Gun Control is Completely Useless.


Tecumsehsbones
#13561
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

my rod and gun club gets me a 3 million dollar liability plan for $7 per year. I guess loyds of london doesnt see us as a risk.

Is that for your rod or your fishing tackle?
 
Decapoda
+1
#13562
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I believe gun bans work.


I'm impressed you are able to formulate an opinion.

An opinion does nothing to objectively defend your position however. I guess when it's all you got, you have to play it.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#13563
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Is that for your rod or your fishing tackle?

Are they really good for it or did they just take Bondo's money?
 
JamesBondo
#13564
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Is that for your rod or your fishing tackle?

You are a troll and a poo poo face
 
Tecumsehsbones
#13565
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

You are a troll and a poo poo face

And you are another.
 
JamesBondo
#13566
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Are they really good for it or did they just take Bondo's money?

Yes.
 
spilledthebeer
#13567
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

How many people die annually in vehicular accidents compared to the result of gun fire?


OH Joyless LIE-beral Monkey..........................................


your logic IS FLAWED AS USUAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!


Why not ask how many people volunteered to drive...................................


and compare that to the number of people who VOLUNTEERED....................................


TO BE SHOT BY THUGS??????????????????????????????


You CANNOT LOGICALLY COMPARE VOLUNTEERS TO VICTIMS.....................................


unless of course you ARE TRYING TO PRODUCE LIE-beral Fake News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


And...........oh...........THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!



YOU ARE producing great steaming piles of LIE-beral Fake News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now you are free to change the subject....................


and whine about fonts and punctuation.......................


because you have NO logical facts.........................


or sensible conclusions!!!!!!
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#13568
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

OH Joyless LIE-beral Monkey..........................................


your logic IS FLAWED AS USUAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!


Why not ask how many people volunteered to drive...................................


You are full of shit as usual. Both gun and vehicle ownership are things we choose to do!
 
spilledthebeer
#13569
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I believe gun bans work.




YES hemerHOID......................................... .


I am quite sure you DO BELIEVE in gun bans........................



but since you also devoutly believe that LIE-beral policy is



fair.......................


workable................................


beneficial to ordinary Cdns...........................................


and is not heavily freighted......................................... .....


with BIGOTED.........................................


RACIST............................................ ..


anti western........................................... .....


and anti democratic values............................................ ........


I feel obligated to point out.............................................


that your judgement on ANY RELEVANT ISSUE.....................................


of GENUINE concern to ordinary people............................................ ......


IS DEEPLY FLAWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thus your belief in a gun ban is USELESS AND EASILY DISMISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In other news.............................................. .........


Our idiot Boy Justin was in Ontari-owe on Wednesday, August 13, 2019.........................................


to discuss the soaring crime rate with Toronto mayor JACKASS JOHN TORY...........................................




and Our idiot Boy told us on the evening news....................................


"That we cannot arrest our way out of this problem"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So it is NOW OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals HAVE NO PLAN.............................................. ...


to deal with the crime wave their vile,



ill considered.....................


lega; system with its disgraced hug a thug judges..........................................


and immigration choices that focus ONLY on finding and importing new LIE-beral supporters........................................ ..........


without giving ANY THOUGHT to how the new LIE-beral supporters will survive here.........................................



and that SHAMELESS LIE-beral VOTE BUYING............................................ .


that has encouraged all manner of LOONS to thrust their violent and drug addled CRAP ...................................


upon the public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!


LIE-beral GREED and lust for power at any price....................................


have made a FABULOUS MESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


And LIE-berals only want to BLAME US......................................


for complaining about THEIR DIRT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#13570
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

You are full of shit as usual. Both gun and vehicle ownership are things we choose to do!

oh, and liquor purchases, too!

Best if you mix them all together!


YAHOOO!
 
JamesBondo
#13571
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

Both gun and vehicle ownership are things we choose to do!

In a country of freedoms.
 
JamesBondo
#13572
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

oh, and liquor purchases, too!
Best if you mix them all together!
YAHOOO!

I am so glad that you are being sarcastic otherwise I'd have to tell you that you have your head up your arse.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#13573
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesBondo View Post

In a country of freedoms.

You are incredibly lucky to be one of the freest people alive or who have ever lived on this planet for the last 10,000 years.

Thank your lucky stars that you are in Canada.
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#13574
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Arizona – -(Ammoland.com)- Jamaica is an island nation with draconian gun controls. It has one of the highest murder rates on the planet. It was not always so. In 1962, before independence, Jamaica had a murder rate of 3.9 per 100,000 population, one of the lowest in the world. It was lower than the U.S. murder rate of 4.6 per 100,000 in 1962. The U.S. murder rate in 2012 was slightly lower than in 1962; 4.5 per 100,000. Jamaica's murder rate in 2012 was 45.1, eleven times greater than it had been under British rule. The firearms act was first passed in 1967. Draconian enforcement of the act began in the middle 1970's. David Kopel sums it up well:

In response to a sharply rising crime rate in Jamaica in the early 1970s, the government imposed complete gun prohibition. In fact, possession of a bullet meant a mandatory life sentence in prison. There was a special gun court where people would be tried in secret for gun possession offenses. And in conjunction with this tremendous crackdown on guns, they also did everything else that you can imagine Oliver North or Ross Perot doing to our Bill of Rights in your worst nightmares. They had gun sweeps, drug sweeps, militarized law enforcement, the government breaking into people's houses, with no probable cause at all, to look for illegal weapons and drugs. Every kind of oppressive measure you could want, censorship of violent television and movies, everything you could want in terms of “let's get really serious and crack down and get rid of all these silly constitutional liberties that are standing in the way of rough and tough law enforcement,” they did. What happened was the crime rate and the homicide rate dropped substantially for the first six months. They then started to rise again, got back to their old levels, and within a few years were far ahead of their old levels, and a few years later were at double and triple the levels which had inspired this kind of crackdown in the first place.
That description was written in 1995. Since then, the murder rates have risen even more, to peak about 2009. Jamaica murder rates have dropped a bit since then, but have remained near the top in homicide rates around the world since the late 1990's.


In spite of its obvious failure, the Jamaican government has not backed off of its draconian gun control experiment. Currently, the Jamaican government is in the middle of a ‘Get the Guns' campaign. It started in September of this year and has resulted in the confiscation of 130 illegal weapons and 1,500 rounds of ammunition as of a press release last Friday, the 27th of November, 2015. That is the equivalent of a modest American gun collection. From jamaica-gleaner.com:
The commissioner says he is pleased with the achievement as guns are used in over 80 per cent of murders committed locally.
According to Williams, in time, the recovery of the weapons will result in a reduction in major crimes.
How much time it will take is very uncertain. The draconian laws have been in place for 40 years already. From a story in the jamaicaobserver.com, it appears that a great many of the guns are coming from another country with extremely strict gun control, Haiti:
It involves collaboration with the Haitian law enforcement authorities due to the high inflow of illegal guns from the French-speaking island.
A commenter at the site indicates another source for the confiscated guns:
Mostly the home-made ones, and the rusty ones you stuff the nuzzle with gun powder! We need the WMDs Mr Commish!
An American who lived in Jamaica in 1961 reported that there was no problem in bringing a pistol to the island in 1960, or in possessing it at that time.


It is clear that the possession of guns is not the cause of the high murder rate in Jamaica. It is the change of the government from one in which most of the population trusted the police and the application of the rule of law, into a government in which two sets of criminal gangs trade rule based on who can commit the most vote fraud in the latest elections. Gun control is simply a ruse to distract the public from the real cause of the murders – a government that is allied with the criminal gangs, and a corrupt police force.


If draconian gun control laws have not reduced the homicide rate in an island nation over the last 40 years, and in fact, have likely contributed to the increase, there seems little reason to believe that they would decrease homicides in the United States, where the sources of guns are much greater, the potential for illegal manufacture much higher, and the Constitutional restraints on police enforcement of gun laws much stronger.


The current initiative to ‘Get the Guns' is reminiscent of the gun ‘buy back' events in the United States. They are primarily for political theater, rather than any real effect on crime rates. The number of guns needed for extremely high levels of murder are so small that they can easily be smuggled, illegally manufactured, or procured from corrupt police.


When the people trust the government and the police, murder rates drop to extremely low levels.


One significant way that a government can show that it trusts the people is to trust them with arms. Trust is a two way street.


Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2015/12/jam...#ixzz5wQwKCu5u


You might as well believe in the Tooth Fairy. Maybe you do.






What Colpy is telling us...........................................


with his DETAILED POST about Jamaica........................................... .....



is that drugs and gangs ...........................................


ALWAYS BRING CORRUPTION.....................................


and gun violence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What Colpy has not mentioned........................................


is the Imperial Chinese way of dealing with drugs..............................


in which addicts are given THREE CHANCES at medical care and aid.............................


to kick their habit.................................


if they fail a fourth time............................


they are deemed unsalvageable...............................


and EXECUTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!


Convicted Drug dealers were swiftly executed - NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



By these DRACONIAN means.........................


Imperial China regained control of the country...................................


which had seen OVER HALF the entire population...................................


between the ages of 15 and 55 getting ADDICTED TO OPIUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


LIE-bera;ls are DOING ADDICTS NO FAVOURS................................


by aiding their addiction with those drug shelters...........................


staffed by Poverty Pimps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If various people got a GOOD HARD LOOK at some addict dying from fentanyl on a street corner............................


it MIGHT scare some people straight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
 
spilledthebeer
#13575
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

You are incredibly lucky to be one of the freest people alive or who have ever lived on this planet for the last 10,000 years.

Thank your lucky stars that you are in Canada.




SO WHY THEN...........................................



are LIE-berals working so very hard..................................


to turn Canada into a Soviet Socialist MESS??????????????????????????








Here are some fun questions that LIE-berals don’t want us to ask:


LIE-berals boast that their immigration system is selecting candidates who “do well here” and of course the DEVIL is in the LIE-beral details!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Only one third of those who come to Canada are considered “immigrants” in the conventional sense!!!!!

Most of the OTHER TWO THIRDS of people are those who come here as part of the “Family Re-unification Process” that lets in people WHO HAVE NO HOPE OF SUCCEEDING IN CANADA without getting Both govt and family aid and thus ARE NOT CONSIDERED AS IMMIGRANTS when LIE-berals count up the “successful immigrants” LIE-berals brought to Canada”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The swarms of illegals crossing our borders on a daily basis - and clogging up our homeless shelters and straining our welfare and food bank system are not counted as immigrants either - by always flexible with the truth LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals have - for the time being - abandoned their efforts to silence ALL their critics by using blanket accusations of alleged “Hate Speech” that LIE-berals think should be punished in one of their Human Rights Kangaroo Courts!!

LIE-berals have utterly FAILED to supply any logical definition of “Islamophobia” or any other type of “hate speech” - other than to indicate that they believe it is “HATRED” to say anything HARSH about LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals are now warning us about Fake News - but got much critical comment for their FAILURE to provide ANY examples of what they consider Fake News!!

After much thought - LIE-berals have ome up with two examples of what they consider to be Hate Speech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The first example concerns what LIE-berals define as a white supremacist group - which alleges that one third of all the aid money provided by LIE-berals to Afghanistan HAS BEEN STOLEN OR WASTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals INSIST that is a LIE and is Hate Speech against LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!

The white poster group bases its accusation on Yankee numbers that indicate that ONE THIRD of all the Yankee aid money sent to Afghanistan has been lost or stolen!!

The alleged Hate Group points out that Cdn aid workers are junior partners with Yankees and are putting their money in EXACTLY THE SAME PROGRAMS as the Yankees!!

Thus the posters claim that it is LOGICAL to assume that Cdn aid money is being stolen or wasted in exactly the same way as Yankee aid money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals call this accusation of wasted aid money A HATE SPEECH LIE!!

The trut6h is that LIE-berals HAVE DELIBERATELY AVOIDED asking too many questions about where Cdn aid money goes - SPECIFICALLY so LIE-berals will not have to admit Cdn aid money is being stolen or wasted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After being MOCKED AND RIDICULED for this foreign aid FARCE - LIE-berals came up with another example of alleged Fake News!!

Andrew Scheer was spotted giving an interview with a woman who claimed to be a cancer survivor - and LIE-berals CLAIMED the woman was a PAID ACTOR - that Conservatives had HIRED to make LIE-beral health care efforts look bad!!!

LIE-berals even went so far as to NAME and supply photos of the person they claim was an actor!!!!!!!!

TOO BAD for LIE-berals - the woman LIE-berals named - who actually IS an actor - and just happens to LOOK LIKE the woman Scheer interviewed- spoke up and proved it was NOT HER in the interview!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do NOT hold your breath while waiting for LIE-berals to ADMIT they told us Fake News about hired actors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In other stupid Fake News - LIE-berals tell us our economy is “booming” even as we fall into RECORD DEBT LEVELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even as the infrastructure we rely on for heat and light and flush toilets and for transportation - ALL continue in service with NO ESSENTIAL MAINTENANCE being done!!!

Even as the bankrupt City of Toronto whines that it cannot afford to properly maintain or even properly inspect the bridges in its area!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even as the numbers of Homeless SOAR to record heights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals assure us they have EVERYTHING under control - and yet the cost of housing and servicing a single Homeless person in Toronto has RISEN FORTY PERCENT IN ONE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even as the number of complaints about used needles, garbage mixed with human waste, thievery and vandalism, public intoxication and drunken quarrels, rises exponentially with each new Homeless Shelter the City opens!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berals like to sneer that Conservatives are the party of the un-educated- and yet the numbers of under graduates and and graduates are very evenly divided!!!!!

POOR STUPID LIE-berals cannot even tell the truth about THEIR OWN SUPPORTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!







 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#13576
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

SO WHY THEN...........................................



are LIE-berals working so very hard..................................


to turn Canada into a Soviet Socialist MESS??????????????????????????


Here are some fun questions that LIE-berals don’t want us to ask:

LIE-berals boast that their immigration system is selecting candidates who “do well here” and of course the DEVIL is in the LIE-beral details!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only one third of those who come to Canada are considered “immigrants” in the conventional sense!!!!!
Most of the OTHER TWO THIRDS of people are those who come here as part of the “Family Re-unification Process” that lets in people WHO HAVE NO HOPE OF SUCCEEDING IN CANADA without getting Both govt and family aid and thus ARE NOT CONSIDERED AS IMMIGRANTS when LIE-berals count up the “successful immigrants” LIE-berals brought to Canada”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The swarms of illegals crossing our borders on a daily basis - and clogging up our homeless shelters and straining our welfare and food bank system are not counted as immigrants either - by always flexible with the truth LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals have - for the time being - abandoned their efforts to silence ALL their critics by using blanket accusations of alleged “Hate Speech” that LIE-berals think should be punished in one of their Human Rights Kangaroo Courts!!
LIE-berals have utterly FAILED to supply any logical definition of “Islamophobia” or any other type of “hate speech” - other than to indicate that they believe it is “HATRED” to say anything HARSH about LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals are now warning us about Fake News - but got much critical comment for their FAILURE to provide ANY examples of what they consider Fake News!!
After much thought - LIE-berals have ome up with two examples of what they consider to be Hate Speech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The first example concerns what LIE-berals define as a white supremacist group - which alleges that one third of all the aid money provided by LIE-berals to Afghanistan HAS BEEN STOLEN OR WASTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals INSIST that is a LIE and is Hate Speech against LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!
The white poster group bases its accusation on Yankee numbers that indicate that ONE THIRD of all the Yankee aid money sent to Afghanistan has been lost or stolen!!
The alleged Hate Group points out that Cdn aid workers are junior partners with Yankees and are putting their money in EXACTLY THE SAME PROGRAMS as the Yankees!!
Thus the posters claim that it is LOGICAL to assume that Cdn aid money is being stolen or wasted in exactly the same way as Yankee aid money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals call this accusation of wasted aid money A HATE SPEECH LIE!!
The trut6h is that LIE-berals HAVE DELIBERATELY AVOIDED asking too many questions about where Cdn aid money goes - SPECIFICALLY so LIE-berals will not have to admit Cdn aid money is being stolen or wasted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After being MOCKED AND RIDICULED for this foreign aid FARCE - LIE-berals came up with another example of alleged Fake News!!
Andrew Scheer was spotted giving an interview with a woman who claimed to be a cancer survivor - and LIE-berals CLAIMED the woman was a PAID ACTOR - that Conservatives had HIRED to make LIE-beral health care efforts look bad!!!
LIE-berals even went so far as to NAME and supply photos of the person they claim was an actor!!!!!!!!
TOO BAD for LIE-berals - the woman LIE-berals named - who actually IS an actor - and just happens to LOOK LIKE the woman Scheer interviewed- spoke up and proved it was NOT HER in the interview!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do NOT hold your breath while waiting for LIE-berals to ADMIT they told us Fake News about hired actors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In other stupid Fake News - LIE-berals tell us our economy is “booming” even as we fall into RECORD DEBT LEVELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even as the infrastructure we rely on for heat and light and flush toilets and for transportation - ALL continue in service with NO ESSENTIAL MAINTENANCE being done!!!
Even as the bankrupt City of Toronto whines that it cannot afford to properly maintain or even properly inspect the bridges in its area!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even as the numbers of Homeless SOAR to record heights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals assure us they have EVERYTHING under control - and yet the cost of housing and servicing a single Homeless person in Toronto has RISEN FORTY PERCENT IN ONE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even as the number of complaints about used needles, garbage mixed with human waste, thievery and vandalism, public intoxication and drunken quarrels, rises exponentially with each new Homeless Shelter the City opens!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals like to sneer that Conservatives are the party of the un-educated- and yet the numbers of under graduates and and graduates are very evenly divided!!!!!
POOR STUPID LIE-berals cannot even tell the truth about THEIR OWN SUPPORTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!






You're still blabbering away on whatever suits you're fancy in a 50 point font without any fear of consequence.

Aren't you lucky!
 
Colpy
Conservative
+4
#13577
https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-th...ass-shootings/


Very interesting. Very.


BTW, Trudeau just got found guilty of ANOTHER ethics violation by the ethics commissioner.


This time on the SNC-Lavalin file.


68 days to the election.


Throw the lying, corrupt SOB out!
 
petros
+4
#13578
Toronto Police Chief gets it right.

He's going after gangbangers to curb gun violence.

He'll have more funding after the election when Andrew is elected. It's part of his campaign.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#13579
Go after Gang Bangers and carefully inspect to boot of every single vehicle returning from the USA to reduce the number of Saturday Night Specials circulating among the Gang Bangers.

Gang Bangers don't shoot people.

Gang Bangers with guns shoot people.
 
Colpy
Conservative
+4
#13580
I've thought this for decades; in troubled areas, they should have cops walking the beat, like in the old days. Assign the cops an area, and keep them there, so they get to know the community. Select the cops on the basis of their personalities.....friendly and approachable wins the race.


Get them involved on the street level.
 
spilledthebeer
#13581
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

You're still blabbering away on whatever suits you're fancy in a 50 point font without any fear of consequence.

Aren't you lucky!




IT IS A FREE COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


And will remain that way...................................


as long as LIE-berals DO NOT GET THEIR OWN WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#13582
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post



it is a free country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


and will remain that way...................................


as long as lie-berals do not get their own way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

you see!!!!!!

The lieberals couldn't take that away from you .........
 
Colpy
Conservative
+3
#13583
'Naive': Police chiefs say handgun ban wouldn't stop flow of weapons into Canada

Chief Constable Adam Palmer, President of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police addresses a news conference in Vancouver, Monday, Oct. 15, 2018. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jonathan Hayward



Bill Graveland, The Canadian Press
Published Wednesday, August 14, 2019 6:50PM EDT



CALGARY -- The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police won't be supporting a call for a ban on handguns despite concerns about gun violence in a number of major cities including Toronto.


Vancouver police Chief Adam Palmer, who heads the organization, says Canada already has strong firearms regulations and no other law is required.


Toronto Mayor John Tory is asking the federal government for a handgun ban and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said he will consider additional gun-control measures.




There were 14 separate shootings recorded in Toronto over the August long weekend alone.


Palmer says in the majority of cases involving gun violence, the handguns being used are already illegal and it makes no sense to ban something that is already prohibited.


"In every single case there are already offences for that. They're already breaking the law and the criminal law in Canada addresses all of those circumstances," Palmer said Wednesday at the conclusion of the association's annual conference.


"The firearms laws in Canada are actually very good right now. They're very strict."


The prime minister has highlighted recently passed gun-control legislation that extends the scope of background checks and strengthens record-keeping requirements for gun retailers.


Earlier this week, he said Canadians will learn more about Liberal plans for gun control during the upcoming campaign.


"I very much look forward to the election campaign in which we will be able to share with Canadians our vision for how to keep Canadians safer," Trudeau said.


"That involves, yes, strengthening gun control but it also involves investments that ... are so deeply needed in community infrastructure."


Palmer suggested that handguns would still be around, even with a ban, because of Canada's proximity to the United States.
"People can't be naive to the realities of how it works with organized crime and smuggling," he said.


"There will always be an influx of guns from the United States into Canada," said Palmer. "Heroin is illegal in Canada, too, but we have heroin in Canada.


The association also discussed harassment and bullying in the workplace and the importance of making sure there are mental- health supports for those in policing.


"We have had suicides in Canada. I've had an officer die by suicide in my own department this year. It's a very terrible thing to go through for the police service and there have been other services that have gone through this across Canada as well.


"They're dealing with sexual assaults and child abuse, car chases, people with guns, people who have been shot and stabbed, exposure to blood and people spitting on them, swearing at them, assaulting them and they come back the next day and do it all over again."


https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/naive-...nada-1.4550150


Go ahead, liberty haters, argue with THAT!


BTW, I'm as surprized as you are.
 
JamesBondo
#13584
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

You are incredibly lucky to be one of the freest people alive or who have ever lived on this planet for the last 10,000 years.
Thank your lucky stars that you are in Canada.

Yes, I agree that you are lucky to be in Canada.
 
JamesBondo
#13585
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

'Naive': Police chiefs say handgun ban wouldn't stop flow of weapons into Canada
Chief Constable Adam Palmer, President of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police addresses a news conference in Vancouver, Monday, Oct. 15, 2018. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jonathan Hayward
Bill Graveland, The Canadian Press
Published Wednesday, August 14, 2019 6:50PM EDT
CALGARY -- The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police won't be supporting a call for a ban on handguns despite concerns about gun violence in a number of major cities including Toronto.
Vancouver police Chief Adam Palmer, who heads the organization, says Canada already has strong firearms regulations and no other law is required.
Toronto Mayor John Tory is asking the federal government for a handgun ban and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said he will consider additional gun-control measures.
There were 14 separate shootings recorded in Toronto over the August long weekend alone.
Palmer says in the majority of cases involving gun violence, the handguns being used are already illegal and it makes no sense to ban something that is already prohibited.
"In every single case there are already offences for that. They're already breaking the law and the criminal law in Canada addresses all of those circumstances," Palmer said Wednesday at the conclusion of the association's annual conference.
"The firearms laws in Canada are actually very good right now. They're very strict."
The prime minister has highlighted recently passed gun-control legislation that extends the scope of background checks and strengthens record-keeping requirements for gun retailers.
Earlier this week, he said Canadians will learn more about Liberal plans for gun control during the upcoming campaign.
"I very much look forward to the election campaign in which we will be able to share with Canadians our vision for how to keep Canadians safer," Trudeau said.
"That involves, yes, strengthening gun control but it also involves investments that ... are so deeply needed in community infrastructure."
Palmer suggested that handguns would still be around, even with a ban, because of Canada's proximity to the United States.
"People can't be naive to the realities of how it works with organized crime and smuggling," he said.
"There will always be an influx of guns from the United States into Canada," said Palmer. "Heroin is illegal in Canada, too, but we have heroin in Canada.
The association also discussed harassment and bullying in the workplace and the importance of making sure there are mental- health supports for those in policing.
"We have had suicides in Canada. I've had an officer die by suicide in my own department this year. It's a very terrible thing to go through for the police service and there have been other services that have gone through this across Canada as well.
"They're dealing with sexual assaults and child abuse, car chases, people with guns, people who have been shot and stabbed, exposure to blood and people spitting on them, swearing at them, assaulting them and they come back the next day and do it all over again."
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/naive-...nada-1.4550150
Go ahead, liberty haters, argue with THAT!
BTW, I'm as surprized as you are.

when it comes to gun laws the liberals seldom opt for sensible laws. A gun ban would be a feel good law. Something that they can pat themselv3s on the back for and say 'look what we did!'
 
petros
+3
#13586


The following night The Holocaust began with Kristallnacht.

1 day without guns and look what happened.

1 damn day.
 
petros
+1
#13587
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

'Naive': Police chiefs say handgun ban wouldn't stop flow of weapons into Canada
Chief Constable Adam Palmer, President of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police addresses a news conference in Vancouver, Monday, Oct. 15, 2018. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jonathan Hayward
Bill Graveland, The Canadian Press
Published Wednesday, August 14, 2019 6:50PM EDT
CALGARY -- The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police won't be supporting a call for a ban on handguns despite concerns about gun violence in a number of major cities including Toronto.
Vancouver police Chief Adam Palmer, who heads the organization, says Canada already has strong firearms regulations and no other law is required.
Toronto Mayor John Tory is asking the federal government for a handgun ban and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said he will consider additional gun-control measures.
There were 14 separate shootings recorded in Toronto over the August long weekend alone.
Palmer says in the majority of cases involving gun violence, the handguns being used are already illegal and it makes no sense to ban something that is already prohibited.
"In every single case there are already offences for that. They're already breaking the law and the criminal law in Canada addresses all of those circumstances," Palmer said Wednesday at the conclusion of the association's annual conference.
"The firearms laws in Canada are actually very good right now. They're very strict."
The prime minister has highlighted recently passed gun-control legislation that extends the scope of background checks and strengthens record-keeping requirements for gun retailers.
Earlier this week, he said Canadians will learn more about Liberal plans for gun control during the upcoming campaign.
"I very much look forward to the election campaign in which we will be able to share with Canadians our vision for how to keep Canadians safer," Trudeau said.
"That involves, yes, strengthening gun control but it also involves investments that ... are so deeply needed in community infrastructure."
Palmer suggested that handguns would still be around, even with a ban, because of Canada's proximity to the United States.
"People can't be naive to the realities of how it works with organized crime and smuggling," he said.
"There will always be an influx of guns from the United States into Canada," said Palmer. "Heroin is illegal in Canada, too, but we have heroin in Canada.
The association also discussed harassment and bullying in the workplace and the importance of making sure there are mental- health supports for those in policing.
"We have had suicides in Canada. I've had an officer die by suicide in my own department this year. It's a very terrible thing to go through for the police service and there have been other services that have gone through this across Canada as well.
"They're dealing with sexual assaults and child abuse, car chases, people with guns, people who have been shot and stabbed, exposure to blood and people spitting on them, swearing at them, assaulting them and they come back the next day and do it all over again."
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/naive-...nada-1.4550150
Go ahead, liberty haters, argue with THAT!
BTW, I'm as surprized as you are.

If ever a Bill ever gets tabled abd passes vote,
 
petros
#13588
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

'Naive': Police chiefs say handgun ban wouldn't stop flow of weapons into Canada
Chief Constable Adam Palmer, President of the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police addresses a news conference in Vancouver, Monday, Oct. 15, 2018. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jonathan Hayward
Bill Graveland, The Canadian Press
Published Wednesday, August 14, 2019 6:50PM EDT
CALGARY -- The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police won't be supporting a call for a ban on handguns despite concerns about gun violence in a number of major cities including Toronto.
Vancouver police Chief Adam Palmer, who heads the organization, says Canada already has strong firearms regulations and no other law is required.
Toronto Mayor John Tory is asking the federal government for a handgun ban and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has said he will consider additional gun-control measures.
There were 14 separate shootings recorded in Toronto over the August long weekend alone.
Palmer says in the majority of cases involving gun violence, the handguns being used are already illegal and it makes no sense to ban something that is already prohibited.
"In every single case there are already offences for that. They're already breaking the law and the criminal law in Canada addresses all of those circumstances," Palmer said Wednesday at the conclusion of the association's annual conference.
"The firearms laws in Canada are actually very good right now. They're very strict."
The prime minister has highlighted recently passed gun-control legislation that extends the scope of background checks and strengthens record-keeping requirements for gun retailers.
Earlier this week, he said Canadians will learn more about Liberal plans for gun control during the upcoming campaign.
"I very much look forward to the election campaign in which we will be able to share with Canadians our vision for how to keep Canadians safer," Trudeau said.
"That involves, yes, strengthening gun control but it also involves investments that ... are so deeply needed in community infrastructure."
Palmer suggested that handguns would still be around, even with a ban, because of Canada's proximity to the United States.
"People can't be naive to the realities of how it works with organized crime and smuggling," he said.
"There will always be an influx of guns from the United States into Canada," said Palmer. "Heroin is illegal in Canada, too, but we have heroin in Canada.
The association also discussed harassment and bullying in the workplace and the importance of making sure there are mental- health supports for those in policing.
"We have had suicides in Canada. I've had an officer die by suicide in my own department this year. It's a very terrible thing to go through for the police service and there have been other services that have gone through this across Canada as well.
"They're dealing with sexual assaults and child abuse, car chases, people with guns, people who have been shot and stabbed, exposure to blood and people spitting on them, swearing at them, assaulting them and they come back the next day and do it all over again."
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/naive-...nada-1.4550150
Go ahead, liberty haters, argue with THAT!
BTW, I'm as surprized as you are.

The US has shitloads of gunsmiths. You can import them legally. No permits and as many as you want.
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
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#13589
All you anti-gun types will be happy to know that my firearms are definitely leftists. They sit around all day in their safe space, they won't do shit unless you feed them and yes, they ARE triggered.
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

I believe gun bans work.

Especially when you want to force your odious, dehumanizing ideology on the population.

Let's see. Do gun bans work? In a sense yes. They lower the rate of homicide by firearm. They do NOT however lower the overall homicide rate. They don't even prevent mass killings. Look at the fire in Kyoto last month. More people killed in that arson attack than were killed by the El Paso and Dayton shooters combined.
In fact Japan, a country where it is ridiculously difficult to legally own a firearm, has had some of the worst mass killings in the modern Western world outside of war.

Then look at the idiot last year in Toronto with the rental van. He managed to kill more people than the Danforth shooter. Quite a few more in fact.

ON top of that, look up the stats yourself. In any given year around half of the firearm related homicides are gang related. So basically you want a gun ban to prevent around 150 murders a year. Because criminals aren't going to be all that seriously affected by a gun ban.

So to sum up, we need a gun ban because 150 people a year are killed by them. But you're fine with the 1800+ a year being killed in MVA's, most of which are caused by impairment or distraction.

And look, I get the difference between intending to shoot someone and "accidentally" running over someone with your car, or crashing into another vehicle. But that's where the difference ends for those who are impaired or texting. You may not have intended to kill someone but you DID intentionally engage in reckless behaviour that is known to kill people.

Here's another irony. From 2000-2017 more people were stabbed to death than shot to death. Yet while I have to store my firearms in super secure lock boxes, in pieces, in different parts of the house and separate from any ammo, I can have as many surgically sharp blades as big as I want just sitting around my house within reach. Not that I do, just pointing out the stupidity of your ideology.