Ford government admits they can't do what they promised


spilledthebeer
#121
Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

Yeah well it turns out the Liberals lied about the finances in Ontario so it doesn't surprise me that Ford will have to take a second look on some promises. That's why we should never believe promises that politicians make because in all likelihood, they won't be kept. Look @ panty-waste JT - he said he was all for the middle-class and who is now taxed more than ever? Scammers, the lot of them!!


JMHO


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Yes- Wynne-bag LIE-berals SHOULD be facing fraud charges for uttering so many deliberate. planned, consistent and utterly self serving LIES about our finances!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But you can bet they have a handy legal loophole to duck into!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


One has only to think of the Sudbury bribery trial where LIE-berals escaped on a very WEAK TECHNICALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IT IS ILLEGAL to bribe an MPP- but they very carefully FIRED their old candidate BEFORE bribing the guy to shut up and go away!!!!!!!


And they FIRST BRIBED the replacement AND THEN HIRED the guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It IS ALL BRIBERY in the eyes of ordinary people- one paid to go and one paid to come aboard- but for the LIE-beral friendly judge- there WAS NO CRIME since neither the old candidate or the new candidate were actually SIGNED UP as a candidate when the bribes were paid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You can bet Ontari-owe LIE-berals have some nice little hair splitting legal defense for their budget lies as well!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Walter
#122
Ford is getting rid of mandatory emissions tests. MOGA
 
spilledthebeer
#123
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Ford is getting rid of mandatory emissions tests. MOGA


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If the emissions test was such a great idea then WHY did Wynne-bag LIE-berals ORDER car companies to stop charging for it????????


Killing the emissions test will have VERY LIMITED EFFECT on air quality since so many cars are now computerized and they either run properly or DIE!!!!!!!


There is very little leeway in modern cars- they run or not- modern computer controlled systems much more often SHUT themselves down when major components are failing - unlike older machines that could struggle on in a half assed way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And of course- the REAL CLIMATE CHANGE SOLUTION is the one LIE-berals are IGNORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Airplanes are the BIGGEST of all polluters- and it is over paid greedy civil service union Hogs who are the major users of airplanes!!!!!!!!


Modern cars are TRIVIAL compared to riding lawn mowers, atv`s, snowmobiles, Sea-doos and all those HUGE motorboats rumbling along the Trent Canal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How much gas does a 21ft boat with a THREE HUNDRED HORSE POWER motor burn in an hour of sight seeing- at 40 MPH????



Cut back on Hog gravy and it will reduce air travel.................AND CLEAN THE AIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In the aftermath of the 9/11 terror attack- over 25 percent of the worlds airline fleet was grounded for 9 months- while scientists MEASURED A REAL IMPROVEMENT in air quality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#124
NDP, Liberals, Greens fear Doug Ford will end party subsidies

Premier Ford vows to scrap key Liberal labour bill

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TORONTO - Ontario Premier Doug Ford vowed Tuesday to scrap labour reform legislation from the previous Liberal regime that raised the province's minimum wage and introduced a range of other worker protections, a declaration that came days after his government said the law was under review.
Ford's comments caught the opposition off guard and upset those in the labour community who have been supporters of the law known as Bill 148.
"We're getting rid of Bill 148," the premier said in the legislature. "We're going to make sure we're competitive around the world."
The Progressive Conservatives said last week that they would halt a planned increase to minimum wage set to kick in next year as a result of the Liberal law, and the labour minister said the rest of the legislation was being reviewed.

Click the link
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#125
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

NDP, Liberals, Greens fear Doug Ford will end party subsidies

Premier Ford vows to scrap key Liberal labour bill



Click the link


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Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Dig Doug!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He will teach LIE-berals and their less intelligent Green and NDP cousins how to manage an economy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sadly- LIE-berals have made such a COLOSSAL MESS that it will take YEARS before we see much good economic news!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have crippled us with debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The revelation that our Ontari-owe deficit is actually DOUBLE what LIE-berals have admitted to, has deeply alarmed bond rating services!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ford is now doing a dangerous high wire act with diseased Ontari-owe debt- courtesy of LIE-berals who left us with so much wild



spending- AND LIE-berals signed FOUR YEAR CONTRACTS with their civil service union Hog allies!!!!!!!!!!!


And since over 75 percent of ALL Ontari-owe provincial spending is on Hog pay, perks and pensions- Ford govt is LOCKED into



spending increases - with limited ability to alter much of anything- and our bond holders KNOW THIS NOW and they are watching us very carefully- ready to hit us with many new charges and fees if Ford weakens!
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#126
Our rootin-tootin, straight shootin', conservative's Conservative Premier wants agricultural subsidies!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...tion-1.4845481
 
10larry
#127
She and justyn made the 'deal' and they toil for the people federaly n' experience tells us libs are expert at spending our money, doug's just another canuck that'll fork out more post freeland deal making. Trump got something out of the deal for his dairy farmers what did our team get for us?
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#128
Quote: Originally Posted by 10larry View Post

She and justyn made the 'deal' and they toil for the people federaly n' experience tells us libs are expert at spending our money, doug's just another canuck that'll fork out more post freeland deal making. Trump got something out of the deal for his dairy farmers what did our team get for us?

Ford wants subsidies. Now we'll subsidize our dairy industry just like the Americans do.

MAGA.
 
Walter
#129
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Our rootin-tootin, straight shootin', conservative's Conservative Premier wants agricultural subsidies!
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...tion-1.4845481

From the feds cuz Turdoh caused this mess.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#130
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

From the feds cuz Turdoh caused this mess.

Oh, different taxpayer then?
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#131
Ford takes anti-carbon-tax crusade to Saskatchewan, Alberta

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Premier Doug Ford is taking his anti-carbon-tax crusade out West, meeting with like-minded provincial leaders in Saskatchewan and Alberta this week.
“I’m heading to Saskatchewan to meet with @PremierScottMoe and business leaders to discuss how we can make Canada more competitive,” Ford said via Twitter on Wednesday.
“This summer, Ontario joined Saskatchewan’s legal challenge of the federal carbon tax to ensure no family or business are burdened by this unfair tax.”
He was to leave for Saskatoon on Thursday morning.
Shortly after taking office, Ford put an end to Ontario’s cap-and-trade system, and at an annual premiers’ gathering in July he announced his government would join Moe’s court case challenging the federal government’s right to impose a carbon tax on provinces.
In August, his Progressive Conservative government launched its own constitutional challenge against Ottawa.
Later this week, Ford will be in Calgary to meet with Jason Kenney, leader of the United Conservative Party, and attend an anti-carbon-tax rally.
Ford will speak at the party’s “Scrap the Carbon Tax” event Friday with Kennedy, whose party is the official opposition.
In a statement, Ford said Moe and Kenney “share our commitment to protect Canadian families from this unfair and punishing tax.”
“The carbon tax is the absolute worst tax for Canadian families, Canadian businesses and the Canadian economy. It does nothing for the environment but instead takes money out of the pockets of hard-working people in order to fuel out-of-control government spending,” Ford said.
“I look forward to building a strong and united front with like-minded leaders who share our commitment to protecting our economy, protecting jobs and protecting the people from this costly and regressive tax.”

 
10larry
#132
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Oh, different taxpayer then?

No same sad sac taxpayer that libs luv to pillage, the trudough freeland team gained diddly but fed trumps ego blessing his new USmca trade deal and getting his fingers into our dairy business. Our pm (hate sayin that) pledged his farmers would be compensated. Ford as politicians are inclined to do was just making a little political hay, justyn hasta find the coin ford got a freebie sound byte.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+2
#133
Quote: Originally Posted by 10larry View Post

No same sad sac taxpayer that libs luv to pillage, the trudough freeland team gained diddly but fed trumps ego blessing his new USmca trade deal and getting his fingers into our dairy business. Our pm (hate sayin that) pledged his farmers would be compensated. Ford as politicians are inclined to do was just making a little political hay, justyn hasta find the coin ford got a freebie sound byte.

Agricultiral subsidies ... Why just dairy? Why not cherry farmers? Why not oil seeds so the Petros can put in a new pool?
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#134
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Agricultiral subsidies ... Why just dairy? Why not cherry farmers? Why not oil seeds so the Petros can put in a new pool?


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WE got all this NAFTA upheaval just so LIE-berals could REFUSE to deal honestly with national security issues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WE now have tariffs on steel and aluminum and the tariffs on softwood lumber remain in place!!!!!!!!!!!


WE have reductions in Cdn dairy sales and more Yankee milk products spiced with Bovine Growth Hormone that Health Canada insists is dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!


We suffered all this economic stress juist so LIE-berals could make Canada into a happy haven for returning Islamic fighters and for Muslim radicals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now the Trump tariffs will ensure Yankees have enough money to guard their northern border a bit better!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What a great victory for LIE-beral values!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HYPOCRISY to the front please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#135
Climate Barbie is going to seal the end of the Libs.

Feds will be ready for carbon tax on Jan. 1
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#136
Ontario PC bill to permanently remove benefits from convicted ISIS fighters ‘unconstitutional’, say experts

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The Ontario Progressive Conservative government’s proposed plan to permanently strip convicted terrorists of benefits like access to healthcare coverage could be unconstitutional and exceeds the powers of a provincial government, say legal experts.

The private member’s bill sponsored by PC MPP Dave Smith, formerly called the Terrorist Activity Sanctions Act, would permanently remove those convicted of a terrorist offence from obtaining privileges like an Ontario driver’s licence, accessing provincial health coverage, housing assistance, or even a fishing and hunting licence.
Carissima Mathen, a professor of constitutional law at the University of Ottawa, said the bill could violate section 7 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which protects a person’s right to life.
“Even people in prison are entitled to medical treatment. So the idea that once someone, if paroled you can just kick them off health care, is not going fly,” Mathen told Global News.
She said the proposed legislation is also outside the mandate of the Ontario government as violations of the Canadian criminal code are a federal responsibility.
“Permanently stripping someone of healthcare is so extreme. This does not read as serious public policy,” Mathen said.
The bill announced over the weekend amends several acts to add additional punishments for individuals convicted under anything in sections 83.18 to 83.221 of the Criminal Code, which cover acts like participating in terror activities or leaving Canada to commit acts of terrorism.
“No person is entitled to continue to be an insured person if the person has been convicted of an offence under any of sections 83.18 to 83.221 of the Criminal Code (Canada) on or after the day this subsection comes into force,” says part of Terrorist Activity Sanctions Act.
In addition to removing access to certain social programs, the children of those convicted would also be considered "in need of protection" as defined by the Child, Youth and Family Services Act, which allows the government to remove the child from the parents' care, either permanently or temporarily.
Premier Doug Ford and other PC MPPs have said the bill was created to address the issue of returning members of the so-called Islamic State and perceived inaction from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
“I am disgusted that the federal government is not dealing with this,” Smith told reporters Monday. “What we’re doing is we are taking away privileges from criminals. … We are making sure that no terrorist has more privileges than someone else in the province.”
Smith defended the bill, saying that a person who spends too long living outside of Canada can lose their provincial health insurance. However, Smith did not mention that a person can apply to have benefits reinstated after returning to Canada.
“I am not going to let Justin Trudeau do something that compromises the safety of Ontario,” Smith said.
Michael Nesbitt, an assistant professor of law at the University of Calgary, said despite the rhetoric from Conservatives at the provincial and federal levels, there are already laws to prosecute individuals who commit terrorism.
“We absolutely have a number of criminal laws on the book that would deal with these individuals. This legislation would seem to piggyback on that,” Nesbitt told Global News. “You are duplicating what is already happening at the federal level.”
Both Nesbitt and Mathen said the Ford government is exceeding its authority, as provinces can only prosecute a person for violating a provincial law. Terrorism is a federal responsibility.
“The province can only prosecute you for violating its own laws. Here they are trying to punish someone for violating a federal law and they can’t do that,” Mathen said.
The proposed act would amount to “de facto banishment,” according to Mathen, and a person who has been released after serving a prison sentence should not continue to be punished for the rest of their lives.
“We do that with murderers, people who have committed violent sexual assaults,” she said. “We reintegrate them. If they are reintegrated, they have the same social rights as everyone else.”
The proposal follows renewed debate around the issue of Canadian ISIS fighters who want to return to Canada. The Trudeau government has come under increased pressure following a series of Global News reports about Canadians captured in Syria over allegations they had been involved in ISIS.
One of them, Muhammad Ali, said in an interview he had served in an ISIS sniper unit. Global News has confirmed that U.S.-backed Kurdish forces are holding at least three Canadians accused of being ISIS fighters, three Canadian wives of ISIS foreign fighters and seven children.
Asked how removing someone’s driver’s license or OHIP card might fight terrorism, PC House Leader Todd Smith said it sends a “strong signal” to the federal government and has the full support of the Ontario PC caucus.
“We don’t believe terrorists should be coming,” Smith said, who confirmed the bill was tabled Monday afternoon. “It’s not going to fight terrorism, but what it’s going to do is tell terrorists that they are not welcome here in Ontario.”
In Ottawa Monday, the federal Conservatives tabled a motion in the House of Commons calling on the Trudeau to put forward a plan within 45 days for bringing to justice those who fought with the Islamic State.
The Liberals said they would support the motion, despite disagreeing with certain portions of it.

Pretty clear message IMO
 
petros
+1
#137
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Our rootin-tootin, straight shootin', conservative's Conservative Premier wants agricultural subsidies!
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...tion-1.4845481

He got them and very rapidly.

Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland says farmers will receive compensation from the federal government in the freshly-inked NAFTA replacement deal, called the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, or USMCA.

That comes just hours after Ontario Premier Doug Ford began calling for that compensation.
 
petros
+1
#138
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Agricultiral subsidies ... Why just dairy? Why not cherry farmers? Why not oil seeds so the Petros can put in a new pool?

Because I don't farm in Quebec.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#139
I don't remember any compensation when we got sold down the river in NAFTA 1
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#140
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Ontario PC bill to permanently remove benefits from convicted ISIS fighters ‘unconstitutional’, say experts



Pretty clear message IMO


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HERE WE GO YET AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Can you idiot LIE-berals SPELL "NOT WITHSTANDING CLAUSE"????????????????????????????????


Oh sure- OUR idiot Boy Justin will SNARL and make all sorts of mean noises at Ford!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And then......................GUESS WHAT??????????????????????????????


Our idiot Boy will find something else to distract him at the critical moment and FORD WILL WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our LIE-berals wear the Omar Khadr Krap like a hair shirt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And compared to Isis, bomb maker Khadr was almost innocent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Khadr "ONLY" made bombs to kill soldiers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Isis raped and murdered and tortured and beheaded CIVILIANS at every opportunity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy will NOT want to run an election based on defending ISIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


One has only to look at Quebec- where local govt has REFUSED to take in any more illegals and thus - to salvage Quebec votes- Our idiot Boy has shipped the illegals off to Ontari-owe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy will - in the end- be FORCED to ensure that Isis fighters NOT be allowed to settle back in Ontari-owe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In fact it might end up being a MAJOR constitutional CRISIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


After all- if Ford can prevent Isis fighters from coming to Ontari-owe- then what is to prevent other provincial govts to demand the same deal??????????????????


In fact- considering what a two faced little weasel Our idiot Boy is- he may decide to STALL and do nothing about Isis till after the 2019 election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If he wins- then Isis comes home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If idiot Boy is defeated- then the new govt gets to deal with Isis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All LIE-beral policy is FAILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thus far the ONLY election goodie we have been offered is a carbon crap and trade rebate - one that will give us pennies while LIE-berals collect dollars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And if LIE-berals think a carbon tax rebate is a GOOD IDEA.............then WHY NOT KILL THE TAX??????????????????



And save all that paperwork??????????????????


Unless of course LIE-berals are issuing Fake News about the REAL COST of their carbon crap and trade scam?????????????????


Massive bribery and colossal deficits defended by endless LIES did not save Wynne-bag LIE-berals so WHY should such tactics save Our idiot Boy?????????????????
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#141
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Kind'a hard to keep any promises when it comes to existing programs considering the absolute f*cking mess the Liberals left province's finances in.

Incompetent politicians always blame previous governments. Ignorant taxpayers do as well
 
spilledthebeer
#142
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Incompetent politicians always blame previous governments. Ignorant taxpayers do as well


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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Clueless LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They INVENTED the "blame the previous govt excuse"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals used that excuse till it WORE OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Fully FIFTEEN YEARS AFTER Mike Harris was GONE- they will still using the blame Harris game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LOIE-berals have just demonstrted that they have run out of ideas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The only excuse they can offer is "its the fault of the other guy"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Harris DID NOT FORCE LIE-berals to run us into debt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Ford has hired third party auditors to PROVE that Wynne-bag LIE-berals told SERIOUS LIES about their alleged balanced budgets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But we should NOT be surprised at the scale an scope of LIE-beral Fake News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We have only to recall what a hash they made of investigating the Walkerton water disaster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals were FRANTIC in their efforts to help their civil service union Hog allies HIDE juts how much drunken HOG stupidity took palce in Walkeron in the time leading up to SEVEN DEAD and over a hundred seriously ill- with some of them looking at kidney dialysis for the REST of their SHORTENED LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And how is it that drunken, incompetent, UNQUALIFIED moron Stan Kabel - the alcoholic at the heart of the disaster- was able to move on TO YET ANOTHER WELL PAID UNION HOG JOB????????????????????


Kabel did not even suffer the loss of any pension money during the enforced job switch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#143
Federal minister says Saskatchewan and Ontario 'playing political games' after provinces skip trade meeting

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The premiers of Saskatchewan and Ontario met in Toronto on Monday to talk trade, drawing the ire of a federal minister less than a week after the two provinces decided not to send officials to a meeting of federal, provincial and territorial representatives on trade in Vancouver.
"It's extremely disappointing to see Ontario and Saskatchewan play political games with such an important economic file after being the only provinces absent from the table at last week's meeting in Vancouver on Internal Trade and the USMCA," said federal minister of Intergovernmental Affairs Dominic LeBlanc in a statement.
"The Premiers need to stop putting their partisan interests ahead of the growth of the economy and the well-being of Canadians."
On Monday, Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe and Ontario Premier Doug Ford held their second meeting this month to discuss trade and voice their shared opposition to the federal government's carbon plan. Ford was in Saskatoon on Oct. 4 to meet with Moe and Saskatchewan business leaders.
On Monday, the two premiers signed a memorandum of understanding to begin bilateral discussions to lower trade barriers between the two provinces.
"I am so proud to have a partner like Premier Moe work with us to make new jobs, new investment and new growth a reality in both provinces," Ford said.
Ford said he "looked forward" to working with other province's to bring down trade barriers.
When asked about missing the meeting last week in Vancouver, Moe said, "it is my understanding that there was six provinces not present."
"I was disappointed that Ontario and Saskatchewan were singled out in that communication but there were six provinces that were not present at that meeting," Moe said.
LeBlanc's office sent the attendees list of both the ad hoc meeting of internal trade ministers and the briefing on the USMCA held on Oct. 25. According to the list provided by the minister`s office, each province and territory had at least one representative, with the exception of Saskatchewan and Ontario.
When Ford was asked why he did not send representatives he said, "we just signed an MOU and we're going to move forward on that MOU and I'll keep it at that."
Ford said Canadian premiers "spent hours" talking about first aid kits at a recent meeting "when we should be doing something a little more productive. We'll get this done and other provinces can join."

Minister calls Vancouver meeting 'political, partisan'

On Monday, Saskatchewan's Minister of Trade Jeremy Harrison defended not attending the meetings in Vancouver.
"It was an ad hoc meeting called by the feds with nowhere near the amount of notice that generally be put into these things," Harrison said.
LeBlanc's office said the invitation to the Vancouver meeting was sent on Oct. 5.
"I'll tell what the purpose of the meeting was it was political and it was partisan," Harrison said.
Harrison said premiers have raised the issue of a lack of competitiveness and that the federal government has been avoiding dealing with it.
Harrison said an "official" internal trade meeting has been called for the end of November, which the government plans on attending.
"We're going to the real one," he said.
Harrison said the attendance list supplied by Minister LeBlanc's office was "entirely dishonest." He said six provincial ministers skipped the meetings.
Harrison pointed out that British Columbia's trade minister did not attend the meeting despite it being held in Vancouver.
On the MOU signed between Saskatchewan and Ontario, Harrison said the two province's had been working on it with some intensity for the last seven to 10 days.

 
spilledthebeer
+1
#144
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Federal minister says Saskatchewan and Ontario 'playing political games' after provinces skip trade meeting


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Well............OF COURSE IT IS A POLITICAL GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals want to be elected in spite of their costly, divisive, bigoted, and entirely FAILED POLICIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But Ford and Moe are crazy enough to think they can SALVAGE something of our LIE-beral ravaged economy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ford and Moe are brave enough to think they can get around the endless LIE-beral Fake News and disgraceful vote buying!!!!!!!!!!!!



So let the games CONTINUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But based on the play so far - we SHOULD NOT expect Our idiot Boy Justin to score many points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot By is WAY OUT OF HIS LEAGUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#145
Ontario PC Party passes resolution to not recognize gender identity

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The Ontario PC Party has passed resolution to no longer recognize gender identity theory, sources tell Global News.
The vote happened Saturday morning, during the party's three-day convention in Toronto.

The resolution says gender identity theory is "A highly controversial, unscientific 'liberal ideology'; and, as such, that an Ontario PC Government will remove the teaching and promotion of 'gender identity theory' from Ontario schools and its curriculum."
The vote was adopted as a party policy and is not binding government policy.
The policy, named Resolution R4, was proposed by Tanya Granic Allen, a former Ontario PC candidate in the June general election who was ousted following what the Ontario Liberals called "homophobic" comments in a 2014 video.

 
spilledthebeer
#146
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Ontario PC Party passes resolution to not recognize gender identity


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Yeah- Tanya Granic Allen is a hot dog and a show boater and a publicity hound.....................


The party was right to DUMP HER onto the side lines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And this resolution of hers will be discussed in all necessary detail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There be some rolling of eyes and it wil be agreed that it is an idiot subject to deal with since the Party has MUCH BIGGER FISH TO FRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Like the $16 billion dollar deficit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
JamesBondo
#147
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Twin_Moose
Conservative
#148
Even the Green party is admitting that clean energy cannot stand alone as true alternative to fossil fuels

Ford government's climate plan will cut jobs, not emissions, green advocates say

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Ontario's new climate plan won't do much to cut greenhouse gas emissions, but it will cost the province jobs, say some people involved with companies in the emerging clean technologies sector.
Tom Rand of Arctern Ventures says the Progressive Conservative government's policies have already cost jobs and hurt investment, and the new plan will accelerate those losses.
"There's a global race on to build clean-tech solutions, to build technologies that allow us to decouple economic activity from carbon emissions," Rand said. "Ontario just signaled that it is not serious about going after that market."
Environment Minister Rod Phillips says the province's plan will stimulate private investment in clean energy through a $400-million, taxpayer-funded Ontario Carbon Trust — which will encourage large polluters to adopt clean technologies. The plan does not include a tax on carbon.
The trust replaces the previous Liberal regime's cap-and-trade system, under which greenhouse gas emissions were capped and companies bought and traded permits to pollute. The provincial government re-invested the money from the transactions in green industries.
"The idea of recycling the cap-and-trade money back into industries in order to allow them to reduce emissions at the scale of billions of dollars a year is a relevant and reasonable approach to saying Ontario was going go after the clean tech market," said Rand.
"Throwing 500 million bucks at it and over a number of years, it's not a serious effort."
And Rand says it will be more and more difficult to keep those green tech companies in Ontario.
Robin Edger, the Ontario regional director with the Pembina Institute, a non-profit thank-tank that deals with energy issues, says cancelling incentive programs has already had an impact.
For example, he says, retrofit companies lost business when incentives to make homes more energy efficient were cut and car companies are feeling the impact of the cancellation of electric vehicle rebates.
"I think it looks good to throw $500 million at an industry. It sounds like a big number," Edger said.
"But you spread that over a few years, it's pennies. This reversal in direction on climate leadership will cost us jobs and clean innovative industries and put our economic future at risk."
Edger says the new climate plan fails to acknowledge that other economies are transitioning to cleaner technologies and there is a global market for low-carbon products and services worth an estimated $7.5 trillion a year.
"This government's plan does nothing for that sector. We're not well placed to compete," Edger said.
And there are doubts whether the climate-change plan will help Ontario meet its Paris Agreement targets by 2030.
"Not putting a price on carbon is still a huge concern for us because this is going to make it very difficult to actually get to the emissions reductions we want to achieve. We don't have the investments to actually take those actions," said Dusha Sritharan of the Toronto Environmental Alliance.
The Progressive Conservative government won't put a price on carbon and, in fact, Ontario is one of several provinces going to court to stop the federal government from imposing a carbon tax.

So essentially the Green party and the opposition are admitting that fossil fuel prices must be artificially inflated to make the appearance that alternative energy is a viable option. Also Alternative energy cannot survive without taxpayer support so the alternative energy industry jobs are kinda public employees.
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#149
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

Even the Green party is admitting that clean energy cannot stand alone as true alternative to fossil fuels

Ford government's climate plan will cut jobs, not emissions, green advocates say



So essentially the Green party and the opposition are admitting that fossil fuel prices must be artificially inflated to make the appearance that alternative energy is a viable option. Also Alternative energy cannot survive without taxpayer support so the alternative energy industry jobs are kinda public employees.




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Too bad Greens, NDpers and LIE-berals are all in the same biased boat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NOBODY WANTS to talk about the QUICKEST WAY TO SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


I refer of course to cutting back on gravy for civil service union Hogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


The evidence has mounted very rapidly in recent years that air planes are by far the single biggest driver of greenhouse gas emissions and global warming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We could save our environment by simply admitting we do not have the money needed to honour the LIE-beral issued hog pension IOUs!!!!!!!!!!!


And of course it is Hog pensions that are DRIVING air travel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Anecdotal evidence indicates it is govt Hogs that do most of the flying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Therefore Hogs do most of the climate changing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our Hogs are caught up in a vast, economy breaking conflict of interest with their LIE-beral allies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



AND nobody wants to study ANY of this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








Here is an interesting article that illustrates how poorly LIE-berals are handling environmental issues. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Empty skies after 9/11 set the stage for an unlikely climate change experiment.

By Patrick Cain National Online Journalist, News Global News. Sept 12, 2016.

(Some reader swill recall my previous posts- with information taken from Cdn Geographic magazine about how the 9/11 terror attack grounded 25 percent of the worlds airline fleet- and a year later the air across the planet was measurably cleaner! This article expands on that old report!)

On the morning of September 11, 2001, officials at the U.S. national air control centre couldn’t make out what was happening, at first.

As controllers watched the second plane crash into the World Trade Center complex just after 9 a.m., however, it became clear that the first one hadn’t been a spectacular accident, but something much more sinister. Planes were becoming fuel-filled missiles. How many? Nobody knew.

Officials at the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration did the only thing they could think of to try to control the situation: ordering every aircraft in U.S. airspace, about 4,000 of them, to land somewhere, anywhere, immediately.

Canadian officials followed. Airports in Atlantic Canada quickly filled with thousands of bewildered people who had been flying west across the Atlantic from Europe, but found themselves stranded in Goose Bay, Labrador or Stephenville, Nfld.

Within a few hours, the skies across the continent were empty except for military aircraft. Here’s what it looked like: Civilian air traffic wouldn’t resume for three days.

Thousands of jet aircraft leave contrails over North America every day, especially over the U.S. eastern seaboard and the Midwest. Contrails are created when water vapour in hot air blasted out of jet engines freezes in the intense cold of high altitudes.

Do all those jet trails change weather patterns? It’s hard to tell, normally. But with the once-busy skies silent and empty, the scene was set for a giant experiment.

“I remember walking to and from my office (in the days after the attacks) and thinking how incredibly clear the skies were,” Andrew Carleton, a geographer at Pennsylvania State University, later wrote.

About a year after the attacks, Carleton, David Travis, a geographer at the University of Wisconsin, and another colleague argued in a paper that thin clouds created by contrails reduce the range of temperatures. By contributing to cloud cover during the day, they reflect solar energy that would otherwise have reached the earth’s surface. At night, they trap warmth that would otherwise have escaped.

The effect during the three days that flights were grounded was strongest in populated regions where air traffic was normally densest. The increase in range came to about two degrees Celsius.

(IN other words- it isnt just the carbon monoxide and other gases that engines produce that we must worry about! The water vapour being generated is also a SERIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL THREAT! And the latest jet engines have the ironic quality of being both more fuel efficient and more environmentally unsound since the new engines spit out larger lumps of carbon that water droplets coalesce around more easily than the smaller lumps from older engines! The new more fuel efficient engines actually accelerate the production of contrails! And the new Airbus 380`s actually fly few thousand ft higher where the air is even colder and condensation is further facilitated!)

Other studies have tended to back up the research. In 2011, British scientists wrote that an air raid in May 1944 involving over 1,400 aircraft measurably lowered daytime temperatures in England. In that case, the situation was the reverse of 9/11 – large-scale air travel was unknown, and dense concentrations of large planes were rare.

In 2004, NASA scientist Patrick Minnis wrote that “increased cirrus coverage, attributable to air traffic, could account for nearly all of the warming observed over the United States for nearly 20 years starting in 1975.”

Minnis also argued that a steady increase in cloud cover over the United States, about one per cent a decade, was due to increasing air travel. He also found that increases in cloud cover were more pronounced in populated areas, and stronger in winter, when contrails are bigger.

The warming effect happened because the high-altitude clouds that contrails created tended to trap warm air, Minnis wrote. On balance, though contrails can both warm and cool, there is more of a warming effect.

A Penn State study compared regions of the United States where contrails tended to form more strongly with areas where they didn’t. The more contrail-heavy the area, the less the variation between daytime highs and nighttime lows tended to be.

In a 2005 paper, physicist Robert Noland of Imperial College London suggested that restricting airliners to 31,000 feet, and 24,000 feet in winter, could reduce the formation of contrails. Though lower-flying planes would be less fuel-efficient, Noland argued that the increased fuel consumption would be more than made up for by less contrail-linked clouds as a cause of global warming.

(So we now have solid proof that airplane contrails are contributing to global warming and are a major source of air pollution - just as the old articles from Cdn Geographic magazine claimed. Therefore the LIE-beral carbon crap and trade tax will do NOTHING to clean the air- nor save us from global warming! As I and many others have repeatedly pointed out- LIE-beral crap and trade just cleans wallets and leaves the dirt in the air!)

(The carbon crap and trade tax is nothing more than a LIE-beral gravy grabbing scam that will ensure that civil service union Hogs can continue to spew their major masses of carbon from their gas guzzling toys and will continue to fly to places like Florida- at vast environmental cost- for those vitally important rounds of golf! And we have yet to discuss the environmental degradation brought on by heavy use of pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers at those golf courses- which all to often run into the nearest body of water after a rain storm- with MORE ugly environmental results!)
 
Twin_Moose
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This should make you happy STB Because specialists jumped to another Union for less benefits the whole deal should be scrapped, so Ford is watering down the gravy

Ford government move to bail on binding arbitration with doctors 'affront to the law,' OMA says

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The government of Premier Doug Ford has pulled out of binding arbitration with the association representing the province's physicians, according to documents obtained by CBC Toronto, citing a "lack of confidence" in the Ontario Medical Association (OMA).
The government informed the OMA of its decision on Monday.
Lawyers representing the OMA say the move is "unprecedented [and] an affront to the rule of law," in a letter obtained by CBC Toronto.
Government lawyers argued the province cannot proceed in negotiating with the OMA when there is "public dispute in the profession about whether the OMA is the exclusive representation of physicians in Ontario."
In a November vote, eight units of the OMA voted to leave and join the Ontario Specialists Association. Those who voted to leave represent 10 per cent of specialists in the province, and 5 per cent of the association's membership.
Many of those who voted to leave were subjected to cuts in the fees they can charge to the government for services.

'An abuse of provisional power': labour lawyer
Labour lawyer Muneeza Sheikh with Levitt LLP says the argument by the province is "completely absurd" and "and an abuse of provisional power.
"Under the Arbitration Act, there's a legal obligation to continue within this process and one party, cannot simply even if you're the provincial government pull the plug unilaterally," she told CBC Toronto.
The government's argument that internal labour politics within the OMA disqualifies the entire arbitration process "makes no sense," Sheikh said.
"It is truly setting a dangerous precedent," she added.
Should the province not return to arbitration meetings scheduled for Dec.15, Sheikh says the OMA has multiple legal options, including launching a legal challenge claiming the government is violating the Arbitration Act, or suing for breach of contract over the 2017 deal with the province that set the framework for bargaining.

'Will send a chill through labour': OPSEU president

When reached for comment Tuesday night, OPSEU president Smokey Thomas was shocked.
"I've actually asked my lawyers ... to look at this," he said in a telephone interview.
"I honestly don't see how they can do this," he added.
"This is unheard of in Ontario."
OPSEU is currently in arbitration with its correctional bargaining unit and the province.
"They got no right messing around in internal politics [of the OMA]," Thomas added.
No one from the premier's office or the Ministry of Health and Long Term Care responded to initial requests by CBC Toronto for comment.