Historic non-stop flight between Australia and UK ready for take off


Blackleaf
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Passengers were preparing for the first direct flight between Australia and London on Saturday, passing a major milestone by reducing to 17 hours a trip that once took 12 1/2 days.

The 9,000-mile flight from Perth, one of the world’s most isolated cities, marks the first direct passenger service between the continents.

Qantas Airways' inaugural service between the Australian city of Perth and Heathrow will touch down in London at 5.05am on Sunday before departing for the return trip at 1.15pm that afternoon.

Historic non-stop flight between Australia and UK ready for take off



The plane flying from Perth to London will be a Qantas Boeing 787 Dreamliner CREDIT: GETTY

Our Foreign Staff
24 March 2018
The Telegraph

Passengers were preparing for the first direct flight between Australia and London on Saturday, passing a major milestone by reducing to 17 hours a trip that once took 12 1/2 days.

The 9,000-mile flight from Perth, one of the world’s most isolated cities, marks the first direct passenger service between the continents.

Qantas Airways' inaugural service between the Australian city of Perth and Heathrow will touch down in London at 5.05am on Sunday before departing for the return trip at 1.15pm that afternoon.

Passengers will be on board the Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner aircraft for 17 hours as they make the 9,009-mile journey.

This is 24% further than the UK's existing longest route of 7,275 miles, operated by Garuda Indonesia between Heathrow and Jakarta.

The new link with Perth will be around three hours quicker than routes which involve stopping in the Middle East to change planes or refuel.

It will also enable faster journeys to Sydney and Melbourne than flying via Dubai.

Travel firm Flight Centre has recorded "high demand" for the new Qantas flights.

Its head of aviation, Justin Penny, said: "Flight Centre definitely feels that long-term the new route is viable and we will see additional services being launched from Europe to Australia in the coming years."

Lisa Norman, the flight's captain, said: "We have been working towards (this) for the past three years and it’s very exciting”.

“When I joined Qantas not in my wildest imagination would I have thought this possible,” she told the West Australian.

Capt. Norman says she will be “absolutely exhilarated” when the plane touches down in London.

“It’s like when a painter puts the final brush stroke on the work.”



Rob Scott
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Alan Joyce checks in for the first Perth to London direct flight. Possibly the most filmed check in ever at @PerthAirport @7NewsPerth


Aviation consultant John Strickland said the launch of the flights was a significant moment for the airline industry.

He told the Press Association: "It will be a further test of how successful airlines can be with ultra long-haul flying and whether this delivers sufficient profitability to justify the investment in aircraft.

"Qantas will certainly be hoping to attract a higher proportion of premium customers due to the speed advantage combined with the 787's better cabin atmosphere."

The Dreamliners on the Perth-Heathrow route will have 42 business class flat-bed seats, 28 premium economy seats and 166 economy seats.

The aircraft boasts a number of advantages over other models, including lower cabin noise, larger windows, improved air quality and technology to reduce turbulence.

They are also heralded for their fuel efficiency, although the impact of this will be reduced by the weight of the fuel needed to fly between the UK and Australia without stopping.



The world's longest regular passenger flight is operated by Qatar Airways between Doha and Auckland, at 9,025 miles.

For Qantas, the Perth connection is a high-profile test for a planned ultra long-haul network that the airline hopes will span the world by 2022.

“You have the resources sector on both sides, you have banks, you have lawyers that all want to fly fast and reliably and comfortably,”’ said Rico Merkert, professor of transport and supply-chain management at the University of Sydney’s business school. “And I think they’re prepared to pay the premium.”

Mining companies in Western Australia dig up more than a third of the world’s iron-ore and bring in some of the largest hauls of gems and rare earths. The sector also supports financial-services firms such as Hartleys Ltd., whose Perth-based director of corporate finance Steve Kite is booked on Sunday’s flight -- the second in the new service to London -- for just a four-day trip.

“It’s effectively an overnight flight for me and that feels like I’m saving a lot of time,” Mr Kite said.

Not everyone is convinced of the route’s commercial future.

Aircraft leaving Perth for London will need feeder passengers from around Australia, said Volodymyr Bilotkach, author of the book “The Economics of Airlines.” But flying from Sydney to London via Perth saves little time over a transfer in Asia or the Gulf, he said.

Historic flight Perth-London direct tonight with @Qantas Dreamliner making the first 17-hour non-stop service. Glad to be a part of last night's launch. Sure beats four days and 9 stops in 1947. Great boost for WA tourism and investment.

Andrew McGinnes, a spokesman for Qantas in Sydney, said bookings on the new route “have been strong” and corporate clients in eastern Australia have indicated they’ll stop in Perth for meetings on their way to London. “It’s a very competitive market but this is a unique flight,” Mr McGinnes said.

An analysis of flight times and prices highlights the challenges Qantas faces.

Flying business class from Perth to London with Qantas in mid-June would cost A$6,614 (£3,600). Opting for Singapore Airlines via Singapore would take an extra 2 1/2 hours but cost just A$4,843 (£2,600), according to fares on Webjet.

Qantas has challenged Boeing and Airbus to build a jet by 2022 that can fly fully loaded from Sydney to London without a break. Success on the Perth-London service would lay the foundations for even longer routes to Europe.

“It’s really just the beginning,” said Merkert at the University of Sydney.

Top 10 | The world’s longest flights

Doha-Auckland, Qatar Airways, 9,028 miles
London-Perth, Qantas, 9,009 miles
Dubai-Auckland, Emirates, 8,824 miles
Sydney-Dallas, Qantas, 8,578 miles
Atlanta-Johannesburg, Delta, 8,439 miles
San Francisco-Singapore, United Airlines & Singapore Airlines, 8,446 miles
Abu Dhabi-Los Angeles, Etihad, 8,390 miles
Dubai-Los Angeles, Emirates, 8,339 miles
Jeddah-Los Angeles, Saudia, 8,332 miles
Doha-Los Angeles, Qatar Airways, 7,202 miles


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Johnnny
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Blackleaf
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Not at 5617 miles.
 
Curious Cdn
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Do they put the passengers into cryogenoc suspension for the flight?
 
White_Unifier
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Do they put the passengers into cryogenoc suspension for the flight?

That will be a miserable flight. I'd rather stop at an intermediary destination to stretch my legs for a day, thank you very much.
 
Curious Cdn
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That will be a miserable flight. I'd rather stop at an intermediary destination to stretch my legs for a day, thank you very much.

Honolulu sounds about right ...
 
petros
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Honolulu sounds about right ...

Wrong direction.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Wrong direction.

From where?

Can't get to Australia from Hawaii, Clem?
 
White_Unifier
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A day in Libreville, Gabon would probably make a nice mid-way point for such a trip.
 
Curious Cdn
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From where?

Can't get to Australia from Hawaii, Clem?

Pacific Ocean political map
 
White_Unifier
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Jakarta might make a nice mid-way point too.

Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Pacific Ocean political map

Why fly across North America between Australia and the UK?
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by White_Unifier View Post

Jakarta might make a nice mid-way point too.



Why fly across North America between Australia and the UK?

It's a straight fecking line with Hawaii in the middle.

This "Pacific Rim" concept is confusing in Saskatchewan.
 
White_Unifier
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It's a straight fecking line with Hawaii in the middle.

This "Pacific Rim" concept is confusing in Saskatchewan.

Yeah, that could be done too. Anything to stretch my legs for a day before continuing on.

You'd have to be into masochism to want to fly non-stop between Australia and the UK.
 
Hoid
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17 hours is long time on an airplane. I've done about 14.5
 
Curious Cdn
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17 hours is long time on an airplane. I've done about 14.5

During WWII, my father (as part of a crew) flew a PBY-5 Catalina from Lakefield, New Jersey to Ceylon (now Sri Lanka). The aircraft flew at 140 kts. Which is a little more than 1/5th of the speed of that Quantas flight. It was done in nine separate legs but leg #2 from Gander Nfld. to Oban Scotland was one of the earlier Ferry Command crossings of the Atlantic.
 
petros
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Oban, a fabulous Scotch.
 
White_Unifier
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Quito would be a nice stop-over too.
 
Curious Cdn
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Oban, a fabulous Scotch.

A famous Scotch seaport ...

I have a friend from Oban.
 
Hoid
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

During WWII, my father (as part of a crew) flew a PBY-5 Catalina from Lakefield, New Jersey to Ceylon (now Sri Lanka). The aircraft flew at 140 kts. Which is a little more than 1/5th of the speed of that Quantas flight. It was done in nine separate legs but leg #2 from Gander Nfld. to Oban Scotland was one of the earlier Ferry Command crossings of the Atlantic.

you can't even compare flying at 140kts unpressurized to flying at 35K plus pressurized.

I did 14.5 hours in an Aurora which is periods at altitude combined with periods at low level - but even that is nothing compared to the buffeting they would have taken in that Catalina.
 
Curious Cdn
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you can't even compare flying at 140kts unpressurized to flying at 35K plus pressurized.

I did 14.5 hours in an Aurora which is periods at altitude combined with periods at low level - but even that is nothing compared to the buffeting they would have taken in that Catalina.

They flew across the Bay of Biscaye at night (before nightime instrumentation) lest they get shot down by the Luftwaffe.
 
Hoid
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yes there was a lot of transporting of aircraft overseas. A friend of mines father was a bush pilot who flew aircraft from Canada to North Africa. He wasn't even in the RCAF.
 
Curious Cdn
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yes there was a lot of transporting of aircraft overseas. A friend of mines father was a bush pilot who flew aircraft from Canada to North Africa. He wasn't even in the RCAF.

...via the Azores, probably.
 
Blackleaf
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From where?

Can't get to Australia from Hawaii, Clem?

You can get to anywhere from Australia, but it would help if you took the shortest possible route to your destination rather than a long and winding one.

Australia-UK: First non-stop flight arrives in London from Perth

BBC News
25 March 2018


The Qantas 787-9 Dreamliner has a longer range than its predecessors

The first scheduled non-stop flight between Australia and the UK has touched down in London's Heathrow Airport.

Qantas Flight QF9 completed its 14,498km (9,009-mile) journey from Perth in just over 17 hours.

The airline is using the Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner, which is twice as fuel-efficient as the Boeing 747.

It is part of ambitious plans by Qantas to add ultra long-haul flights to its schedules.

The Australian flag carrier's Chief Executive, Alan Joyce, has called the new Perth-London service a "game-changing route".

Speaking at an event ahead of the inaugural flight, he said the earliest Qantas flights between Australia and the UK - known as the "kangaroo route" - had taken four days and involved seven stops.



Western Australia's state government is also hoping to see an increase in tourist numbers as a result of the new direct route.

The historic flight, carrying more than 200 passengers and 16 crew, departed from Perth at 18:49 local time on Saturday.

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Qantas Chief Executive Alan Joyce checked in at Perth for the inaugural flight


To minimise the discomfort of such a long flight, the plane is equipped with features that provide improved air quality and lower cabin noise.

Some of the passengers agreed to share data on their sleeping and activity patterns with researchers from the University of Sydney.

They wore special monitors and devices that also recorded data about their mental state, eating patterns and hydration levels.

Some aviation fanatics in the UK were up early tracking the plane's flight path and anticipating its landing.

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"We have a touchdown!!" wrote Twitter user Andrew Leong, who said it was "a milestone in the aviation industry".

Another user, Leigh Mason, said the achievement was "amazing", adding: "Hope to fly this one day."

The Premier of Western Australia, Mark McGowan, tweeted on arrival in London: "A new era of travel and opportunities for Western Australia's economy has officially begun."

Those arriving in London in the early hours following their historic flight shared images of the welcome they received at Heathrow Airport.

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A warm and cheery welcome on a chilly Sunday morning at #London Heathrow for those arriving on #Qantas flight #QF9 from #Perth #qfdreamliner

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The new Perth-London flight is around three hours faster than other routes that involve stops in the Middle East to change planes or refuel.

The flight is the world's second-longest after Qatar Airways' route from Doha to Auckland, which spans 14,529km, according to the International Air Transport Association.

Other carriers, including Emirates and United Airlines, have also flown non-stop journeys greater than 14,000km.

In 2017, United Airlines launched a route from Los Angeles to Singapore, offering the longest-distance non-stop flight available from the US.

But Singapore Airlines has provided the world's longest flight, travelling more than 15,300km from Singapore to New York on a direct route that was discontinued in 2013.

Australia-UK: First non-stop flight arrives in London from Perth - BBC News


Qantas staff wave Australian and British flags at the Boeing 787 Dreamliner after landing at Heathrow Airport after a 17 hour flight


A Qantas Boeing 787 Dreamliner landing at Heathrow Airport after a direct flight from Perth to London



The historic flight into London flew from Australia non-stop in 17 hours and 6 minutes


Alan Joyce (right) celebrates as he arrives into Terminal 3 at Heathrow Airport in London


Officers and captains of the first ever direct flight from Perth to London sit in arrivals at Heathrow Terminal


Qantas CEO Alan Joyce (middle) celebrates with passengers and crew at Heathrow Airport the success of the first flight from Perth to London




The trip marks the beginning of the fastest way to travel from Australia to Europe


Not everything was smooth sailing as the flight experienced some turbulence from Cyclone Marcus



The inaugural trip took off to a round of applause and landed with another round of applause as people made history on this first ever event


Qantas Chief Alan Joyce (pictured) arrives at the check-in counter at Perth Airport for the first direct flight to Heathrow airport from Perth at Perth Airport


Qantas Group CEO Alan Joyce (pictured) described it as a major milestone for Australia



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taxslave
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Where is the concord when you really need it?
 
Blackleaf
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Where is the concord when you really need it?

A former RAF pilot has just been on Sky News talking about this flight and he was asked about whether a non-stop flight between London and Sydney will be possible. And he said it will probably be in the next few years. But he pointed out that whilst plane journeys have now got longer their speeds haven't gone faster and he said he would maybe like to see the return of Concorde, which made its last flight in 2003, and do these long-haul flights. Either that, or develop new super-fast airliners.
 
Curious Cdn
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A former RAF pilot has just been on Sky News talking about this flight and he was asked about whether a non-stop flight between London and Sydney will be possible. And he said it will probably be in the next few years. But he pointed out that whilst plane journeys have now got longer their speeds haven't gone faster and he said he would maybe like to see the return of Concorde, which made its last flight in 2003, and do these long-haul flights. Either that, or develop new super-fast airliners.

You'd have to perform two or three mid-air refuelings (of a civilian airliner!!!) to get a Concorde from Sydney to London. How many did it take you get a V-bomber with the same sort of engine to the Falklands?