on the communications and security aspects and that causes big worries” one expert here told me.
A document prepared by the intelligence community shows that there has been an increase of more than 1,700% in Chinese investment across the Middle East from 2012 to 2018.
Government officials and private sector experts estimate that Chinese investment in Israel has reached 40 billion shekels ($11.4 billion) over the years. Chinese companies bought one of Israel’s largest dairy products companies, and have won tenders and operating franchises to build the Carmel tunnels in Haifa, the Ashdod and Haifa ports and the Tel Aviv Light Train.
The Israeli security organizations are very concerned about Chinese involvement, especially at two strategic sites where the sensitivity is particularly high. One is control of the light train now being built here that passes close to Kirya, the site that includes the Ministry of Defense, IDF headquarters and the air force’s high command.
Israeli sources told Breaking Defense that the new demands by the US will create problems in some major infrastructure projects. They concede that not complying with the U.S demands will have worse results for Israel.
The issue of the Chinese involvement in Israeli programs became even more acute as Beijing strives to get big chunks of work part of the rebuilding of Syria after the long civil war. Russia has sent signs to that it is not happy with Syria’s willingness to consider Chinese bids.
Professor Uzi Rabi, director of the Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and African Studies, told me that the Russians expected that Assad will be open to all their demands after their investment in the Syrian civil war “Now, when the Russians are in a very bad situation due to the combination of the coronavirus and low oil prices, they discovered that Assad is playing power games. That angers Moscow very much.”
Moscow is using all its tools to be the main contractor to rebuild ruined Syria after the long civil war. In recent days, Russian publications have described Assad as a weak man, unable to deal with corruption and one that has completely lost the confidence of the business community in his country. The results of a public opinion poll conducted by a Russian Institute shows that only 32 percent of Syrian citizens will vote for Assad next year. The credibility of that poll cannot be measured but the line is clear. (Eds. note: Of course, Assad is demonstrably unpopular, since much of the population has spent years trying to kill him and his minions.)
The message from Moscow is very clear: we helped you when you needed it most. Now you have to help us.
https://breakingdefense.com/2020/05/...20Bird%20Brief
MAGA !
 
Avro52
#69
F this guy.

Iran’s supreme leader releases anti-Israel 'final solution' poster.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/ir...-poster-628633
 
spilledthebeer
#70
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

You be sure to whimper about that, cow fart.




Ah - the usual crude NON REBUTTAL from T-bonesforbrains!


LIE-berals long ago figured out that if you are going to BUY VOTES


it is best to buy them from LARGE GROUPS!


The number of Jews with votes to sell is smaller than the nubmer of Muslims!


Ergo - it is best for vote hungry LIE-berals to suck up to Muslims!


While asshats like yourself PRETEND it is not happening that way!








Here is an article illustrating just how afraid LIE-berals are becoming of voter wrath as the 2019 election looms larger for arrogant LIE-berals! With some comments of my own in brackets)?

Ottawa mosque loses charity status for promoting 'hate and intolerance'

By Matthew Kupfer. August 10/2018.

The Ottawa Islamic Centre on St. Laurent Boulevard south of Walkley Road. It lost its charitable status and is facing allegations from the Canada Revenue Agency that its resources were used to promote 'hate and intolerance.' © Philippe Turgeon/CBC

(Gosh how times have changed! It was only a couple of years ago that LIE-berals were sneering at the Harper Conservatives for revoking the charitable status of some Muslim organizations for “promoting hate and intolerance”!!!!!)

(But that was then and this is now- with LIE-berals STINGING over the public rebuke issued over their payment of over $50 million dollars in blood money to terror poster boy Omar Khadr- and 3 other jihadist jerks- and also in the middle of the next STINGING public rebuke offered to LIE-berals who happily gave summer job grants to Muslim groups who were willing to LIE about their values! While Catholics who would not lie about their views on abortion- as Muslims did- GOT NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!)

The CRA has posted the summary of its reason for revoking the charitable status last month, which says the organization failed to devote all its resources to charity and "allowed its resources to be used to promote hate and intolerance."

(Is it not odd that LIE-berals IGNORED a report by 2 reporters in Toronto Sun who stated there was NOTHING BUT radical opinion and hate ON ALL CDN Mosque and Muslim school web sites- and then LIE-berals ARRESTED a Mississauga man for offering money to anybody who could provide verified video proof of hate speech taking place in any Cdn Mosque!)

(Yes- in LIE-beral Canada it is now a Hate Crime to seek out proof of hateful activities- IF such a search EMBARRASSES LIE-berals! No wonder LIE-berals felt compelled to some virtue signalling and go after one lone Muslim group!)

(But considering that LIE-berals REFUSE to deport Toronto 18 CONVICTED TERRORISTS - and LIE-berals have been sending aid money to TERROR GROUP HAMAS- WHAT COULD that lone Cdn Muslim charity have DONE to get LIE-berals so charged up?????? CRA explains

The tax agency also identified problems with the organization's books and failure to file an information return.

(OH!!!!!! They are TAX CHEATS AS WELL AS LIE-beral designated SCAPE GOATS! You can hate Cdns if you want; you can even stand in front of a crowd- as a Calgary Imam did and explain it is okay to KILL GAYS so they will not SIN AGAIN-and that is merely freedom of speech and religion!!!!!!!!!! But LIE-berals WILL ATTACK if you mess with their gravy supply by tax cheating!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Ali Abdulle, a mosque administrator, said the allegations come as a shock and are from a time before the current administration, which took over in 2013.

"We have been devastated. It's like an earthquake," he said.

"The mosque resources have never been used for any hate or any promoting hate."

(Uh huh! SADLY- the Muslim definition of Hate and the Cdn version seem to be radically DIFFERENT! And perhaps we should consider the Muslim concept of Taaquiya- the EXPLICIT PERMISSION offered by Allah to Muslims- entitling them to LIE to infidels in defence of Islam!!!!!!)

The CRA's summary does not say when these infractions took place. CBC News has asked for more information.

(No doubt LIE-berals will cloak their hypocrite virtue signalling in privacy laws!!)

Other speeches in other cities

The hate and intolerance allegations relate to guest speakers invited to the mosque in 2009 and 2013 who said what the CRA characterized as hateful things in other cities, according to Abdulle.

(In other words- HARPER WAS RIGHT to try to REVOKE CHARITABLE STATUS from various Muslim organizations!!!!!! And LIE-beral hypocrites were WRONG!!!!!!)

"They did not say it in our mosque, they said it somewhere else," he said.

"We think it's unfair to us and it's unfair to the community to be revoking our charitable status over what somebody said."

(Oh yes- that is a large distinction- that members of your Mosque would speak hate outside the Mosque and thus give a slippery excuse to your Mosque!!!!)

He said the mosque community is vibrant, welcoming and promotes Canadian values.

(The Muslim definition of “Cdn values” is wildly at odds with TRUE CDN values!!!!!!!)

Ali Abdulle is an administrator at the Assalam Mosque in Ottawa. He said the issues flagged by the CRA were from before the current administration took over in 2013.

(How is that relevant? Ford motor company can change its CEO- but it STILL PAYS AS PENALTY if the old CEO cheated on corporate taxes!)

The CRA said the revocation is based on issues identified in the organization's two audits from before it registered as a charity, the agency's correspondence with the organization and issues identified in the audit leading up to the revocation.

The revocation of charitable status means the mosque can no longer provide tax receipts, doesn't qualify for an income tax exemption or the HST rebate.

(Hypocrite Muslims are demanding that Cdns should accept that a Mosque name change entitles them to get away with cheating on taxes! Cdns know you can change your name but the tax bill REMAINS!!!!!!!)

Abdulle said the mosque will still be able to conduct its regular operations and plans to challenge the CRA decision.

(Oh that is nice! They can continue to teach hatred of Jews and GAYS- but THEY JUST DON’T GET HST rebates any more! I wonder if they are still eligible for the summer job grants that are being denied to Catholics??????????)
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
#71
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

You be sure to whimper about that, cow fart.

I believe the |Palestinian leadership doesn't like to be criticized - the people are too busy trying to make a living to care what the leadership does or doesn't like. Most don't have any animosity towards Israel I would bet.

JMHO
 
Tecumsehsbones
#72
Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

I believe the |Palestinian leadership doesn't like to be criticized - the people are too busy trying to make a living to care what the leadership does or doesn't like. Most don't have any animosity towards Israel I would bet.
JMHO

Neither does the MAGAhat leadership (like being criticized, that is).

I feel really sorry for the Palestinians. They're being used by people who would just as soon see every man, woman, and child dead.
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
+2
#73
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Neither does the MAGAhat leadership (like being criticized, that is).
I feel really sorry for the Palestinians. They're being used by people who would just as soon see every man, woman, and child dead.


Their leadership who are responsible for the situation Palestinians find themselves in. Unfortunately, the average Palestinian are either too busy trying to scrap out a living or too intimidated to fight their leadership. Arafat made a huge mistake in not taking the offer made by Israel many years ago that would have benefitted his people but his hatred of Israel meant more to him than ensuring his people had the freedoms and government to which they deserve. His selfishness is the result of what we see today.
 
spilledthebeer
#74
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Neither does the MAGAhat leadership (like being criticized, that is).

I feel really sorry for the Palestinians. They're being used by people who would just as soon see every man, woman, and child dead.




If the Palestinians are really "being used" as you claim - you with your long history of Fake News and distortions of truth


then the Palestinians are VOLUNTARILY GOING ALONG with the "using"!


One has only to read some of the Muslims posts on this site to realize that the destruction of Israel



IS ONLY THE FIRST STEP in the Muslim plan to "defeat" the Jews!


Muslims believe that one day there will be a climactic battle between The Faithful Muslims



against the VILE ZIONISTS AND JEWS!



Muslims writings suggest that Jews are so vile that even the "rocks and trees will awaken and call to The Faithful saying



come to me as there is a Jew hiding behind me"!


That is a pretty comprehensive sort of HATE when you are teaching kids that even the rocks in the fields will be calling out



targets for Muslim snipers!



Muslims believe the WORLD and all in it will ONE DAY BE THEIRS!


Muslims do not think the meek shall inherit the Earth!


Muslims think the place should belong to SUICIDE BOMBERS!
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
+1
#75
U.S. criminalising International Criminal Court because it wants to investigate U.S.and Israeli War Crimes.
……………………………
S vows to prevent ‘corrupt’ ICC from probing Americans, Israelis for war crimes
Secretary of State Pompeo says there will be ‘series of announcements’ aimed at preventing The Hague from opening investigations in Afghanistan, Palestinian territories
The US is about to launch a concerted effort to prevent the International Criminal Court from opening war crime investigations that could see American and Israeli officials in the dock in The Hague, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Monday.
“I think that the ICC and the world will see that we are determined to prevent having Americans and our friends and allies in Israel and elsewhere hauled in by this corrupt ICC,” he told a podcast hosted by the American Enterprise Institute think tank.
“I don’t want to get ahead of the announcements we’re going to make in the coming days but I think you’ll see,” he said.
The ICC is currently weighing whether to open separate criminal investigations into the “situation in Afghanistan,” which could see UK and American troops tried for war crimes, and the “situation in Palestine,” which may result in Israelis and Palestinians being tried for war crimes.
“I’m very concerned about it,” Pompeo said. “You’ll see, in the coming days, a series of announcements, not just from the State Department, all across the United States government, that attempt to push back against what the ICC is up to.”
Neither the US nor Israel are members of the court and therefore reject the ICC’s attempt to exert criminal jurisdiction over their nationals.
“And under international law, one of the key features of exercise of power by a body such as the ICC is that you say yep, I want to be part of that. We never signed up for the [Rome Statue, the ICC’s foundational document],” the US top diplomat said.
“And now this court has become corrupted and is attempting to go after the young men and women of the United States of America who fought so hard… And they think that the ICC ought to be able to haul these young men and women in. We will never let that happen. We’re working along many fronts to prevent it from happening.”
Pompeo added: “They’re doing this not just to us, but to Israel, where they’re beginning to look into what took place in the West Bank. Again, it’s completely inappropriate. It’s completely inconsistent with international law. And it puts our young men and women at risk and it’s something President [Donald] Trump and our team aren’t going to permit to happen.
Pompeo has long fought the ICC’s efforts to pursue investigations into cases where Americans or Israelis are involved. Last month, after a brief visit to Israel, he issued a formal statement reiterating Washington’s “longstanding objection to any illegitimate ICC investigations” into Israel and threatening that any attempt to assert jurisdiction over Israelis would “exact consequences.”
It is now up to a pretrial chamber to rule on the matter. The three judges of that chamber — Péter Kovács of Hungary, Marc Perrin de Brichambaut of France and Reine Adélaïde Sophie Alapini-Gansou of Benin — have no set deadline to hand down their decision but are expected to do so in less than 90 days.
Israel argues that Palestine is not a sovereign state and therefore cannot transfer criminal jurisdiction over its territory to the Hague. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly denounced the ICC and declared thwarting a possible war crimes probe one of the new government’s top priorities.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-vow...or-war-crimes/
 
DaSleeper
+4
#76
You can expect a friend's request from Torch light anytime now!
 
Girth
+1
#77
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

You can expect a friend's request from Torch light anytime now!

Nut Zone Doug and Torch Light are the only rabid anti-Semites remaining on this forum. Nobody takes Torch Light seriously though.
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
-1
#78
Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

Nut Zone Doug and Torch Light are the only rabid anti-Semites remaining on this forum. Nobody takes Torch Light seriously though.

Ya, me and the editors of Times of Israel and Jerusalem Post and the majority of Israeli citizens, along with 150 countries in the world against the annexation of the West Bank by the Israel "Defence" Force, are the big anti-semites.
Pompeo is telling Israel it cant have "ChYna" building a fresh water desalination plant if n Israel, but USA donates 38 billion per year, but Israel is selling drone technology to "ChYna"!
But Sheldon Adelson ,who gave $100 million to get Trump elected, finds Trump needs another $30 million from Sheldon for his election campaign.
Trump and Netanyahu are headed for jail, and Adelson makes all his moola from his gambling casinos in "ChYna".
Whos zoomin' who?
Trump Square means the death of Israel.
Business is business, homy.
 
Girth
#79
Quote: Originally Posted by NZDoug View Post

Ya, me and the editors of Times of Israel and Jerusalem Post and the majority of Israeli citizens, along with 150 countries in the world against the annexation of the West Bank by the Israel "Defence" Force, are the big anti-semites.
Pompeo is telling Israel it cant have "ChYna" building a fresh water desalination plant if n Israel, but USA donates 38 billion per year, but Israel is selling drone technology to "ChYna"!
But Sheldon Adelson ,who gave $100 million to get Trump elected, finds Trump needs another $30 million from Sheldon for his election campaign.
Trump and Netanyahu are headed for jail, and Adelson makes all his moola from his gambling casinos in "ChYna".
Whos zoomin' who?
Trump Square means the death of Israel.
Business is business, homy.

 
Girth
#80
Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

 
Girth
#81
 
Girth
#82
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
#83
Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

 
Girth
#84
 
Girth
#85
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
-1
#86
Ya, me and the editors of Times of Israel and Jerusalem Post and the majority of Israeli citizens, along with 150 countries in the world against the annexation of the West Bank by the Israel "Defence" Force, are the big anti-semites.
Pompeo is telling Israel it cant have "ChYna" building a fresh water desalination plant if n Israel, but USA donates 38 billion per year, but Israel is selling drone technology to "ChYna"!
But Sheldon Adelson ,who gave $100 million to get Trump elected, finds Trump needs another $30 million from Sheldon for his election campaign.
Trump and Netanyahu are headed for jail, and Adelson makes all his moola from his gambling casinos in "ChYna".
Whos zoomin' who?
Trump Square means the death of Israel.
Business is business, homy.
 
Girth
#87
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
-1
#88
Ya, me and the editors of Times of Israel and Jerusalem Post and the majority of Israeli citizens, along with 150 countries in the world against the annexation of the West Bank by the Israel "Defence" Force, are the big anti-semites.
Pompeo is telling Israel it cant have "ChYna" building a fresh water desalination plant if n Israel, but USA donates 38 billion per year, but Israel is selling drone technology to "ChYna"!
But Sheldon Adelson ,who gave $100 million to get Trump elected, finds Trump needs another $30 million from Sheldon for his election campaign.
Trump and Netanyahu are headed for jail, and Adelson makes all his moola from his gambling casinos in "ChYna".
Whos zoomin' who?
Trump Square means the death of Israel.
Business is business, homy.
 
Girth
#89
 
NZDoug
Free Thinker
#90
Last week the family of Rachel Corrie, an American peace activist who was crushed to death by an Israeli military bulldozer in the Gaza Strip in 2003 while trying to protect a Palestinian house from demolition, appealed a civil suit to Israel’s high court. In 2012 parents Craig and Cindy Corrie lost a Haifa district trial. The judges ruled because Corrie, 23, was in a “combat zone,” the soldier who killed her and the Israeli military could not be held liable.
The video evidence at the beginning of the tape was marked by blurring” and it disappeared for seven days after it was discovered during the military investigation. Another video of Corrie’s final moments found by documentary filmmaker Simon Bitton and featured in the film “Rachel,” which is longer and in color, was never presented to the court. Furthermore, two 19-year old soldiers who the appeal alleges had “no experience in investigations” conducted the army review.
The soldier who drove over Corrie told army investigators in 2003 that he did not see her until after she was crushed. Corrie stood a mere 10 meters from the bulldozer driver in the seconds before he drove over her. State attorney’s also said from that distance “she yelled, but they [the soldiers] couldn’t hear.”
Corrie was dressed in a gray pullover with a bright orange hazard vest. Lawyers for her family said she had screamed along with other foreigners present. Yet the driver maintained he was not negligent because a mound of dirt blocked her from his line of sight. In the appeal, Abu Hussein presented photographs from before and after the Corrie’s death where there was no visible mound.
Lawyers representing the state argued that the cause of death was not being contested, the liability is. They maintained that Corrie was in a danger zone and so she alone was negligible for her own killing.

The presiding judges on the appeal will not convene a public hearing to deliver their verdict; it is to be delivered on the court’s website. “We don’t know when, it could be in one week, it could be in one month, it could be in one year,” said a spokesperson for the Corrie family.
more
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/05/israel...ly-corrie.html
 

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