Day of the Lord, wrath and blessings

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Thank God I'm an atheist.

This is about the lizard people as well as why their time has not started yet.

Doctrine today promotes a 7 year tribulation rather than a 3 1/2 year one that Revelations promotes. Since that is a bruise event from Ge:3:15 it should follow the same pattern that precede the cross. That was also a 3 1/2 year period of time. How that is arrived at will be explained in greater detail below when the 70th week is explored.

Neb's vision covered a swath of time that went from the day Daniel did what Da:2 says he did for Neb. When Christ claims Jerusalem at the start of a global reign that is the defeat that gives Him those qualities. Head=qualified king over the earth and all living things in it. Silver is two strong arms referencing God and the Holy Spirit, legs that represent longevity and feet of iron as the ability to move things or something along that line. The authority over birds and beasts of the fields is in the book and fits in better with the 'day of the lord' series as it covers all the passages it appears in.

This image's head was of fine gold,
his breast and his arms of silver,
his belly and his thighs of brass,
His legs of iron,
his feet part of iron and part of clay.
Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands,
which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay,
and brake them to pieces.
Then was the iron,
the clay,
the brass,
the silver,
and the gold,
broken to pieces together,
and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors;
and the wind carried them away,
that no place was found for them:
and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain,
and filled the whole earth.

This is the dream;
and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.
O king,
art a king of kings:
for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom,
and strength,
and glory.
And wheresoever the children of men dwell,
the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand,
and hath made thee ruler over them all.
Thou art this head of gold.
And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee,
and another third kingdom of brass,
which shall bear rule over all the earth.

Alexander the Great onlt ruled over Jerusalem for about 2 weeks and for the rest of the time Greece controlled that city it was one Genera; and Greece eventually lost control so that the 'little horn' verses could reference Rome's full 50 rule over Jerusalem and most of the known world at that time. The details of what is accomplished is in the 4 Gospels as well as the rest of the NT text and the last line is referencing the RCC having the correct text and the correct understanding as late as 323AD but with the change to a Latin Bible the truth was lost yet the false religion lived on just as it does today. Just revealing that the beloved Disciple who wrote the two most important NT books is pushed aside for false worship of Mary, mother of Jesus. Mary's sermon is for the events connected to the bruise to her son's heel. Her sacrifice at losing her 1st son has huge rewards attached to it. The last woman in Re:12 is Mary of Bethany who will be the fist one of the 12 tribes to be resurrected to life, she will be married to Jesus at that time.

Therefore the he goat waxed very great:
and when he was strong,
the great horn was broken;
and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
And out of one of them came forth a little horn,
which waxed exceeding great,
toward the south,
and toward the east,
and toward the pleasant land.
And it waxed great,
even to the host of heaven;
and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground,
and stamped upon them.
he magnified himself even to the prince of the host,
and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away,
and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression,
and it cast down the truth to the ground;
and it practised,
and prospered.

The time below goes from when the 70 weeks started with the day John the Baptist was called (26AD as 30AD Passover was on a Friday)
The last anointing was the ride into Jerusalem as that was a prophecy that was to be fulfilled by a king rather than by the High Priest that Jesus was. The anointing the night before by Mary of Bethany. Fulfillment of the bruise to the heel is an important way point as far as the reconciliation of mankind back to God.

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city,
to finish the transgression,
and to make an end of sins,
and to make reconciliation for iniquity,
and to bring in everlasting righteousness,
and to seal up the vision and prophecy,
and to anoint the most Holy.
Know therefore and understand,
that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks,
and threescore and two weeks:
the street shall be built again,
and the wall,
even in troublous times.

The troublesome times would be the whole time between Greece losing control of Jerusalem and Rome gaining control in 63BC.

And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off,
but not for himself:
and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;
and the end thereof shall be with a flood,
and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

When God called John the clock started on a period of 3 1/2 that would unwind before the event mentioned at mid-week. The Gospel of John contains some events after Jesus came back from the wilderness but before John was in prison. The Gospels og Matthew and Mark skip over until Jesus was no longer cut-ff from being the High Priest at a level that was higher than just for the 12 Tribes.
Romans:13 gave the leaders of Rome authority to use the sword against evil as a way of protecting it's own people from danger, so Rome has as much authority at that point as Neb did about 600 years earlier. Neb's is called God's servant more than once in Scripture. The last desolation to happen is the 7 vials and that is over a few hours after it starts, Prior to that is 3 1/2 years when fallen angels are the cause of much tribulation and for 4 days before that the earth experiences physical acts attributed to prophecy that show the coming events are literal rather than figurative.

The 'he' in the verse below is God, the same mentioned in association with covenants at the start of the 70 weeks passage. Mid week was the cross and Acts:10 was 3 1/2 years later.Prior to that Stephen was killed, the blood sacrifices continued and the money-changers returned. The consummation is the scattering mentioned in De:4:30 and the scattering associated with it. The consummation would be when Jesus says, 'It is finished.' as He pours out the 7th vial and the next event is the resurrection that happen as Re:10 unfolds as that is associated with Re:20:4.

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:
and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,
and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate,
even until the consummation,
and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

And I prayed unto the LORD my God,
and made my confession,
and said,
O Lord,
the great and dreadful God,
keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him,
and to them that keep his commandments;

Now as he was speaking with me,
I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground:
but he touched me,
and set me upright.
And he said,
I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation:
for at the time appointed the end shall be.
he ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
And the rough goat is the king of Grecia:
and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
Now that being broken,
whereas four stood up for it,
four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation,
but not in his power.
And in the latter time of their kingdom,
when the transgressors are come to the full,
a king of fierce countenance,
and understanding dark sentences,
shall stand up.

The first and last verse in the selection below takes place at the start of Re:11 and the start of the 1260 days the two witnesses are active and the last verse is also for that same place. The 12 in between are for the Apostles and their stay in Jerusalem until 70AD. 70AD was the time the temple in Re:4 became the active way to repent your sins. Saying the Lord's Prayer will get your prayers heard as they rise as vapor from the altar. Daniel used the same method when he was in exile in Neb's Babylon. The list of things given in the 70 weeks verses should have been experienced during that time. If not the rest of the NT would also be just as valid.

And great earthquakes shall be in divers places,
and famines,
and pestilences;
and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

But before all these,
they shall lay their hands on you,
and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues,
and into prisons,
being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
And it shall turn to
you for a testimony.
Settle it therefore in your hearts,
not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
or I will give you a mouth and wisdom,
which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
And ye shall be betrayed both by parents,
and brethren,
and kinsfolks,
and friends;
and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
In your patience possess ye your souls.
And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies,
then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains;
and let them which are in the midst of it depart out;
and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
For these be the days of vengeance,
that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
But woe unto them that are with child,
and to them that give suck,
in those days!
for there shall be great distress in the land,
and wrath upon this people.
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword,
and shall be led away captive into all nations:
and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

And there shall be signs in the sun,
and in the moon,
and in the stars;
and upon the earth distress of nations,
with perplexity;
the sea and the waves roaring;

And there was given me a reed like unto a rod:
and the angel stood,
and measure the temple of God,
and the altar,
and them that worship therein.
But the court which is without the temple leave out,
and measure it not;
for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
And I will give power unto my two witnesses,
and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days,
clothed in sackcloth.
The part below is establishing who the iron is and who the clay is. Iron is referring to fallen angels, the very ones that had part in the sins committed in Ge:6 that brought on the flood of water. They were put into the Pit by the saints mentioned by Enoch in the book of Jude and by Moses when he referred to it as an historical event. Jude is the best definition for what a fallen angel is in a book just before a long one that references them many times. Clay is referencing mankind and 10 toes are the 10 men that are given kingdoms on the same day the Beast starts his 42 month reign.

And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron:
forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things:
and as iron that breaketh all these,
shall it break in pieces and bruise.
And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes,
part of potters' clay,
and part of iron,
the kingdom shall be divided;
but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron,
forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
And as the toes of the feet were part of iron,
and part of clay,
so the kingdom shall be partly strong,
and partly broken.
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay,
they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men:
but they shall not cleave one to another,
even as iron is not mixed with clay.
And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom,
which shall never be destroyed:
and the kingdom shall not be left to other people,
but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms,
and it shall stand for ever.
Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands,
and that it brake in pieces the iron,
the brass,
the clay,
the silver,
and the gold;
the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter:
and the dream is certain,
and the interpretation thereof sure.

2/3 of the Gentiles alive on the day the 7th trump sounds will die in the few hours that follow the resurrection of the two witnesses. What is mentioned had to happen in a period of 1260 days that starts when the 5th trump sounds and end on the day the 7th trump sounds.
In the verse below the whole world surrenders to the Beast at the start of his 42 month rule. Jerusalem only comes under his control for the 4 days the witnesses are dead. The latter time below is 3 1/2 years before and Jerusalem is exempt.

And in the latter time of their kingdom,
when the transgressors are come to the full,
a king of fierce countenance,
and understanding dark sentences,
shall stand up.
And his power shall be mighty,
but not by his own power:
and he shall destroy wonderfully,
and shall prosper,
and practise,
and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand;
and he shall magnify himself in his heart,
and by peace shall destroy many:
he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes;
but he shall be broken without hand.

All of that has to have a reference in Da:11 and be within the 1260 days that is what 42 months equals. The 5th trump sounding is woe one and 5 months later the 2nd woe begins and 1/3 of all people on the planet

And now will I shew thee the truth.
there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia;
and the fourth shall be far richer than they all:
and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia.
nd a mighty king shall stand up,
that shall rule with great dominion,
and do according to his will.
And when he shall stand up,
his kingdom shall be broken,
and shall be divided toward the four winds of heaven;
and not to his posterity,
nor according to his dominion which he ruled:
for his kingdom shall be plucked up,
even for others beside those.

The last verse from Da:11 is referencing the day the 7th trumps sounds and the 7 vials are followed by the book of life verses from Re:10.

Satan and the harlot is the king with the daughter. The two witnesses are the people that know God and can do exploits and a few other thing have been meshed but not all of it. Revelations has several chapters that would help filling in the current blanks. The image from Re:13 is the false throne and it is the abomination standing where it should not be.

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,
spoken of by Daniel the prophet,
stand in the holy place,
(whoso readeth,
let him understand

And arms shall stand on his part,
and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength,
and shall take away the daily sacrifice,
and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

Let no man deceive you by any means:
for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first,
and that man of sin be revealed,
the son of perdition;
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,
or that is worshipped;
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God.

Therefore shall her plagues come in one day,
and mourning,
and famine;
and she shall be utterly burned with fire:
for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

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Really? You would come to this thread to confess something so trivial as reality vs illusion? The words read the same whether the single author is real or just a person in a very complex story. You can't say this is confusing in any way.

Whom shall he teach knowledge?
and whom shall he make to understand doctrine?
them that are weaned from the milk,
and drawn from the breasts.
For precept must be upon precept,
precept upon precept;
line upon line,
line upon line;
here a little,
and there a little:

For this shall the earth mourn,
and the heavens above be black:
because I have spoken it,
I have purposed it,
and will not repent,
neither will I turn back from it.

And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword;
in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me,
and made me a polished shaft;
in his quiver hath he hid me;

So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth:
it shall not return unto me void,
but it shall accomplish that which I please,
and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

It took me awhile to relate the verse with the quiver in it to the 1st seal prophecy which makes God the rider and the white horse is the Holy Spirit doing the one flesh thing as the 'unknown day' begins with the prophecy that has to unfold before Jesus can return. 3 1/2 years of it.

It will take you an even greater 'awhile' to regain your sanity.

If ever.

Not my problem if that is what the book does to you. If it is fiction it doesn't matter what version is promoted.

If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus,
what advantageth it me,
if the dead rise not?
let us eat and drink;
for to morrow we die.

the former things are come to pass,
and new things do I declare:
before they spring forth I tell you of them.

For this shall the earth mourn,
and the heavens above be black:
because I have spoken it,
I have purposed it,
and will not repent,
neither will I turn back from it.

For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
For when they shall say,
Peace and safety;
then sudden destruction cometh upon them,
as travail upon a woman with child;
and they shall not escape.
But ye,
are not in darkness,
that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Ye are all the children of light,
and the children of the day:
we are not of the night,
nor of darkness.

Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard,
and hold fast,
and repent.
If therefore thou shalt not watch,
I will come on thee as a thief,
and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

I come as a thief.
Blessed is he that watcheth,
and keepeth his garments,
lest he walk naked,
and they see his shame.

And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse,
which sword proceeded out of his mouth:
and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Do dislike the Jews as Orthodox becasue it is the truth until hate the Jews.

I could like Christian, Buddhist and Moslem of favor.
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Do dislike the Jews as Orthodox becasue it is the truth until hate the Jews.
I could like Christian, Buddhist and Moslem of favor.

Suck my ass hairs ya' sodomite.
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Do dislike the Jews as Orthodox becasue it is the truth until hate the Jews.

I could like Christian, Buddhist and Moslem of favor.

I will try to answer your question if you will re-post it in English.

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