American Culture of Violence & It's Related Politics


Tecumsehsbones
+1
#61
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

nope. there is a far better chance that they did not own guns.
https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-owners...ations-3325153

Trust me, dude. Your overall state statistic isn't granular enough. This was Sutherland Springs. That's deep in John Wayne Jesus country, where family trees don't branch.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#62
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Trust me, dude. Your overall state statistic isn't granular enough. This was Sutherland Springs. That's deep in John Wayne Jesus country, where family trees don't branch.

I really like the way you phrased that. It captures the essence perfectly.

Cudos.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#63
AP Top News
Gunman targets people at random in California town, kills 4

https://apnews.com/daa2b18d6f5542f88...am=top-stories
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
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#64
When the brits banned guns, gun violence went up


A Home Office analysis cited by Cullen had found that, between 1992-94, 14% of firearm homicides had been committed with legally held weapons. Even allowing for some slippage of weapons from legal to illegal ownership and stolen firearms, nobody expected that the surrender of legal handguns would hugely impact the rates of gun enabled crime. But few expected the 105% increase in recorded handgun crime which occurred between 1998 and 2003

But the answers did not come all at once and, as the uptick in gun crime figures for 2015 suggests, there are no grounds for complacency.

http://theconversation.com/dunblane-...aces-now-55896

reality sets in eh?
 
Colpy
Conservative
#65
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Thanks Mowich.

Good article. and of course it makes sense.

from the item:



The only variable that can explain the high rate of mass shootings in America is its astronomical number of guns.


kinda states the obvious. Doesn't it??

Explain the fact that many, many countries have a higher firearms murder rate than the USA.

Seventeen, in fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#66
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Explain the fact that many, many countries have a higher firearms murder rate than the USA.

Seventeen, in fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate

Yes and every one of them is some sort of Third World hell-hole. The Americans don't care what sort of company they keep as long as they keep their guns.
 
Hoid
+1
#67
If you want to see the USA win something sort that chart by number of guns.

They are number one there by a mile.

So they have 3.5 times higher murder rate and 5 times the number of guns than Canada.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#68
After Sandy Hook, gun rush led to 60 additional accidental deaths

https://www.axios.com/after-sandy-ho...515674137.html

but stats don't matter to this gun culture


**********

Former South Carolina police officer who fatally shot Walter Scott, an unarmed black motorist, sentenced to 20 years

https://www.washingtonpost.com/?wpis...ational&wpmk=1


That is better.
Last edited by Ocean Breeze; Dec 7th, 2017 at 06:34 PM..
 
Murphy
Conservative
#69
Do citizens (not police officers) with guns ever stop mass shootings?
By Eugene Volokh October 3, 2015

Eugene Volokh teaches free speech law, religious freedom law, church-state relations law, a First Amendment Amicus Brief Clinic, and an intensive editing workshop at UCLA School of Law, where he has also often taught copyright law, criminal law, tort law, and a seminar on firearms regulation policy.
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Backers of laws that let pretty much all law-abiding people carry concealed guns in public places often argue that these laws will sometimes enable people to stop mass shootings. Opponents occasionally ask: If that’s so, what examples can one give of civilians armed with guns stopping such shootings? Sometimes, I hear people asking if even one such example can be found, or saying that they haven’t heard of even one such example.

A while back I posted about a few examples, but since then there have been some more, so I thought I’d note them. Naturally, such examples will be rare. Even in states which allow concealed carry, there often aren’t people near a shooting who have a gun on them at the time. Many mass shootings happen in supposedly “gun-free” zones (such as schools, universities, bars, or private property posted with a no-guns sign), in which gun carrying isn’t allowed in many states. And there is no central database of such examples, many of which don’t hit the national media, especially if a gunman is stopped before he shoots many victims. Moreover, at least some examples are ambiguous, because it might be unclear — as you’ll see below — whether the shooter had been planning to kill more people when he was stopped.

Still, for whatever they are worth, here is a list of some such incidents (which deliberately excludes killings stopped by people who were off-duty police officers, or police officers from other jurisdictions, at the time of a shooting, as well as some other cases which struck me as borderline):

The rest of the article, including at least 10 examples of armed citizens saving the day, is here. And imagine that, it was published in the Washington Post!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.3f3e1494609b
 
B00Mer
No Party Affiliation
#70


A gun in the hands of an insane man.. #VegasStrong
 
Murphy
Conservative
#71
Photochop, sweetie.

But do not worry, he's as sane as you.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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#72
Quote: Originally Posted by Murphy View Post

Photochop, sweetie.

I certainly hope so! The idea of Trump with a gun is scary. He has pretty much the exact opposite set of characteristics of a safe, sane shooter.
 
B00Mer
No Party Affiliation
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#73
Quote: Originally Posted by Murphy View Post

Photochop, sweetie.

But do not worry, he's as sane as you.

Then you better lock'm up for sure..
 
Murphy
Conservative
#74
I do not believe he has had much, if any, training. He can go here when it re-opens (They had a fire).

Georgia Gun Range Offers Firearm Photos With Santa

 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
+1
#75
5-year-old kills himself with gun he found in glove box ó after father leaves him alone in car

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/5-y...-alone-in-car/

Guns and tragedy. (in a culture of violence)
 
DaSleeper
#76
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

I certainly hope so! The idea of Trump with a gun is scary. He has pretty much the exact opposite set of characteristics of a safe, sane shooter.

Only when he shoots off his mouth ...(ad-libbing)
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#77
Did 'Antifa' Pour Concrete on Tracks Causing an Amtrak Train to Derail?
Activist groups have targeted tracks in the area...
https://www.snopes.com/antifa-pour-c...ain-to-derail/

worried about Trump?

lol..worried he might call the DHS on the local commies or something?
 
TenPenny
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#78
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Did 'Antifa' Pour Concrete on Tracks Causing an Amtrak Train to Derail?
Activist groups have targeted tracks in the area...
https://www.snopes.com/antifa-pour-c...ain-to-derail/

worried about Trump?

lol..worried he might call the DHS on the local commies or something?



The fact that the engineer was running at 128 km/h in a 48km/h zone is, apparently, lost on you.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#79
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

The fact that the engineer was running at 128 km/h in a 48km/h zone is, apparently, lost on you.

Rational thought is lost on him.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#80
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

The fact that the engineer was running at 128 km/h in a 48km/h zone is, apparently, lost on you.

The Engineer was tied up. Hillary was at the throttle while Bill looked on and laughed!

Quote: Originally Posted by Murphy View Post

I do not believe he has had much, if any, training. He can go here when it re-opens (They had a fire).

Georgia Gun Range Offers Firearm Photos With Santa

Cripes; How do Americans reproduce, anyway?
 
HarperCons
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#81
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

One could say they are closer to natural environment of animal existence. It has positive sides too. Like they donít live in a imaginary world of none consequences. This means they are likely going to be much tougher then a communist bubble wrapped population of whinny snowflakes.

There are positives and negatives in every different ideology sweet hart. Just cause you want to be a communist donít mean everyone on earth has got to want to be a communist

Its related politics is the American freedom of Market Ideology. It may seem cruel and evil to youíre communist ideological viewpoint. But they donít give a fuk. Its how they want to live.

We know you think youíre communist ideology is morally superior. But they donít give a fuk. They want to live closer to the reality of Nature where they have real consequences. They donít want a government that dose everything for them

Do you think you can get that in you’re dumb thick communist ideology brainwashed head?

Its how they want to live. Let them live the way they want

>communist bubble wrapped population of whinny snowflakes.

i don't think you know what communism is.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

5-year-old kills himself with gun he found in glove box ó after father leaves him alone in car

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/5-y...-alone-in-car/

Guns and tragedy. (in a culture of violence)

ban guns now
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#82
Case against Cliven Bundy, Nevada rancher involved in 2014 armed standoff, declared a mistrial

A federal judge declared a mistrial Wednesday in the case of a Nevada rancher accused of leading an armed standoff against the government in 2014, blaming prosecutors for withholding key evidence from defense lawyers, including records about the conduct of FBI and Bureau of Land Management agents.

Chief U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro in Las Vegas dismissed a jury seated last month for the long-awaited trial of Cliven Bundy, his sons Ryan and Ammon Bundy and self-styled Montana militia leader Ryan Payne.

The decision is the latest in a string of failed prosecutions in Nevada and Oregon against those who have opposed federal control of vast swaths of land in Western states.

Case against Cliven Bundy, Nevada rancher involved in 2014 armed standoff, declared a mistrial | Fox News
Well those two bit, murdering, lying, CATTLE RUSSLIN' gun takin', LAND thieves.


Looks like the LYING, land stealing, anti gun liebarrels have done kicked their own sick MURDERING loser a$$es this time..and like the recent loss of Michael Mann and man made global warming, they did it to them selves in court too. Which is where they are in reality on every lefty issue - LOSERISTAS.

Thanks to obumber and his little gang of America and "free world" haters.
THERE IS YOUR DOMESTIC TERRORISM and ANTI AMERICAN VIOLENCE right there.


Go Clive!!! DON"T GIVE UP YOUR GUNS!!!!

PS
So where does this leave the FBI on their outright murder of Roy Finicum?
Last edited by Danbones; Dec 20th, 2017 at 10:14 PM..
 
Hoid
#83
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post



A gun in the hands of an insane man.. #VegasStrong

he does have tiny little hands
 
HarperCons
#84
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Case against Cliven Bundy, Nevada rancher involved in 2014 armed standoff, declared a mistrial

A federal judge declared a mistrial Wednesday in the case of a Nevada rancher accused of leading an armed standoff against the government in 2014, blaming prosecutors for withholding key evidence from defense lawyers, including records about the conduct of FBI and Bureau of Land Management agents.

Chief U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro in Las Vegas dismissed a jury seated last month for the long-awaited trial of Cliven Bundy, his sons Ryan and Ammon Bundy and self-styled Montana militia leader Ryan Payne.

The decision is the latest in a string of failed prosecutions in Nevada and Oregon against those who have opposed federal control of vast swaths of land in Western states.

Case against Cliven Bundy, Nevada rancher involved in 2014 armed standoff, declared a mistrial | Fox News
Well those two bit, murdering, lying, CATTLE RUSSLIN' gun takin', LAND thieves.


Looks like the LYING, land stealing, anti gun liebarrels have done kicked their own sick MURDERING loser a$$es this time..and like the recent loss of Michael Mann and man made global warming, they did it to them selves in court too. Which is where they are in reality on every lefty issue - LOSERISTAS.

Thanks to obumber and his little gang of America and "free world" haters.
THERE IS YOUR DOMESTIC TERRORISM and ANTI AMERICAN VIOLENCE right there.


Go Clive!!! DON"T GIVE UP YOUR GUNS!!!!

PS
So where does this leave the FBI on their outright murder of Roy Finicum?

>land stealing,

capitalism is all about land stealing.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#85
Multiple people were shot today at a business in Long Beach, authorities said.

Long Beach police said they responded to the incident near Long Beach Boulevard and San Antonio Drive in the Bixby Knolls area and found multiple causalities. They said it was no long considered an active shooting scene.

Los Angeles Times - News from the nation, world and California - Los Angeles Times
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#86
Donít ram him ó shoot himí: Sheriff caught on tape ordering fatal shooting of unarmed man in slow-speed chase

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/don...w-speed-chase/



"god" bless America.. The new Trumpocracy.
 
Murphy
Conservative
#87
Your hate for Trump is strong. Was Trump in charge of the police operation?
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#88
LOL, cops shooting an unarmed man NEVER happened under obomba

LOl even not counting all the "innocent" deaths BLM was blabbing on about...
( which must have happened on Obomba's watch, not to mention the clinton death list )

He was too busy bombing wedding and funerals in countries the US isn't even at war with, and in some cases was allies with.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#89
Quote:

Multiple fatalities in South Florida high school shooting, superintendent says

https://www.washingtonpost.com/?wpis...ational&wpmk=1

America: LOVE THEIR GUNS..........and ROSES.......for the dead


A nation cannot be progressive as long as it has this weapons and defensive mentality..

********

and from another source:

Quote:

Suspect taken into custody after multiple fatalities in high school shooting


https://nypost.com/2018/02/14/deputi...7571-719638119
Last edited by Ocean Breeze; Feb 14th, 2018 at 05:27 PM..
 
Murphy
Conservative
+1
#90
You really should read papers other than the Washington Post.

https://www.commonsensemedia.org/lis...urces-for-kids