Secret of Space: Nasa 's biggest secret


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There are creatures that live in outer space (now don't get all finicky) watch the video

Secret of Space: NASA 's biggest secret [p1]

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Secret of Space: NASA 's biggest secret [p2]

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Secret of Space: Nasa 's biggest secret [p3]
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UFO Sovereignty Over Air Space: A Defense Intelligence Problem, ~1976 (949k)
(replica followed by original)
Believed to be written by the Office of Scientific Intelligence in 1976, this seven page photocopied onionskin document is titled UFO Sovereignty Over Air Space: A Defense Intelligence Problem. The document is signed by LCR � the initials of an astronomer attached to the CIA�s Office of Scientific Intelligence in the 1970�s. LCR talks about the way in which UFOs have violated U.S. airspace on numerous occasions; the way in which Top Secret UFO data has been withheld from elected leaders by the CIA; the recovery of a crashed UFO in New Mexico in 1947 by the Armed Forces Special Weapons Project; the fear of a nuclear confrontation with the Soviets being prompted by UFO radar tracks; President John F. Kennedy�s involvement in the UFO controversy; UFOs and the Cuban missile crisis of 1962; and LCR�s initiative to begin reintroducing presidential briefings on the UFO subject. The discussion of organizational slowdowns, denied information and management dilemmas are typical of bureaucracies, irrespective of topic. Such references in the discussion are consistent with a pragmatic working document, not for sensationalism or public melodrama.



Unidentified Flying Object Implication for Nation Security and Human Survival, December 1976 (390k)
(replica followed by original)
This paper is an Executive Briefing for the Director of Central Intelligence titled: Unidentified Flying Object Implication for Nation Security and Human Survival. LCR reveals that between 1946 and 1955 he was tasked with preparing information on UFOs and the U.S. Intelligence community that was published in a 1956 book written by him, published by the CIA and titled Central Intelligence, UFOs, and National Security. It reveals the surprising fact that many secret documents concerning UFO encounters at Los Alamos and the White Sands Missile Range in the period 1944-1949 were destroyed and also reveals how this caused problems in trying to evaluate the true picture from a historical perspective. The paper also touches upon the CIA�s role in espionage and UFO investigations, and LCR�s examination of the CIA�s historical UFO studies.


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Edward Teller's Pitch to President Reagan for SDI, ~1980s (486k)
In this five-page double-spaced memo written for President Reagan�s approval, Dr. Edward Teller clearly shows his familiarity with the UFO subject and its threat to National Security. It opens with a gripping sentence, "I wish to bring to your attention a very real and dangerous situation that threatens not only us, the world, but our very existence as a race." It goes on to state, "No longer can the United States be in the position which it found itself in 1947. This was realized in January 1950 when President Truman made a decision to go ahead with a defense program exceeding in scope and cost of the Manhattan Project." What could this have been? The only logical conclusion is that it was a massive effort to exploit the celestial gifts as FDR recommended in his 24 February 1944 Double Top Secret Memo to the Special Committee on Non-Terrestrial Science and Technology.


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UFO Technology and the Imbalance of Power by Edward Teller, ~1980s (677k)
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Another fascinating paper, titled UFO Technology and the Imbalance of Power, is attributed to Edward Teller and is a five-page photocopy of onionskin paper. It goes into great detail about the nature of official secrecy and the benefits and the hazards of secrecy both in the Cold War and in the present day. Teller proposes that official secrecy surrounding UFOs should be lessened for three prime reasons: (a) to stimulate research in the field of military applications of UFO technology; (b) to promote cooperation between the USA and its allies around the world on the UFO issue; and (c) to inform the U.S. public of "the true state of UFO reality." Teller also proposes that the majority of classified UFO documents should be declassified. In addition, Teller discusses the use of UFO technology integrated into the U.S. military�s remotely piloted vehicle (RPV) program and maintaining an adequate defense against "UFO nuclear weapons."
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Aquarius Teletype, 17 November 1990 (190k)
It is believed that this is a retyped Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI) document that Bill Moore received. Although the focus of the controversy is around the Aquarius project, Paul Bennewitz, and the film that is discussed in the document, the comment about MJ - TWELVE is secondary and off hand to the whole teletype. There is an excellent 8 page write up from International UFO Reporter (IUR) about the authenticity of this document which can be downloaded from the Authentication section.
<A href="http://www.majesticdocuments.com/images/aquarius_briefing.jpg"> Aquarius Briefing Document, undated (cover page only)
This eleven page document is the product of Bill Moore's photography in some obscure East Coast hotel room according to his story. The content is fascinating but difficult to check; mentions of the ETs being from Zeta Reticuli is consistent with earlier work by Marjorie Fish. The document is being retyped for legibility. Others have studied this document in detail, we are beginning to review the literature and talk with other investigators.
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S-Aircraft Drawing and Memo by Thomas Cantwheel, 30 January 1996 (213k)
On January 30, 1996, Thomas Cantwheel wrote a two-page memo, which included a drawing of an unidentified aerodyne found July 5, 1947 south of Socorro, New Mexico by military and civilian members of the Armed Forces Special Weapons Project (AFSWP). The memo begins: �The �loaned� aircraft was acquired in 1945 from the Air Technical Services Command (ATSC, now AEDS, Air Force Systems Command). The �S� aircraft was designed from an aerodyne recovered in 1941 that crashed in southeastern Missouri and the one captured in 1942 in Louisiana. Reconstruction commenced in 1945 with the assistance of German scientists at Wright Field. Propulsion programs tried to duplicate the atomic power plant found in the aerodyne captured in Louisiana and integrated the magnetic drive system developed by Tesla� Efforts to conceal the true nature of flight operations were successful in that the AF devised a cover intelligence project called Blue Book� In 1958, Project UFO and Moon Dust were activated when the USA Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit operations ceased and CIC responsibility for UFO security was transferred to USAFOSI.�
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Handwritten Note from Salina to Tim Cooper, 5 June 1996 (36k)
This short note written on 5 June 1996 shows the link between Cantwheel (later believed to be Cantwell) and his daughter Salina; we doubt seriously that either name is real. It states that Salina�s father (Cantwell) wanted Tim Cooper to have these documents and that she worked at the CIA in Counterintelligence (CI) under Jim Angleton.
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CIA to MAJSEC � TOP SECRET JEHOVAH, November 1998 (27k)
Chronologically, this is the most recent document to cite the words TOP SECRET MAJESTIC. With hand written references to "Weird Desk and A51" this document provides a glimpse into the modern world of asset code names, and instant assignations for unauthorized disclosure. The document is rich with key phrases such as Project 'KOHTPOA,' MOD and KGB officials, Dreamland, Area 54 & 17, leaks by Teller, Sagan, China problems, and contacting'33' investors. Many of the details are checkable.
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Unidentified Flying Objects, The CIA, and Congress, Essay by Source S-1 (443k)
Source S-1 writes a memo entitled Unidentified Flying Objects, the CIA, and Congress. It opens with an interesting story of an interview with President Truman by the FBI and states: �he was asked the embarrassing question did you authorize Operation Majestic 12? To which he replied �I never gave any thought about it after leaving office.� He added, �it was not my intention when I set up the CIA would be injected into strange activities of that sort.� He was upset when the subject was brought up and it was sensed that Mr. Truman was being coy and evasive.�
The paper goes on to discuss congressional surveillance concerning the UFO issue, which came to a head in the Senate in early 1956. �The specific point at issue was whether Congress was to establish a standing Joint Committee on the CIA, similar to the joint Committee on Atomic Energy, to provide a fuller and continuing look at the United States UFO intelligence programs. The CIA�s UFO intelligence budget is concealed within the budgets of various government departments, mainly that of the Defense Department. The average member of Congress has no more knowledge than the average citizen of annual expenditures or of the size and scope CIA UFO operations...
"Ever since CIA was established, the director has been authorized, and in fact, directed to make complete disclosure of CIA UFO activities to special committees in both the Senate and House. The CIA is at times completely responsive to their questions, no matter how sensitive. For example, during the first 12 weeks as DCI Admiral William F. Raborn was called to 17 meetings with these congressional committees. The legislative log for the year 1965 shows that the DCI or his senior (sic) aides met a total of 34 times with four special subcommittees.� Additionally, there are three tabs attached to the paper that discuss arguments in favor of a joint UFO committee and arguments against it.

Important Memo from Source S-1
, 7 July 1999 (1 MB*)
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This seven page IMPORTANT letter starts "Please read everything I am about to tell you as the truth. I am not a prankster or a wacko. My reason for typing this letter is to give you the facts as I know them. I am what is called in the spy jargon a 'walk in.'" The memo is rich in detail mentioning a whole slew of code words, TRINE, UMBRA, SACRED, JEHOVAH, MAJESTIC, ZODIAC, SPIRITUAL, ENVIRONMENT and MEDEA. The memo is hard to summarize because of its varied content, but it discusses the CIA role, UFO/EBE working groups, and historical events like the JFK assassination.

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Below is a chronological listing of who received the Majestic, MAJIC, MJ-12 documents. Other lower classification related documents may also be included, if they were received with other Majestic documents. Remember these are grouped by source, in arrival order, not their document dates.
Some links do not work yet and we will do our best over the next year to expand and complete this task. By clicking on the source person or place you can read a synopsis of the current information we have and what sort of provenance research has been done by the authentication team.
Security Classification Legend:
No Mark:UnclassifiedR: RestrictedC: ConfidentialS: SecretTS: Top SecretEO: Eyes OnlyM: MajicU: UmbraUN: Unclassified


William Moore, Los Angeles (March, 1981)
  1. Aquarius Teletype (S)
  2. Aquarius Executive Briefing Teletype (TS)
Jamie Shandera � Los Angeles, California (December, 1984)
  1. Eisenhower Briefing Document (TSMEO) 7 pgs.
  2. Truman to Forrestal (TSEO) 1 p.
National Archives � College Park, Maryland
  1. Cutler Twining Memo , July 14, 1954 (TSRM) 1 p.
Don Berliner's Mailbox Alexandria Virginia (March, 1994)
Quillan Pharmacy � LaCrosse, Wisconsin
  1. Special Operations Manual � Extraterrestrial Entities And Technology, Recovery and Disposal (TSMEO, R on cover page) 23 pgs.
Timothy S. Cooper, Big Bear Lake, California (1992�present)
Legionnaire
  1. Air Accident Report (TSEOM) 4 pgs.
Former CIA Archivist
  1. Marilyn Monroe Document (TS) 1 p.
Cantwheel � Retired Army Counterintelligence (1993�1996)
  1. Marshall to President Truman (TSMEO) 1 p.
  2. Hillenkoetter Memo for the Military Assessment of the Joint Intelligence Committee (TSEO) 1 p.
  3. Marshall to Humelsine , 27 September 1947 (TSEO)
  4. Eisenhower to Ireland re: Archbishop Spellman (UN) 1 p.
  5. Vandenberg to Chief of Staff � Army (retyped copy) (UN) 1 p.
  6. Flying Saucer Analytical Report for General Cabell (TSEOM) 2 pgs.
  7. CWO Marcrau to Commanding General Army Air Forces with Cantwheel comments (retyped, C) 1 p.
  8. General Grow to Twining � Preliminary Results of Post-mortem Examination of the Air Accident Report (C) 2 pgs.
  9. Lt. Col. Tucker to Office of Air Surgeon � Analysis of Factors Contributing to "Pilot-Error" Experiences in Operating Experimental Aircraft Controls (retyped copy) (UN) 1 p.
  10. S- Aircraft Drawing and Memo by Thomas Cantwheel (UN) 2 pgs.
  11. Marshall to President Truman , Sept. 24, 1947 (S) 1 p.
  12. Memo for General Spaatz , with Cantwheel comments (retyped copy) (UN) 1 p.
  13. Majestic Twelve Project 1st Annual Report Panel (TSM) 1 p.
  14. Hillenkoetter to Director JIOA, 27 Sept. 1950 (S) 1 p.
  15. MJ-12 Project Purpose and Table of Contents � Not for Public Inspection (R) 1 p.
  16. Annual Report Summer 1952 with Annexes (TS) 16 pgs.
  17. Counter Intelligence Corps/Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit Intelligence Assessment , 22 July 1947 � (TS Ultra, later M) 7 pgs.
  18. CIA Office of Scientific Intelligence � Analysis of the Corona and Oscura Peak, NM Wreckage of Unidentified Lenticular Aerodyne Technology (TS Blacked Out)
  19. Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit Field Order (TS) 1 p.
  20. JFK to Director CIA (TS) 1 p.
  21. Kennedy memo on Declassification review of UFO files (TS)
  22. Cantwheel to Cooper � Trust No One Completely (UN) 1 p.
Salina � daughter of Cantwheel (June, 1996)
  1. Salina to Cooper Handwritten Note , "At my father's request..." (UN) 1 p.
  2. White Hot � Mission Assessment of Recovered Lenticular Aerodyne Objects (TSEMO) 19 pgs.
  3. Directive to Twining from Eisenhower (TS) 1 p.
  4. Directive to Twining from Truman (TSEO) 1 p.
  5. Einstein � Oppenheimer Relationships With Inhabitants of Celestial Bodies (TS) 6 pgs.
  6. Twining to LeMay � Meteorological R&D Memo
  7. Twining to President Truman � Not for Public Inspection (no classification shown) 1 p.
  8. Hillenkoetter to Truman � �Majic� Black Book Summaries
  9. Col. Rothrock Status of Project Twinkle � Confidential
  10. Chidlaw to Commander Holloman AFB � Project Grudge � Restricted
  11. Project White Shot � Watson, McCoy � Intelligence Report (TS, retyped copy) 1 p.
  12. Majestic Annual Report � Annex C Fragment (M) 1 p.
  13. "Nature of Survey" Fragment , 1955 � Analysis of first hundred publications in AFSA UFO Intelligence Reports Codeword. 1 p.
  14. FDR to Van Bush � Handwritten note
Central Intelligence Agency � Alleged FOIA Release
  1. JOIA 1412 Memo dated 12 April 1949 (TSM) 1 p.
Source S-1
  1. 44 - 3� x 5� photos of Documents
  2. July 1999 Photo Drop � 76 pictures, craft, backchannels, autopsy & documents
  3. IMPORTANT Memo From S-1
  4. �An Encyclopedia of Flying Saucers� by Vernon Bowen , (front matter), last dated 1960, 5 pp. Original paper, first page with classification stamps in red. (TSM)
  5. Source S-1 to Cooper: "Burned Memo" Cover Letter 1 p.
  6. Original 9-page �Burned� Memo (S) 9 pgs.
  7. Isotope Thermal Thrusters and Applications: ASTIA 28710 (TSM)
  8. Truman to Secretary of Defense (TS)
  9. Operations Review: The MJ-12 Project by Allen W. Dulles (TS)
  10. "Unidentified Flying Objects, The CIA, and Congress" Essay by Source S-1
  11. Authority of Director of Central Intelligence Clarified (responsibility of CIA in collecting UFO intelligence)
  12. Edward Teller's Pitch to President Reagan for SDI
Source S-2
Index of Documents from 16 September, 1999
The following documents are listed in no particular order:
  1. �DIA Organization, Mission and Key Personnel,� March 1981 (original copy, with red-orange cover) DRS-2600-926-81. This provides complete mission and products statements for each organization in the DIA and also the signatures of about 40 department heads approving the organization charts. Two initials and last names are listed for all personnel. 65 pgs.
  2. �DIA Organization, Mission and Key Personnel,� October 1981 (69 pp.) (original) copy. DRS-2600-926B-81. This is a revision of the previously published March report, but with only 19 organizations shown. Signatures as before. 69 pgs.
  3. Notes for Correspondence Subcourse SC 816, �Psychological Operation (PSYOP) Media. Seven lessons for a total of 20 credit hours. From the US Army Institute for Military Assistance, Sept. 1977. Pencil marking on some of the pages. 57 pgs.
  4. 352nd CA command organization, dated 1 March 1980. Org chart showing four PSYOP units. 1 p.
  5. One page handwritten of Subcourse Numbers and titles for PSYOP courses. Shows 847, PSYOP Resources and Force Structure; 289, Intro to Internal Defense/Internal Development; 812, Social Science Fundamentals (understanding your target, the individual, social groups and institutions, social communications of change; 814, PSYOP Planning and Development, and 813, PSYOP Intel and Analysis, collection, target analysis and campaign control, and propaganda analysis. This last course also has written in with the same handwriting as elsewhere, �PSYOP UFO Countermeasures and Propaganda (I Intel collection; II Media contact/fact sheets; III Force Command/NMCC. This is followed by �PSYOP UFO Disinformation (I Forgery/Documents, II unstated, III Tabloid Contacts, and IV Script Writing. This is followed by �DIA/CIA/NSA Courses.� 1 p.
  6. Three-ring black binder (2-inch size) containing 400 pages labeled �Correspondence Subcourse of the U.S. Army Institute for Military Assistance,� SC 847 March 77. This is followed by Correspondence Subcourse 812, which is followed by Correspondence Subcourse 814, followed by Correspondence Subcourse 813, followed by Correspondence Subcourse 815, followed by numerous appendices. 400 pgs.
  7. �Information Security Program Regulation,� DoD 5200.1-R in four parts, Nov 73. This 150-page document provides detailed information about security procedures for the Department of Defense. 50 pgs.
  8. �Civil Affairs Operations,� Dept of Army Field Manual FM 41-10, October 1969, up to section L. Cover has notation �Al Gilley� and �UFO Contingency/Training Course� in a different hand. 100 pgs.
  9. �Iran: Executive and Congressional Reaction and Roles,� Issue Brief No. IB80001 by Loventhal and Collier, a few pages, Feb 1980. Deals with the history of the Iran hostage events. 5 pgs.
  10. �CS/CSS (Combat Support/Combat Service Support) Operations, Chapter 7,� Logex 79, Vol. IV, Civil-Military Cooperation/Psyop, 11 pgs.
  11. �Guide to Military Space Operations,� C. Richard Whelan, 1986. Annotated �UFO/SDI Program� on cover page. 154 pgs.
  12. �A Systematic Review of 'Commando' (Special Operations) 1939-1980,� Luttwak, Canby, and Thomas, 4 parts, both sides. Printed on both sides, but reverse is printed upside down. Punched for spiral binding. This would have been a reject. Unclassified. Contains fascinating true stories of dozens of events of covert activity. Unquestionably authentic. Prepared by C&L Associates, defense consultants. Marked �Final Report.� 350 pgs.
  13. �U.S. Foreign Policy Objectives and Overseas Military Installations,� US Govt. Printing Office, No. 35-995-O, April 1979. This is a product of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations. 121 pgs.
  14. Extract from FM 33-5, Chapter 7 (1974), �Roles and Missions of Psychological Operations Teams (TOE 33-500H) This copy identifies the functions of 28 PSYOP teams in the PSYOP organization, and reveals the tip of a huge iceberg of psychological warfare. Targets are not identified. 6 pgs.
  15. �Eighteen Dilemmas of Oil Vulnerability,� Robert Axelrod, Institute of Public Policy Studies Discussion Paper # 161, University of Michigan, February 1981, 16 pgs.
  16. �The Soviet Army, Operations and Tactics,� FM 100-2-1, HQ U.S. Army, 16 July 1984. This is a detailed description of the procedures and tactics used in battlefield scenarios. Original cover with red print on olive green cover. 300 pgs.
  17. �Tracking and Command of Aerospace Vehicles,� IAS (Institute of Aerospace Sciences) National Symposium, Feb 19-21, 1962, San Francisco, California. 140 pgs.
  18. �A Response to Hermann Eilts' 'Security Considerations in the Persian Gulf'�, from �Point/Counterpoint, from �International Security (Spring 1981 pages 186-203), printed in AF/DoD �Current News, Special Edition, 3 November 1981, No. 776. At the upper right, there is �Joe S� in pencil, and at the right there is �Jeff� in pencil. 9 pgs.
  19. �Exposing the Libyan Link,� New York Times Magazine article by Seymour M. Hersh, later than 1979 such as 1980 or 81. A number of phrases are underlined. 11 pgs.
  20. Four small (4-8 pages each) �Background Notes� publications by the Department of State on (South) Yemen, January 1977; (North) Yemen, June 1977; Kuwait, December 1977, and Oman, August 1978. 24 pgs.
  21. �International Boundary Study, �Publication No. 164, Iran-Iraq, Department of State, Bureau of International Relations and Research, 8 pgs.
  22. �The Soviet Nuclear Threat Towards the Close of the Yom Kippur War,� from The Jerusalem Journal of International Relations Vol. 5, No. 1, 1980, published by Air Force/DoD Current News Special Edition, dated August 27, 1981, No. 752. 5 pgs.
  23. �Saudi Arabia Faces the 1980s: Saudi Security Problems and American Interests,� Lincoln P. Bloomfield Jr., from The Fletcher Forum, Summer 1981, pages 243-277, published by AF/DoD �Current News� Special Edition dated January 20, 1982, No. 806. 35 pgs.
  1. None of the above publications bore any classification stamps, marks, or indication of classification; not even �for official use only.� This pile of material was retained by Tim Cooper, and was about eight inches thick. The bound booklets were mostly printed on both sides.
    This was approximately one-half of the material. The other material was given to R.M. Wood for selective copying and subsequent return to Cooper. This inventory follows:
  2. From CIA to MAJSEC, Message classified TOP SECRET JEHOVAH dated R 1411123Z Nov 98 (14 Nov 98, 1:23AM Zulu time?), in standard envelope (TSM) 1 p.
  3. "Summary of NICAP Cases,� stamped �Tentative Secret, Forward to MAJCOM� from Blue Book Files, undated. 10 pgs.
  4. �The UFO Evidence,� published by NICAP, classified CIA copy Project UFO, stamped top and bottom of each page, �TOP SECRET� in blue (9 pt block type) and �TENTATIVE SECRET, FORWARD TO MAJCOM,� two lines in black (10 pt type) Pages occasionally have the word �CONFIRMATION� in blue (26 pt type) on various cases. This copy is marked �File copy No. 25.� 184 pgs.
  5. �NSA Intercept of the �Hot Line�, COMSEC file dated 11/12/63 from OOTP to PUSSR, Subj.: UFO Working Groups . Retyped in manila folder labeled �TS UMBRA/UFOs� (TSU) 3 pgs.
  6. �Memorandum for Chief of Staff of the Army� from �F.D.R.� dated February 27, 1942 , classified TOP SECRET. Restroked in manila folder labeled �TS FDR LETTER� (TS) 1 p.
  7. �Unidentified Aircraft Sightings Over the United States,� Intelligence Estimate , prepared by Special Studies and Evaluation State-War-Navy Coordinating Committee and Office of National Estimates, with TS Contrl No. 7300405 NSA Authority, September 30, 1947, Retyped in manila folder labeled �IE 9/30/47� (TSEO) 5 pgs.
  8. �Communist Propaganda Charging United States with the Use of BW in Korea,� CIA/SI 29-51 Information Report, NARA file number 834021, approved for release 7 Nov 1985, dtd 20 August 1951. Restroked in manila folder labeled �CIA BW,� 6 pgs.
  9. Letter from Hillenkoetter to Menzel , CIA COPY, TOP SECRET markings by hand in red top and bottom, contents innocuous, note of copies to Boyd, Wellman, Hillenkoetter, and Keyhoe dated 10/27/65, letter dated September 19, 1963, 1 p.
  10. Listing of �Scientific personnel of the Metallurgical Lab, Chicago. Approximately 70 names (usually First, Initial, Last) including Robert S. Mulliken (sp?), Eugene P. Wigner, Leo Szilard. July 17, 1947. Judged original paper from the era. 3 pgs.
  11. �Memorandum for Military Director, Scientific Activity Board,� Subject. Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs), five paragraphs transmitting AF Regulation 200-2, requesting a review panel, Sep 28 1985, Mimeographed. 1 p.
  12. Letter from James H. Aikman, Lt Colonel, USAF Community Relations Division, formally announces termination of Project Blue Book. No date, but alludes to December 17, 1969 as announcement date for termination of Project Blue Book. Mimeographed. 1 p.
  13. �Memorandum from V. Bush and J. B. Conant, Subject: Supplementary Memo Giving Details of Other Weapons �Water Boiler� That Produce Heat W/O Explosions., September 30, 1944, Original retype, old paper. Top Secret at top only. 1 p.
  14. Letter to Field Marshall Sir John Dill, GCB, C.M.G., DSO, Combined Chiefs of Staff alluding to the use of a TA weapon, 17 January 1944.nvw, Original retype, old paper. Secret at top only. 1 p.
  15. ALSOS Mission summary from 31 August 1944 interview from �F. J.� Listing of Germans, cyclotron, V weapons, February 22, 1945. Original retype, old paper. Secret at top only. 2 pgs.
  16. ALSOS Mission note by Dr. S. A. Goudsmit. Two sentences only, 29 October 1944. Original retype, old paper. Secret at top only. 1 p.
  17. Report of a group of Chicago scientists, �Political and social problems,� June 1945, Original retype, old paper. Top Secret at top only. 1 p.
  18. A folder labeled �Scientific Advisory Panel Recommendations,� On old Ozalid paper turned brown, first page marked �CIA Copy,� Tabs A through H, including suggested changes to AFR 200-2 and list of Private UFO Organizations. No date, but mentions cost and manpower estimates for January 1959. Secret in Red top and bottom. 18 pgs.
  19. Envelope (9x12) containing 31 typically 8x10 photos of UFOs. Descriptions on back give time, date place and explanation such as �internal reflection,� time exposure of moon,� �negative wrinkle� and the like. No reason to question conclusion in cases I looked at. Occasional written explanations or reports included. Includes two negatives. Photos in mid 50s. Photos all stamped �TENTATIVE SECRET, FORWARD TO MAJCOM. 31 pgs.
  20. Manila folder labeled �Physical Sp.� containing original Blue Book material, copies, clippings and photos. Noteworthy is first generation carbon of all photos submitted to USAF for analysis between July 6, 1947 and October 30, 1966, 4 pgs. 56 pgs. including photos and papers.
  21. One folder marked SECRET PROJECT BLUE BOOK, noted �Evaluated and Loaned to CIA, containing Blue Book notes, clippings, reports, and parts, and correspondence. Click here to view a list of the folder contents . 250 pgs.

Index of Documents from 9 October, 1999
The following items were received on 9 October 1999 by Tim Cooper from the same person who gave him the materials on 16 September 1999 (Source S-2).
There were four envelopes, which Tim Cooper marked #1, #2, #3, #4 in our presence. All four had already been marked with a stamp "received" with Tim Cooper's initials and "10/9/99." Lynda Gagliano accompanied Dr. Wood on this visit. The contents of the packages below are:
Package #1. ("Evaluated by CIA Project Blue Book, FYI/S2")
  1. Project 10073 Record, Howell, Utah dated 16 July 65, Three objects. 15 pgs.
  2. Project 10073 Record Card Report, Sioux City Iowa, 25 Oct 63. Reilly Bates Case, KC 135 refueling in area. 30 pgs.
  3. Project 10073 Record Card, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2 Oct 61, possible sun dog, 46 pgs.
Package #2. ("Evaluated by CIA Project Blue Book, FYI/S2 ")
Dozens of news clippings
Package #3. ("FYI/S2")
Dozens of news clippings
Package #4. ("FYI/S2")
  1. "White Sands History: Range Beginnings and Early Missile Testing," prepared by Eunice H. Brown, James A. Robertson, John W. Kroehnke, Charles R. Poisall, and 1st Lt. E. L. Cross, undated but covers the period of testing from 1945 through 1955. No markings or annotations. Extensive, detailed history of all flights on record with many cross-references to technical reports. 152 pgs.
  2. "Soviet Military Power, The Pentagon's Propaganda Document, Annotated and Corrected, by Tom Gervasi, Vintage Books, A Division of Random House, copyright 1987. Only mark is "FYI/ S2, STUDY THIS." 160 pgs.
Source S-3
  1. George C. Marshall to Franklin D. Roosevelt , March 1942
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hermanntrude
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if it's such a giant secret, how come it's splashed all over the internet so that morons can cross-post it all over every forum in cyberspace?
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by hermanntrude View Post

if it's such a giant secret, how come it's splashed all over the internet so that morons can cross-post it all over every forum in cyberspace?

IT AINT SPLASHED ALL OVER THE NET ,LOOK DID YOU WATCH

Secret of Space: NASA 's biggest secret [p1]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kKgCXcjDV58

I DOUBT IT
 
quandary121
#8
nasa secret photo album (Real Deal)
Photos from nasa employees
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y806FEa8AJQ

TIME TRAVEL......

SPACE CRAFT.....
MARS...
 
quandary121
#9
Are We Alone
mind opening film about N.A.S.A,ufo's and The Moon Landing

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BGHbDvRLGBE

EBE part 8
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DWmhi8GBZAE

The audio portion is from coast to coast. However this information is important enough to be included in this channel, I believe everyone should know about this. So thanks to Linda Moulton Howe (an award winning journelist) for work in gathering this information and airing it on coast to coast.
Linda Moulton Howe born January 20, 1942, in Boise, Idaho, is an American investigative journalist and documentary producer-writer-director-editor who is currently based in Albuquerque, New Mexico. She received her Masters Degree in Communication from Stanford University in 1968, where she produced a documentary film for the Stanford Medical Center and her Master's Thesis, "A Picture Calculus," at the Stanford Linear Accelerator. Linda received her 1965 B. A. cum laude in English Literature from the University of Colorado, Boulder. She has a daughter, Laura Kathleen Howe, from her 1968 to 1986 marriage to Larry W. Howe. UFO DIRECTORY::::::
ALIENS WERE EXAMINED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxF3cn...
SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMh3Cg...
300 GOVERNMENT AND MILITARY WITNESSESS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5uZ15...
FIRST ALIEN ENCOUNTER US GOVT COVERUP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zSc8M...
PICTURES OF ALIENS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP31p9...
Real UFO ON VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FeAK-...
MEET THE E.T. INTERPRETER FOR THE U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1crfRp...
HISTORY OF UFOS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai8KeN...
UFO; UNCOVERING A NATIONAL SECRET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zh4M9...
U.S. Hiding Alien Spacecraft And Alien Beings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NPhKW...
A LOOK AT THE ALIENS WAY UP CLOSE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtQ-aB...
UFO DOCUMENTARIES
Out OF THE BLUE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5JOP_...
UFOS THE HIDDEN TRUTH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gCtj7...
FASTWALKERS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOVonI...
UFOS THE GREATEST STORY EVER DENIED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXPxlL...
Riddle In The Skies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LpQB8...
SECRET SPACE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVbR6B...
SHAG HARBOUR UFO INCIDENT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbEw6H...
BACK ENGINEERING A UFO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxKVg2...
CHINA'S ROSWELL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RWDIr...
LARRY KING LIVE WITH ARIZONA GOV. AND MORE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgqb3F...

ABDUCTEE TESTIMONY
BETTY BARNEY HILL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7UEQQ...
TRAVIS WALTON FIRE IN THE SKY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejyr0q...
AUSTRALIAN HIGHWAY ENCOUNTER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On5xIH...
PRESIDENT TRUMAN ADMITS UFOS ARE HERE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjQvMi...
ASTRONUAT SEES UFO LAND AND TAKE OFF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_usx9...
FINAL PROOF CROP CIRCLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHzlfp...
FIRST REAL UFO BATTLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjPow1...
UFO PILOT AIRTRAFFIC CONTROL UFO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c_1mY...
QUANTUM PHYSICS OF UFO TRAVEL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wnk6F...
HANDHELD SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMdEMd...
The TRUTH ABOUT ROSWELL FINALLY REVEALED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5ybfg...
62 KIDS ENCOUNTER UFOS AND ALIENS BEINGS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctimRp...
The Days Of The Lives Of The Abducted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUIoFM...
Visit A True Alien Graveyard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuP60G...
UFO MUSEUM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4uTcv...
STEREOGRAMS ALIENS UFO PICS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFDFrU...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0STMHn...
1952 UFO WAVE Largest Wave of all Time FACTUAL OBSERVATION DATA:
http://www.nicap.org/waves/1952fullre...
dir 2
 
darkbeaver
#10
Wow Quandry that's a lot of information but I'm happy someone provides lots of alternatives to consider, and you do a very nice service to those of us who don't necessarily know where to look, thanks.

Myself I believe in the others just because it's a freaking big onionverse crammed with life of all manner. We humans for the most part don't even know the life under our feet. The secrets will catch the masters out soon enough I think, then we'll have new times and new tunes. Ain't history grand?
 
quandary121
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

Wow Quandry that's a lot of information but I'm happy someone provides lots of alternatives to consider, and you do a very nice service to those of us who don't necessarily know where to look, thanks.

Myself I believe in the others just because it's a freaking big onionverse crammed with life of all manner. We humans for the most part don't even know the life under our feet. The secrets will catch the masters out soon enough I think, then we'll have new times and new tunes. Ain't history grand?

no worrys darkbeaver the cut and paste kid knows lots of secrets ..lol
 
quandary121
#12
try typing in majestic 12 and see what hits the fan.......
 
quandary121
#13
http://www.ofesite.com/hangar51/incr...ries/maj12.htm
is worth a look
 
quandary121
#14
Mr. Autopsy
Ray Santilli's personal account of how he got the alien autopsy.
Who is Ray Santilli, you ask? Why, he is the man who "found" the alien autopsy footage that you see so often on the FOX Network (Jonathan Frakes deserves better work). Is the footage real? Well, upon interviewing Industrial Light and Magic for the FOX's Autopsy Special, they admitted that if it is fake, the effects are pretty darn good, and perhaps better than they could do. Still, one must question the horrible camera work -- The camera man manages to capture an excellent view of a doctor's back during a critical, not to mention technically difficult, procedure in the autopsy. Obviously the easiest way to fudge a special effect is to not show it at all. And we must keep in mind what Ray Santilli has to gain (MONEY!) from this "historical" footage.


Here is Ray Santilli's personal account of how he came to obtain the controversial recording of the alien autopsy.


"My story was a result of research into film material for a music documentary. I was in Cleveland Ohio USA in the summer of 1993. Whilst there I had identified some old film material taken by Universal News in the summer of 1955. As Universal News no longer existed and I needed the film to investigate the source of the film and was able to determine that the film was shot by then a local freelance cameraman. He had been employed by Universal News because of a Film union strike in the summer of 1955.

"The cameraman was located, following which a very straight forward negotiation took place for his small piece of film i.e.: cash for three minutes of film. Upon completion of this the cameraman asked if I would be interested in purchasing outright very valuable footage taken during his time in the forces. He explained that the footage in question came from the Roswell crash that it included debris and recovery footage and of most importance autopsy footage.

"At this time I had no knowledge whatsoever of the Roswell event, but when someone tells you they have real footage of an Alien autopsy, of course its of interest.

"The cameraman was in his eighties seemed a genuine enough person, he explained that from 1942 to 1952 he worked as a cameraman for the Army Airforce and special forces, that during this time he was sent to many places and filmed many events including the tests that were part of the Manhattan Project (Atomic bomb testing White Sands).



"He explained that on June 2nd 1947 he received an order directly from General Mc Mullan stating there had been a crash and to go immediately to White Sands and film everything he could. He was instructed to stay with the material recovered until it was dispatched, further he had authority over and above the on-site commander. The cameraman only reported to McMullan.


"The cameraman flew to Roswell, then was taken by road to the site he describes as being a dried up small lake bed.


"After hearing the story I was taken to the cameraman's house and viewed the footage. The cameraman had one reel of film that he was able to show on an old projector. He moved the projector over to a wall and projected the image on the wall itself.


"The footage was and is quite incredible, from his house I telephoned Kodak to ask their advice in checking the film. I was given the codes which corresponded with the codes on the film.

"I quickly confirmed a cash offer subject to further checks and the cameraman accepted. I said I would require a few days and a small sample of the film to take back. The cameraman gave me around two feet of leader from the film itself which I brought back to the UK.
"Unfortunately raising the money needed became a problem and a few days turned into a few weeks, then a few months. This was made all the more difficult because the cameraman needed money for a family wedding. By now the cameraman was becoming very nervous and refused to take my calls. Each time I called, his wife would simply take a message. The story stops there until November of 1994 when with the money in hand I flew over without warning and tried; this time I succeeded.



"My impression of the cameraman is that he is totally genuine, he is an ordinary person who never really made a great deal of money in his life, has been married to the same woman for over 50 years and seems as stable as you could wish. I had the opportunity of going through his many old photo albums, his film collection, and personal papers. I am certain that the cameraman was everything he claims.


"I came away with 22 reels of film, 21 safety prints and one negative."


-- Ray Santilli


So, what do you think? This personal account was taken from Roswell Centre, where not only can you learn more about Roswell and Ray's harrowing adventures, but acquire an "uncut" copy of the footage (for 35 pounds, of course). In addition -- I chose not to edit the text. This is the text as it was written, and any grammatical errors were those made by an amatuer (I hope you understand what I'm implying ... ).

 
quandary121
#15
http://www.ufocasebook.com/documents.html

Those who see the UFO phenomena as a hoax always ask, "If these things are real, where is the proof?" Well, if the Majestic 12 are real, as some suppose, here is the proof. What are the Majestic 12 documents, anyway? These documents were left on the doorstep of researcher Jamie Shandera by a source as yet to be determined.

Working with associate Bill Moore, these two men toiled to find the truth about Majestic 12. These documents have been published before in "Uninvited Guests," by Richard Hall, and "Crash at Corona," by Stanton Friedman and Don Berlinger in 1992.
These pages, if authentic, contain vital evidence about the existence of UFOs and extra-terrestrial beings. Take the time to look through these, and I am sure your interest will be peaked. Page 2 gives the names of the "12," page "3" gives information on the Roswell crash, and page "6" is a memo from Harry Truman to James Forrestal.
(Click on text link to view document)
Document 1 Document 2 Document 3 Document41 Document 5 Document 6

Majestic 12 Members

Top Row, L to R... Dr. Lloyd Berkner, Dr. D. W. Bronk, Dr. Vannevar Bush, Sec. James Forrestal
Middle Row L to R...
Gordon Gray, Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter. Dr. Jerome Hunsaker, Dr. Donald H. Menzel
Bottom Row L to R...
General Robert Montague, Sidney Souers, General Nathan Twining, General Hoyt Vandenburg
 
quandary121
#16
Case Files-Documents

UFO Case Files-Photographic and Video Cases

http://www.ufocasebook.com/photovideo.html
 
quandary121
#17
This is the traditional method of describing an event as a distant or close encounter of the first, second or third kind. The investigator should be aware that, unless the case report can reasonably rule out natural and man-made sources, the HYNEK rationale declares it to be a non-case, and so no value is given. HYNEK -
DE-1 - Nocturnal Light
DE-2 - Daylight Disc
DE-3 - Radar-visual
CE-1 - Light/object in Proximity
CE-2 - Physical Trace
CE-3 - Occupant
UFO reports differ in many details. But there are a number of similarities that recur in such features as shape, maneuverability, appearance, disappearance, sound and color. There are several basic observational categories into which sighting reports may be classified.
A. Relatively Distant Sightings
1. Noctunal Lights. These are sightings of well-defined lights in the night sky whose appearance amd/or motion are not explainable in terms of conventional light sources. The lights appear most often as red, blue, orange or white. They form the largest group of UFO reports.
2. Daylight Discs. Daytime sightings are generally of oval or dis- shaped, metallic-appearing objects. They can appear high in the sky or close to the ground, and they are often reported to hover. They can seem to disappear with astounding speed.
3. Radar-Visual cases. Of special significance are unidentified "blips" on radar screens that coincide with and confirm simultaneous visual sightings by the same or other witnesses. These cases are infrequent.
B. Relatively Close Sightings (within 200 yards)
1. Close Encounters of the First Kind (CE-I). Though the witness observes a UFO nearby, there appears to be no interaction with either the witness or the environment.
2. Close Encounters of the Second Kind (CE-II). These encounters include details of interaction between the UFO and the environment which may vary from interference with car ignition systems and electronic gear to miprints or burns on the ground and physical effects on plants, animals and humans.
3. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (CE-III). In this category, occupants of a UFO - entities that are human-like ("humanoid") or not humanlike in apearance - have been reported. There is usually no direct contact or communication with the witness. However, in recent years, reports of incidents involving very close contact - even detainment of witnesses - have increased.
The Kinds of Evidence
In addition to eyewitness reports, scientific evidence for the presence of something very unusual falls in these categories:
1. Physical Traces. Compressed and dehydrated vegetation, broken tree branches, and imprints in the ground have all been reported. Sometimes a soil sample taken from an area where a UFO had been seen close to the ground will be determined, through laboratory analysis, to have undergone heating or other chemical changes not true of control sample.
2. Medical Records. Medical verification of burns, eye inflammations, temporary blindness, and other physiological effects attributed to encounters with UFOs - even the healing of previous conditions - can also constitute evidence, especially when no other cause for the effect can be determined by the medical examiner.
3. Radarscope Photos. A tape of traces from a radar screen on which a "blip" of a UFO is appearing is a powerful adjunct to a visual sighting, because it can be studied at leisure instead of during the heat of the moment of the actual sighting.
4. Photographs. While it might seem that photographs would be the best evidence for UFOs, this has not been the case. Hoaxes can be exposed very easily. But even those photos that pass the test of instrumented analysis and/or computer enhancement often show nothing more than an object of unknown nature, usually some distance from the camera, and very often out of focus. For proper analysis of a photo, the negative must be available and the photographer, witnesses and circumstances must be known. In a few exceptional cases, photos do exist that have been thoroughly examined and appear to show a structured craft.
source:
Dr. J. Allen Hynek http://www.ufocasebook.com/Hynek.html

 
I think not
#18
And the purpose of keeping these Space Serpents a secret is?
 
darkbeaver
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by I think not View Post

And the purpose of keeping these Space Serpents a secret is?

Maybe that's the way they want it. I wouldn't be in a hurry to get all chummy with barbaric earth trash unless I had a space tazer.
 
scratch
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

Maybe that's the way they want it. I wouldn't be in a hurry to get all chummy with barbaric earth trash unless I had a space tazer.

I'm with you to the end of the line.
 
Dexter Sinister
#21
What preposterous crap, but hardly a surprise. The forces of irrationality and stupidity know no limits, and there's been a depressingly large influx of them on this board lately.
 
Lester
#22
Well , so we all don't sh*t our pants. There are dozens of earth like planets within spittin distance of us (cosmologicaly speaking if you could spit forty light years) i'm on the fence , can't say there are , can't say there aren't
 
quandary121
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by I think not View Post

And the purpose of keeping these Space Serpents a secret is?

because NASA does not wish us to know about contacts that have already taken place
did you watch the


Secret of Space: NASA 's biggest secret [p1]


Quote: Creatures in space
Space Serpents
NASA Secret Space
Serpents
UFO
alien flying Saucers
Paranormal
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kKgCXcjDV58

Secret of Space: NASA 's biggest secret [p2]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-9zg4_Ql-78

Secret of Space: NASA 's biggest secret [p3]
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RdPzqOKsZww

in its entirety if so look at

nasa secret photo album (Real Deal)
Photos from nasa employees
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y806FEa8AJQ

TIME TRAVEL......

SPACE CRAFT.....
MARS...
 
quandary121
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister View Post

What preposterous crap, but hardly a surprise. The forces of irrationality and stupidity know no limits, and there's been a depressingly large influx of them on this board lately.


you are a buffoon Dexter Sinister, so any info i give you will be disregarded by you ,so apart from giving us your opinion, which i may add is not needed here,take your doubting mind else where, until such time as you have a comment worthy of my attention, if not shut it . regardless of what you may think to be relevant in the forums, i see very few of your own, do you go around dismissing others threads because your not smart enough to make one of your own ,or is it because your so senile that the alzheimer's is set in too far, and you are UN able to have a rational thought with out all your cynicism.????
 
quandary121
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister View Post

What preposterous crap, but hardly a surprise. The forces of irrationality and stupidity know no limits, and there's been a depressingly large influx of them on this board lately.


you are a buffoon Dexter Sinister, so any info i give you will be disregarded by you ,so apart from giving us your opinion, which i may add is not needed here,take your doubting mind else where, until such time as you have a comment worthy of my attention, if not shut it . regardless of what you may think to be relevant in the forums, i see very few of your own, do you go around dismissing others threads because your not smart enough to make one of your own ,or is it because your so senile that the alzheimer's is set in too far, and you are UN able to have a rational thought with out all your cynicism.????
 
Zan
#26
Quandary - Dexter has been a long time contributor to this forum. If you do a search of his posts you'll find he does his research and provides a wealth of knowledge to many many discussions here.
 
mabudon
#27
HAHA ITN that was quite a payoff for scrolling down this far LMAO well played Sir
 
quandary121
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by Zan View Post

Quandary - Dexter has been a long time contributor to this forum. If you do a search of his posts you'll find he does his research and provides a wealth of knowledge to many many discussions here.

sorry zan but all he ever does is sprout dissent, in all of my threads he does not look at the stuff i post, or discuss any thing about them in any way, all he does is say things like
Quote:

What preposterous crap, but hardly a surprise. The forces of irrationality and stupidity know no limits

does this add any of this mans supposed knowledge, no it is just trolling and if you want my opinion on this sort of behaviour i would rather he kept his comments to himself ,Ive posted many links here and for this man to say that it is all preposterous crap, with out anything to prove it is, or show that it is ,then this is just his biased opinion, which he is entitled too, but why should i have to listen to it,just because he does not like me,and has a grudge, he does the same sort of thing in China's threads ,there is no debating with his obviously closed mind.
 
Dexter Sinister
#29
Quandary, I've posted links to real science sites in some of your threads that properly explain your errors--the Planet X/Nibiru thread comes to mind--and your response is inevitably the same kind of mindless name calling and vituperation. It was clear early in your history here that your life is ruled by paranoid conspiracy theories, you are scientifically illiterate, entirely too credulous, and unable to think critically. You're really not worth the trouble of knocking down anymore. Nothing you say is worth taking seriously.
 
quandary121
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister View Post

Quandary, I've posted links to real science sites in some of your threads that properly explain your errors--the Planet X/Nibiru thread comes to mind--and your response is inevitably the same kind of mindless name calling and vituperation. It was clear early in your history here that your life is ruled by paranoid conspiracy theories, you are scientifically illiterate, entirely too credulous, and unable to think critically. You're really not worth the trouble of knocking down anymore. Nothing you say is worth taking seriously.

Quote:

Sure. That was 5 years ago. It didn't show up, did it. Doesn't that tell you anything? Such as, these people have no idea what they're talking about?

Quote:

Are you telling us that Planet X DID show up in the spring of 2003 as those people believed it would? I guess every professional and amateur astronomer on the planet somehow missed that close approach, and somehow a massive gravitating object entered the inner solar system and didn't disrupt the orbit of anything already here. How is this possible, Oh Knower of All?

if this is what you call debate then your an idiot
 

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