CDN Election 2019


Curious Cdn
Conservative
#1051
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

Really? you look up people's asses for a living. ewwwww! that is the kind of curious most canadians aren't

This is all waaaay beyond you, Bondo. Try to stick to what you know.
 
JamesBondo
+2
#1052
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

This is all waaaay beyond you, Bondo. Try to stick to what you know.

Ewwww. You know what is up liberal's butts.
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
+7
#1053  Top Rated Post
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Trudeau Fires At Tories As Liberals Unveil Campaign Slogan

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/...ics%20Aug%2026

" Choose Forward " this round and not " Sunny Ways " or " The Budget Will Balance Itself " or " Open & Accountable " or " We're Not Stephen Harper! " Huh, go figure."Choose Forward" is vague enough to be used as a catch phrase as it doesn't really say anything so I can see that.
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
+5
#1054
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

who would make an issue out of discrimination?

Wow...OK. The "Irregular Migrant" term for border jumpers & the "Irregular Tourist" term for returning ISIL and ISIS fighters & the whole attention whore selfie thing at the LGBTQ Parades and those who aren't there for selfies are practicing discrimination & so on and so forth. It's a huge divisive political wedge and maybe I'm skimming and missing the implied sarcasm due to missing the context this was referring to. It's a multifaceted issue used by politicians to beat each other over the head with constantly.

Again, if I'm missing the implied sarcasm due to missing the context this was referring to I apologize.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
+1
#1055
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

" Choose Forward " this round and not " Sunny Ways " or " The Budget Will Balance Itself " or " Open & Accountable " or " We're Not Stephen Harper! " Huh, go figure."Choose Forward" is vague enough to be used as a catch phrase as it doesn't really say anything so I can see that.

We should have a contest for the best slogan for the campaign.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1 / -1
#1056
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Maybe you should amend your nom de plume to something more truthful.......................................... .........


like Joyless LIE-beral Monkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


Whining about my moniker or my font.............................................


is NOT CONDUCIVE to exposing LIE-beral SCANDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


And your nonsense will not get us the govt we DESERVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








(I say: The truly UGLY reality here is the LIE-beral carbon crap and trade is simply a massive GRAVY GRAB of immense proportions- and IT IS working to produce that gravy- for Hogs!)

(For reasons I don’t understand -Conservative party got the following list of LIE-beral vehicle purchases and then failed to use the DAMAGING INFORMATION!! Instead they gave the information to Ezra Levant at Rebel Media and he posted it online!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Here is the list of vehicles our idiot environment ministry purchased for its privileged Civil service elite Hogs - even as Canada slid into a “Climate Emergency”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!):


I don't see what the problem is with the Liberals. You're laid out in detail just how bad they are in no uncertain terms so everyone in the country can understand, hence they will be lucky to get 50 votes so you should rest assured it's going to be "Goodbye Liberals".
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
+5
#1057
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

We should have a contest for the best slogan for the campaign.

How about, “Move along, nothing to see here, Keep going... look over there...” ???
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+2
#1058
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina View Post

How about, “Move along, nothing to see here, Keep going... look over there...” ???

... or ... "We are the natural governing party of Canada. Here, take your meds."
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#1059
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

Ewwww. You know what is up liberal's butts.

He likes to look 'em in the eye when they are talking.

That's character.
 
MHz
#1060
Would be that 'the one eye'?
 
spilledthebeer
#1061
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

Hey do you remember the liberal adscam scandal? I'm still waiting for the Liberals to return the money like the conservatives did with Duffy.






FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!


That is a GOOD POINT Bondo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-berals presided over a govt that saw............................................... ......


THREE BILLION DOLLARS OF OUR TAX MONEY STOLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And LIE-beral STOOGE Paul Martin told us.........................................


HE WOULD get to the bottom of the MESS.........................................


AND HE TOLD US................................................


LIE-berals would pay back any missing money............................................. ...


even if it was as much as ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What Martin basically told us...................................


was that IF enough evidence was piled up to CONVICT LIE-berals............................................ .......


in the eyes of civil service union HOGS and other LIE-beral supporters........................................ ..


WHO ALL BENEFITED from the LIE-beral gravy train............................................. ......



and who were all DELIBERATELY AVERTING THEIR EYES from the evidence......................................



then Martin MIGHT PAY BACK AS MUCH AS HALF A PERCENT........................................... ..............



of the missing money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes.......................................


this is social justice........................................... ........


and responsible govt.............................................. .


LIE-beral style!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!


The Lavalin OUTRAGES are merely the ICING on the LIE-beral crap cake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


AS for Duffy......................................


IS IT NOT IRONIC.......................................


that Conservatives paid back his wasted money...................................


because they thought it was a point of HONOUR......................................


to show that sort of respect for OUR tax money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


Conservatives WERE NOT OBLIGATED to pay anything back.....................................


but THEY DID anyway......................................


for the public good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


And LIE-berals MOCKED them for their foolishness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!



While at the same time..................................


LIE-beral senator MacDonald Harb.........................................


WASTED WAY MORE MONEY THAN DUFFY EVER DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Harb walked away LAUGHING AT US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is NO SLEAZE........................................


quite like LIE-beral SLEAZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now we need the REMINDER..........................................


that NDPers and Greenies........................................


are merely LOW CLASS LIE-berals............................................


LACKING the low guile and cunning.........................................


to be PROPER LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#1062
John Ivison: Andrew Scheer goes at his critics head-on over gay marriage and abortion
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
-1
#1063
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

John Ivison: Andrew Scheer goes at his critics head-on over gay marriage and abortion


I'm starting to wonder if this election will boil down to a contest comprised of social issues vs. lack of integrity.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#1064
That's where the Libs. want to take it
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
-1
#1065
Quote: Originally Posted by Twin_Moose View Post

That's where the Libs. want to take it


We can only hope!
 
Hoid
+1
#1066
lol the conservatives want to talk social issues
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#1067
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I'm starting to wonder if this election will boil down to a contest comprised of social issues vs. lack of integrity.

Possibly, on a lack of integrity about social issues ...
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
+2
#1068
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

I'm starting to wonder if this election will boil down to a contest comprised of social issues vs. lack of integrity.

Thing is, the Liberals are falsely making up the Conservative position with no basis in reality. That of course is often the Liberal position.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
+1 / -2
#1069
https://globalnews.ca/news/5822083/r...udeau-nafta%2F

Poor Andrew. Even his own people think he’s full of shit
 
spilledthebeer
#1070
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

Ewwww. You know what is up liberal's butts.




ITS A BIG CHUNK OF BONDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


That is what is stuck there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But dont worry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The election will; CLEAN YOU ALL RIGHT OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





 
spilledthebeer
+1
#1071
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Thing is, the Liberals are falsely making up the Conservative position with no basis in reality. That of course is often the Liberal position.




TRUE DAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


LIE-berals whined that Harper had a "secret agenda"........................................


simply because they lacked any credible way to attack Harper policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now they make a fuss over gay marriage.......................................... ..


even though no politician in his right mind would speak against it in this day and age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And AGAIN WE SEE....................................


LIE-berals HAVE NO OTHER WAY...........................................


to oppose Scheer policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals HAVE TO CREATE DECEPTIVE NARRATIVES..............................


to cover their own LACK of sound policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!



LIE-berals PANIC and leave the room if somebody so much as whispers "Lavalin"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals go GREEN in far and loathing whenever anybody asks "HOW MUCH the carbon tax SCAM................................


will be increased in cost of LIE-berals are re-elected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals react with DISGUST if you ask how many jobs their Carbon SCAM will KILL OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals stay up late...................................



devising ever more elaborate SMOKE SCREENS........................................... ...


to HIDE THE FACT - they will NEVER BUILD Kinder Morgan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


LIE-berals call you a LUNATIC if you ask how much it will cost us all..................................


to kill the Cdn oil patch and drive Alberta into BANKRUPTCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


LIE-berals strut like Peacocks.......................................


LOUDLY DECLAIMING THEIR SUCCESS at building up the economy.....................................


but they REFUSE TO DISCUSS what will happen when access to BORROWED BILLIONS IS CUT OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals will not discuss the looming debt wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Will not discuss the swarming mobs of illegals coming to Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


Nor will LIE-berals admit there is a TROUBLING TREND among the illegals...........................


ever more of them are simply claiming asylum WITHOUT ADMITTING WHERE THEY CAME FROM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral security checks were always cursory at best.......................................


but for these new arrivals - any security check is IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


And of course even if the new govt that replaces Our idiot Boy...................................


decides to deport some of these illegals...................................


the hands of the new govt are TIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They CANNOT send the illegals back to United States...................................


whose lands they simply crossed as they came to Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And without any admission regarding true country of origin..........................................


IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to send the rejects BACK HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!


ALL LIE-beral policy is built ON DECEIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Built on FAKE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!


Built on SELFISH LIE-beral party interests!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


At this time LIE-berals are still trying to win us over..........................................


if LIE-berals win again in OCTOBER........................................... .


then we can count on them going on an UNPRECEDENTED and EPIC RAMPAGE......................


of tax looting and new revenue tool pillaging......................................... ........


and all spiced with incredible acts of political vandalism......................................... ..


such as loading us up with an immense new mob of illegals...........................


who will sell their votes to LIE-berals.......................................



in exchange for the life long govt aid they will require to survive in Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#1072



Conservative politics 101:
1) Run on cutting the deficit
2) Cut taxes for wealthy individuals and corporations (deficit increases)
3) Slash and burn social services
4) Blame your predecessor
 
Hoid
#1073
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post




Conservative politics 101:
1) Run on cutting the deficit
2) Cut taxes for wealthy individuals and corporations (deficit increases)
3) Slash and burn social services
4) Blame your predecessor

this is why the nattys are feelings-based deniers
 
spilledthebeer
#1074
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post




Conservative politics 101:
1) Run on cutting the deficit
2) Cut taxes for wealthy individuals and corporations (deficit increases)
3) Slash and burn social services
4) Blame your predecessor






OH CLIFFY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


YOU REALLY ARE A BAD LIAR.............................................. .........


even after having had so very much practice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!



But that is what dedicated LIE-berals DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They CHERRY PICK THROUGH the numbers..............................


seeking out those they like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh sure.............................................. ........


for instance Harper spent a LOT OF MONEY,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,


RIGHT AFTER the 2008 economic melt down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!


Harper DID NOT create the melt down........................................


but financiers across the planet HAILED HARPER AND CANADA....................................


for coming out of it BETTER than anybody else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


While at the same time LIE-berals and their idiot cousins........................................... .


of NDP loudly cursed Harper for being a cheap ass bastard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


For NOT SPENDING EVEN MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yet when Our idiot Boy was elected in 2015.............................................. ......


LIE-berals saw fit to CURSE HARPER AGAIN............................................. .


because of the $1.5 billion dollar deficit........................................... ..........


that was the result of the Oil Price Collapse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!


And in spite of all their previous noise...........................................


LIE-berals IMMEDIATELY BALLOONED THAT $1.5 billion deficit.........................................


INTO A THIRTY TWO BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!


The hard reality is that when the money runs out............................................... ....


all the wasteful and extravagant LIE-berals GET FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Conservatives get called in to SORT OUT THE MESS...........................


THAT LIE-berals MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!


Good luck trying to ERASE THAT TRUTH Cliffy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your skill as a LIAR is totally INADEQUATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
 
spilledthebeer
#1075
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

this is why the nattys are feelings-based deniers






Oh pity the poor Lie-berals and their civil service Working Family Hog allies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


They must stretch the truth to the breaking point and beyond in an effort to smear Conservatives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is a random sample of Lie-beral accusations made recently on this site:

Accuse conservatives of suppressing scientific findings. Apparently telling civil service Hogs their wages will be frozen because we cannot afford to pay them more without wrecking our economy is Unscientific?

Accuse conservatives of suppressing votes for women. Apparently the Lie-beral idea that 50 percent of parliament seats should be reserved for women regardless of who Cdns WANT to elect is popular among some aspiring fascist dictator types who expect to be able to manipulate the newly elected!

Accuse conservatives of suppressing Black right to vote. Sorry, wrong country, wrong century! This is modern Canada, not Mississippi!

Suppression of legalized alcohol? What? Did some Lie-beral get arrested for running a still recently?


And where does Doug Ford with his "lest sell beer in corner stores fit into the LIE-beral CRAP Narrative??????????????

Suppression of green technology? Lie-berals had better take a closer look at public opinion re the Ontari-owe experience with `green` technology that ONLY cleans wallets and has done NOTHING to clean the air!



And LIE-berals had better look again at public opinion regarding acceptance of their carbon tax SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals have stopped talking about the Vaunted Paris Accord ever since LIE-berals themselves admitted it was a TOTAL FAILURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


LIE-berals whine about a "climate emergency" while flying frantically around the country - burning millions of litres of jet fuel searching for photo ops while making new funding announcements at a furious rate- trying to BUY themselves some good press !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yet LIE-berals totally IGNORE the fleets of Sea-Doos whining across multiple lakes - yes 300 horsepower, super charged pleasure machines are OKAY with LIE-berals - just so long as the riders VOTE LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Too bad for Lie-berals that their accusations are vague and open to much debate and often relate to other countries and other centuries and other political groups who have no connection to Cdn conservatives. Lie-berals make desperate and silly accusations because they DO NOT have valid ones. But conservatives prefer to work with FACTS rather than Lie-beral style mud slinging.

It is historical fact that Lie-beral prime minister Mackenzie King met with Adolf Hitler in 1936 and came back to Canada to tell us Hitler was “a dour but basically good man bringing some much need discipline and hope to the German people. And Winston Churchill was a war monger”!

Lie-beral prime ministers have led Canada for fully 70 years of the twentieth century and thus we see it is Lie-beral spending and mismanagement that has produced our great debts and our annual deficits. Any conservative who tries to clean up the mess is immediately labeled a BAD money manager and accused of suppressing various idiot facts by the people who MADE the mess with their insane habit of buying the support of civil service gravy train riding Hogs!

Lie-berals do not want to discuss Pierre Trudeau and his rabid dictator values. Our PET (Pierre) spent 1942 roaring around Montreal on a motorcycle trying to organize a dock workers union so he could use it to disrupt the flow of supplies to Europe and hamper what he saw as the “British war of Imperialism against Nazi Germany”!

Lie-berals do not want to talk about the wonderful warm reception Our PET got in 1948 in Communist China-Mao and the Red Guards had not even finished jailing and murdering opponents and yet they welcomed Trudeau with open arms and let him roam FREELY through the country. Our PET did not worry much about the rights of anybody but himself.

When our PET came back to Canada he waxed eloquent about life in China and told reporters “he wanted to take Canada from the past into the future via the route of radical socialism”! So much for Cdn democracy!

And the son of our PET-the boy with nice hair has ALSO expressed his admiration for “the way the Chinese get things done”. By which he means the senior dictators simply decide what they want and issue orders-there is NONE of that silly dissent and messy opposition party nonsense in China-the leaders simply shout down and silence ANY opposition because the leaders are always right....even when they are NOT! This is the virtue of owning all the printing presses and news media and schools and NOTHING happens unless the dictators approve it! And NOBODY laughs at absurd accusations of conservative suppression over there either-its NOT ALLOWED!
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#1076
 
spilledthebeer
#1077
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post






Poor Cliffy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The kid is wearing love glasses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cliffy wears beer goggles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

 
Mowich
Conservative
+2
#1078
COMMENTARY: Raising the issue of same sex marriage is a cynical and self-serving Liberal ploy

With less than two months before Canadians go to the polls, there are some worrying signs for the federal NDP.

For example, as of Thursday afternoon, the NDP had a total of only 148 candidates in place, which represents fewer than half of the total ridings in the country — an ominous sign for an ostensibly national party. Meanwhile, recent polls have the NDP in a distant third place, well behind two main parties, and only slightly ahead of the somewhat surging Green Party.

This could all bode very well for the Liberals. As polls show the Liberals and Conservatives neck and neck, stealing four or five points from the NDP would go a long way. Certainly, the Liberal victory in the last election was due in large part to winning over progressive voters from the NDP.

But of course, this isn’t 2015, when the Liberals could run on an aspirational sort of platform. There’s much for progressives to dislike about their broken promises and their record. The Liberals now have a record to defend.

There is, however, one 2015 message that can be repackaged for 2019: only the Liberals can stop the Conservatives.

If anyone was wondering why the Liberals made such a show of calling attention to Andrew Scheer’s 2005 speech in the House of Commons during the same-sex marriage debate, it’s all a part of this strategy of trying to win over reluctant progressive voters.

There’s nothing the Liberals can say — or nothing credible, anyway — that could justify why they walked away from electoral reform, an issue that was key in winning over many progressive voters. The Liberal spin about the SNC-Lavalin scandal is transparently weak to all but the most hardened Liberal partisans.

The message is very simple, not to mention very cynical: you can have us, warts and all, or you can have Andrew Scheer.

The fact that Scheer opposed same-sex marriage in 2005 was not exactly a major revelation, and the video reminder of that fact likely had very little impact on anyone already planning to vote either Liberal or Conservative. It wasn’t aimed at them, anyway.

If, ultimately, some Canadians are convinced that Scheer isn’t as enthusiastically supportive of same-sex marriage as they might like, then so be it.

But it’s an absurd proposition to suggest that there’s any sort of “hidden agenda” here or that the 2005 same-sex marriage debate is relevant in 2019.

The Canadian public is now overwhelmingly supportive of same-sex marriage rights in a way that was certainly not the case 15 years ago. Perhaps many opponents or skeptics (which, let’s not forget, included many Liberals) needed to see first-hand that the sky wasn’t going to fall. Either way, opposition to same-sex marriage has eroded considerably.

Moreover, the Conservative Party of Canada has officially embraced support of marriage equality in its party platform. If there was any lingering doubt, Andrew Scheer this week made it clear that he supports Canada’s marriage law and that he would defend those rights.

Even if one were to argue that this is “reluctant” support on Scheer’s part (as Trudeau has), what difference does it make? Scheer has vowed to support a position that his party supports and that the vast majority of Canadians support. If this troubles Scheer or keeps him up at night, why should the rest of us care?

It’s not unlike cannabis legalization, something that Scheer — much more recently — vocally opposed. Scheer has made it clear, though, that the Conservatives will not undo legalization. It’s very clearly reluctant support, but the Liberals are not trotting out old videos or claiming that legalization is in jeopardy. We should judge governments on what they do, not on our speculation of what lies deep in their heart of hearts.

The fact is, it would be political suicide for the Conservatives to revisit same-sex marriage (or abortion, for that matter). Any social conservatives hoping otherwise are going to be, yet again, sorely disappointed.

The Conservatives certainly have policies that they intend on implementing and Liberal policies they intend on undoing. Canadians can assess those and vote accordingly.

But same-sex marriage is a settled issue. Canadians support it and we’ve moved on — those who haven’t are free to stew in their own resentment. There’s no reason at all, though, why it should be an election issue in 2019. Hopefully, even progressive voters will be able to see through the Liberal’s cynical tactics.

www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/commentary-raising-the-issue-of-same-sex-marriage-is-a-cynical-and-self-serving-liberal-ploy/ar-
 
Hoid
-1
#1079
the question about the conservative position on abortion is anything but clear.

Scheer campaigned for the leadership promising that back benchers would be allowed to bring forward any bill they felt strongly about.

but now they say they will not allow an abortion bill to be heard

which one is it?
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#1080



 

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