Free votes and abortion: Justin Trudeau wants to have it both ways


Locutus
#1
Amidst the media frenzy over Justin Trudeau’s deliberate remarks that likened the Conservative’s immigration policies to Canada’s anti-Semitic policies of the 1930s, scant attention was paid to the rest of his ill-conceived address.

On abortion, the Liberal leader has been unapologetic. Trudeau has mandated that all candidates for the upcoming election hold pro-abortion views, which is to say, they already make up their minds on any potential legislation touching this issue, before it is even introduced in the House of Commons.

Unsurprisingly, taking away the right to a free vote on any matter is something that does not sit well with many Canadians, including pro-life and pro-choice voters, who would like to see MPs empowered. Trudeau used his platform Monday night as an opportunity to rebuff this legitimate criticism.

“…It is based on a value judgment about whose freedom is more important: that of an MP elected as a Liberal, or that of Canadian women… For Liberals, the right of a woman to control her body is more important than the right of a legislator to restrict her freedom with [his or her] vote. MPs who disagree with that have other choices,” he said.

This is rich. Trudeau is trying to have his cake and eat it too. You see, Canadians like the idea of electing MPs that matter, and want to have a real representative in Ottawa. That is why only a few months ago, Trudeau came out in favor of a private member’s bill called the Reform Act. In his support of the Reform Act, Trudeau said: “We believe MPs should be their community’s voice in Ottawa, not the Prime Minister’s voice in their community.”

Not so fast, Justin. Should an MP be their community’s voice in Ottawa, or should a Liberal MP be your voice in their community? You simply can’t have it both ways.

And on abortion, this is not a black and white issue for most Canadians. Sure there are strong advocates on both sides, but for many there are shades of grey.

You see, many reasonable Canadians who consider themselves pro-choice oppose late term abortions. How would a future MP who would like to see gestational limits, vote on a bill regarding this issue? First, they should read the bill to understand it, unless of course they are elected as a Liberal, in which case, no need to even read the important legislation. Their leader made up their minds for them well before the previous election.

And what about on the issue of gendercide? On this matter, many “pro-choice” Canadians, including women, recoil at just the mention of this barbaric reality. But as Trudeau told me last April, free of any emotion, this is a matter for discussion “between a women and the health professionals she encounters.”

In light of the real controversy that Justin Trudeau’s speech caused on Monday night , it is easy to overlook many of the other themes that he talked about. But it would be a shame if we were to overlook the would-be prime minister justifying eroding the responsibilities and rights of members of Parliament.

On Liberal MPs and abortion, Justin Trudeau wants "to have it both ways" - The Rebel
 
Locutus
#2
“You know, at some point you are killing life in the foetus in self-defence – of what? Of the mother’s health or her happiness or of her social rights or her privilege as a human being? I think she should have to answer for it and explain. Now, whether it should be to three doctors or one doctor or to a priest or a bishop or to her mother-in-law is a question you might want to argue …. You do have a right over your own body – it is your body. But the foetus is not your body; it’s someone else’s body. And if you kill it, you’ll have to explain.”


The Rt. Hon. Pierre E. Trudeau, PC, QC, MP
Prime Minister of Canada
The Montreal Star, Thursday, May 25, 1972



Pierre Trudeau: You’ll have to answer for your abortion

Trudeau says position on abortion influenced by his famous father | Toronto Star

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coldstream
#3
Justin is a twit.. paper thin.. in the pall of some form of sophistry of radical individualism and moral relativism lacking any credible substance.

He doesn't understand Canada as historical and cultural entity. He is running the country by maudlin sentiment and naive delusion posturing as idealism.

I expect the tensions to start seething in the Liberal Party as the sheer lack of any integral vision for the country.. and Justin's inability to engage on an intellectual and comprehensive level the lurking economic, social, moral crises that are crashing in on the nation.. will tear his leadership and party asunder, beginning within a year.

People are just what they seem... a Justin is self absorbed poser who doesn't have a clue what he's doing.

He won't appear nearly as cute and telegenic when this aimless drift in the ship of state draws us into turbulent currents.
Last edited by coldstream; Dec 30th, 2015 at 02:46 PM..
 
davesmom
+4
#4  Top Rated Post
I didn't watch Trudeau's speech. I can no longer stand looking at the moron!
But regarding the abortion issue, the SCOC has long ago ruled on it. There is nothing to be gained by bringing it up again.
It is a religious/emotional issue and there will never be agreement on it.
The best way to handle it, imo, is if you don't believe in abortion, don't have one. If you do, go right ahead. It's no different than the religious group and their anti-gay movement. We can't have one portion of society dictating to another. There's too much of that going on already.
 
DaSleeper
#5
He totally takes after his mother, in looks and brains.......
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

He totally takes after his mother, in looks and brains.......

I didn't like his father or his policies. He was an arrogant a-s-s-hole but I would never question his intelligence. Not the same can be said for junior.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
#7
Oh he is smart enough. Just lacks sense. Kind of idiot savant.
 

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