Boris needs to make a formal pact with Nigel


Blackleaf
#1
Farage, one of the most impressive politicians of the past 50 years, should sail to Johnson’s rescue. There needs to be a formal pact between his party and the Tories...

ROD LIDDLE Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party and the Conservatives need to make a formal pact

COMMENT
Rod Liddle
The Sun
4 Sep 2019

HAD you ever even heard of Dr Phillip Lee? I hadn’t. I suspect there are members of his family who have only heard of him vaguely.

Phil’s the bloke who destroyed Boris Johnson’s parliamentary majority a couple of days ago. Puffed up with his own self-importance, he marched across the House of Commons to join the Liberal Democrats.


Farage, one of the most impressive politicians of the past 50 years, should sail to Johnson’s rescue

He had been elected as a Conservative for the seat of Bracknell. But Phil’s a staunch Remainer and cannot abide the views of his own party. Or his constituents, who voted by a majority to leave. Or his local party activists, who are in favour of Brexit. So off he went to join Jo Swimsuit’s tiny band of gibbering hobgoblins.

I don’t know how long Phil will last in the Lib Dems. Some of his new party colleagues have already resigned because they can’t stand him. Largely because of his views on gay marriage.

Either way, I think we can be pretty sure that is the first and last time you’ll ever hear of Dr Phil. His political career, such that it was, is over. Yes, I know. Try to restrain your grief. We will rebuild!

Phil was the first of this week’s vast exodus of nobodies and numpties from the remainer wing of the Conservative Party. Some had already gone before, of course. That demented squawkbox Anna Soubry got the hell out a while ago.

Meanwhile, Justine Greening announced she won’t be standing in the next election because she wishes to spend more time with herself. What a loss. The worst education secretary in living memory.

But the rest were given their marching orders by Boris Johnson. On Tuesday night the Tory remainer rebels treacherously voted against their own party. And voted against the democratically expressed wishes of the British people.

They had been threatened with expulsion and deselection from their comfortable constituencies if they did so. My guess is that most of them didn’t think Boris would have the balls to kick them out. Certainly not that complacent old warhorse Ken Clarke.

What a delight it is to report that Boris did have the balls. He told them the whip was withdrawn and that they would be deselected. It was exactly the right thing to do.

RIGHT THING TO DO

These remainers have spent three years trying to thwart Britain’s exit from the European Union. Or trying to weaken Brexit so it isn’t really Brexit at all.

They have worked against the national interest and the wishes of the British people. And the wishes of Conservative activists. Not to mention their own constituents, who, in almost every case, were by a majority for leaving the EU.

That hopeless of old toff windbag Sir Nicholas Soames, for example. Grandson of Winston Churchill he may well be. But he’s been in the House for a quarter of a century and never said the remotest thing of interest or importance. In his case, the apple fell a long, long way from the tree.

The rest of the 21? Someone called Antoinette Sandbach, crazy name, crazy gal. Anne Milton, from Guildford. Ed Vaizey. Nah, I’m not going to lose much sleep over the loss of these monkeys. And nor will their local associations.

And then there is Philip Hammond. There has not been a single politician, on either side of the House, who has more damaged our attempts to leave the EU than this humourless, grey-faced reptile.

When Theresa May was flailing around in Brussels, trying to act tough with the negotiators, the appalling Hammond — her Chancellor — was back home telling the Press that No Deal would never happen and was off the menu entirely.

Brilliant strategy, Hammond. May had the rug pulled from under her feet by him time and time again. He should have been sacked two years ago. For all this, he is lauded as a hero by The Guardian. If a Tory politician is getting praise from that rag, he should know he’s doing something very wrong.

So in principle, Boris was entirely right to line up these losers and make them walk the plank. Instil a bit of discipline into a party which has been torn apart by Brexit. But it has come at a terrific cost.

The Prime Minister no longer has a working majority. Indeed, he is now 43 short of a working majority. The mathematics of Parliament is entirely against him. And just as it has always been, the mathematics of Parliament is against Brexit.

That’s why Bojo decided to suspend Parliament. Because while Parliament is sovereign, that sovereignty devolves from the people — just as Jacob Rees-Mogg said in a stirring address to the House of Commons on Tuesday.

NO WORKING MAJORITY

It has been Parliament which all the way along has tried to derail Brexit. There has always been a large inbuilt majority against leaving the EU. And while MPs sometimes say, “We must respect the will of the people”, they tend not to mean it. In the past three years they have conspired to PREVENT the will of the people.

Boris took the view that the sovereign decision taken by the British people in June 2016 outweighed the sovereignty of Parliament on this single issue. I make him right.

It will come as no surprise that those screaming blue murder about Boris being “undemocratic” are those who never wanted to leave in the first place. The hysteria and hissy fits have been hilarious to behold.

Konnie Huq’s was the best, of course — screaming about how people had voted to have their heads chopped off. You what, love? Quite why anyone would be interested in the views of a not terribly bright former Blue Peter presenter is another matter.

But she did very neatly sum up the derangement and fury of the Remainer crowd. They simply cannot see that, when it comes to questions of democracy, the thwarting of Brexit is the biggest crime of all.

So now we have a Government which has no authority in the House of Commons. And sitting there opposite BoJo is Magic Grandpa and his retinue of dingbat Marxists, Hamas lovers and Trots.

It comes to something when the leader of an Opposition doesn’t dare support the call for a general election when the Government is in such bad shape.

But Jeremy Corbyn is terrified of an election. He knows his personal ratings put him somewhere between a bucket of cat sick and the Ebola virus. That’s the main reason he has opposed Boris’s demands for a general election so far.

He has also gone back on his deal to respect the views of the British people. He now thinks there should be a second referendum on leaving the EU. He has been forced into this position by his party, which is overwhelmingly in favour of Remain.

So what happens next? In his short time as Prime Minister, Boris has done exactly what should have been done three years ago, when we first began to negotiate our leaving of the EU.

FORMAL PACT

He has been positive, decisive and bullish. He has acted ruthlessly with those in his own party who refuse to respect either the 2016 vote or Conservative Party policy. Some of the credit for this must go to his adviser, the tenacious Dominic Cummings.

But BoJo has insufficient time to get a decent deal from Brussels, because the EU is showing no signs of movement. He is hamstrung in Parliament. And weighing over him is Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party, which gobbled up millions of Tory votes at the EU elections in May.

Farage, one of the most impressive politicians of the past 50 years, should sail to Johnson’s rescue. There needs to be a formal pact between his party and the Tories.

Farage should recognise that Boris has done the best he can do. If there isn’t a formal pact, we might well wake up one morning with Magic Grandpa as Prime Minister, bizarre though that might sound.

And Brexit? I still doubt it will happen. I always have. And the problem all the way along has been Parliament. It does not reflect the views of the country. It reflects instead the views of a middle-class elite which simply will not accept that other people sometimes have a different point of view.

Right now, Parliament is not fit for purpose.


Tory rebels from top left: Sam Gyimah, David Gauke, Alistair Burt, Philip Hammond, Guto Bebb, Steve Brine, Caroline Nokes; Justine Greening, Sir Nicholas Soames (Churchill's grandson), Anne Milton, Rory Stewart, Ed Vaizey, Margot James, Stephen Hammond; Ken Clarke, Richard Harrington, Sir Oliver Letwin, Richard Benyon, Dominic Grieve, Antoinette Sandbach, Greg Clark


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/986528...y-tories-pact/
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#2
Boris needs to make a formal pact with Nigel

We're always making plans for Nigel.
 
Blackleaf
#3
Here's what the Brexit Party have Tweeted:

 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Here's what the Brexit Party have Tweeted:

Crap! That looks like Maggie Thatcher's decomposing corpse!
 
Blackleaf
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Crap! That looks like Maggie Thatcher's decomposing corpse!

May is no Thatcher.
 
Blackleaf
#6
Leave voters back a Brexit alliance to win election 'landslide': Overwhelming majority of Tory and Brexit Party supporters want Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage to join forces to deliver an unassailable majority


Nigel Farage's 'non-aggression pact' would see the Tories make way for the Brexit Party in Leave-voting Labour seats which are represented by Remain-backing MPs

The overwhelming majority of Tory voters and Brexit Party supporters want Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage to agree an electoral pact before the next general election, according to a new poll, as Sajid Javid today refused to rule out an alliance. A survey for The Sunday Times found that seven in 10 people who vote Conservative and eight in 10 Brexit Party backers are in favour of the two leaders joining forces. Mr Farage has offered Mr Johnson a 'non-aggression pact' if the PM changes tack and pursues a No Deal 'clean Brexit' as the only way forward.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...gree-pact.html
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Crap! That looks like Maggie Thatcher's decomposing corpse!


I laughed because it's too freakin' true.


Also frightening as hell.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

I laughed because it's too freakin' true.
Also frightening as hell.

Scary, ain't it?

The not-quite-dead spirit of Mad Maggie haunts the Tories to this day.

That portrait looks like an Oscar Wilde invention.
 
Blackleaf
+1
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Scary, ain't it?
The not-quite-dead spirit of Mad Maggie haunts the Tories to this day.
That portrait looks like an Oscar Wilde invention.

How can one of the best PMs ever, who was also a Tory, haunt the Tories?
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

How can one of the best PMs ever, who was also a Tory, haunt the Tories?

Benjamin Disraeli?
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Benjamin Disraeli?

Sounds Jewish .
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Sounds Jewish .

He was.

Greatest British Prime Minister, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Disraeli

You'll learn something new every day pigs,of your brain hasn't become too ossified, yet.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#13
OOOooo. . . can they prick their fingers and swear to be blood brothers forever?

Nah. More likely they'd finger their pricks and swear to be wankers forever.
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
+2
#14  Top Rated Post
Seems like more and more that politicians aren't listening to their constituents - guess we're all "deplorables" in their minds and haven't a freakin' clue. We see it not only in the UK but the States & somewhat in Canada as well. Those in power hate the fact that (a lot) of people don't agree with them so are implementing various "bans" so that they have more control over the population. This needs to stop now and both Americans and Canadians need to pull their heads out of the sand and start listening to what is going on and, when the elections come, vote these a/holes out! It's getting really scary but it's up to us to put a stop to what is going on.


If you think Trump is bad (I mostly I don't), wait for it! If one of those Dems get into the W.H. then the sh+t is going to hit the fan and people are going to wonder what happened! Same as Trudorp & his ilk.


JMHO
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Benjamin Disraeli?

Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Sounds Jewish .

Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

He was.
Greatest British Prime Minister, too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Disraeli
You'll learn something new every day pigs,of your brain hasn't become too ossified, yet.


Benjamin Disraeli
(1804 - 1881)

Benjamin Disraeli was born Jewish and is therefore sometimes considered Britain's first Jewish Prime Minister. In fact, he was a practicing Anglican .

In 1839 Benjamin Disraeli married the extremely wealthy widow, Mrs. Wyndham Lewis. The marriage was a great success. On one occasion Disraeli remarked that he had married for money, and his wife replied, "Ah! but if you had to do it again, you would do it for love."
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/benjamin-disraeli

Brain damage is a terrible thing doood.

Kinda reminds one of Shabatai zvi the most highly regarded jewish messiah of all time..after starting the "redemption through sin movement in 1666 ( the last high on our TSX BTW , for the more smarter folks here ) he was discredited, so he ran off to become a muslim. Now look at them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbatai_Zevi

Not to mention a similar marriage to the one Mohammad had with a rich ol' catholic broad. innit? LOL, Also very similar to Macron the banker's marriage as well.
Last edited by Danbones; 1 week ago at 07:28 AM..
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

OOOooo. . . can they prick their fingers and swear to be blood brothers forever?
Nah. More likely they'd finger their pricks and swear to be wankers forever.

Ok, enough bill clinton pink hat lawyer talk...back on thread topic please!
Last edited by Danbones; 1 week ago at 07:29 AM..
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

He was.

Greatest British Prime Minister, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Disraeli

You'll learn something new every day pigs,of your brain hasn't become too ossified, yet.

I don’t need wiki leaks to know who Disraeli was . Thank you any way .
 
Blackleaf
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

He was.
Greatest British Prime Minister, too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Disraeli
You'll learn something new every day pigs,of your brain hasn't become too ossified, yet.

Does he haunt the Tories, too?
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Benjamin Disraeli
(1804 - 1881)
Benjamin Disraeli was born Jewish and is therefore sometimes considered Britain's first Jewish Prime Minister. In fact, he was a practicing Anglican .
In 1839 Benjamin Disraeli married the extremely wealthy widow, Mrs. Wyndham Lewis. The marriage was a great success. On one occasion Disraeli remarked that he had married for money, and his wife replied, "Ah! but if you had to do it again, you would do it for love."
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/benjamin-disraeli
Brain damage is a terrible thing doood.
Kinda reminds one of Shabatai zvi the most highly regarded jewish messiah of all time..after starting the "redemption through sin movement in 1666 ( the last high on our TSX BTW , for the more smarter folks here ) he was discredited, so he ran off to become a muslim. Now look at them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbatai_Zevi
Not to mention a similar marriage to the one Mohammad had with a rich ol' catholic broad. innit? LOL, Also very similar to Macron the banker's marriage as well.

The Anglican churches around here are full of "used to bees", too ... like used-to-be Catholic clergy who decided that they wanted to Marty.
 
Blackleaf
#20
TONY PARSONS Boris Johnson’s Nigel Farage veto may give Jeremy Corbyn the keys to No10

Comment
Tony Parsons
15 Sep 2019



NIGEL FARAGE holds out the hand of friendship to Boris Johnson – and the Prime Minister smacks him in the cakehole with a wet kipper.

The Brexit Party leader takes out a full-page ad in this newspaper offering an election pact with the Tories, and Downing Street briefs that Farage and his donor Arron Banks are “not fit and proper persons — they should never be allowed anywhere near government”.

Boris Johnson calculates that he does not need the help of Farage to secure Brexit Credit: Getty - Pool

Farage and his party represent a real seething resentment that is now felt by millions of our people Credit: Getty - Contributor

Farage says let’s work together. And the Tories gob in his eye. I guess that’s a “no” then, Nigel.

Boris Johnson calculates that he does not need the help of Farage to secure Brexit. No doubt Boris also calculates that any kind of formal alliance with the Brexit Party would scare all those Brussels-loving Tories — and goodness knows there are plenty of them, even in the PM’s own family.

And yes, Boris needs to keep the Tories as a broad church rather than an ideologically pure sect. But Tory snobs calling Farage the devil’s spawn sounds suspiciously like David Cameron’s crack about Ukip being made up of “fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists”.

As Cameron learned, such disrespectful talk can come back to kick you in the goolies. More than five million people voted for the Brexit Party in the European Elections in May, making them by far the biggest party.

That is five million people who feel they have been totally failed by democracy. Five million people who have turned away from old tribal allegiances to Labour and Conservative.

TORY SNOBS

Five million people who feel they have been treated like thick racist peasants by an establishment that openly despises them. Five million people who believe that Parliament has set itself above the will of the people. And when the general election finally comes, Boris and the Tories will desperately need those five million votes.

The future of this country will belong to the side of the debate that is most united. Jeremy Corbyn will end up on the doorstep of 10 Downing Street, gurning and waving like Albert Steptoe’s corpse, if those who fight for Brexit are more divided than those who want to abort Brexit.

Together, the Tories and the Brexit Party can bury Corbyn for ever. Divided, they give Corbyn and his drooling Marxist nutjobs the keys to 10 Downing Street.

This PM’s greatest cock-up has been spectacularly uniting the rabble alliance of Labour, Lib Dems, Greens and Scottish Nationalists.

The Remain side is more united than it has ever been. Yet Boris strenuously resists forming the alliance that could finally get Brexit done.

Responding to Downing Street’s contemptuous knock-back, Farage said his new party could be Boris Johnson’s “best friends or worst enemies”.

Some voices urge Farage to put country above party and only target the Remain parties at a general election and not take votes from the Tories. But this would require a degree of trust in the Tories that, for the millions who support the Brexit Party, simply does not exist.

We are on our third Conservative Prime Minister since the EU referendum of 2016. Leaving the European Union feels further away than ever. Why should the Brexit Party stand aside for a Tory Party that has so conspicuously failed to deliver what it promised?

CLOSET RACISTS

The bitter irony is that nothing kills Brexit faster than the Tories and the Brexit Party tearing chunks out of each other at a general election. It is not easy for Boris to get in bed with Nigel.

The Prime Minister leads a minority Government and can’t afford to have more MPs flouncing off in a giddy fit as they certainly will if Boris strikes any kind of formal pact with Farage.

And any deal Boris brings back from Brussels will never be a clean enough break for a true Brexit believer such as Nigel. But Farage and his party represent a real seething resentment that is now felt by millions of our people.

Boris ignores them at his peril. They are not fruitcakes, loonies and closet racists. They are decent working-class patriots who are sickened by our democracy-denying MPs.

They are disgusted by the way the establishment is using any means necessary to thwart the biggest vote for anything in British history. And make no mistake, the 5,248,533 who voted for the Brexit Party at the European Elections will drag themselves across broken glass to vote at the next general election, whenever MPs work up the courage to call it.

If you want to win, Boris, then you need them to vote for you. Because if their votes are split between Boris and Nigel, then what the country gets is Jeremy. It is a brutally simple equation. If the Leave vote is divided at a general election, then the death of Brexit will be the least of our country’s problems.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/993056...y-corbyn-keys/
 

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