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Curious Cdn
Conservative
#871
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

I was gonna say that I also have a nephew who has been a fireman in the Toronto area that I haven't seen in over 20 years
I just googled the Newmarket fire department with his name and...... hot damn........
The guy is deputy fire chief!

That's okay!

You just don't want to be the fire chief in Tonawanda, New York.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
-1
#872
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

taking 100 pounds of pot to Lesqueeky is the coals to Newcastle


That's all fine and dandy if you can get the Lasquesians to part with it!
 
Hoid
#873
pot is basically free there, and widely available
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#874
This week’s 338Canada projection: Is the NDP on the verge of collapse?

Quote:

September is upon us. Back to school is in full swing, football season and NHL training camps are soon getting under way, your favorite cafés are probably serving pumpkin spice lattés… and, with Canada’s 43rd federal general election on the horizon, you will probably get a visit or a phone call from your local candidates hoping to sway your vote their way.
Voting day is scheduled for Oct. 21, a full seven weeks from today. With 49 days and several debates to go, we present today the state of the race according to the available data.
Let’s recap the past week:
Early last week, the Angus Reid Institute unveiled its August federal numbers indicating that the Conservatives held a four-point lead over the Liberals. ARI had the Conservatives ahead by as much as 13 points last spring and 8 points in July.
On Saturday, a new poll by Léger published in Le Journal de Montréal showed a tied race nationally between the Liberals (34 per cent) and the Conservatives (33 per cent). Even though this is technically a statistical tie between the two main parties, it was the first time Léger measured the Liberals in first place since late last fall. Additionally, Léger placed the NDP as a distant third (tied with the Greens) with only 12 per cent of national support and a meager 7 per cent in Quebec.
Finally, EKOS released its latest federal numbers on the 338Canada Blog on Sunday. According to this poll, the Liberals have taken a national lead of four points over the Conservatives (37 to 33 per cent). The Liberal gains appear to be mostly at the NDP’s expense—EKOS measured NDP support at only 7 per cent nationally—the lowest the party has polled all year. As it was mentioned in this analysis, this specific figure may well have been an outlier, but abnormal data have seemed to only go one way for the NDP of late.
Consider the following graph. The coloured bars are the 338Canada popular vote projection confidence intervals and the black dots are the latest polls’ results:
When we calculate the weighted average of all the latest polls, we see that the Conservatives and Liberals are essentially tied at 34 per cent apiece. As we will see below, according to current ranges of numbers, a near-tie vote between the Liberals and Conservatives would give an edge to the Liberals in terms of seats.
The NDP slips to an average of 13 per cent. While we notice that EKOS may be somewhat off on its NDP figure, Léger (12 per cent) and Angus Reid (14 per cent) generally agree on where the NDP stands—almost seven points lower than its 2015 result.
The Green Party remains stable with an average of 10 per cent nationally. Maxime Bernier’s PPC stands at 2.9 per cent.
In Quebec, the Bloc québécois climbs to 20 per cent support (4.7 per cent nationally).
Seat-wise, the Liberals climb to an average of 165 seats, just 5 seats short of a majority. The Conservatives are not far behind with an average of 142 seats. Notice however how the confidence intervals overlap significantly:
Strong numbers for the Liberals in Canada’s two most populous provinces, Ontario and Quebec, partly explain why the LPC holds the advantage over the CPC despite polling similar levels of national support. For the Conservatives, polling at or above 60 per cent in Alberta may inflate their national figures, but it doesn’t win them any more seats (the CPC is projected ahead in all 34 Alberta seats).
For those wondering why the confidence intervals are so wide, the reasons are two-fold: 1) Polls do not agree on where major parties stand; just last week, we saw the Angus Reid Institute with a 4-point CPC lead, EKOS with a 4-point Liberal lead, and Léger somewhere in the middle; 2) The model accounts for the possibility of polls being wrong by a few points. The coloured bars’ extremes are the absolute worst—and best-case—scenarios or each party. The extremes are not as likely to occur as figures near the middle.

Hoid you should get out there and really canvass for the Green party, get those discouraged NDP votes.
 
Hoid
#875
in fact a weaker NDP means a stronger Green in a minority government.

things could not be any better at this point

it would be nice if the conservatives could make it a little closer
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+2 / -1
#876
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

This week’s 338Canada projection: Is the NDP on the verge of collapse?



Hoid you should get out there and really canvass for the Green party, get those discouraged NDP votes.


Better still just pay C.B.C. a few bucks to air a 10 minute collage of Justin's antics 4 times a day starting about Oct. 7. That should take care of every thing.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#877
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

in fact a weaker NDP means a stronger Green in a minority government.
things could not be any better at this point
it would be nice if the conservatives could make it a little closer

How is your Green party doing in Ont. and Que? Do they have a chance of taking the NDP vote?
 
petros
+1
#878
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

3.7 is still propaganda. It's nowhere near that low if you count the whole population like we do and every other developed country does.
.

Were did you get that half baked idea?
 
petros
+2
#879
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

3.7 is still propaganda. It's nowhere near that low if you count the whole population like we do and every other developed country does.
.

Where did you get that half baked idea?
 
petros
#880
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Oddly enough Lasquiti is getting expensive. I think too many rich view it as cheap vacation land. Funny part is that the welfare bums that have been there for 2 generations may end up getting taxed out of their slums.

Are they taxing weed?
 
Colpy
Conservative
+2
#881
Quote:

Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn 3.7 is still propaganda. It's nowhere near that low if you count the whole population like we do and every other developed country does.

You're not wrong.



But it is irrelevant. Many of the unemployed simply don't want to be employed.


I live in one of the most depressed areas of this country.......and I see "help wanted" ads all over the place for low level workers.


At this low an unemployment rate, the only people not working are the unemployable, or those that don't want to work.
 
Hoid
#882
many people can't afford low level jobs.

by the time they pay child care and transportation they end up owing money in order to work part time min wage jobs

the theory that the only people not working are people who don't want to work falls under the heading "Things I would like to believe are true"
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+3 / -1
#883
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

You're not wrong.



But it is irrelevant. Many of the unemployed simply don't want to be employed.


I live in one of the most depressed areas of this country.......and I see "help wanted" ads all over the place for low level workers.


At this low an unemployment rate, the only people not working are the unemployable, or those that don't want to work.


If their welfare was cut off would they all of a sudden be "employable"?
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+3
#884
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

many people can't afford low level jobs.
by the time they pay child care and transportation they end up owing money in order to work part time min wage jobs
the theory that the only people not working are people who don't want to work falls under the heading "Things I would like to believe are true"

They can be propped up by welfare, at least they would be trying
 
DaSleeper
+3
#885
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

many people can't afford low level jobs.

by the time they pay child care and transportation they end up owing money in order to work part time min wage jobs

the theory that the only people not working are people who don't want to work falls under the heading "Things I would like to believe are true"


And you must be unemployed or unemployable with all the time you spend on this forum.....
You and other low level trolls, who are not of retirement age......
 
Hoid
#886
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

If their welfare was cut off would they all of a sudden be "employable"?

so if they were in even tougher financial straights they would be able to take a job that costs them money to do

what a genius plan
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1 / -1
#887
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

so if they were in even tougher financial straights they would be able to take a job that costs them money to do

what a genius plan


Smart people generally find a way!
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+3
#888
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

so if they were in even tougher financial straights they would be able to take a job that costs them money to do

what a genius plan


Normally I would be floored if someone offered up that kind of remarkably stupid logic, but in the spirit of tolerance, I'll give you a pass
 
spilledthebeer
#889
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

You're not wrong.



But it is irrelevant. Many of the unemployed simply don't want to be employed.


I live in one of the most depressed areas of this country.......and I see "help wanted" ads all over the place for low level workers.


At this low an unemployment rate, the only people not working are the unemployable, or those that don't want to work.




Sorry Colpy....................................


that old PROPAGANDA CRAP about how there is a job for anybody who wants one............................


is just that - CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


There ARE NOT ENOUGH JOBS.............................


for everybody who honestly wants HONEST WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If you dont own a car and cannot show up for shift work................................


then you dont have a job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If your job involves PERMANENT NIGHT SHIFT.........................................


then you will burn out and quit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If the boss is demanding GOLD PLATED CREDENTIALS for menial crap...................................


then you wont have a job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


I recall seeing a job ad for somebody with FIVE YEARS EXPERIENCE......................................


ON A TWO YEAR OLD COMPUTER PROGRAM......................................


do the math on that NONSENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If the working conditions are truly CRAPPY.........................................


such as working for a financial group in a department that ought to have 4 workers...........................


and the boss is pinching pennies and bullying TWO workers to deal with the work of 4.....................................


then the position will NOT be filled for long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If the boss wants a college grad.........................................


but is not paying enough so that a kid can both live on the wage AND PAY student loans................................


then the job will not be filled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If the job requires that you move to some very small isolated town........................................


then the job may not be filled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!


If the job being advertised is merely being used for educational purposes by the boss........................


so boss can make a judgement regarding the quality of possible alternative employees.....................................


and the rate of pay he might have to offer..........................



OR GET AWAY WITH..........................................


then the job will not be filled..............................


because THERE IS NO JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If the company has a bad habit of neglecting to pay employees in full....................................


and of then changing its name and HIDING the supervisors who hired you.........................................


by moving them to other districts........................................



and then stone walling you by only letting you talk to ALTERNATIVE superiors.........................................


who dont know you............................................... ..............


and who dont see YOUR NAME on their new list of employees.................................


and thus do not understand why they should pay you anything...................................


then the company will get a reputation......................................


and then be unable to fill its job needs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If the company requires that you travel EXTREME DISTANCES on your own time..............................


and for MINIMAL TRAVEL EXPENSE offered........................................... ...



while you fulfill company staffing needs...................................


then the company will always have jobs on offer.................................


because of the extremely rapid turn over of employees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!


If the boss has a cousin or other relative in the old country...............................


and has denied to Canada Immigration office that ANY CDN can do the job as well as the relative...................................


and is putting pressure on Cdn immigration to let in the idiot relative with the FAKE SPECIAL SKILL....................................


then the job WILL NOT BE FILLED..........................................


because its NOT A JOB..........................................


its an immigration scam designed to get an UNSUITABLE relative into the country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


In our modern society..............................


any job that goes unfilled for a long time.................................


has a BIG BAG OF BULLSH+T attached to it some way or other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
 
spaminator
#890
LILLEY: Election race a dead heat as campaign gets set to start
Brian Lilley
Published:
September 7, 2019
Updated:
September 7, 2019 6:00 PM EDT
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau (Photos by The Canadian Press)
As we get set for the Governor General to pull the trigger and make the election campaign an “official” campaign, the latest poll shows the race is a dead heat between the Conservatives and the Liberals.
A poll of 2,094 randomly selected Canadians who took part in an online panel for Campaign Research shows the Conservatives sitting at 34% nationally and the Liberals at 34%. The NDP and Greens are each at 12% voter support and the People’s Party at 2%.
“I think it is possible either way,” pollster Nick Kouvalis told the Sun when asked if the Conservatives or Liberals could win the soon to be called election.
“I don’t know about government and who will control the confidence of the house but as far as the election goes the Conservatives can win.”
Kouvalis raised the issue of who controls the confidence of the House due to speculation the NDP, Greens and even the Bloc Quebecois would support a Liberal minority government to block the Conservatives even if they get the most votes.
And despite popping up in polling for past elections only not to deliver at the ballot box, Kouvalis said the Greens are a real factor this time.
“All the indicators point to the Greens finally having a breakthrough,” Kouvalis said.
The party has 31% of the voting public saying they will consider voting for them, that’s higher than the NDP and a problem for the Liberals.
In the country’s biggest province, Campaign Research has the Conservatives and Liberals tied at 36% support, that’s a tightening of the race compared to last month and vastly different from another poll, this one by Ekos research, claiming the Liberals have a 15 point lead in Ontario with 48% voter support.
“That’s just ridiculous,” Kouvalis said of the Ekos numbers for Ontario.
“I was definitely taken aback. I was interested in doing a large sample size poll after Labour Day. I have a lot of confidence in our numbers.”
Kouvalis said there are two factors he sees helping the Conservatives in Ontario, the recent report on SNC-Lavalin and the Ford government’s change in tone.
“I think that the Ford government was having some very chaotic times through April and May. They’ve made a lot of changes,” Kouvalis said.
“That combined with the Ethics Commissioner putting out a scathing report had to have some impact.”
These numbers show a dog fight from now until Oct. 21.
GOLDSTEIN: Why Trudeau should campaign against Trudeau
KINSELLA: In politics, silence is golden
Kouvalis points out that the Liberals and Conservatives both have room to grow their vote to the point of being able to win a majority government.
When asked which parties voters would consider, 42% said they would either vote for or consider voting for the Liberals, that number was 39% for the Conservatives. Depending on how votes are split a majority can be obtained with as little as 37% of the vote.
The good news for the Conservatives in this poll is that their support is the most committed. A full 20% say they will vote Conservative and not consider any other party, that figure is 14% for the Liberals.
As for the approval ratings of the various leaders, Green Party Leader Elizabeth May has a 38% approval rating from voters, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is at 32% approval, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer is at 30% and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh is at 22%.
The election is expected to be called on Sunday, Sept. 15. But the first debate, organized by Macleans and City TV is scheduled for Thursday, Sept. 12. At this point, Trudeau has refused to attend that debate while all other invited party leaders have accepted.
NUMBERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY
While Ontario is tied and will be the big battle ground for all the parties this election, the poll from Campaign Research shows quite the difference in party support depending on where you live.
The Liberals hold 42% support in Atlantic Canada compared to 26% for the Conservatives, the Greens are third at 21% and the NDP is at 9%. That is lower for the Liberals compared to the last election but the Conservatives and Greens are much higher.
In Quebec the Liberals sit at 37% support, the Conservatives at 20%. That would mean a slightly larger take of the popular vote for both parties if these numbers hold. The Greens are also in third place in Quebec with 12% support while the NDP has 9%.
Last election the NDP took 25% of the vote in Quebec.
The Liberals and Conservatives are tied at 41% in Manitoba with the NDP again falling to fourth place at 8% support and Greens at 10%. The Conservatives run the table in Saskatchewan and Alberta taking 55% and 58% support respectively.
British Columbia is where the race gets tight again.
The Conservatives have the lead from the Rockies to the coast at 34% voter support compared to 31% for the Liberals, the Greens are at 18% and the NDP at 15%.
The poll was conducted from September 3 to 5, 2019, through an online survey of 2,094 randomly selected Canadian adults who are members of Maru/Blue’s online panel. For comparison purposes, a probability sample of this size has an estimated margin of error (which measures sampling variability) of +/- 2.14%, 19 times out of 20.
http://torontosun.com/opinion/column...s-set-to-start
 
spilledthebeer
#891
Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

LILLEY: Election race a dead heat as campaign gets set to start
Brian Lilley
Published:
September 7, 2019
Updated:
September 7, 2019 6:00 PM EDT
Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau (Photos by The Canadian Press)
As we get set for the Governor General to pull the trigger and make the election campaign an “official” campaign, the latest poll shows the race is a dead heat between the Conservatives and the Liberals.
A poll of 2,094 randomly selected Canadians who took part in an online panel for Campaign Research shows the Conservatives sitting at 34% nationally and the Liberals at 34%. The NDP and Greens are each at 12% voter support and the People’s Party at 2%.
“I think it is possible either way,” pollster Nick Kouvalis told the Sun when asked if the Conservatives or Liberals could win the soon to be called election.
“I don’t know about government and who will control the confidence of the house but as far as the election goes the Conservatives can win.”
Kouvalis raised the issue of who controls the confidence of the House due to speculation the NDP, Greens and even the Bloc Quebecois would support a Liberal minority government to block the Conservatives even if they get the most votes.
And despite popping up in polling for past elections only not to deliver at the ballot box, Kouvalis said the Greens are a real factor this time.
“All the indicators point to the Greens finally having a breakthrough,” Kouvalis said.
The party has 31% of the voting public saying they will consider voting for them, that’s higher than the NDP and a problem for the Liberals.
In the country’s biggest province, Campaign Research has the Conservatives and Liberals tied at 36% support, that’s a tightening of the race compared to last month and vastly different from another poll, this one by Ekos research, claiming the Liberals have a 15 point lead in Ontario with 48% voter support.
“That’s just ridiculous,” Kouvalis said of the Ekos numbers for Ontario.
“I was definitely taken aback. I was interested in doing a large sample size poll after Labour Day. I have a lot of confidence in our numbers.”
Kouvalis said there are two factors he sees helping the Conservatives in Ontario, the recent report on SNC-Lavalin and the Ford government’s change in tone.
“I think that the Ford government was having some very chaotic times through April and May. They’ve made a lot of changes,” Kouvalis said.
“That combined with the Ethics Commissioner putting out a scathing report had to have some impact.”
These numbers show a dog fight from now until Oct. 21.
GOLDSTEIN: Why Trudeau should campaign against Trudeau
KINSELLA: In politics, silence is golden
Kouvalis points out that the Liberals and Conservatives both have room to grow their vote to the point of being able to win a majority government.
When asked which parties voters would consider, 42% said they would either vote for or consider voting for the Liberals, that number was 39% for the Conservatives. Depending on how votes are split a majority can be obtained with as little as 37% of the vote.
The good news for the Conservatives in this poll is that their support is the most committed. A full 20% say they will vote Conservative and not consider any other party, that figure is 14% for the Liberals.
As for the approval ratings of the various leaders, Green Party Leader Elizabeth May has a 38% approval rating from voters, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is at 32% approval, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer is at 30% and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh is at 22%.
The election is expected to be called on Sunday, Sept. 15. But the first debate, organized by Macleans and City TV is scheduled for Thursday, Sept. 12. At this point, Trudeau has refused to attend that debate while all other invited party leaders have accepted.
NUMBERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY
While Ontario is tied and will be the big battle ground for all the parties this election, the poll from Campaign Research shows quite the difference in party support depending on where you live.
The Liberals hold 42% support in Atlantic Canada compared to 26% for the Conservatives, the Greens are third at 21% and the NDP is at 9%. That is lower for the Liberals compared to the last election but the Conservatives and Greens are much higher.
In Quebec the Liberals sit at 37% support, the Conservatives at 20%. That would mean a slightly larger take of the popular vote for both parties if these numbers hold. The Greens are also in third place in Quebec with 12% support while the NDP has 9%.
Last election the NDP took 25% of the vote in Quebec.
The Liberals and Conservatives are tied at 41% in Manitoba with the NDP again falling to fourth place at 8% support and Greens at 10%. The Conservatives run the table in Saskatchewan and Alberta taking 55% and 58% support respectively.
British Columbia is where the race gets tight again.
The Conservatives have the lead from the Rockies to the coast at 34% voter support compared to 31% for the Liberals, the Greens are at 18% and the NDP at 15%.
The poll was conducted from September 3 to 5, 2019, through an online survey of 2,094 randomly selected Canadian adults who are members of Maru/Blue’s online panel. For comparison purposes, a probability sample of this size has an estimated margin of error (which measures sampling variability) of +/- 2.14%, 19 times out of 20.
http://torontosun.com/opinion/column...s-set-to-start






WE may conclude several things from the latest "polls"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


Firstly we see that some Cdns apparently LIKE BEING BRIBED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


AS of the beginning of September......................................


LIE-berals have made OVER TWELVE BILLION DOLLARS in new spending offers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes twelve billion dollars in NEW DEBT in a FEW SHORT WEEKS to be ADDED to the Twenty billion dollars in new debt contained



in the LIE-beral spring 2019 budget!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are Cdns REALLY THAT GULLIBLE???????????????????????????


Or are pollsters IN THE PAY of LIE-berals trying to PRETEND we are that gullible??????????????????????



Do Cdns NOT ASK how much LIE-berals will have to drive up the cost of their despised carbon tax SCAM.........................................



to PAY for all the grand promises??????????????????????????


This of course ASSUMES LIE-berals will actually TRY to honour their promises!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WE have seen in the past the REAL Value of a LIE-beral promise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



This all assumes that most LIE-beral promises are not just Stretch Goals...........................................


trotted out here today for the election and trashed tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


As for the polls offering "good news" for LIE-berals............................................ .


LIE-berals are spending SIX HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS TO BUY GOOD PRESS....................................


"from Cdn news media they trust"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


Six hundred million dollars from LIE-berals............................................ ..


AND MILLIONS MORE from Cdn civil service union HOG attack ads..........................................


plus those billions in deficit bribery........................................


and a HORDE of civil service union HOGS flooding every polling effort..............................


filling in all sorts of online surveys....................................


screaming their GREED from the roof tops........................................


while TRYING TO HIDE their STRIKE PLANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



and the BEST LIE-berals can rig up is to run even against Scheer??????????????????????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




And the Greenies are surging ahead.......................................


do LIE-berals DARE ASK how many FORMER LIE-beral supporters.......................................


are now thinking of voting Green??????????????????????????????????????????


LIE-beral and HOG strategists are tearing their hair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


PSAC- our federal union HOGS ARE ALREADY in a strike position now.............................


so do they strike and demonstrate to the public how completely they OWN LIE-berals??????????????????


Desperate LIE-berals can be driven into a better deal now when they NEED those HOG votes..........................


but LIE-berals will not wish to be seen SELLING us out to the HOGS..................................


so a strike would simply annoy the public and make LIE-berals look bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Or does PSAC WAIT till after the election.....................................


and maybe GET NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


Because a Conservative govt has FROZEN their wages??????????????????????????


EVEN WORSE for PSAC is the strong probability that many HOGS are DEFECTING to the GREENIES.............................


and LIE-berals WILL NOT wish to reward Hog unions i they cannot reliably supply votes for LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And what of our Ontari-owe teachers and support staff................................


they too are rapidly approaching a strike position.......................................... ......


do they want to publicly demonstrate THEIR GREED right before the federal election?????????????????


If Scheer wins federally then his provincial counterpart Ford will be EMBOLDENED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh my..................MORE HOGS with frozen wages at the provincial level if Scheer wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


One way or another.........................................


whichever party wins the 2019 federal election..............................


there is good reason to believe that Hog influence WILL BE REDUCED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And when that happens our elections will become MORE FAIR AND HONEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#892
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

WE may conclude several things from the latest "polls"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


Firstly we see that some Cdns apparently LIKE BEING BRIBED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


AS of the beginning of September......................................


LIE-berals have made OVER TWELVE BILLION DOLLARS in new spending offers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes twelve billion dollars in NEW DEBT in a FEW SHORT WEEKS to be ADDED to the Twenty billion dollars in new debt contained



in the LIE-beral spring 2019 budget!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Are Cdns REALLY THAT GULLIBLE???????????????????????????


Or are pollsters IN THE PAY of LIE-berals trying to PRETEND we are that gullible??????????????????????



Do Cdns NOT ASK how much LIE-berals will have to drive up the cost of their despised carbon tax SCAM.........................................



to PAY for all the grand promises??????????????????????????


This of course ASSUMES LIE-berals will actually TRY to honour their promises!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WE have seen in the past the REAL Value of a LIE-beral promise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



This all assumes that most LIE-beral promises are not just Stretch Goals...........................................


trotted out here today for the election and trashed tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


As for the polls offering "good news" for LIE-berals............................................ .


LIE-berals are spending SIX HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS TO BUY GOOD PRESS....................................


"from Cdn news media they trust"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


Six hundred million dollars from LIE-berals............................................ ..


AND MILLIONS MORE from Cdn civil service union HOG attack ads..........................................


plus those billions in deficit bribery........................................


and a HORDE of civil service union HOGS flooding every polling effort..............................


filling in all sorts of online surveys....................................


screaming their GREED from the roof tops........................................


while TRYING TO HIDE their STRIKE PLANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



and the BEST LIE-berals can rig up is to run even against Scheer??????????????????????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




And the Greenies are surging ahead.......................................


do LIE-berals DARE ASK how many FORMER LIE-beral supporters.......................................


are now thinking of voting Green??????????????????????????????????????????


LIE-beral and HOG strategists are tearing their hair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


PSAC- our federal union HOGS ARE ALREADY in a strike position now.............................


so do they strike and demonstrate to the public how completely they OWN LIE-berals??????????????????


Desperate LIE-berals can be driven into a better deal now when they NEED those HOG votes..........................


but LIE-berals will not wish to be seen SELLING us out to the HOGS..................................


so a strike would simply annoy the public and make LIE-berals look bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Or does PSAC WAIT till after the election.....................................


and maybe GET NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


Because a Conservative govt has FROZEN their wages??????????????????????????


EVEN WORSE for PSAC is the strong probability that many HOGS are DEFECTING to the GREENIES.............................


and LIE-berals WILL NOT wish to reward Hog unions i they cannot reliably supply votes for LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And what of our Ontari-owe teachers and support staff................................


they too are rapidly approaching a strike position.......................................... ......


do they want to publicly demonstrate THEIR GREED right before the federal election?????????????????


If Scheer wins federally then his provincial counterpart Ford will be EMBOLDENED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh my..................MORE HOGS with frozen wages at the provincial level if Scheer wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


One way or another.........................................


whichever party wins the 2019 federal election..............................


there is good reason to believe that Hog influence WILL BE REDUCED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And when that happens our elections will become MORE FAIR AND HONEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The teachers out here in LaLaLand are also preparing for a strike .I am daily listening to radio ads telling us that teachers are falling behind and it is unfair to the students , and this isn’t what they voted for when supporting the GreenDP .
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#893
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

WE may conclude several things from the latest "polls"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


Firstly we see that some Cdns apparently LIKE BEING BRIBED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


AS of the beginning of September......................................


LIE-berals have made OVER TWELVE BILLION DOLLARS in new spending offers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Shorten the screed! FFS
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
+2
#894
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

The teachers out here in LaLaLand are also preparing for a strike .I am daily listening to radio ads telling us that teachers are falling behind and it is unfair to the students , and this isn’t what they voted for when supporting the GreenDP .

BC teachers are only falling behind because other jurisdictions rollover and play dead at contract time. Check the math.$96000 for a teacher. And they only work about 9 months a year. Eveb being gererous and say they work 40 hours per weel it is over $60/hr. Plus bennies.
Education is another government service that has no need to be delivered by government employees.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
+1 / -1
#895
I wouldnt work for under 100K per year. I feel bad for teachers
 
petros
+2
#896
Pfffffffb
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1 / -1
#897
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Pfffffffb


He's obviously in a joking mood today. Just doesn't have the brains NOT to do it with people who have him pegged!
 
spilledthebeer
#898
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Shorten the screed! FFS


SHUT UP UNLESS YOU HAVE



SOMETHING USEFUL...........................


to say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!


Teachers screeching hysterically that "cuts hurt kids"...........................................


have all the charm and grace of MAFIA THUGS............................................. .


explaining to intimidated shop owners............................................ .


that their biz will BE MUCH BETTER......................................


if only the shop owners would pay the "protection money"............................................ .............


to the Mafia Thugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
-2
#899
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

shut up unless you have



something useful...........................


to say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


ffs


fcuk you asshole!
 
spaminator
#900
Liberals, Conservatives start election campaign virtually tied: Poll
Canadian Press
Published:
September 11, 2019
Updated:
September 11, 2019 5:10 PM EDT
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, left, shakes hand with Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer at the start of the Defi Pierre Lavoie, a 1000-km bicycle trek, Thursday, June 14, 2018 in Saguenay Que. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jacques Boissinot
OTTAWA — Justin Trudeau’s Liberals and Andrew Scheer’s Conservatives were running neck-and-neck during warm-up laps for the start of the 40-day federal election campaign, a new poll suggests.
The Leger poll — released hours before Prime Minister Justin Trudeau officially fired the starting gun Wednesday — suggests Jagmeet Singh’s NDP and Elizabeth May’s Greens were also in a dead heat, competing for a distant third place.
The poll put Conservative support at 35% nationally to the Liberals’ 34% — essentially a tie.
The NDP and Greens were also tied at 11%, with Maxime Bernier’s fledgling People’s Party bringing up the rear with just 3%.
The poll of 1,546 eligible voters selected from Leger’s online panel was conducted Sept. 6-9. Internet-based surveys cannot be assigned a margin of error because online polls are not considered random samples.
The poll suggests the Liberals were ahead in Ontario and Quebec, the two provinces that account for almost 60% of the 338 seats up for grabs, but the battle among the smaller parties could ultimately decide which of the two main parties wins the big prize.
In Ontario, support for the Liberals stood at 37%, compared to 31% for the Conservatives, 15% for both the Greens and NDP and 2% for the People’s Party.
In Quebec, the Liberals enjoyed the support of 37%, well ahead of the Conservatives at 22%, the Bloc Quebecois at 21%, the Greens at 10%, the NDP at 6% and the People’s Party at 5%.
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The Liberals are counting on making gains in the two largest provinces to compensate for losses elsewhere. But Leger executive vice-president Christian Bourque said Liberal hopes of cashing in on a possible NDP collapse in Quebec could be stymied by the Conservatives and the Bloc. Both were in the range needed to pick up seats in the province.
The Liberals were also leading comfortably in Atlantic Canada, with 53% support compared to 28% for the Conservatives, 9% for the NDP, 7% for the Greens and 3% for the People’s Party.
The Conservatives were the overwhelming favourites in Alberta and Manitoba/Saskatchewan, with 60% and 57% respectively — provinces where they already hold the vast majority of seats and have little to gain.
British Columbia was more of a toss-up, with the Conservatives at 36%, the Liberals at 33%, the NDP at 15%, the Greens at 10% and the People’s Party at 4%.
Twenty-six percent of respondents said they’re likely to change their minds before election day on Oct. 21, with supporters of smaller parties most likely to shift.
Sixty-eight percent of Liberals, 67% of Conservatives and 61% of Bloquistes said they’ve already made their final choices, compared to just 50% of Greens, 42% of New Democrats and 22% of People’s Party supporters.
The poll suggests the Liberals still have hope of picking up Green and NDP supporters, although that’s somewhat diminished by the fact that the Greens and NDP are now more likely to trade votes.
Among Green supporters, 31% picked the NDP as their second choice, 22% the Liberals and just 5% the Conservatives. Among New Democrat supporters, 33% picked the Greens as their second choice, the same percentage as picked the Liberals, with just 14% choosing the Conservatives.
The Conservatives were the preferred second choice only of the small band of People’s Party supporters (40%).
The national numbers suggest that on the eve of the election call, neither the Liberals nor the Conservatives were in position to win a majority of seats and that the Tories, with the least potential for second choice votes, face the hardest climb to get a majority.
Yet, 57% of respondents said they want a change in government and 56% said they want a majority government.
Twenty-five percent picked Trudeau as the best prime minister and 23% picked Scheer, with just 8% choosing May, 7% choosing Singh and 4% choosing Bernier.
Asked to choose the two most important issues that will determine which party they’ll support, 35% picked the level of income taxation. Another 35% chose job creation and economic growth and 30% chose fighting climate change. Public finances, debt and seniors issues followed with 20% each. Nineteen percent named fighting poverty as a top issue and 17% named immigration.
The poll also asked respondents to choose the best campaign slogan.
The Greens’ “Not left. Not right. Forward Together” was preferred by 22%, followed by 19% for the People’s Party’s “Strong and Free,” 16% for the Conservatives’ “It’s Time for You to Get Ahead,” 13% for the Liberals’ “Choose Forward” and 5% for the NDP’s “In it for you.”
http://torontosun.com/news/national/...ally-tied-poll
 

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