You are still fired, but


Goober
#1
You are still fired, but
AOL chief executive makes rare public apology for openly firing employee at meeting | Financial Post
 
SLM
#2
Uh huh. So is he apologizing because what he did was wrong. (Which it is, you don't fire someone in front of other employees. Talk about tactless!)

Quote:

Lenzís ouster became public fodder after an audio recording of the meeting leaked out and appeared on the website of media blogger Jim Romenesko.

Or is it because he 'got caught'?
 
Goober
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

Uh huh. So is he apologizing because what he did was wrong. (Which it is, you don't fire someone in front of other employees. Talk about tactless!)

Or is it because he 'got caught'?

Set a fine example. He stated the employee was warned. How, in writing, do they have a posted policy.
 
captain morgan
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by Goober View Post

Set a fine example. He stated the employee was warned. How, in writing, do they have a posted policy.

I don't think that there is anything in the employee (protection) legislation that would dictate that someone can't be fired in front of others
 
Sal
#5
Quote:

“Abel, put that camera down right now! Abel, you’re fired. Out!” Armstrong said. After a pause, he continued talking about Patch.

“Internal meetings of a confidential nature should not be filmed or recorded so that our employees can feel free to discuss all topics openly. Abel had been told previously not to record a confidential meeting, and he repeated that behaviour on Friday, which drove my actions.”

I don't think what he did was legal... lawyer up Abel, you are about to become rich
 
SLM
+1
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by Goober View Post

Set a fine example. He stated the employee was warned. How, in writing, do they have a posted policy.

Warning or not, he should have been taken out of the room and fired in a one on one setting. Personally I'm making no judgement on whether his firing was legitimate, but the method was dead wrong. In my opinion.
 
captain morgan
#7
You're making a judgment SLM
 
Goober
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

I don't think that there is anything in the employee (protection) legislation that would dictate that someone can't be fired in front of others

I would agree. But I would bet it is in the HR manual for managers that have to lay off- dismiss an employee.
Wonder who signed off on that puppy.
Oh he did.
 
Sal
+1
#9
He should not have been fired in front of everyone but that won't be a problem in court...it will be the grounds he was fired on.
 
SLM
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

I don't think that there is anything in the employee (protection) legislation that would dictate that someone can't be fired in front of others

Even if there isn't, it's still tactless. Things that aren't in black and white legislation can still be deserving of an apology, certain behaviours are expected of people in certain positions, for example. So when the behaviour doesn't conform to standards, an apology is in order. That's just my opinion.
 
Goober
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

Even if there isn't, it's still tactless. Things that aren't in black and white legislation can still be deserving of an apology, certain behaviours are expected of people in certain positions, for example. So when the behaviour doesn't conform to standards, an apology is in order. That's just my opinion.

The correct opinion. He was on a rant and lost it.
 
SLM
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

You're making a judgment SLM

Of course I am. I'm not saying whether or not he should have been fired at all. But I am judging the behaviour of the employer when he fired the guy.
 
captain morgan
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

Even if there isn't, it's still tactless. Things that aren't in black and white legislation can still be deserving of an apology, certain behaviours are expected of people in certain positions, for example. So when the behaviour doesn't conform to standards, an apology is in order. That's just my opinion.


You bet that it's tactless and the sure sign of a person that was not born to lead/manage others. Chances are that there is a lot of resentment (and possibly fear) among the other employees.... Lots of folks probably looking at opportunities to cross the street after that episode.

Ironocally, if that happens, this manager will likely be given the boot (hopefully in front of many)

Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

Of course I am. I'm not saying whether or not he should have been fired at all. But I am judging the behaviour of the employer when he fired the guy.

I was trolling ya honey...
 
Goober
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

You bet that it's tactless and the sure sign of a person that was not born to lead/manage others. Chances are that there is a lot of resentment (and possibly fear) among the other employees.... Lots of folks probably looking at opportunities to cross the street after that episode.

Ironocally, if that happens, this manager will likely be given the boot (hopefully in front of many)



I was trolling ya honey...

From the link.
AOL Inc. Chief Executive Officer Tim Armstrong, making a rare public apology, sent a memo to employees saying he was sorry for the way he fired a staff member at a meeting last week.
 
Sal
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

You bet that it's tactless and the sure sign of a person that was not born to lead/manage others. Chances are that there is a lot of resentment (and possibly fear) among the other employees.... Lots of folks probably looking at opportunities to cross the street after that episode.

Ironocally, if that happens, this manager will likely be given the boot (hopefully in front of many)



I was trolling ya honey...

he's the chief executive he isn't going anywhere even though they will be sued
 
karrie
+2
#16  Top Rated Post
lol.... hubby was sitting in a manager's meeting once, when the head honcho said "And we're eliminating the manager's position in (name of town we were in)". Hubby said his face just dropped, and his heart skipped a beat, he snapped around to look at the boss, who goes "Oh, that reminds me, we need to talk later M."

Needless to say it all turned out okay, but sheesh, worst way to find out you've been promoted, EVER.
 
SLM
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

You bet that it's tactless and the sure sign of a person that was not born to lead/manage others. Chances are that there is a lot of resentment (and possibly fear) among the other employees.... Lots of folks probably looking at opportunities to cross the street after that episode.

Ironocally, if that happens, this manager will likely be given the boot (hopefully in front of many)

The other thing I question is the sincerity of the apology, seeing as how it came after it became fodder for public speculation and comment on that guy's blog. It's sad really, there are so many times a very simple "I'm sorry, I was wrong/inappropriate/got carried away" would do wonders.

Quote:

I was trolling ya honey...

Okay baby.

Lol.
 
Goober
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

The other thing I question is the sincerity of the apology, seeing as how it came after it became fodder for public speculation and comment on that guy's blog. It's sad really, there are so many times a very simple "I'm sorry, I was wrong/inappropriate/got carried away" would do wonders.

No sincerity- Trying to mitigate the PR disaster.
 
SLM
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Goober View Post

No sincerity- Trying to mitigate the PR disaster.

We savvy internet denizens see right through that! Lol.
 

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