ABEXIT - is it time for Alberta to think about leaving Canada?


Hoid
#1531
Ecana is a once $90 stock that is on sale today for 3 dollars and change

America is where I would go too if I was going to pull the plug on a business
 
captain morgan
+3
#1532
I wonder if Encana will set up business next to tesla?
 
Curious Cdn
+1
#1533
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

I wonder if Encana will set up business next to tesla?

No, they're going to the States.

Tesla is leaving the United States.
 
B00Mer
+2
#1534
As an Albertan I'm past being angry at Eastern Canada. Alberta and Saskatchewan have such different views on how we should develope and benefit from our resources I don't think there can ever be a reconciliation. The first goal of any marriage is to try and make it work, but when it becomes apparent that it will never work it is time to end it to stop the fighting. We are at that stage here in the west. It is definitely time to end the relationship and find alternatives.

And this not just because of this last election. This is due to yrs and yrs of east vs west. We think so much different and quite frankly they have NO respect for us and DONT care . We are more similar to western US. Sad but true..

It time for a referendum in Alberta 1. To stop equalization payments, 2. To see how many Albertans would want to join the USA as the 51st State..

Enough talk, hold a referendum NOW!!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...tate-1.2998453
 
B00Mer
+2
#1535
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Ecana is a once $90 stock that is on sale today for 3 dollars and change
America is where I would go too if I was going to pull the plug on a business

... and you still can't afford to buy thier stock.
 
B00Mer
+1
#1536
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Is that where you got the idea?

What AVRO?
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#1537
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

As an Albertan I'm past being angry at Eastern Canada. Alberta and Saskatchewan have such different views on how we should develope and benefit from our resources I don't think there can ever be a reconciliation. The first goal of any marriage is to try and make it work, but when it becomes apparent that it will never work it is time to end it to stop the fighting. We are at that stage here in the west. It is definitely time to end the relationship and find alternatives.
And this not just because of this last election. This is due to yrs and yrs of east vs west. We think so much different and quite frankly they have NO respect for us and DONT care . We are more similar to western US. Sad but true..
It time for a referendum in Alberta 1. To stop equalization payments, 2. To see how many Albertans would want to join the USA as the 51st State..
Enough talk, hold a referendum NOW!!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...tate-1.2998453

The U.S. won't take it. Certainly not after one look at you, "duel" citizen.
 
Cannuck
+1
#1538
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

It time for a referendum in Alberta 1. To stop equalization payments....-

I’m not sure which is funnier but you either think that Alberta can vote to stop the feds from making equalization payments or you think Alberta sends some kind of “equalization cheque” to Ottawa.

Either way, you’re an idiot.
 
B00Mer
+1
#1539
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

I’m not sure which is funnier but you either think that Alberta can vote to stop the feds from making equalization payments or you think Alberta sends some kind of “equalization cheque” to Ottawa.
Either way, you’re an idiot.

You're not much of an Albertan, why don't you go crawl back under the rock which you came from..

https://globalnews.ca/news/5113104/a...on-referendum/
 
B00Mer
+1
#1540
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

The U.S. won't take it. Certainly not after one look at you, "duel" citizen.

AVRO, still the usual troll I see.

The US has you a fake lawyer, they would get some real ones if Alberta joined
 
Cannuck
#1541
Kenny’s an idiot....or better yet, he plays to idiots
 
Cannuck
#1542
Every single Albertan will pay higher provincial taxes as Kenney has not indexed tax brackets. This is a $600 million tax increase.

Vehicle registration and recreational vehicle registration fees are increasing.

Municipal taxes will increase to cover lower transfers from the province.

New fees on tourism levies – like hotel rooms and Airbnb accommodations.

Increased tobacco and vaping taxes.



Jason Kenney - Another pretend conservative
 
MHz
#1543
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Every single Albertan will pay higher provincial taxes as Kenney has not indexed tax brackets. This is a $600 million tax increase.

Vehicle registration and recreational vehicle registration fees are increasing.

Municipal taxes will increase to cover lower transfers from the province.

New fees on tourism levies – like hotel rooms and Airbnb accommodations.

Increased tobacco and vaping taxes.



Jason Kenney - Another pretend conservative

Sin tax that gives you a government discount might be a hit. (hookers and booze and pot, hookers are not shipped, sex robots are though)Not nearly the money maker an online RezHardware store would make. The server has to be located there as well as having enough goods to satisfy the local demand otherwise Canada Post can take delivery at the warehouse that serves Canada. Pizza by drone would not be as in demand as a pallet of cement moved up the slope of a mountain so the natural terrain stays that way. The owner would chopper in and out of the fortress (or zip-line). On the ranch it would monitor crops as wells delivering 'meds' to the plants or the herds at the watering hole or by dart-gun.
 
B00Mer
+1
#1544
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Every single Albertan will pay higher provincial taxes as Kenney has not indexed tax brackets. This is a $600 million tax increase.
Vehicle registration and recreational vehicle registration fees are increasing.
Municipal taxes will increase to cover lower transfers from the province.
New fees on tourism levies – like hotel rooms and Airbnb accommodations.
Increased tobacco and vaping taxes.
Jason Kenney - Another pretend conservative


Since equalization was created (in 1957), Alberta has received 0.02% of all payments, the last of which was in 1964-1965. In contrast, Quebec has received equalization money every year of the program, totalling 221 billion dollars or 51 per cent of all payments.

No it would not affect Alberta as you say above..

However, even if we had a referendum transfer payments are protected in the 1982 Constitution so it can’t suddenly be axed.


https://business.financialpost.com/c...-pipeline-wars
 
Cannuck
+1
#1545
Great backtrack but I’m not sure what that has to do with Kenney being a pretend conservative
 
Cannuck
#1546
Elimination of the scientific research and experimental development credit

Removal of the interactive digital media credit, which targeted job creation in software design.


Kenney is afraid to technology
 
Curious Cdn
#1547
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Elimination of the scientific research and experimental development credit
Removal of the interactive digital media credit, which targeted job creation in software design.
Kenney is afraid to technology

Maybe, he's another anti-science Bible thumper.
 
Cannuck
#1548
Broken explicit platform promise to maintain the city charter with Edmonton & Calgary and the funding arrangements included it in.

Cuts grants in lieu of property tax on its buildings, meaning a cut to municipal funding.


Kenney undermines municipalities
 
Curious Cdn
#1549
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Broken explicit platform promise to maintain the city charter with Edmonton & Calgary and the funding arrangements included it in.
Cuts grants in lieu of property tax on its buildings, meaning a cut to municipal funding.
Kenney undermines municipalities

I doubt that he likes the mayor of Calgary.
 
Cannuck
#1550
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

I doubt that he likes the mayor of Calgary.


He only likes stupid people that lap up his rhetoric
 
MHz
#1551
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Since equalization was created (in 1957), Alberta has received 0.02% of all payments, the last of which was in 1964-1965. In contrast, Quebec has received equalization money every year of the program, totalling 221 billion dollars or 51 per cent of all payments.

No it would not affect Alberta as you say above..

However, even if we had a referendum transfer payments are protected in the 1982 Constitution so it can’t suddenly be axed.


https://business.financialpost.com/c...-pipeline-wars

Have the referendum that sins of the past Government can be undone singularity or in a group and make 1948 the effective date for how far back the UN courts would be willing to go back. Having Judges from 3rd world countries would help the case arrive at the correct verdict and award the correct damages. Collective means 'Jane Doe' and anybody missing completely. Lacking proof a high number is chosen instead of the lowest. The money taken from the rich and given to the poor still belongs to the same bank. Who they favor has changed and they do not like competition, or 'a potential witnesses against them'.
 
Cannuck
#1552
Budget takes back full control of public service pension plans. Giving the government control over benefits and investments of the plan

Kenney loves more bureaucracy
 
JLM
+2 / -1
#1553
Kenney may be an idiot but with about triple the I.Q. of the Putz!
 
Cannuck
#1554
Trumpite loves lying taxing politicians
 
JLM
+2 / -1
#1555
Can Kenney be any worse than Rachel Notley?
 
Cannuck
#1556
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Can Kenney be any worse than Rachel Notley?

Jason Kenney says he will balance the budget by 2023 – the exact same timeline the Notley NDP government was working toward without all the cuts. Under Kenney – the budget deficit is expected to increase by $2 billion next year!

Of course he can. He’s a pretend conservative
 
captain morgan
+3
#1557
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

As an Albertan I'm past being angry at Eastern Canada. Alberta and Saskatchewan have such different views on how we should develope and benefit from our resources I don't think there can ever be a reconciliation. The first goal of any marriage is to try and make it work, but when it becomes apparent that it will never work it is time to end it to stop the fighting. We are at that stage here in the west. It is definitely time to end the relationship and find alternatives.

And this not just because of this last election. This is due to yrs and yrs of east vs west. We think so much different and quite frankly they have NO respect for us and DONT care . We are more similar to western US. Sad but true..

It time for a referendum in Alberta 1. To stop equalization payments, 2. To see how many Albertans would want to join the USA as the 51st State..

Enough talk, hold a referendum NOW!!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...tate-1.2998453


Well said, right up to the point of joining the US.


Why on Earth would you want to swap Fed gvts that will clean your clock on taxes and I'm wondering exactly what the US Fed brings to the table in terms of benefits



That said, AB and Sask do need to consider alternative arrangements and considering the problems that Eastern Canada is facing in the next few years, this is even more reason to pull the plug
 
JLM
+1
#1558
"Of course he can. He’s a pretend conservative"...……………..Oh, just like you!
 
B00Mer
+1
#1559
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Jason Kenney says he will balance the budget by 2023 – the exact same timeline the Notley NDP government was working toward without all the cuts. Under Kenney – the budget deficit is expected to increase by $2 billion next year!
Of course he can. He’s a pretend conservative

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

"Of course he can. He’s a pretend conservative"...……………..Oh, just like you!

aaagh! Okay.. taking a wild guess.. you voted NDP?

I mean you're defending Notley, really. I guess that bump in the minimum wage to $15 dollars help you buy that timeshare in Mexico..

Okay enough with the trolling.. Jason Kenney is not what Alberta needed, it was just another protest vote by Albertans, same when the NDP got elected.

Alberta needs Ralph Klein, some comedy relief to forget the bad economy.
 
petros
+4
#1560
Can't have a dollar worth a dollar. Either AB & SK take the hit or princess Ontario will tank.