Canada-China Crisis


Ron in Regina
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Don't see why Justin is being so provocative..........as opposed to intelligently diplomatic.

This tit for tat BS is just childish.

Intelligent diplomacy wouldn't have gotten us into this mess in the first place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwsn3twqwZ0
 
Danbones
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#152
UNtruedie has sold all our gold. All Canada is now is a bedroom community for anyone with actual (CROOKED) money.
 
Danbones
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#153
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

Intelligent diplomacy wouldn't have gotten us into this mess in the first place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwsn3twqwZ0

So that's why so many here were trying to claim o'leary was driving that boat...he is telling the truth about something.
 
spilledthebeer
#154
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

Intelligent diplomacy wouldn't have gotten us into this mess in the first place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwsn3twqwZ0




TRUE DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Diplomacy HAS NEVER WORKED with Soviet asshats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the Beijing Butchers are the MOST CUNNING of Soviets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Red China has flourished when other Soviet nations FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And its not that Beijing Butchers are that much smarter than Our idiot Boy..................................


its just that Our idiot Boy Justin WANTS THE SOVIETS TO WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !








Here is an article illustrating the HUGE economic mess that LIE-berals have made of international trade. The article illustrates that trade and job issues can not be sorted out by giving control over to a committee made up of LIE-beral loons such as Our idiot Boy Justin and a cabal of third world despots from places like China, Russia and Iran! With some comments of my own in brackets):

GUEST COLUMN: Trump, trade and the China syndrome
Special to Postmedia Network

Published: December 29, 2017. Updated: December 29, 2017 6:00 PM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists

David T. Jones, Special to Postmedia Network. For centuries there was no question of trade being for “mutual benefit”.

Rather, states sought colonies, essentially for exploitation, to extract useful material from at low prices, while dumping excess industrial products manufactured in the “mother country” at high cost.

Ostensibly, economic theory eventually moved on to “mutual benefit” with the emphasis on “comparative advantage”, wherein each country provides the products it produces most efficiently and a trade balance results.

This theory falters when countries with effectively nothing worthy of trade end up borrowing from those countries who still push products upon them. The resulting debt loads have economy-distorting consequences for both borrowers and lenders.

(Much of our current trade problem is related to credit. In a gold based economy- meaning were your wealth is measured in gold coins and your spending is limited by how many coins you have; and prices are regulated as well since the seller may choose to accept fewer coins- on the grounds that a cheap sale is better than no sale - if you are poor. But all these logica; mechanisms that used to regulate sales and trade are GONE! Swept away in a tide of paper money and easy credit.)

(After WW2, western govts chose to end the “gold standard”- the traditional measurement of wealth- in large part because of all the looting and destruction that occurred during the war- staggering sums of gold and art and all manner of stuff was stolen or lost.)

(Going off that gold standard allowed govt to get things running again while police sifted through various claims for compensation and ownership that are still going on 70 years later- with various art galleries arguing over who owns what. Problem is the gold standard is gone and it has not been replaced with anything logical - there is no longer any real control over trade and deficits. This permits bankrupt Greeks to hide the scale of their bankruptcy. And it allows Chinese and other third world countries to manipulate currency on a grand scale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

One classic approach for a country developing its industry and economy is to put high tariffs on imported goods. Theoretically, once these industries are strong enough to “stand on their own”, the tariffs can be reduced or eliminated.

(And the people of some countries consider it a Patriotic duty to buy only locally made products and such people may face local backlash if they import products their neighbours see as unpatriotic and this unofficial economic policy meddles with trade results!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Of course, that approach reduces profits of the now powerful manufacturers, who see no interest in enhancing competition. For a generation following World War II, the U.S. had no real trade competition. It was the global powerhouse for manufacturing efficiency and technological innovation.

U.S. products, particularly automobiles, supported a vast U.S. middle class in which an auto worker could count on a well-paid, lifetime job. The U.S. ran trade surpluses and was the great global lender. Goods imported from other countries were regarded as cheap and shoddy.

But then the U.S. lost its “mojo.” Competitors, most notably Japan, were able to take advantage of new factories, using new technology and cheap labor. They challenged simultaneous U.S. technological failures, high prices, and social arrogance. U.S. cars were suddenly inferior.

The media were besieged with articles and studies suggesting Japan was about to lead the world in everything. Japan obliged this fear by purchasing a wide array of highly visible U.S. properties.

(The reality is that Japan was accumulating a mass of Yankee dollars and needed to do something with this cash- and what better idea than to re-invest that cash in United States - with its stable govt and judicial respect for investors?? Japan took paper money that can and does fluctuate in value- and one has only to look at the vast crap game/floating casino that is the stock market to understand how volatile mere paper is- and turned their dollars into hard assets- such as real estate- which happens to be a product in ever shorter supply and ever increasing value!!!!!!!!!)

U.S. government trade efforts focused on thwarting Japan, and in an ancillary manner Mexico, whose low labor prices were (supposedly) producing a “vast sucking sound,” in Ross Perot’s words, pulling U.S. jobs south of the Rio Grande.

(Yes- that “vast sucking sound” was heard here in Canada as well- with the LIE-beral Chretien govt presiding over a debauched Cdn economy where our dollar hit $63 cents U.S. A combination of low Mexican wages and insane LIE-beral vote buying nearly bankrupted Canada! Only major tax increases by LIE-berals and serious cuts to federal fund transfers to the provinces reversed the flow of red ink!)

(And later, the Conservative govt of Harper held the line on federal wage increases for civil service Hogs! Frugality is a good thing- too bad LIE-berals despise it and must literally have guns put to their heads to make them save a penny! Chretien LIE-berals ran on a promise to kill NAFTA and then chickened out after winning the election- the economic reality of dead NAFTA costs would be too high!!!!!!!)

But while America was focused on Japan and Mexico, China, quietly and efficiently “ate our lunch”.

China now has a massive trade surplus driven by manufacturing efficiency and currency manipulation.

(Yes- that paper money is wonderful stuff- you can make it worth whatever you want- especially in a CLOSED economic system like China where foreigners do NOT get to see the books! Its even easier to manipulate such paper when local Chinese govt gets to decide what products MAY be offered for sale to the local people! This is in sharp contrast to the Cdn experience where our dollar went from that nasty $63 cents over to $1.05 U.S. and took a PILE of jobs away as Cdn goods began to cost to much!)

His country arguably now the factory for the world, Chinese leader Xi Jinping recently announced a “Made in China 2025” policy described as “involving local content requirements and the elimination of foreign suppliers.”

(So xenophobic Chinese are now implementing a “made in China” program that makes the Trump model look open and inclusive! As I mentioned - there are govts out there that “encourage” buying local products by various SHADY means!! And yet Our idiot Boy Justin thinks he can safely destroy NAFTA with his feminist/native rights blather and then make up the economic difference with Chinese business? HAHAHAHAHA!!!)

For the U.S., the past 20 years have seen the loss of two million manufacturing jobs.

(Automation is the real killer of most of these jobs. Robots are increasingly commonplace even in third world pest holes- its all about speed and efficiency and robots don’t get tired or sick or forget details. Reality is there are very few jobs to recover-especially in the automotive business which Trump is mainly focussed on. In addition -thanks to huge competition our vehicles are more reliable and longer lasting than ever before- meaning we buy new ones less often!)

Plus, growing frustration expressed by displaced workers that trade agreements reducing costs for manufacturing imports have cost them their jobs, for which “retraining”, or McJobs, are poor substitutes.

(LIE-berals keep assuring us our economy is “booming” but desperate LIE-berals do NOT want to tell us that the only good full time jobs out there are for govt employees- with the rest of us stuck in those McJobs and struggling financially! Cdn biz is cutting costs by killing good full time work and replacing it with part time and short term crap work. This trend will only increase as LIE-berals bomb business with their electricity price gouging and minimum wage garbage! The ugly truth is we Cdns cannot produce enough gravy to satisfy the civil service Hogs that LIE-berals rely on to keep them in power! It is LIE-beral gravy traded for Hog votes- and SCREW the general public!)

Hence, U.S. President Donald Trump’s urge to eliminate or reject trade agreements such as the Trans Pacific Partnership and call into question agreements such as NAFTA with Canada and Mexico

(Trump has VALID concerns over NAFTA- and he is using NAFTA to push LIE-beral Cdns to get MORE SERIOUS about national security and Muslim terror!! In additiob Trump is using NAFTA to push Mexico to tighten its border!! There is no reason for Mexico to IGNORE thousands of illegals from places like Guatemala and Nicaragua trekking through Mexican territory to literally invade United States!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(IN addition a tighter border would reduce the amount of drug and gun smuggling that is going on and Mexicans suffer even more from gang violence than Yankees do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Trump’s claim, which resonates massively with voters, if not economists, is that the U.S. has been outsmarted and out-negotiated in these agreements.

(Western govts decided after WW2- that breaking down trade barriers would promote peace as countries that do lots of business are presumed to be unlikely to fight each other. This concept works with Europeans but it clearly does not work with third world nations in Middle East and in Asia! It is China that is happily stirring the pot in blood soaked Darfur/South Sudan as they pursue oil and natural gas contracts. It is Russians and Chinese who happily sell weapons to Iran, North Korea and Syria and it is bankrupt western govts that get to deal with the swarming millions of refugees- many of whom represent national security risks!)

China is a tougher problem, especially since Washington is desperately attempting to induce Beijing to castrate North Korea’s nuclear program.

Perhaps, while it is currently a rudimentary idea, a coordinated U.S./European Union, World Trade Organization action might secure better Chinese adherence to WTO rules.

(IN other words- when Trump called out NATO “slackers” especially including Canada- he was on the right track! A united front - economically AND militarily can achieve better results than a few isolated individuals! And a firm commitment to greater economic cooperation between like minded western countries can balance out influence from dictators and bullies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Too bad Our idiot boy Justin is so bigoted against Yankees he would rather see NAFTA die than agree with Yankees on ANYTHING! Our idiot Boy is deliberately hurting NAFTA by ignoring very real Yankee fears that Cdn national security is so sloppy that Yankees risk importing Muslim terrorists along with their Cdn dairy and softwood lumber!)

(LIE-beral policy is running in circles as usual- they shun trade with the Yankee democracy and seek out trade with Chinese dictators! But what can we expect form Our idiot Boy- who holds his fathers vile values! After all it was Pierre Trudope who heaped fawning praise on Chinese Chairman Mao “for his genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows” just so he could cement his power over China!)

Jones is a retired U.S. State Department senior foreign service career officer. A version of this column first appeared in The Epoch Times
 
Ocean Breeze
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#155
B.C. politician breaks silence: China detained me, is interfering ‘in our democracy’

https://globalnews.ca/news/6228973/b..._campaign=2019
 
Serryah
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#156
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

B.C. politician breaks silence: China detained me, is interfering ‘in our democracy’

https://globalnews.ca/news/6228973/b..._campaign=2019


It's no shock - or it should be - to anyone with half a brain.


To be honest, powerful countries undermining other countries has been a thing sine humans became isolated gathering communities.


Now though it's all just deadlier.


And twisted.


Also, Fuk China.
 
spilledthebeer
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#157
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

It's no shock - or it should be - to anyone with half a brain.


To be honest, powerful countries undermining other countries has been a thing sine humans became isolated gathering communities.


Now though it's all just deadlier.


And twisted.


Also, Fuk China.




OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


GOOD POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Giving credit where it is DUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Beijing Butchers ARE A DANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We should OPPOSE that Beijing bullying very strongly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WE should offer BOTH a STRONG FRONT and a fair hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The people of Hong Kong have graphically PROVEN with their courage and determination.........................


that Chinese DO UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE DEMOCRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Trump is ON THE RIGHT TRACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yankee trade with Hong Kong MUST BE DEPENDENT on Beijing giving Hong Kong a FAIR DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy Justin and his Loser LIE-berals ARE ON THE WRONG TRACK with all things China related!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I have NO INTEREST in participating in WW3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But SURRENDER to the Beijing Butchers as Our idiot Boy intends...............................


is TOTAL MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy MUST FOLLOW the lead of ALL OUR NATO ALLIES...............................


and SHUN Huawei 5G technology!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!


Huawei 5G technology is HOPELESSLY RIDDLED with MALWARE created by............................


and intended FOR THE USE OF RED CHINESE SPIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NO NEED to take Trumps word for this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just follow the British and French lead on this since we Cdns LACK......................


that ability to break down the hidden RED CHINESE MALWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
 
pgs
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#158
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


GOOD POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Giving credit where it is DUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Beijing Butchers ARE A DANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We should OPPOSE that Beijing bullying very strongly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WE should offer BOTH a STRONG FRONT and a fair hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The people of Hong Kong have graphically PROVEN with their courage and determination.........................


that Chinese DO UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE DEMOCRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Trump is ON THE RIGHT TRACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yankee trade with Hong Kong MUST BE DEPENDENT on Beijing giving Hong Kong a FAIR DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy Justin and his Loser LIE-berals ARE ON THE WRONG TRACK with all things China related!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I have NO INTEREST in participating in WW3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But SURRENDER to the Beijing Butchers as Our idiot Boy intends...............................


is TOTAL MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy MUST FOLLOW the lead of ALL OUR NATO ALLIES...............................


and SHUN Huawei 5G technology!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!


Huawei 5G technology is HOPELESSLY RIDDLED with MALWARE created by............................


and intended FOR THE USE OF RED CHINESE SPIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


NO NEED to take Trumps word for this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just follow the British and French lead on this since we Cdns LACK......................


that ability to break down the hidden RED CHINESE MALWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Or even the Kiwis or Aussies .
 
spilledthebeer
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#159
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Or even the Kiwis or Aussies .




Australia and New Zealand ARE ALREADY IN TURMOIL......................


over Red Chinese influence in those countries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


People in the land down under are way beyond MERE worries about HUAWEI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider:::::


Here is an article illustrating how Chinese agents and business people are infiltrating the west - with the support of people like Our idiot Boy Justin! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Australia And New Zealand Are Ground Zero For Chinese Influence

October 2, 2018,3:28 PM ET

Heard on All Things Considered

Rob Schmitz, Twitter

China has had a profound economic and political impact in Australia and New Zealand.

From a hill overlooking Canberra, Australia's landlocked capital, Clive Hamilton points to the National Carillon, a bell tower that happens to be striking noon, then to a massive glass and concrete monolith.

"That's where ASIO lives," he says, using the common shorthand for Australia's intelligence agency, the Australian Security Intelligence Organization.

He then points out Australia's federal police building and to a compound in the middle, where China built its embassy.

"They picked that spot, and they have a lot of clout, they have a vast compound, and they kind of get what they want around here," he says.

When Hamilton, a professor at Charles Sturt University, first tried to publish his new book, Silent Invasion: China's Influence in Australia, the fear of China's Communist Party crept in, he says. Hamilton's original publisher, Allen and Unwin, informed him last November that it was cancelling the book's publication because it feared legal action from what it called "Beijing's agents of influence."

"I was shocked," remembers Hamilton. "I felt betrayed. We knew this was a difficult subject. We knew that Beijing has some powerful friends in Australia. We knew that the Chinese government would be highly critical of the book and of me. Of course, it was great comfort to have a really good, solid publisher behind me, and all of a sudden I was left out there on the battlefield, looking over my shoulder, saying, 'Where is my support?' "

(And no doubt the same sort of reluctance would overcome many Cdn publishers speaking against China! Chinse dictators CAN order their citizens to work in any way desired for govt benefit but western govts are subject to public will and MONEY TALKS LOUDEST to western govts! And China has a LOT of money to flash around these days!)

The original publisher of Clive Hamilton's book detailing Chinese influence in Australia canceled publication for fear of legal threats.

"It's a massive red flag," says Hamilton. "And if Australia capitulates on this question, in other words, no book seriously critical of [the] Chinese Communist Party will be published in Australia. I mean, this essentially means we've sacrificed our democratic freedoms."

(Yes- I would say that moral surrender is definitely looming on the Oz horizon!)

China's rise under the Communist Party has had a profound impact on Australia. The country is Australia's biggest trading partner by a long shot, accounting for nearly a quarter of Australia's trade. China's demand for commodities like iron ore in the early 2000s fueled a mining boom in Australia that created jobs and steadily pushed up wages. Later, as China's urban consumer class grew, young professionals from Shanghai and Beijing turned to Australian steak, milk and wine. Nearly a third of Australian exports now head to China.

Wealthy visitors from China frequently travel to Australia as tourists or to buy property, leading to a historic rise in home values along the country's coasts.

(OH dear- is the Oz housing industry suffering he same sort of predatory housing inflation as we have seen in Vancouver as the result of Chinese “investors” - who are too often laundering DIRTY MONEY?)

But public intellectuals like Hamilton, and politicians, are beginning to question whether these economic benefits have come at too steep a price. Another Australian publisher eventually released Hamilton's book. But the impact a powerful foreign autocracy had on his work, inside his own supposedly free and democratic home country, left him shaken. It was a reminder, says Hamilton, of how deeply China's Communist Party has infiltrated Australian society.

(IN a related theme- it is why Russia under Putin has begun assassinating loud critics of the Putin regime! Sanctions against Russia have bitten deep enough that Putin has little left to lose from being exposed- in the west- as a killer of protestors to his vicious and predatory regime!)

Silent Invasion identifies more than 40 former and current Australian politicians who he says are doing the bidding of China's government, many unwittingly. Several politicians have denied Hamilton's claims.

(An astute observer of the Cdn political scene will recognize that Our idiot Boy Justin should also be listed as a Chinese Flunky! After all- the ENTIRE Trudeau clan is very comfortable with Soviet despots! Papa Pierre publicly praised “the genius of Chairman Mao in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows” during the Great Leap Forward economic plan!)

(Our idiot Boy himself told us “he admired the way the Chinese get things done”! Apparently a reference to the happy situation of Chinese leaders who simply issue orders to make things happen- WITHOUT the bother of all that noise and nuisance in parliamentary question period!)

(And idiot brother Sacha Trudeau has collaborated with Iranian Imams to make anti Yankee and anti Israel propaganda films! And since all the fuss over Huawei is about that company collaborating with Iran against United Nations sanctions- we really need to ask WHICH SIDE the Trudeau clan is on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And all the Trudeau`s list Soviet style, bloody handed Cuban dictator Castro as a CLOSE family friend! With that Sap Sacha publicly claiming that Castro the dictator was a better, braver leader than any merely ELRCTED South American leader!)

Hamilton says China's Communist Party has infiltrated Chinese-Australian associations devoted to students and scholars, writers and religious activities. "From taking over Chinese associations, buying political influence, promoting Beijing-loyal people into elected political positions, buying influence in universities by sponsoring think tanks, cyber-intrusion operations, you name it, they're doing it," he says.

(Yes- and just like in Canada- LIE-berals are SCORNING such ugly reality!)

But Australia is beginning to fight back. Last December, former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull announced Australia's biggest overhaul in espionage and intelligence laws in decades, after a senator accepted illegal donations from a Chinese businessman with close ties to China's Communist Party.

(Has Canada managed to avoid sinking that low- or is it that we simply have not yet caught any LIE-berals in such dirty deeds just yet? One has to wonder how LIE-beral Atwal Grewal got himself so deeply in debt to gambling houses with out anybody noticing for well over a year!)

"Foreign powers are making unprecedented and increasingly sophisticated attempts to influence the political process both here and abroad," said P.M. Turnbull, announcing the bill. New laws, he said, "will protect our way of life, they will protect and strengthen our democracy and they will ensure that Australians make decisions based on the wishes of Australians."

(Oh we could wish that Cdns get the same opportunity to make their own choices in an atmosphere free of foreign bribery and LIE-beral Fake News!)

The new package of laws, which Australia's Parliament passed in June, will require anyone in Australia working on behalf of a foreign power to declare that connection to the government. But in the case of Chinese citizens, state connections can be tricky to gauge.

(Actually it is not so hard for a cynic to gauge the political activities of a Chinese citizen since one of the rules which regulate the creation of Chinese corporations is the requirement that they will- whenever asked- immediately conform to the needs and demands of Chinese Red Army agents!)

An overseas Communist Party's propaganda wing crushed our democratic newspaper here in New Zealand.

"China's different in scale and it's different also in that it can integrate the private sector, education, civil society — all arms, if you like — of the state and the community with the objectives of the Chinese Communist Party," says Rory Medcalf, head of the National Security College at Australian National University. "We're not really dealing with a normal country here. We're dealing with an authoritarian party state, where in fact Chinese citizens owe a higher loyalty to the party than to the state itself. So what we're dealing with here is the largest secret organization in human history."

(Yes- as any signle citizen in ANY line of work may be pressed into service to the state whenever the leaders demand it! With family members back home subject to state sponsored “punishment” for any non compliance of family members! Red China is the state that BILLS THE FAMILY for the cost of the bullet they use to execute criminals!)

China's embassy in Canberra has responded to allegations in Australian media of improper influence over Australia as racist attacks on Chinese people.

(In other words- those who fight back against Chinese infiltration are labelled racists by China! Just as Our idiot Boy Justin is doing to anybody who opposes his uncontrolled importation of illegals! It is the same tactic and the same goal of undermining so called white privilege!!!!!!!!)

"The relevant reports not only made unjustifiable accusations against the Chinese government," a public statement read, "but also unscrupulously vilified the Chinese students as well as the Chinese community in Australia with racial prejudice, which in turn has tarnished Australia's reputation as a multicultural society."

(Oh- the essentially monolithic society is giving moral lectures to the multi cultural society! The irony is RICH!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Medcalf says the problem is not China's people, but its Communist Party. Some of the most vulnerable victims of the party, he says, are Chinese people who left their country to live in democracies like Australia and New Zealand.

(Yes- and as mentioned- these immigrants are vulnerable to Red Army blackmail! Which may be why they were allowed to immigrate in the first place! To become handy sleeper agents available for times of trouble!!!!!)
 
Ron in Regina
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#160
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Rather than a crisis I would say this is an opportunity.

We can use this whole episode to shine a light on this abusive and corrupt regime.

**** the money. We don't need that kind of money.

We will be fine with or without Chinese trade.

We had the opportunity to shine a light on this (one of them anyway) abusive & corrupt regime, yet on Oct 21st we elected the Trudeau Lead Liberal Party of Canada back into power again:

 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
+2
#161
I do have to say though, at those first couple of English speaking debates, that Justin Trudeau must have made some pretty convincing arguments in defense of his record for the previous four years to get reelected as the PM of OUR nation....again.
 
petros
+4
#162
He is just PM. By no means is he the Leader of this Nation.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
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#163
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

He is just PM. By no means is he the Leader of this Nation.

That would be his bum buddy Butts .
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
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#164
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

We had the opportunity to shine a light on this (one of them anyway) abusive & corrupt regime, yet on Oct 21st we elected the Trudeau Lead Liberal Party of Canada back into power again:

Do you have to keep rubbing salt in the wounds?
 
Hoid
#165
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

We had the opportunity to shine a light on this (one of them anyway) abusive & corrupt regime, yet on Oct 21st we elected the Trudeau Lead Liberal Party of Canada back into power again:

I know its hard to understand but that right there is a big part of he reason Trudeau won.

Canadians are fed up with the simple-minded attack culture
 
pgs
Free Thinker
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#166
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I know its hard to understand but that right there is a big part of he reason Trudeau won.

Canadians are fed up with the simple-minded attack culture

How did those Greens make out ?
 
petros
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#167
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

UNtruedie has sold all our gold. All Canada is now is a bedroom community for anyone with actual (CROOKED) money.

We have enough in the ground to tank the price of gold if we wanted. Canadian gold mining companies operating globally make up half of the operations globally. We are the Saudi Arabia of gold.
 
Hoid
#168
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elec.../2019/results/
 
pgs
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#169
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elec.../2019/results/

Not very well . To bad .
 
petros
+1
#170
It's going to be a quick turn around before the next election. Justin was humiliated.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
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#171
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

It's going to be a quick turn around before the next election. Justin was humiliated.

He sure is in hiding . No press conferences, no selfies , no apologies. Why is he in hiding ?
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
+1
#172
His is likley low ding up in high ding.
 
spilledthebeer
#173
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

I do have to say though, at those first couple of English speaking debates, that Justin Trudeau must have made some pretty convincing arguments in defense of his record for the previous four years to get reelected as the PM of OUR nation....again.




CONVINCING ARGUMENTS.......................from Our idiot Boy???????????????????????????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MONEY TALKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals threw gravy around as if we had it to spare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The NINETY BILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT RUN UP IN THE LAST 4 YEARS...........................


PLUS THE PROMISE OF AT LEAST EIGHTY BILLION IN NEW DEBT..........................


in the next 4 years was not enough to buy a majority govt for Our idiot Boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



That is the constant LIE-beral problem...................


their bait and switch crap means two Cdns get robbed..........



for each HOG that gets bought!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Its a losing game with an ever growing list..................


of angry tax payers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And an ever SHRINKING LIST of satisfied HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
spilledthebeer
#174
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

He sure is in hiding . No press conferences, no selfies , no apologies. Why is he in hiding ?


Why is Our idiot Boy hiding you ask??????????????/


Because he has been exposed as an empty headed FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Our idiot Boy is now officially out of ideas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He does not know what to do with the pipeline he bought!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He has dramatically insisted that we are in the midst of a "climate emergency".............................


but his only solution - to devastate the lives of ordinary Cdns - HAS BEEN REJECTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



He does not know what to about rising crime and drug dealing and money laundering!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HE CERTAINLY HAS NO CLUE how to resolve Lavalin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He wants a seat on the UN Security Council but DOES NOT WANT to send Cdns to "peace keeping" operations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nor does he want to condemn the bullying of the Beijing Butchers............................


whose "basic democracy" he so admires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy has no idea what to do about the "two Michaels" - the 2 Cdns that were basically kidnapped.....................


and held as hostages by China ...........................


Our idiot Boy DOES NOT want to give in to Yankees and hand Huawei ceo Meng over to Washington....................


because Our idiot Boy HATES YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And yet idiot Boy cannot afford to be seen sucking up to Beijing Butchers as it will cost us in penalties......................


from enraged Yankees and other frustrated and disgusted allies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Idiot Boy badly wants to implement policy that will enable him to buy more votes...........................


but he is terrified that his efforts will backfire and enable THE IDIOT COUSINS ........................


meaning NDPees and GREENIES to claim much credit for any policy implemented!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



As I have said - "The Do Nothing Brigade" is firmly in charge in Ottawa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Even running off to hide will not help Our idiot Boy........................


the longer he hides - the WEAKER he looks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is NO ASPECT of LIE-beral policy that is not under attack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
spilledthebeer
#175
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

It's going to be a quick turn around before the next election. Justin was humiliated.




Oh.............depends what you mean by "quick turn around"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The idiot Boy has been exposed for the idiot he is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He has only debts and bribery and bigotry to offer us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But as our civil service union HOGS and certain racist groups.............................


such as Black Lives Matter, and Idle No More and assorted Muslims and illegals HAVE proved......................................


THEY DONT CARE about debts because they expect it to be paid by OTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And they dont worry about LIE-beral bribery because they are on the receiving end of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And they dont worry about bigotry because they expect that to work in their favour as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



AS I have said before - I figure our new minority govt is good for.........................


about six to twenty four months before it implodes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wont that be a great day when it comes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The longer Our idiot Boy is on stage - the DUMBER HE LOOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If LIE-berals were as smart as they think they are.............................


they would dump the idiot Boy ........................


and once he is safely out of range they would turn and BLAME HIM FOR EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
+2
#176
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Do you have to keep rubbing salt in the wounds?

I didn't vote for him either time. I don't personally know a single person that voted for him in the last two federal elections. Nobody who would admit to it anyway.

Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I know its hard to understand but that right there is a big part of he reason Trudeau won.

Canadians are fed up with the simple-minded attack culture

I do understand being on the end of the simple-minded attack culture as I am a Western Canadian and got to witness the Liberals, NDP, & Green Parties unite to villainize a single region of our nation to try to unite the rest of the nation.....& it sort of worked in that Justin is still the PM even after the record of the last four years. You might not believe it but I get it. I'm fairly well read and I paid attention the last four years. I'm still dumbfounded that this fool was re-elected....
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Hoid
#177
He was the odds on favorite to win and he won. Not sure how anyone could be dumbfounded by that.

BTW nobody has villainized (vilified?) the west. That's just more of the same ridiculous crap.
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
+2
#178
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

I didn't vote for him either time. I don't personally know a single person that voted for him in the last two federal elections. Nobody who would admit to it anyway.


I do understand being on the end of the simple-minded attack culture as I am a Western Canadian and got to witness the Liberals, NDP, & Green Parties unite to villainize a single region of our nation to try to unite the rest of the nation.....& it sort of worked in that Justin is still the PM even after the record of the last four years. You might not believe it but I get it. I'm fairly well read and I paid attention the last four years. I'm still dumbfounded that this fool was re-elected....


I voted for him the first time. Not the second.


The only reason why Trudeau is in is because the man picked to represent the West was unelectable outside of the West. Really, that's all there was to it.


I wouldn't say Trudeau "won" though; he lost as much as the Conservatives did.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+2
#179
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

I voted for him the first time. Not the second.


The only reason why Trudeau is in is because the man picked to represent the West was unelectable outside of the West. Really, that's all there was to it.


I wouldn't say Trudeau "won" though; he lost as much as the Conservatives did.

So you think the Quebec Dairy cartel selected Scheer to represent the west ? Yikes that is a stretch . They bought him to lose the election and they got what they paid for . Conservative support in the west was not in support of the milk man but in opposition to the boy blunder .
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#180
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

I voted for him the first time. Not the second.
The only reason why Trudeau is in is because the man picked to represent the West was unelectable outside of the West. Really, that's all there was to it.
I wouldn't say Trudeau "won" though; he lost as much as the Conservatives did.

Unelectable why? Because he lives in the West?