How the GW myth is perpetuated

He asked for suggestions, I gave him one.

It wasn't a personal attack, it was a humourous suggestion.

Too bad.
Media Tend To Doomsay When Addressing Environmental Issues

ScienceDaily (July 9, 2009) — This study, undertaken by researchers from the University of the Basque Country (UBC), analyses the role played by the media in creating and spreading a stance regarding the protection of the environment, sustainable development and natural heritage.
This research, published in the latest issue of the Revista Latina de Comunicación Social (Latin Journal of Social Communication in English) proposes and performs an analysis of the dialectic strategies used by the daily press to treat environmental information. Jose Ignacio Lorente, a lecturer at the UBC and one of the researchers who participated in the project told SINC that the study was concerned with "the way in which social communication media, particularly news media, contribute to creating and spreading social visions of sustainable development and the conservation and protection of the environment in general and natural heritage in particular".

The research team studied the information published in connection with the environmental summit held in Bali in 2007. Apart from this analysis, the researchers complemented this information with a survey carried out in Urdaibai, the Basque Country. The questions referred to the perceptions, attitudes and willingness to participate in mitigating the adverse effects of climate change, aspects in relation to the social representations identified in the analysis of the contents of the study.
The extensive analysis of the dialectics included an evaluation of the so-called news agendas, as well as framing procedures (the way in which the media determine how they will consider and publicly present information) and priming procedures (which ensure the relevance of certain aspects of the news that sustain the reasoning behind a given interpretation of the facts).
Lorente believes the conclusions of this study suggest that "the media make an active contribution to tackling the complexity of the sustainability crisis of the current model of development, by confining their interpretation to environmental problems, but also fail to consider the social, economic and cultural aspects of a production system based on growth and the massive exploitation of natural resources".
What Happens and What the Media Says
According to the results of the study, the news agenda that the media developed regarding the Summit in Bali focused on scientific evidence of the global dimensions of climate change, the fact that its potentially devastating effects could be immediate and its anthropogenic nature. However, according to the researchers, this agenda "avoided addressing the real reasons behind the political argument in detail, by means of a narrative strategy in which dramatising conflicts, threats and delays regarding CO2 quotas prevailed," becoming the top priority for the Bali Summit.
However, Lorente adds, "the emphasis the media placed on scientific evidence regarding the human nature of the causes for climate change was not linked to citizens' sphere of activity, despite fact that their everyday decisions and behaviour - transport, energy saving, recycling - account for 20% of the problem".
According to the research by the UBC, alarmist and catastrophist news focusing on the risk of natural disasters and the urgency of political and economic action "places the emphasis on the heroic efforts of abstract and distant individuals whose motives are not always clear". This approach, they say, appears to lack references to or be based on citizen's everyday life.
Furthermore, the prominence of the eco-efficient approach (based on expectations that techno-scientific development is enough to mitigate the effects of climate change) results in the media not covering the debate in connection with the social, economic and cultural model that citizens are willing to assume and share, reinforcing instead, according to Lorente, the perspective that our current way of life, production and consumption is the only option available when it comes to interpreting development and sustainability."
Doomsday sells papers. Watching grass grow does not.
Wrong again ironsides I watched grass growing at one time and it sold like grass.
Not that kind of grass.
captain morgan
Quote: Originally Posted by ironsides View Post

Doomsday sells papers. Watching grass grow does not.

Doomsday gets massive gvt funding too.
Those who can lobby the best/most get funding.
They sure do.
Anyway, mean temps going up, ice ages oncoming, etc. If we don't start being more careful we'll be the cause of our own entry into the endangered species list because of all the crap we've made the planet swallow. Shrinking freshwater supplies, biodiversity dwindling, human population growing, etc. etc. etc. spells disaster eventually. Earth will simply shower us off like so much dirt and start with a new series of species.
UK Met Office and Dr. Phil Jones: “pay no attention to that man behind the curtain”

24 07 2009

For all of our UK readers, now is the time for all good citizens to come to the aid of their country (and science). The Met Office refuses to release data and methodology for their HadCRUT global temperature dataset after being asked repeatedly. Without the data and procedures there is no possibility of replication, and without replication the Hadley climate data is not scientifically valid. This isn’t just a skeptic issue, mind you, others have just a keen an interest in proving the data.
What is so bizarre is this. The FOI request by Steve McIntyre to the Met Office was for a copy of the data sent to Peter Webster. If the restrictions on the data hold for Steve McIntyre, why did they not prevent release of the data to Webster?
When asked by Warwick Hughes for this data, Dr. Jones famously replied:
Even if WMO agrees, I will still not pass on the data. We have 25 or so years invested in the work. Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it.
This is just wrong on so many levels. This isn’t state secrets, it is temperature data gathered from weather stations worldwide and the methodology of collating and processing it. Much of the weather station data is available online and live via hundreds of Internet sites, so the argument that “strict understanding by the data providers that this station data must not be publicly released” is in my opinion, bogus. You can get a list of CRU stations. Go to: and download the file: crustnsused.txt
And then look up any number of these stations on the Internet and get the data.
The fact that Hadley/Met Office repeatedly refuses to disclose the data and methodology only deepens the likelihood that there is something amiss and Hadley does not want to be caught out on it.
Dr. Jones is looking more and more like a “very bad Wizard” with each denied FOI request.
Science and scientists should demand open access to this data. If GISS can do it, why not Hadley? They share much of the same data.

UK Met Office and Dr. Phil Jones: “pay no attention to that man behind the curtain” « Watts Up With That?
Another scorcher of a day. I wish this much-touted global cooling would hit soon.
Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG View Post

Another scorcher of a day. I wish this much-touted global cooling would hit soon.

A few more months, and it will be cooling down Anna.
Oh yeah, sorry. I got caught up in the short term, localised, and slightly myopic concept of global climate.
Have you been reading Walter's RSS feed? lol
I don't even know what RSS is let alone read it. lol

I just find it extremely amusing that people will choose a small region on Earth over a very short period of time and use that as evidence against global warming when the mean temperatures over ALL the globe and over a loooooooooong period of time are still rising.
I find it amusing too...though it's far less amusing when it means that nothing get's done.
Quote: Originally Posted by Tonington View Post

it's far less amusing when it means that nothing get's done.

When nothing "gets done", it's a victory for liberty and common sense.
Common sense is to avoid crapping where you eat. Polluting is not liberating.
And common sense told us that the universe was geocentric and Earth was flat, too.
Some liberty when biodiversity is sliding into the crapper, human population keeps growing as Earth's fresh water supply dwindles, etc. Yep, It'll be heavenly.

"Welcome to our restaurant, Sir. We've done away with the menu because there's only humans and cockroaches left alive. You can have your choice of boiled, fried, fricaseed, roasted, or BBQed cockroach.
Oh, sorry, I understand we've just deleted the boiled cockroach from the list because of the lack of palatable water".
Common sense is knowing that CO2 is not a pollutant.
And GOOD sense tells a few people that ANYTHING in overabundance is a pollutant. And I don't need big, fat letters to get my point across. lmao
Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG View Post

I don't need big, fat letters to get my point across. lmao

Glad you have 20/20; I don't.
I use cheaters for reading.
Last edited by AnnaG; Jul 24th, 2009 at 08:24 PM..
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Glad you have 20/20; I don't.

You haven't figured out how to zoom in with your browser? Press Ctrl and then the + button to zoom in with Firefox. If you use Internet Explorer, switch to Firefox.
Works if you have a wheel on your mouse, too. CTRL and up wheel for increase resolution or CTRL and downwheel to decrease.
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Common sense is knowing that CO2 is not a pollutant.

No, this is delusion. There is a difference.
CO2 is a delusion not a pollutant?
I'm sure someone would agree to that.
I know I was just pulling your leg a bit. lol Putting a littlwe spin on your comment, so to speak.
Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG View Post

I know I was just pulling your leg a bit. lol Putting a littlwe spin on your comment, so to speak.

Oh I know. It's part of that sad thing I said earlier...even when it's funny.

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