Paul Bernardo applies for transfer to medium-security prison


SLM
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Paul Bernardo applies for transfer to medium-security prison

KINGSTON - Schoolgirl killer Paul Bernardo feels he has suffered enough in maximum security and has applied to be transferred to the medium-security comforts of condo-style prison housing.
It’s not a slam dunk but, much to the disgust of the father of the slain Kristen French, the 48-year-old has still asked to be granted just that.
With Kingston Penitentiary no longer housing prisoners in 60 days, its most notorious inmate is trying to have his security status lowered to avoid being shipped out to Quebec, sources say.
They say because he doesn’t want to end up at a prison like the super maximum-security pen in Sainte-Anne-des-Plaines near Montreal, the notorious killer and Scarborough rapist, who is serving a life sentence and has been slapped with a dangerous offender designation, has applied to be moved from the Kingston Pen this summer to new special housing at the medium-security Bath Institution just 20 minutes away.
“Whether he gets his request or not is not yet known,” said a corrections source. “But he has applied and he is entitled to apply.”
It seems inconceivable the sex killer responsible for the deaths in the early 1990s of French, 15, Leslie Mahaffy, 14, and Tammy Homolka, 15, could end up being allowed to move from a maximum security solitary confinement to a new $22-million independent living area with a kitchen and living room.
But several sources say it has been done for killers in the past.
And with the prison closing, the timing might be right.
“Our mandate is rehabilitation and others have had their designations downgraded before,” said a source.
There have been media reports that Bernardo, like Russell Williams and the Shafias, is already in Quebec but sources say he is still at KP while corrections officials sort out where he will end up.
Kingston Pen assistant warden Michele Vermette would not confirm Bernardo’s whereabouts, saying the penitentiary does not comment on inmates.
She did confirm that after Sept. 30 the prison will no longer have prisoners for the first time in 178 years.
Other insiders say it’s very telling Bernardo is still in the region.
The move will be controversial either way.
It is not the first time that Bernardo has applied to have his designation reduced since he arrived there in 1995 , said a source.
“In those new living areas the inmates have their own keys and everything else,” said a longtime guard. “But there is nothing unusual about killers living in these kinds of settings and they are all entitled to apply.”
In fact award-winning Canadian crime writer and author Rob Tripp reported on his CanCrime blog last week “although it may seem highly unlikely that a criminal as notorious as Bernardo would be considered for a transfer to lower security, the idea isn’t out of the question and there may no longer be any legal impediment to the transfer.”
The author of Without Honour on the shocking Shafia murder case reported, “Bernardo believes he deserves to live in the more comfortable and less restrictive confines of a medium-security prison” since “Bernardo has been locked in a small cell, about five feet wide by 10 feet long, 23 hours a day.”
Tripp, a former Sun Media reporter, wrote, “Bernardo covets a spot at medium-security Bath Institution, a complex of cottage-style dormitories on a sprawling 640-acre lake front property.”
But my sources tell me the best way to describe it is as a “condo or commune” style that have modern amenities but are still secure.
No matter how it’s rationalized the concept galls French, whose daughter Bernardo kidnapped and killed April 19, 1992.
“Too bad they don’t put him out in the yard with the rest of the boys,” French said.
But the news does not surprise him, he said.
“It doesn’t,” French said. “That son of a bitch gets away with everything.”
In the past French has spoken out in the St. Catharines Standard on his concerns over the thought Bernardo’s wife Karla Homolka could ever receive a pardon and talked to reporters of his displeasure over the release by a judge of a 2007 police interview video conducted at Kingston Pen in the murder investigation of Elizabeth Bain.
Also, upon word Homolka had moved to an island his comment to a reporter was, “What can we do about it, she is as free as a bird.”
That was hard to take and now this.
However saying, “We want to stay away from that stuff,” French said, he won’t formally complain.
But if asked, he will say, “As far as I am concerned he should be locked up and not get any special privileges and not get anything.”

Paul Bernardo applies for transfer to medium-security prison | Ontario | News | Toronto Sun

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“Bernardo believes he deserves to live in the more comfortable and less restrictive confines of a medium-security prison”

That sounds like the ego driven sociopath that he is.

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“Bernardo has been locked in a small cell, about five feet wide by 10 feet long, 23 hours a day.”

That sounds like what he actually deserves.

Just the idea that this might be granted makes my skin crawl.
 
petros
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Send him to PA! No condos there. I doubt anyone had even dreamed of a condo in 1911 when it was built.

1911 medium security sounds comfy and he'd be 1 of 50 white guys out of 500+ "others"
 
55Mercury
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Send him to PA! No condos there. I doubt anyone had even dreamed of a condo in 1911 when it was built.

1911 medium security sounds comfy and he'd be 1 of 50 white guys out of 500+ "others"

your dad runs a prison?
 
petros
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My dad is a place?
 
WLDB
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Hope its denied. Bad enough that they let Hamolka out at all.
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB View Post

Hope its denied. Bad enough that they let Hamolka out at all.

They cut a deal with someone named Homolka. That "person" named Teale should still be rotting in prison. Bernardo? Rot, GOOF!
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by WLDB View Post

Hope its denied. Bad enough that they let Hamolka out at all.

That little cnut should be burning in Hell.
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf View Post

They cut a deal with someone named Homolka. That "person" named Teale should still be rotting in prison. Bernardo? Rot, GOOF!

I know there was a deal. Its unfortunate that it was made at all. She was willing to sell him out Im sure he would have been willing to do the same. No deal for either, just drag each other down. Ive read that her prison was more like a college dorm and that she was able to have a cat. That is insane if true given what she did.

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

That little cnut should be burning in Hell.

At times I think its a shame that there probably is no hell for some people to go to.
 
Christianna
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Hopefully they say "sorry, but you haven't suffered yet what your victims suffered".
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Christianna View Post

Hopefully they say "sorry, but you haven't suffered yet what your victims suffered".

A prime example of where our Federal Gov't. is wasting money as soon as one word is typed about this. They should be tightening up the screws on that bastard, not loosening them!
 
hunboldt
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf View Post

They cut a deal with someone named Homolka. That "person" named Teale should still be rotting in prison. Bernardo? Rot, GOOF!


I still have fantasies about someday marrying Karla...
 
L Gilbert
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If Bernardo's application came before me, my answer would be something like, "You ARE kidding, right?"
 
hunboldt
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

My dad is a place?

PA means Petros- Ancestor...

PA prison spawns people who go on to commit major crime on release ,Like UrbaN Casavant...
oh wait- he was a guard..
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SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by L Gilbert View Post

If Bernardo's application came before me, my answer would be something like, "You ARE kidding, right?"

Being a sociopath he's not capable of judging what he deserves, so let us be the judge of that.

I'm telling you, if this doesn't get he same reactions in the HoC that the possibility of Homolka's pardon did, I'm going to be pissed.There is no way he should be afforded any kind of privilege.
 
darkbeaver
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In medium security he would likely get the treatment he deserves and be reclaimed into society as potting soil.
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by Christianna View Post

Hopefully they say "sorry, but you haven't suffered yet what your victims suffered".

I doubt its possible for someone with his head to suffer the way they did.

Quote: Originally Posted by L Gilbert View Post

If Bernardo's application came before me, my answer would be something like, "You ARE kidding, right?"

ha. It would be a bit funny if it was his idea of a joke. I doubt it is though. For some reason even Charles Manson applies for parole even though he must know he will never get it.
 
spaminator
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Quote: Originally Posted by hunboldt View Post

I still have fantasies about someday marrying Karla...

why?

you'll have to copy and paste the link of your fantasy.

documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f237/444762d1366823146-paul-bernardo-karla-homolka-crime-scene-photos-paul_bernardo_homolka_crime_scene_01.jpg

Karla - Paixão Assassina (Legendado) - YouTube
 
hunboldt
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Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

why?

you'll have to copy and paste the link of your fantasy.

documentingreality.com/forum/attachments/f237/444762d1366823146-paul-bernardo-karla-homolka-crime-scene-photos-paul_bernardo_homolka_crime_scene_01.jpg

Karla - Paixão Assassina (Legendado) - YouTube


Guess I just miss the taste of Gopher KOP in my supper dumplings..

Either that or I'm getting darn desperate..
 
SLM
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Guess they were right on top of this one.

Killer Paul Bernardo will remain in maximum security: Minister

OTTAWA - Schoolgirl killer and serial rapist Paul Bernardo won't be moved to a medium-security prison, Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney said Thursday.
Blaney responded to the public outcry after Bernardo made a request to be transferred to the easier life of a medium-security institution when Kingston Penitentiary permanently closes Sept. 30.
"While I do not control the security classification of individual prisoners, I have received assurances that there are no plans to move this inmate to a medium-security institution," Blaney said in a statement.
In 1995, Bernardo was sentenced to life in prison without parole for at least 25 years for the heinous murder and rape of Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffy.
His wife, Karla Homolka, was sentenced to 12 years for her role in the killings and is now raising a family in the Caribbean. She had pleaded guilty to manslaughter in a plea bargain that unleashed a torrent of public outcry at the time.


Killer Paul Bernardo will remain in maximum security: Minister | Ontario | News | Toronto Sun

The only injustice in this now is that his sick and twisted partner in crime isn't locked up right along with him. Freaking travesty.
 
Sal
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I am glad he will not get medium security or other such privileges. I am still not convinced he was the one who murdered them. We jailed the wrong "murderer". He had raped over 40 women in Scarborough. He didn't kill anyone until he got with her. SHE is the one whose knee prints were on the back of one of the girls. i remember when they took her back to the scene to pick something up and she wore her little school girl kilt. My god she was asking questions and cavorting around. No she did it. She was smart enough to nab the deal and our brighter than light criminal system grabbed at it. His feet should never see the other side of the wall, he is a multi rapist, but I believe it was her that manipulated the kills.

I also think they covered it due to their stupidity in releasing her.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Sal View Post

I am glad he will not get medium security or other such privileges. I am still not convinced he was the one who murdered them. We jailed the wrong "murderer". He had raped over 40 women in Scarborough. He didn't kill anyone until he got with her. SHE is the one whose knee prints were on the back of one of the girls. i remember when they took her back to the scene to pick something up and she wore her little school girl kilt. My god she was asking questions and cavorting around. No she did it. She was smart enough to nab the deal and our brighter than light criminal system grabbed at it. His feet should never see the other side of the wall, he is a multi rapist, but I believe it was her that manipulated the kills.

I also think they covered it due to their stupidity in releasing her.

You are right about that little bitch, Sal, but he's still no choir boy. - Keep him under lock for the duration. I liked that trial in the U.S. just now where the judge tacked on an extra 1000 years for good measure. But I do think a good lawyer should have been able to get that reduced to a couple of hundred!
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

You are right about that little bitch, Sal, but he's still no choir boy. - Keep him under lock for the duration. I liked that trial in the U.S. just now where the judge tacked on an extra 1000 years for good measure. But I do think a good lawyer should have been able to get that reduced to a couple of hundred!

This case is just another example of justice not done because of incompetence and a rush to judgement in order to appear as though they were "doing something". They need to slow down and do the right thing not just something to appease the public. I don't care whether he is a choirboy or a saint or the devil incarnate... he should suffer for what he "did" not for what he appeared to do.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Sal View Post

This case is just another example of justice not done because of incompetence and a rush to judgement in order to appear as though they were "doing something". They need to slow down and do the right thing not just something to appease the public. I don't care whether he is a choirboy or a saint or the devil incarnate... he should suffer for what he "did" not for what he appeared to do.

You're right, BUT when I was a young guy growing up we were taught that if you were present when the crime was being perpetrated than you were just as guilty as the actual perpetrator. Not sure if that holds true today but possibly did at the time of Bernardo's and Homolka's trial.
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Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

You're right, BUT when I was a young guy growing up we were taught that if you were present when the crime was being perpetrated than you were just as guilty as the actual perpetrator. Not sure if that holds true today but possibly did at the time of Bernardo's and Homolka's trial.

we could easily hold him for the rest of his life on his rape charges alone... missy there married the brother of her prison lawyer, is living in Guadeloupe and is busily reproducing children (three) and appears to be living a miserable and lonely but free existence.
 
JLM
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we could easily hold him for the rest of his life on his rape charges alone... missy there married the brother of her prison lawyer, is living in Guadeloupe and is busily reproducing children (three) and appears to be living a miserable and lonely but free existence.

Don't get mad at me for "pulling your chain", but does "freedom" really include a miserable and lonely existence. Karla must be getting towards the end of her "child reproducing" years! - The bitch must be in her mid 40s!
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Don't get mad at me for "pulling your chain", but does "freedom" really include a miserable and lonely existence. Karla must be getting towards the end of her "child reproducing" years! - The bitch must be in her mid 40s!

mad? hell no but yes, freedom does include misery for those who have "issues" but they are still free, it is our greatest gift aside from life itself.

her victims are dead, they did not have the opportunity to have babies and the parents of Mahaffy and French will never be grandparents. she killed her own sister...offered her up to Bernado on a platter, drugged and ready to go...so yeah, her freedom means a lot to her victims and there were a lot of victims, not just the ones she killed
 
JLM
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mad? hell no but yes, freedom does include misery for those who have "issues" but they are still free, it is our greatest gift aside from life itself.

her victims are dead, they did not have the opportunity to have babies and the parents of Mahaffy and French will never be grandparents. she killed her own sister...offered her up to Bernado on a platter, drugged and ready to go...so yeah, her freedom means a lot to her victims and there were a lot of victims, not just the ones she killed

You're right, she deserve to burn eternally in Hell. I was just pointing out that perhaps with her "freedom" she is suffering a little.
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

You're right, she deserve to burn eternally in Hell. I was just pointing out that perhaps with her "freedom" she is suffering a little.

I shudder to think she is raising children. They always end up on the rotten end of everything being in one of the three weakest groups in our society... children, old people and animals.
 
JLM
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I shudder to think she is raising children. They always end up on the rotten end of everything being in one of the three weakest groups in our society... children, old people and animals.

And eventually they are going to find out their mother's true colours.....................how sad can it get?
 
damngrumpy
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He like Castro in Cleveland likely won't even qualify to go to hell they are so low