Ontario announces FREE University tuition


mentalfloss
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Incredible!

2016 Ontario budget: Free tuition for low-income students, price increase on alcohol

TORONTO -- University and college will soon be free for low-income students in Ontario, but prices are going up on wine, tobacco, gasoline and heating for most homeowners.

The Liberal government says it's on track to eliminate a $5.7-billion deficit in the next budget largely thanks to managing program spending and fighting the underground economy, but it is hesitant to acknowledge that the partial privatization of Hydro One and a new carbon pricing system are major factors contributing to that goal.

The showcase pledge in the government's 2016-17 budget -- its ninth consecutive in the red -- is to introduce an Ontario Student Grant that would entirely pay for average college or university tuition for students from families with incomes of $50,000 or less.

Under the new program, half of students from families with incomes of $83,000 will qualify for non-repayable grants for tuition and no student will receive less than they can currently receive.

The new grant combines existing programs, and Finance Minister Charles Sousa said he hopes the new one will come at no additional cost to government.

Taxes on cigarettes are rising $3 per carton and wine prices will also rise. The minimum price for a bottle will increase to $7.95 over the next three years.

There will also be a series of increases in the Liquor Control Board of Ontario's markup on wine, starting with a two percentage point hike in June -- about 10 cents a bottle -- followed by another two points in 2017 and 2018, and a one-point hike in 2019.

There will also be annual increases of about 10 cents in the tax on international-blend wines sold in privately owned wine stores, increasing from 16.1 cents to 20.1 cents over four years.

As the government's new cap-and-trade program -- designed to lower Ontario's greenhouse gas emissions -- comes into effect next year, the price of gasoline is expected to rise 4.3 cents a litre and residential natural gas bills will increase $5.

The opposition leaders said the budget makes life less affordable for Ontarians, but Sousa defended increased costs from cap and trade.

"We can all of us have a choice," he said. "We can turn our back and let the low-carbon economy go by, it will cost us even more, or we can embrace it and find innovations in the system to enable us to succeed and compete."

The carbon-pricing scheme is now projected to generate $1.9 billion in revenue next year, up from $1.3 billion estimated a few months ago, based on a price of about $18 per tonne.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politic...ohol-1.2792076
 
petros
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Quote:

but it is hesitant to acknowledge that the partial privatization of Hydro One and a new carbon pricing system are major factors contributing to that goal.

I mean really, would you admit to jerking off the dog to feed the cat?

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Free tuition for low-income students

How many seats? Will foreign bread and butter full dollar students be turned away?
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
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#3
...an' da faeries in da garden are gonna pay fer it!
 
EagleSmack
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#4
I think we better build that wall.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

As the government's new cap-and-trade program -- designed to lower Ontario's greenhouse gas emissions --

Designed to increase government revenues so they can spend on stupid sh-it like always and not look quite so much in the red.

And they didn't acknowledge that their fire sale of Ontario Hydro is not the only reason they are this little in the red?

Total and complete incompetence. It always amazes me the stupidity of the libtard voters who put these crooks into power.

And free tuition just means that there will be less incentive for the kids to actually learn anything. Just go and have a party on taxpayer expense.
 
darkbeaver
Republican
#6
If you promotwe smart people you will? Don't muistake th3em for the ciompliantm, they ain;t, fuk

Smart people should be watched allthe time.
 
damngrumpy
No Party Affiliation
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#7
Actually post secondary education should be free base on marks
If you maintain a certain grade level its paid if you fail you pay for
the year you wasted.

The other way would be to receive your education and agree to work
for part of the value after graduation for a specific length of time in a
community for a reduced wage

Perhaps not totally free but it would provide an avenue for those who
could never afford it
 
WLDB
No Party Affiliation
+1
#8
Damn. I would have qualified for this if it had been in place when I started university. Oh well. Luck of the draw I guess. I did wind up getting 30% off during my last year though. Better than nothing.

As for increased taxes on certain products - I live in Ottawa. I can just cross the bridge to get cheap wine if I wanted to.
 
MHz
#9
What's the catch?? Only one course or something like. 'How to thrive on minimum wage without a student loan.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpy View Post

Actually post secondary education should be free base on marks
If you maintain a certain grade level its paid if you fail you pay for
the year you wasted.

The other way would be to receive your education and agree to work
for part of the value after graduation for a specific length of time in a
community for a reduced wage

Perhaps not totally free but it would provide an avenue for those who
could never afford it

That should depend on what they want to study. Engineering and medicine yes but not for stupid $hit like french literature or art history.
 
darkbeaver
Republican
#11
God save Canada,.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
#12
Mr Wynn is getting awful liberal with OPM. Must be expecting a big equalization payment this year from the fiscally responsible provinces.
 
B00Mer
No Party Affiliation
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

...an' da faeries in da garden are gonna pay fer it!

I'm starting to think the Liberals are out to absolutely destroy Canada.. spend, spend with no end in sight.. eventually somebody has to pay the bill.. we will end up like Greece..

Broke and 3rd world country.. at least the Central American countries have warm weather..

I think with need to start an inquisition and go after Liberal leaders today.. off with their heads.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Incredible!

Yes, your dishonesty is incredible. So is the level of discrimination this policy creates.
 
mentalfloss
#15
While post-secondary enrolment has increased in Ontario over the past 12 years by 38 per cent, potential students from families earning less than $30,000 have just a 38 per cent likelihood of attending college or university. That same student, if their family earned more than $100,000 each year, has a 63 per cent chance of getting a postsecondary education.

The Liberals also plan to increase the number and volume of grants and non-repayable loans for middle-class students from families earning $83,000 or less, the Ontario median total economic family income. They predict that 50 per cent of students in this income bracket will receive funding that meets or exceeds their tuition needs.


How Ontario's "Free Tuition" Proposal Would Work | politics | Torontoist
 
CDNBear
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Are you really that dishonest, that you would forward that as a rebuttal, or are you actually so stupid that you think it refutes what I said?
 
mentalfloss
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upsZZ2s3xv8
 
CDNBear
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#18
Oh oh, Flossy got called out, can't respond with anything intelligent and resorts to his predictable childish behaviour.
 
mentalfloss
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You are such an angry guy lol
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

You are such an angry guy lol

Why do you think my pointing out your dishonesty and childish behaviour has to be based on anger?

Do you think that somehow negates your dishonesty and childish behaviour?
 
Angstrom
No Party Affiliation
#21
Even more reasons to cheat the system. Like people needed more.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Even more reasons to cheat the system. Like people needed more.

The system the Liberals have just added to, is already cheating the people.

They haven't really made it any better. Just because one is eligible doesn't mean that they will be successful in receiving a grant. This is being lauded as progress, when it's just the creation of more red tape, hurdles and a facade of 'giving more' to the people.

The true goal should be tuition free higher learning, not discriminatory tiered access. Progs like Flossy wouldn't accept a tiered healthcare system, but a Liberal forwarded tiered education system is ok. The ignorance of these hypocrites is astounding.
 
Angstrom
No Party Affiliation
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBear View Post

The system the Liberals have just added to, is already cheating the people.

They haven't really made it any better. Just because one is eligible doesn't mean that they will be successful in receiving a grant. This is being lauded as progress, when it's just the creation of more red tape, hurdles and a facade of 'giving more' to the people.

The true goal should be tuition free higher learning, not discriminatory tiered access. Progs like Flossy would accept a tiered healthcare system, but a Liberal forwarded tiered education system is ok. The ignorance of these hypocrites is astounding.

I think so too.
 
Dixie Cup
Conservative
#24
And its laughable that they think they can actually afford this!
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

And its laughable that they think they can actually afford this!

They can, with the profits from cap and trade, and from the new pension tax.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dixie Cup View Post

And its laughable that they think they can actually afford this!

Of course we can afford it.

We have the lowest per capita debt in the country.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

We have the lowest per capita debt in the country.

And that negates the necessity of good governance and an honest accounting of how funds are allocated and dispersed?
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#28
I hope there's a limit if they're not planning on basing education on dedication. There will always be the life-long takers on any free ride
 
JamesBondo
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf View Post

I hope there's a limit if they're not planning on basing education on dedication. There will always be the life-long takers on any free ride

I hear you.

Student loans are based on need rather than the ability to pay it back. It is not clear to me why a free education for poor people is required. Will educated poor people get paid less when they graduate?
 
petros
#30
A building can only hold so many people....so here's what happens. Distance learning.

What is the success rate of distance learning?
 

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