Trudeau 'welcomes' ethics probe of alleged PMO interference in SNC-Lavalin case


B00Mer
No Party Affiliation
+4
#1141
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#1142
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

1 , SNC Lavalin is from Quebec and donates to the Liberal Party .
2 , SNC Lavalin supply liberals with post retirement positions on its board to look the other way .




OH THAT IS NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


TWO VERY SOLID POINTS being made................................


in favour of ENSURING that Our idiot Boy Justin...................................


NEVER AGAIN sets foot inside our Parliament.......................................


EXCEPT IN THE VISITORS GALLERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!


I await THAT DAY with great anticipation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
spilledthebeer
#1143
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post


It is a truly wonderful image!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


TOTALLY TRUE about Our idiot Boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

 
petros
+2
#1144
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Is that of any great significance?

She is being charged for Obstruction of Justin.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#1145
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

She is being charged for Obstruction of Justin.


That will be the day!
 
petros
+2
#1146
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

OH YOU CLUELESS and Joyless LIE-beral Monkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Our idiot Boy ALREADY ANSWERED that question............................
when he told us "he would not apologize for defending good Cdn jobs"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
Not only did Our idiot Boy just tell us there is one law for ordinary Cdns.....................................
and another law for LIE-beral hacks and flacks and party pals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
He went on to give us a VERBAL SALMON ARM SALUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
Our idiot Boy "acknowledges the verdict of the Ethics Commissioner" .............................................
by which he means HE WILL IGNORE THE ETHICS COMMISSIONER when it suits him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can wear your Salmon Arm Salute with LIE-beral PRIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

If there is a criminal aspect to this, Trudeau can't apologize. It's an admission of guilt.

And for Christ's sakes quit the size 6 and double spacing then maybe people would read and quote you more often.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#1147
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

If there is a criminal aspect to this, Trudeau can't apologize. It's an admission of guilt.

And for Christ's sakes quit the size 6 and double spacing then maybe people would read and quote you more often.

No kidding , much of what he has to say makes sense , but it is rather tedious navigating his posts .
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#1148
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post


And for Christ's sakes quit the size 6 and double spacing then maybe people would read and quote you more often.


You're beating a dead horse, Pete, I've already told him umpteen times!
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#1149
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

No kidding , much of what he has to say makes sense , but it is rather tedious navigating his posts .


What in his mind is meant to impress us more, actually impresses us less!
 
harrylee
Free Thinker
+1
#1150
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

No kidding , much of what he has to say makes sense , but it is rather tedious navigating his posts .

I disagree....I look for his large type, at least then I know something intelligent is being posted. Plus, I'm old and the eyes ain't what they used to be.....lol
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#1151
Quote: Originally Posted by harrylee View Post

I disagree....I look for his large type, at least then I know something intelligent is being posted. Plus, I'm old and the eyes ain't what they used to be.....lol


Are people who shout at you any more intelligent than those who speak at a normal volume?
 
spilledthebeer
#1152
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

she is being charged for obstruction of justin.




hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


nice line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

 
spilledthebeer
#1153
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Are people who shout at you any more intelligent than those who speak at a normal volume?






SEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


Some people LIKE the large type!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But at this time VERY FEW people like the LIE-berals..........................................


OR their idiot cousins of NDP and Greenies....................


with both groups lacking the low guile and cunning...............


to be "proper" LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

 
spilledthebeer
#1154
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

You're beating a dead horse, Pete, I've already told him umpteen times!




HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are GETTING SO DESPERATE.....................................


that they THINK getting me to use smaller font.....................................


is some sort of MORAL VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals think that getting me to use smaller FONT..........................................


is an ELECTION WINNING STRATEGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HOW FRANTIC ARE THE LIE-berals anyway?????????????????????????????????????????
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#1155
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are GETTING SO DESPERATE.....................................


that they THINK getting me to use smaller font.....................................


is some sort of MORAL VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals think that getting me to use smaller FONT..........................................


is an ELECTION WINNING STRATEGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HOW FRANTIC ARE THE LIE-berals anyway?????????????????????????????????????????


There's one slight problem with your post...……………………………... I'M NOT A LIBERAL!
 
spilledthebeer
#1156
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

No kidding , much of what he has to say makes sense , but it is rather tedious navigating his posts .




The BIG QUESTION is this: "HOW MUCH JAIL TIME should Our IDIOT BOY FACE.................................


FOR OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


If a Lavalin CEO grabbed a gun and SHOT and killed.............................


a disgruntled share holder.........................................


would Our idiot Boy CLAIM the right to excuse the action??????????????????????????


In exchange for "saving good jobs in Quebec"????????????????????????



Bribery and bid rigging and deliberate MISS-USE OF CDN TAX DOLLARS.......................................


as a natural consequence of that PROVEN BID RIGGING.........................................


IS A CRIMINAL EVENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


IS Our idiot Boy ENTITLED to offer FORGIVENESS FOR SUCH CRIME?????????????????????????


Is Our idiot Boy some sort of modern day version.................................


of a Medieval POPE SELLING FORGIVENESS...............................


to his friends and allies in exchange for PERSONAL PROFIT.................................


in the form of ELECTION BRIBES PAID......................................


and Quebec VOTER SUPPORT BOUGHT????????????????????????????????????


Somewhere in our election law there will be various statutes............................


related to how any candidate standing for election........................


must be of good reputation and standing in the community!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


MEANING CRIMINALS AND THOSE ACCUSED OF CRIMES......................................


ARE NOT USUALLY ELIGIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


Our idiot BOY stands CONDEMNED by his own words!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Defiantly stating "he will not apologize for defending good Cdn jobs" ............................................


that happen to be held by people at Lavalin.............................


who VIOLATED OUR CRIMINAL CODES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!



Any decent lawyer could likely find LEGAL REASON............................................ ...



to BAR Our idiot Boy from running in an election.......................................... ........


until AFTER HIS STATUS with the Lavalin Bribery is sorted out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But just like a 16th century absolute Monarch..................................


Our idiot Boy has appointed an attorney general.................................


WILLING TO EXCUSE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
 
MHz
#1157
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

We badly need to hear two things from Mr. Trudeau...………..1. Why should S.N.C. Lavalin be given a pass on charges of corruption when all the other crooks in the country face prosecution. 2. Why should Lavalin's employees escape the results of charges to their employer, when everyone else in the country who is employed by a crook has to suffer the just deserts of an accomplice?

What other crooks, of any white collar crime, have been prosecuted in the last 10 years? JT said he was trying to save jobs. The new law would have allowed them to bid on contracts inside of Canada. Being blacklisted by the World Bank means no international companies would do business with SNC so they would go with a contractor that wasn't blacklisted. They were doomed to the scrap heap as soon as the WB charged then with bribery in 2011.
Now it surfaces that 20% owner in said crooked company is the Quebec Govt by playing the Stock market with pension funds. You cannot own that much stock and be naive about how they do business inside and outside of the country. Anybody want to put a number on the money involved from when it was at the top and how much it lost since 2011? Almost 4/5 and now there won't even be a charge in Canada.

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/quote/SNC.TO/history/
Date Open
Aug. 19, 2019 16.85
Aug. 01, 2015 41.96
Aug. 01, 2013 42.79
Aug. 01, 2011 54.13
Aug. 01, 2006 28.51
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#1158
The McLellan report would have ended the SNC affair before it began


She doesn't exonerate 'lil potato, but doesn't blame him either, just lays out how it should have been handled based on Harper era policy.
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
+1
#1159
Ethics committee to decide whether (Deja Vu) to dig deeper into SNC-Lavalin report

From: http://www.cjme.com/2019/08/20/ethic...avalin-report/

OTTAWA — Six Liberal MPs will be the ones to decide whether the federal ethics watchdog will speak publicly about his scathing report on how Prime Minister Justin Trudeau handled the SNC-Lavalin affair. (I wonder what they will decide? How soon they'll shut this down?)

Conservatives and New Democrats pushed for the emergency meeting of the House of Commons ethics committee to be held Wednesday in Ottawa, where MPs will debate whether to dig deeper into the scandal by inviting ethics commissioner Mario Dion to testify.

“Now we have facts,” said NDP MP Charlie Angus. “We should be able to ask the man who found those facts to explain them.”

The Liberals hold a majority on the 10-member committee (This sounds sooo familiar regarding this whole SNC Lavalin Fiasco). Voting in favour of the motion to invite Dion to appear would mean keeping the SNC-Lavalin controversy in the headlines as MPs gear up for the Oct. 21 election.

None of the six Liberals on the committee had agreed to comment by late Tuesday afternoon. (Surprise-surprise...)

The report, released last week, concluded that Trudeau violated the Conflict of Interest Act by improperly pressuring former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould to end criminal proceedings on corruption charges against the Montreal engineering giant....

.......Conservative MP Peter Kent said he hopes his Liberal colleagues, at the very least, support inviting Dion to debrief the committee on his report.

Mary Dawson, the previous ethics commissioner, spent two hours answering questions about her December 2017 report that found Trudeau had violated the Conflict of Interest Act when he and his family when on vacation to a private island in the Bahamas owned by the Aga Khan.

Kent said if the Liberals are concerned about the timing, they could have supported his efforts to investigate the scandal earlier this year.

At the time, Liberal MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith said it would be “premature” to begin such a probe before the justice committee wrapped up its study.

Erskine-Smith had also pointed out that Dion had begun investigating and that he reports directly to the ethics committee.

The committee should ensure he has what he needs to do his job, rather than do it for him, he argued at an April meeting.

Kent said he wants to ask Dion whether it is time the ethics commissioner’s office had stronger investigative powers.

In his report, Dion noted the confidentiality rules that govern cabinet documents and discussions prevented him from accessing everything he needed.

The Prime Minister’s Office had partially waived those obligations to allow Wilson-Raybould to testify before the justice committee earlier this year, but Ian Shugart, the clerk of the Privy Council, declined to expand the waiver for Dion. (The Impartial Privy Council Clerk? Say it isn't so!!)

The rest of the article is at the LINK above. The rest of the story is the Liberals stay in power we'll probably never know.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#1160
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

Ethics committee to decide whether (Deja Vu) to dig deeper into SNC-Lavalin report

From: http://www.cjme.com/2019/08/20/ethic...avalin-report/

OTTAWA — Six Liberal MPs will be the ones to decide whether the federal ethics watchdog will speak publicly about his scathing report on how Prime Minister Justin Trudeau handled the SNC-Lavalin affair. (I wonder what they will decide? How soon they'll shut this down?)

Conservatives and New Democrats pushed for the emergency meeting of the House of Commons ethics committee to be held Wednesday in Ottawa, where MPs will debate whether to dig deeper into the scandal by inviting ethics commissioner Mario Dion to testify.

“Now we have facts,” said NDP MP Charlie Angus. “We should be able to ask the man who found those facts to explain them.”

The Liberals hold a majority on the 10-member committee (This sounds sooo familiar regarding this whole SNC Lavalin Fiasco). Voting in favour of the motion to invite Dion to appear would mean keeping the SNC-Lavalin controversy in the headlines as MPs gear up for the Oct. 21 election.

None of the six Liberals on the committee had agreed to comment by late Tuesday afternoon. (Surprise-surprise...)

The report, released last week, concluded that Trudeau violated the Conflict of Interest Act by improperly pressuring former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould to end criminal proceedings on corruption charges against the Montreal engineering giant....

.......Conservative MP Peter Kent said he hopes his Liberal colleagues, at the very least, support inviting Dion to debrief the committee on his report.

Mary Dawson, the previous ethics commissioner, spent two hours answering questions about her December 2017 report that found Trudeau had violated the Conflict of Interest Act when he and his family when on vacation to a private island in the Bahamas owned by the Aga Khan.

Kent said if the Liberals are concerned about the timing, they could have supported his efforts to investigate the scandal earlier this year.

At the time, Liberal MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith said it would be “premature” to begin such a probe before the justice committee wrapped up its study.

Erskine-Smith had also pointed out that Dion had begun investigating and that he reports directly to the ethics committee.

The committee should ensure he has what he needs to do his job, rather than do it for him, he argued at an April meeting.

Kent said he wants to ask Dion whether it is time the ethics commissioner’s office had stronger investigative powers.

In his report, Dion noted the confidentiality rules that govern cabinet documents and discussions prevented him from accessing everything he needed.

The Prime Minister’s Office had partially waived those obligations to allow Wilson-Raybould to testify before the justice committee earlier this year, but Ian Shugart, the clerk of the Privy Council, declined to expand the waiver for Dion. (The Impartial Privy Council Clerk? Say it isn't so!!)

The rest of the article is at the LINK above. The rest of the story is the Liberals stay in power we'll probably never know.

I remember a time when if there was a hint of a scandal the member stepped aside until his name was cleared . That no longer is the case .
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#1161
You'll know he's serious when he apologizes to the ethics probe "on behalf of Canada."
 
DaSleeper
+1
#1162
That would be the same as Trump admitting he's wrong on anything...................
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#1163
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

That would be the same as Trump admitting he's wrong on anything...................


How do we know that when he hasn't been wrong yet?
 
DaSleeper
#1164
There are two types of T D S


Trump derangement syndrome
And
Trump defender syndrome
 
petros
+1
#1165
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

The McLellan report would have ended the SNC affair before it began
She doesn't exonerate 'lil potato, but doesn't blame him either, just lays out how it should have been handled based on Harper era policy.

Oh good Lord, they dragged that old hag out and gave her a new broom?

Where is Ellie May to pick her post Liberal Party career to pieces?

I'm surprised she isn't growing pot with Snoop Dogg
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#1166
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

That would be the same as Trump admitting he's wrong on anything...................

Are you kidding? Trudeaubama will apologize for a rainy day "on behalf of Canada."
 
petros
+2
#1167
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

You'll know he's serious when he apologizes to the ethics probe "on behalf of Canada."

Which still isn't an admission of guilt if there is a criminal investigation as it is ambiguous and shifts blame to Canadians as a whole.
 
Hoid
#1168
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

I remember a time when if there was a hint of a scandal the member stepped aside until his name was cleared . That no longer is the case .

Harper remained in office after being found in contempt of parliament
 
spilledthebeer
#1169
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

What other crooks, of any white collar crime, have been prosecuted in the last 10 years? JT said he was trying to save jobs. The new law would have allowed them to bid on contracts inside of Canada. Being blacklisted by the World Bank means no international companies would do business with SNC so they would go with a contractor that wasn't blacklisted. They were doomed to the scrap heap as soon as the WB charged then with bribery in 2011.
Now it surfaces that 20% owner in said crooked company is the Quebec Govt by playing the Stock market with pension funds. You cannot own that much stock and be naive about how they do business inside and outside of the country. Anybody want to put a number on the money involved from when it was at the top and how much it lost since 2011? Almost 4/5 and now there won't even be a charge in Canada.

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/quote/SNC.TO/history/
Date Open
Aug. 19, 2019 16.85
Aug. 01, 2015 41.96
Aug. 01, 2013 42.79
Aug. 01, 2011 54.13
Aug. 01, 2006 28.51










POOR STUPID MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


He has ONLY NOW DISCOVERED.......................................


that LIE-berals HAVE A LONG HISTORY...........................................


of CODDLING WHITE COLLAR CRIMINALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


It all reminds me of the old joke about Sharks and lawyers...............................


question: why dont Sharks eat lawyers?????


Answer: professional courtesy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!



One has only to look back at the LIES that LIE-berals told about CONVICTED...........................


FRAUD ARTIST Conrad Black..................................


to recognize that Harper is the MOST LIED ABOUT politician in Cdn history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals were taking a LOT OF HEAT.............................................. ..............


and losing out to Stephen Harper............................................ .


because of the THREE BILLION DOLLAR


LIE-beral ADSCAM THEFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So LIE-berals TRIED TO LIE their way out of trouble....................................


first with the alleged "Harper Hidden Agenda" that NEVER APPEARED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And TRIED to blame Harper for letting Conrad Black "take up Cdn citizenship"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


And of course LIE-beral LOVING LIARS were IGNORING THE TRUTH...............................


that Black HAD BEEN BORN CDN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That Pierre Trudope had banned Cdns from accepting British knighthoods and such.........................................


and that Britain had offered Black a LORDSHIP....................................


as a result of his highly profitable newspaper activities.......................................


and IT WAS LIE-beral CHRETIEN......................................


that arranged the deal............................................


so Black could drop Cdn citizenship and CLAIM his British Lordship.......................................... ......


AND THEN RECLAIM HIS CDN Citizenship...............................


as Lord Black of Crossharbour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And of course LIE-berals then WHINED AND LIED AGAIN.........................................


that Harper had broken CDN IMMIGRATION LAW....................................


by letting the BRITISH CRIMINAL back into Canada.............................


after he served his Yankee jail time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In a FINAL DESPERATE BID to smear Harper............................


LIE-berals then demanded to know why Black had NOT BEEN PROSECUTED FOR ANYTHING in Canada........................



and of course that dirt falls ONTO WYNNE-BAG ONTARI-OWE LIE-BERALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


Various Toronto newspapers RAN PHOTOS of Black and his chauffeur.........................................


removing boxes full of company records...............................


from Blacks Toronto office one quiet Sunday morning........................................... .........


IN SPITE OFF LIE-beral legal instructions NOT to destroy or hide company records!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In SPITE of this blatant THEFT and destruction of possible EVIDENCE in a fraud case.............................................


Black was never charged with ANY OFFENSE..............................


by Cdn LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


But they DID LIE HARD..............................


in an effort to blame all the CRAP on Harper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
 
spilledthebeer
#1170
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Which still isn't an admission of guilt if there is a criminal investigation as it is ambiguous and shifts blame to Canadians as a whole.




Blame for Cdns as a WHOLE?????????????????????????????????????????


Apparently YOU ARE A `HOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


of a nasty sort for drawing such a conclusion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!