J.Assange Legal Problems Inteeensify


Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#1

WikiLeaks��s Julian Assange hit with U.S. charges, court filing reveals


In a development that could significantly advance the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election and have major implications for those who publish government secrets, the founder of WikiLeaks has been charged under seal, prosecutors inadvertently revealed in a recent court filing from another case.

The disclosure came in a case unrelated to Assange. Assistant U.S. Attorney Kellen S. Dwyer, urging a judge to keep the matter sealed, wrote that, ��due to the sophistication of the defendant and the publicity surrounding the case, no other procedure is likely to keep confidential the fact that Assange has been charged.�� Later, Dwyer wrote the charges would ��need to remain sealed until Assange is arrested.��


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ational&wpmk=1
 
Dixie Cup
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They simply won't give up will they? They are determined to prove Trump was in collusion with Russia even tho' they have found nothing to date. It must be driving them crazy!!!
 
Hoid
#3
Assange is about a lot more than Trump, speaking of not being able to talk about anything but Trump.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#4
The U.S. has prepared an indictment against Julian Assange of WikiLeaks. A case against him could have implications for the Russia inquiry.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/16/u...s&ref=headline


..this could get interesting..
 
White_Unifier
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post


WikiLeaks��s Julian Assange hit with U.S. charges, court filing reveals

In a development that could significantly advance the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election and have major implications for those who publish government secrets, the founder of WikiLeaks has been charged under seal, prosecutors inadvertently revealed in a recent court filing from another case.
The disclosure came in a case unrelated to Assange. Assistant U.S. Attorney Kellen S. Dwyer, urging a judge to keep the matter sealed, wrote that, ��due to the sophistication of the defendant and the publicity surrounding the case, no other procedure is likely to keep confidential the fact that Assange has been charged.�� Later, Dwyer wrote the charges would ��need to remain sealed until Assange is arrested.��
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ational&wpmk=1

I don't see how US law could apply to Assange when Assange never set foot in the US. He may have violated other countries' laws, perhaps, but not US law.

If, sitting in front of my computer in Canada, I hack into the CIA's database, steal a bunch of CIA data, and publish it, I might have broken a plethora of Canadian laws perhaps, but no US law since I wouldn't have been in the US when I'd committed the act.

The same in reverse. If, sitting in front of my computer in the US, I hack into the RCMP database, steal of bunch of info and publish it, while I might violate all kinds of US laws, I couldn't break any Canadian law since I wouldn't even have been in Canada when I'd have committed the act.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

I don't see how US law could apply to Assange when Assange never set foot in the US. He may have violated other countries' laws, perhaps, but not US law.

If, sitting in front of my computer in Canada, I hack into the CIA's database, steal a bunch of CIA data, and publish it, I might have broken a plethora of Canadian laws perhaps, but no US law since I wouldn't have been in the US when I'd committed the act.

The same in reverse. If, sitting in front of my computer in the US, I hack into the RCMP database, steal of bunch of info and publish it, while I might violate all kinds of US laws, I couldn't break any Canadian law since I wouldn't even have been in Canada when I'd have committed the act.

Unless that hacking is breaking international laws.(agreements) It might depend on how the hacked (target) interprets the action...(ie "threat to national security" ?? or ..some other spin the US will put on it. Not sure of the technicalities.

Assange has been virtually on "house arrest" for years now.
 
Hoid
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

I don't see how US law could apply to Assange when Assange never set foot in the US. He may have violated other countries' laws, perhaps, but not US law.

If, sitting in front of my computer in Canada, I hack into the CIA's database, steal a bunch of CIA data, and publish it, I might have broken a plethora of Canadian laws perhaps, but no US law since I wouldn't have been in the US when I'd committed the act.

The same in reverse. If, sitting in front of my computer in the US, I hack into the RCMP database, steal of bunch of info and publish it, while I might violate all kinds of US laws, I couldn't break any Canadian law since I wouldn't even have been in Canada when I'd have committed the act.

that's why if you you commit bank fraud using a computer in another country you are free and clear.
 
Kreskin
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

I don't see how US law could apply to Assange when Assange never set foot in the US. He may have violated other countries' laws, perhaps, but not US law.
If, sitting in front of my computer in Canada, I hack into the CIA's database, steal a bunch of CIA data, and publish it, I might have broken a plethora of Canadian laws perhaps, but no US law since I wouldn't have been in the US when I'd committed the act.
The same in reverse. If, sitting in front of my computer in the US, I hack into the RCMP database, steal of bunch of info and publish it, while I might violate all kinds of US laws, I couldn't break any Canadian law since I wouldn't even have been in Canada when I'd have committed the act.

RCMP servers I'm sure are in Canada. It doesn't matter where you're sitting if your hands are on their assets which were stolen from Canada. Same would apply with Assange and digital information stolen from the US.
 
MHz
#9
I quit listening when he didn't do a 9/11 breakdown, Snowden either.
 
White_Unifier
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

that's why if you you commit bank fraud using a computer in another country you are free and clear.

In what country is bank fraud legal?
 
MHz
#11
Based on the charges and prosecution history Iceland would be the only one that qualifies as not being a safe haven.
 
Hoid
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

In what country is bank fraud legal?

you will need to work out the details on your own.

i have merely summarized your hypothesis
 
White_Unifier
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

you will need to work out the details on your own.
i have merely summarized your hypothesis

It's pretty simple really. If I'm standing on the Canadian side of the border,take aim at someone on the US side of the border, fire and strike him dead, did I break Canadian or US law?
 
Hoid
#14
both
 
White_Unifier
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

both

So I should be punished twice?
 
Hoid
#16
So you shouldn't?
 
White_Unifier
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

So you shouldn't?

Why double jeopardy? If I'm in Canada and murder someone in Canada, then I'd be punished only once. If I'm in the US and murder someone in the US, I'd be punished only once. So why should I be punished twice just because the bullet crossed a border?

To take another example: My business is located in Ontario but my business website which anyone in Quebec can access fails to conform to Quebec's Bill 101. Should the OQLF have the power to cross the border into Ontario and impose a fine on me for having violated Quebec laws when I might not have ever in my life set foot on Quebec soil?
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#18
3 new things to know about Assange and the Mueller investigation

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...oyN/story.html
 
Hoid
#19
Trump will be lucky to get out of his term without impeachment.

Looks like Romney in 2020
 

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