Angels have seen how the universe was created, that makes them about 40B years old as that is when matter began to clump together, Adam saw the garden starting 400,000BC. Mankind is destined to gain the same knowledge.
The list is pretty long and I'm not sure they would be the builders of all the megaliths around the globe.
There is no evidence that this universe was created 40 billion years ago or twenty nor ten even and there is no clumping together under gravitational accretion. There is no scientific explanation for the process called called gravity without the electromagnetic medium, none whatsoever.
Matter does not just start to clump together and furthermore there is as much dissassociation of matter as there is association ongoing in the visable universe. Occording to the old guys who bothered to comment at all about the age and origin of the universe for the most part they assumed it was without beginning, always was and always will be.
We could just as reliably have said that the universe was 27.2 billion years old or 15 .5 or 107.8 or seventeen billion years of age and been consistantly wrong with every bit of rank speculation on the age of an as yet undefined thingy of which there is no evident edge nor center. 22.4, 6.5, 11and three quarters, eight and a harf 52,11/16ths
That is Sumeria, probably 'Summeria; is it would be perpetual summer in an natural fashion during a full on ice-age.
The standards are the same for the oldest works. I din;t see monkeys doing any of this really.
Perhaps 'beyond the pillars' means entering the Med Sea rather than leaving it, back when it was 400ft lower than the waterline it has today.
So . . . what has that to with a theoretical discussion? If the past bothers you what will the future along that same timeline do yo you??
So saith the balloon to the wall.
The common part it is 'older than anyone that has been alive'.
Stop whineing I,m not disagreeing with you excepting the numbers of years. I wonder if you,ve considered how long was these years you,ve used. Forty billion years of no fixed days or months is not very accurate guessing? How how many hours long were those days? How many months in the years ? Who or what was counting?Which way was up?
1 and 3 are the same.
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And I saw a great white throne,
and him that sat on it,
from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away;
and there was found no place for them.
And I saw the dead,
small and great,
stand before God;
and the books were opened:
and another book was opened,
which is the book of life:
and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books,
according to their works.
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it;
and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them:
and they were judged every man according to their works.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.
This is the second death.
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth:
for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away;
and there was no more sea.
And I John saw the holy city,
coming down from God out of heaven,
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying,
the tabernacle of God is with men,
and he will dwell with them,
and they shall be his people,
and God himself shall be with them,
and be their God.
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes;
and there shall be no more death,
neither shall there be any more pain:
for the former things are passed away.
And he that sat upon the throne said,
I make all things new.
And he said unto me,
for these words are true and faithful.
And he said unto me,
It is done.
I am Alpha and Omega,
the beginning and the end.
I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
He that overcometh shall inherit all things;
and I will be his God,
and he shall be my son.
But the fearful,
and the abominable,
and all liars,
shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:
which is the second death.
Buddha seems to be a sumo wrestler telling the peasants to be happy with one bowl of rice per day. Say what?? Practice what you preach lord of the lard.