American Culture of Violence & It's Related Politics


Curious Cdn
Conservative
#31
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Suddenly it no longer matters what economics I believe in. I am a communist. A communist who believes in free enterprise and free trade and private property.

What a world we live in.

See, there's another one, already!

What's the quota for bootlace production over the next half decade?
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#32
Multiple casualties after church shooting in Texas

https://www.axios.com/multiple-casua...lerts_politics


at what point does it become an abuse of the amendment issue?? Seems they take a lot of latitude with the "interpretation" of the relevant amendment.(to suit their love of weaponry )
 
Vbeacher
#33
mmmmmmmm
Last edited by Vbeacher; Nov 5th, 2017 at 04:40 PM..
 
darkbeaver
Republican
+1
#34
Perfidious Albion

Moscow Outmaneuvers Washington’s Kurdistan Project


For the moment it looks as if Russian three-dimensional geopolitical chess moves in the turbulent Middle East have thrown a giant monkey wrench into Washington plans to create an independent Kurdistan. In September the Kurdish population in Iraq voted apparently overwhelmingly for creation of an independent Kurdistan that would control some of the richest oil fields of Iraq in and around Kirkuk as well. Today, a month later, Massoud Barzani, the US and Israel-backed Kurd leader, is facing a major loss of powers from the Iraq Kurd Parliament. In the middle of the fast-changing developments—whose outcome is decisive to far more than the Middle East—is Russia and the Russian state-owned oil giant, Rosneft.
Contrary to the slick US and EU propaganda that has portrayed former President Massoud Barzani and his Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP) as champions of western-style democracy, Barzani is a clan warlord who has ruthlessly pursued ethnic cleansing against a Yazidi and Christian Assyrian minority in order to gain control of oil lands those peoples had historically occupied until 2014. The Barzani clan and his Peshmerga military arm were trained beginning the late 1960s by Israeli Mossad Lt Colonel Tzuri Sagi, initially to go against Saddam Hussein’s rule. Israeli ties to the Barzani clan have remained since.
Since that time the Massoud Barzani clan has built a dictatorial power in the Kurdish region of Iraq using assassination, corruption and since 2014, control of sales of Iraqi oil via Turkey. Such is Barzani’s mafia-power, despite the fact that his term as President of the Iraqi Kurdistan ended in 2015 and the Kurd regional parliament refused to renew it, he has ruled since without any legal basis by preventing the parliament from convening and formally ousting him. Massoud’s son controls the region’s security council and all all military and civilian intelligence.
Barzani, with open backing of Israel’s Netanyahu, despite major opposition from most of the world, went ahead with a referendum for an independent Kurdish state. It was to have been the beginning of a domino-style reshaping of the geopolitical map of the entire Middle East along the lines of US Army Col. Ralph Peters’ 2006 Armed Forces Journal, “Blood Borders: How a Better Middle East Would Look.”
Since the British and French carved up the oil-rich lands of the collapsing Ottoman Empire in the secret Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916 during the First World War, the ethnic peoples known as Kurds were divided, deliberately, between the borders of Iran, Iraq, Syria and of Turkey. To now create a single Kurdish state would destabilize the entire region and beyond. The issues among the various ethnic Kurds themselves are as well vast with differences in Kurd dialects sometimes being as vast as that between Englis
http://journal-neo.org/2017/11/04/moscow-outmaneuvers-washington-s-kurdistan-project/

http://journal-neo.org/2017/11/04/moscow-outmaneuvers-washington-s-kurdistan-project/
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#35
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

Perfidious Albion

Moscow Outmaneuvers Washington’s Kurdistan Project


For the moment it looks as if Russian three-dimensional geopolitical chess moves in the turbulent Middle East have thrown a giant monkey wrench into Washington plans to create an independent Kurdistan. In September the Kurdish population in Iraq voted apparently overwhelmingly for creation of an independent Kurdistan that would control some of the richest oil fields of Iraq in and around Kirkuk as well. Today, a month later, Massoud Barzani, the US and Israel-backed Kurd leader, is facing a major loss of powers from the Iraq Kurd Parliament. In the middle of the fast-changing developments—whose outcome is decisive to far more than the Middle East—is Russia and the Russian state-owned oil giant, Rosneft.
Contrary to the slick US and EU propaganda that has portrayed former President Massoud Barzani and his Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP) as champions of western-style democracy, Barzani is a clan warlord who has ruthlessly pursued ethnic cleansing against a Yazidi and Christian Assyrian minority in order to gain control of oil lands those peoples had historically occupied until 2014. The Barzani clan and his Peshmerga military arm were trained beginning the late 1960s by Israeli Mossad Lt Colonel Tzuri Sagi, initially to go against Saddam Hussein’s rule. Israeli ties to the Barzani clan have remained since.
Since that time the Massoud Barzani clan has built a dictatorial power in the Kurdish region of Iraq using assassination, corruption and since 2014, control of sales of Iraqi oil via Turkey. Such is Barzani’s mafia-power, despite the fact that his term as President of the Iraqi Kurdistan ended in 2015 and the Kurd regional parliament refused to renew it, he has ruled since without any legal basis by preventing the parliament from convening and formally ousting him. Massoud’s son controls the region’s security council and all all military and civilian intelligence.
Barzani, with open backing of Israel’s Netanyahu, despite major opposition from most of the world, went ahead with a referendum for an independent Kurdish state. It was to have been the beginning of a domino-style reshaping of the geopolitical map of the entire Middle East along the lines of US Army Col. Ralph Peters’ 2006 Armed Forces Journal, “Blood Borders: How a Better Middle East Would Look.”
Since the British and French carved up the oil-rich lands of the collapsing Ottoman Empire in the secret Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916 during the First World War, the ethnic peoples known as Kurds were divided, deliberately, between the borders of Iran, Iraq, Syria and of Turkey. To now create a single Kurdish state would destabilize the entire region and beyond. The issues among the various ethnic Kurds themselves are as well vast with differences in Kurd dialects sometimes being as vast as that between Englis
http://journal-neo.org/2017/11/04/moscow-outmaneuvers-washington-s-kurdistan-project/

http://journal-neo.org/2017/11/04/moscow-outmaneuvers-washington-s-kurdistan-project/

They have been outsmarting and out maneuvering The US. for a a while now.

Sen. Rand Paul sustained broken ribs in an attack that was more severe than first thought; it's unclear when he'll return to D.C.

Source: Washington Post
 
EagleSmack
#36
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Of course. Fireworks are dangerous.

Guns are FREEDOM!

Fireworks and bump stocks are banned in Massachusetts.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#37
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Fireworks and bump stocks are banned in Massachusetts.

And good books are banned in Boston.
 
EagleSmack
#38
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

And good books are banned in Boston.

No Happy Hour in Massachusetts... no metal mesh nets on basketball hoops in public parks.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#39
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

No Happy Hour in Massachusetts... no metal mesh nets on basketball hoops in public parks.

But they have a real good all-nude strip club in Webster.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#40
Texas gunman should not have been able to buy a firearm, but the Air Force failed to alert FBI to his violent past

https://www.washingtonpost.com/?wpis...ational&wpmk=1

several members of the same family were killed.

***********

Hear this on BBC today:

American solution to these mass murders is :..........GUNS(EVEN MORE) AND PRAYER.

After all this time and all these incidents of horror........simply y simply don't have the GUTS to do what is really necessary...........and prefer to remain a barbaric "sate". where mass killings of any variety are the order of the day and simply their "lifestyle" As are the candle light prayer vigils they hold to honor their increasing number of dead from gun incidents. Guns and Bibles. The fact that the shooter was killed by a gun carrying citizen......will only reinforce the policy of more guns is the answer. He probably will not be charged with Murder.and will be treated as a hero A mind twister to anyone but an American.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#41
SEN. RAND PAUL’S ATTACKER MAY FACE MORE SERIOUS CHARGES, DUE TO LIFE-THREATENING INJURIES
Sen. Rand Paul's Attacker May Face More Serious Charges, Due to Life-Threatening Injuries | The Daily Sheeple

Darn Trump hating nazis eh?
sneaky bunch
 
darkbeaver
Republican
#42
I think his attacker should get a metal.

Id like to punch the twit in the head myself, and maybe run the lawn mower over him as well.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#43
yeah well do it from the front right?
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#44
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

I think his attacker should get a metal.

Id like to punch the twit in the head myself, and maybe run the lawn mower over him as well.

That is the issue with violence.....it can be "contagious.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#45
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Texas gunman should not have been able to buy a firearm, but the Air Force failed to alert FBI to his violent past

https://www.washingtonpost.com/?wpis...ational&wpmk=1

several members of the same family were killed.

***********

Hear this on BBC today:

American solution to these mass murders is :..........GUNS(EVEN MORE) AND PRAYER.

After all this time and all these incidents of horror........simply y simply don't have the GUTS to do what is really necessary...........and prefer to remain a barbaric "sate". where mass killings of any variety are the order of the day and simply their "lifestyle" As are the candle light prayer vigils they hold to honor their increasing number of dead from gun incidents. Guns and Bibles. The fact that the shooter was killed by a gun carrying citizen......will only reinforce the policy of more guns is the answer. He probably will not be charged with Murder.and will be treated as a hero A mind twister to anyone but an American.

It's a waste of time to charge someone who will obviously be found not guilty for defense of a third.
 
tay
#46
As President Donald Trump derided the way federal courts had handled terrorism cases on Wednesday, federal prosecutors filed court documents illustrating the damage that some of his supporters could have inflicted in a terrorist attack they allegedly plotted against Muslim immigrants in Kansas.

Patrick Stein, Gavin Wright and Curtis Allen were arrested a little over a year ago in an FBI sting. The trio, allegedly part of a domestic terrorist group called “the Crusaders,” was charged with plotting a terrorist attack against Muslim immigrants for the day after the presidential election that they hoped would “wake people up.” They allegedly amassed a huge stockpile of weapons and prepared bombs they’d use in an attack targeting an apartment complex that housed Muslim immigrants.

“The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim,” Stein allegedly said during one meeting. “If you’re a Muslim I’m going to enjoy shooting you in the head.”

All three are awaiting trial. Last month, a federal judge ruled that one of the men who had requested bail was a “strong threat to society” and a “danger to the community” and should be kept in custody until trial.

An attorney for Wright said that the group “feared that then-President Obama would declare martial law if Donald Trump won the election” and that “massive social unrest would occur” no matter who won.

Federal prosecutors indicated in a court filing on Wednesday that the FBI’s Laboratory’s Explosives Unit had constructed and set off a 300-pound car bomb using fertilizer to show the damage that the bomb the men were allegedly building could have created.

Here’s the setup:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ushpmg00000313


 
Tecumsehsbones
#47
But. . . but. . . they're all democratic and loving and civilized! We know cuz they're white Christians!
 
DaSleeper
+1
#48
 
Tecumsehsbones
#49
All y'all Canadian lefties do understand, I hope, that there is a very high likelihood that all 26 of the people killed in Texass lived in gun-owning households, were Christians and at least medium fundamentalist, and voted for Trump or would have grown up to vote for somebody like him.

In other words, they were right-wing, gun-owning, Trump-voting Texans. The very people you spew hatred for day after day on this board.

So why aren't you happy they're dead? Especially since you can claim it's their own fault for supporting permissive gun control laws?
 
TenPenny
#50
More importantly, why did their God let them down?
 
Tecumsehsbones
#51
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

More importantly, why did their God let them down?

Are you addressing me? I'd say it's because their god is as fictional as Harry Potter, and equally likely to save them.

Now that I've answered your question, wanna answer mine?
 
TenPenny
#52
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Are you addressing me? I'd say it's because their god is as fictional as Harry Potter, and equally likely to save them.

Now that I've answered your question, wanna answer mine?



I didn't answer your question because t's not addressed to me, because none of it applies to me, I don't think any of those things, so it's not aimed at me at all.


"So why aren't you happy they're dead? Especially since you can claim it's their own fault for supporting permissive gun control laws?"
 
Tecumsehsbones
#53
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

I didn't answer your question because t's not addressed to me, because none of it applies to me, I don't think any of those things, so it's not aimed at me at all.

Fair answer. You're not a lefty by anyone's (excluding Nazis) standard. Just thought you might could speak up for 'em, seeing as how shy the ordinarily-quite-forward Canadian left is about answering.
 
Mowich
Conservative
#54
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

All y'all Canadian lefties do understand, I hope, that there is a very high likelihood that all 26 of the people killed in Texass lived in gun-owning households, were Christians and at least medium fundamentalist, and voted for Trump or would have grown up to vote for somebody like him.

In other words, they were right-wing, gun-owning, Trump-voting Texans. The very people you spew hatred for day after day on this board.

So why aren't you happy they're dead? Especially since you can claim it's their own fault for supporting permissive gun control laws?

Half of the dead are children including an unborn baby. Whether or not your comments on the adult dead are true, they did not deserve to die especially in a house of worship.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#55
No, Donald, It IS a Guns Situation

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2...ns%20Situation
 
Mowich
Conservative
#56
OB, here's an article you might find interesting.

www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/world/americas/mass-shootings-us-international
 
Hoid
#57
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

All y'all Canadian lefties do understand, I hope, that there is a very high likelihood that all 26 of the people killed in Texass lived in gun-owning households, were Christians and at least medium fundamentalist, and voted for Trump or would have grown up to vote for somebody like him.

In other words, they were right-wing, gun-owning, Trump-voting Texans. The very people you spew hatred for day after day on this board.

So why aren't you happy they're dead? Especially since you can claim it's their own fault for supporting permissive gun control laws?

Texas is not a very gun toting state.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#58
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Texas is not a very gun toting state.

Shirley, you jest!
 
Hoid
#59
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Shirley, you jest!

nope. there is a far better chance that they did not own guns.
https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-owners...ations-3325153
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#60
Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich View Post

OB, here's an article you might find interesting.

www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/world/americas/mass-shootings-us-international

Thanks Mowich.

Good article. and of course it makes sense.

from the item:

Quote:

Americans make up about 4.4 percent of the global population but own 42 percent of the world’s guns.

The only variable that can explain the high rate of mass shootings in America is its astronomical number of guns.


kinda states the obvious. Doesn't it??