The Athiest vs the Religious


Johnnny
#1
I utterly reject everything to do with religion while on the other hand religious nutbars like selfsame reject everything I believe in.

Who is wrong?

Both of us

**** religion
 
Johnnny
#2
We are both immoral, ignorant and we will always be at a stalemate.
 
MHz
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

I utterly reject everything to do with religion while on the other hand religious nutbars like selfsame reject everything I believe in.

Who is wrong?

Both of us

**** religion

Is posting on religious threads ever going to be changed to something you like doing or is this how you torture yourself?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1nuq1sbhlk
Nilsson - Rainmaker
 
MHz
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

We are both immoral, ignorant and we will always be at a stalemate.

Yours is growing, a Christian sheds those flaws as he grows in wisdom, so they are ships passing in the dead of night.. Your generation is the latest in a long list that hasn't changed at all for a very long time.
 
Torch light
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

I utterly reject everything to do with religion while on the other hand religious nutbars like selfsame reject everything I believe in.
Who is wrong?
Both of us

Quran 34: 24-25, which mean:
(24. Say: "Who provides for you from the [gaseous] heavens [with the rain] and the earth [with the plant and fruit?]"
Say: "God [it is Who provides for you], and [you will see whether] I or you are on guidance or in obvious error."


25. Say [to the disbelievers]: "You will not be judged concerning what [guilt] we have committed, nor shall we be judged concerning what [guilt] you do.")

More explanation is in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/34.htm#a34_23
quran-ayat.com/pret/34.htm#a34_23
 
Torch light
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnny View Post

We are both immoral, ignorant and we will always be at a stalemate.

We may be anything; I don't object ..
while God Almighty is the True Creator of everything, and the Lord of all nations... all others including Jesus, Mohammed, the angels and all beings are God's servants and He is the Absolute Master and the One God the Eternal having no son, daughter, parents or any peers or equal.

Quran 4: 172, which means:
( The Christ will never disdain to be a servant of God, neither will the angels favored n [by God.]
Whosoever disdains to serve Him, and waxes proud, He will gather them altogether to Him [in the space
o .])
.................................................. ................
172 n All of them do not disdain from admitting their slavery to God and submitting themselves to Him.
172 o And call them to account.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_172
quran-ayat.com/pret/4.htm#a4_172
Last edited by Torch light; Aug 28th, 2019 at 05:25 AM..
 
Cliffy
+2
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Danbones
#8
Says the guy who lies all the time and has a thing for rented children.

So...cliffy, you are different from them HOW?
 
Cliffy
#9
 
Cliffy
-1
#10
 
MHz
#11
All other versions are bad except your version. That about sum it up??
 
Cliffy
#12
 
Jinentonix
+1 / -1
#13
I just think it's ridiculous that in 21st century we're still giving credence and Constitutional protection to a superstition.
 
MHz
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

I just think it's ridiculous that in 21st century we're still giving credence and Constitutional protection to a superstition.

You spelled 'industry' wrong. You also missed the part about your kind being the ones to rake in the most wealth and prestige from what you consider to be a scam. Low morals would be needed to accept something so crooked.


https://www.quora.com/How-much-does-...-make-per-year
Religion “industry” is worth more than you think. The majority of that money is from entirely free donations. Which means that unlike the government that has to tear money away from people who don’t feel they are getting anything in return, the Church is getting money freely from people who obviously feel they are getting something and that something likely “guilts” them into going out and serving the community in other ways.
So this revenue is freely given…that’s huge…because if we are going to tax churches than why don’t we calculate the revenue and thus taxes owed by the education “industry” which so far is largely turning out debt-ridden malcontents.
Just one of these “industries” for example, is called catholic and she can boast of this:


This doesn’t include the Salvation Army and st Vincent de Paul…etc.
So perhaps the question needs to be rephrased: suggest “How much are religious organizations given against how much they give? or Is the religion industry able to make enough money to support its charitable ambitions? or Is the whole government welfare racket learning anything from the efficiency of religious charitable services? Any of those would work
 
Walter
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

I just think it's ridiculous that in 21st century we're still giving credence and Constitutional protection to a superstition.

We don’t.
 
Walter
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Atheist bullshit.
 
Cliffy
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Atheist bullshit.

Alt-right bullshit. How can someone with a personal relationship with the Divine be an atheist?
 
MHz
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

We don’t.

Nutcases who refer to themselves in the plural do not have any relationship with the God of the Holy Bible.
 
MHz
+1
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Alt-right bullshit. How can someone with a personal relationship with the Divine be an atheist?

You have a relationship that doesn't fit the NT parameters. Is the term 'false Christian' a new one to you? (if so you might be one of them)
 
Cliffy
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

You have a relationship that doesn't fit the NT parameters. Is the term 'false Christian' a new one to you? (if so you might be one of them)

Then the NT is full of shit, just like you. There are thousands of gods, religions and holy texts. To think that you have the handle on the truth, that your god is the only true god is such a colossal ego mind phuk. Your god is no different than any other, no more important, no more omnipotent, no more real than anybody else's. Your judgement of other's beliefs will get you into trouble with those who matter in such matters is on your head. "Judge not lest ye shall be judged."
 
Jinentonix
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

You spelled 'industry' wrong. You also missed the part about your kind being the ones to rake in the most wealth and prestige from what you consider to be a scam.

"My" kind? How exactly does someone like me rake in the wealth and prestige from stupid superstitions? And uh, you're the one who professes to a be a good ol' god fearin' Jew hater. So how many people have you ripped off in the last week?
 
Jinentonix
+1
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

We don’t.

Yes, we as a country do.
 
Jinentonix
-1
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Then the NT is full of shit, just like you. There are thousands of gods, religions and holy texts. To think that you have the handle on the truth, that your god is the only true god is such a colossal ego mind phuk. Your god is no different than any other, no more important, no more omnipotent, no more real than anybody else's. Your judgement of other's beliefs will get you into trouble with those who matter in such matters is on your head. "Judge not lest ye shall be judged."

At least when our ancients worshiped the sun and shit thinking they were gods it made more sense. You can at least see those gods.


And both the OT and NT are complete bullshit. The OT is full of stories lifted from even older religions. And while I don't take issue with the very basic message of the NT, one doesn't need a Bible or religion to be a decent person.



But the biggest joke of all is one of the "Ten Commandments", Thou shalt not kill. Yeah, meanwhile god's telling the Israelites to slaughter the unbelievers all over the OT. And THAT kind of attitude has caused some major problems throughout history. When people believe, I mean REALLY believe they are acting in their god's name, they have shown themselves capable of the most absolute horrifically cruel acts imaginable.
 
Walter
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Yes, we as a country do.

Please cite where in the constitution the werd superstition appears.
 
Jinentonix
-1
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Please cite where in the constitution the werd superstition appears.

Freedom of Religion. Religion and belief in gods being superstitions of course.
 
Cannuck
-1
#26
Catholics are guaranteed their own school system.
 
DaSleeper
+1
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

"Judge not lest ye shall be judged."


Interesting that hypocritical atheist quotes the bible when it serves his interest but demeans anyone else doing it....
 
Cannuck
+1 / -1
#28
Why? Non-muslims often quote the Quran to criticize Muslims. There’s some stupid shit in those books
 
Walter
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

Freedom of Religion. Religion and belief in gods being superstitions of course.

Nope.
 
Cliffy
#30