Capitalism will save this world


EagleSmack
#1321
Quote: Originally Posted by HarperCons View Post

basic income is the next survival mechanism of capitalism.

 
Alternative
#1322
This with socialists/communists is reality not worst but not even best citizen. Typo in Sweden and Norway are socialists/communists real way to society.
 
Corduroy
-1
#1323
Quote: Originally Posted by HarperCons View Post

basic income is the next survival mechanism of capitalism.

And maybe the last. Basic income has been considered a necessity as automation increases, but as automation increases the value of labour and the cost of production decreases. Capitalism doesn't cannibalizes itself and collapses as predicted, but makes itself obsolete.
 
Cliffy
-1
#1324
 
Angstrom
#1325
Quote: Originally Posted by Corduroy View Post

And maybe the last. Basic income has been considered a necessity as automation increases, but as automation increases the value of labour and the cost of production decreases. Capitalism doesn't cannibalizes itself and collapses as predicted, but makes itself obsolete.

Thats why it will save the world

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

You’re back to you’re communist roots of hating rich people again. Welcome back
 
captain morgan
#1326
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

You’re back to you’re communist roots of hating rich people again. Welcome back

The irony being that no on e voluntarily shares with buddy
 
Alternative
#1327
Communist's are atheists.

I may believe God, the Lord and Allah.
 
HarperCons
-1
#1328
Quote: Originally Posted by Corduroy View Post

And maybe the last. Basic income has been considered a necessity as automation increases, but as automation increases the value of labour and the cost of production decreases. Capitalism doesn't cannibalizes itself and collapses as predicted, but makes itself obsolete.

i don't think it'll make itself obsolete. it's not designed as such. it's designed to grow and grow, similar to a cancer cell, until a cure is found or it kills the person.
 
Angstrom
#1329
Quote: Originally Posted by HarperCons View Post

i don't think it'll make itself obsolete. it's not designed as such. it's designed to grow and grow, similar to a cancer cell, until a cure is found or it kills the person.

Thats comunism, because it hopes to eliminate Natural selections by rewarding all including those who haven’t achieved high enough skill to achieve survival
 
HarperCons
#1330
i don't think you know what natural selection means.
 
Angstrom
#1331
Quote: Originally Posted by HarperCons View Post

i don't think you know what natural selection means.

Well until you explain it to us we can’t verify that you have any idea what it is eather. And we both know you’re to lazy to do it

Effort is more of a capitalist quality
 
Angstrom
#1332
Its so easy to predict a communist’s behaviour



Point and match
 
HarperCons
#1333
one example of natural selection is when a butterfly has the colour that blends into a something like a tree which makes it harder to see for predators, while other butterflies are colourful and easily killed by their predators.
 
OmegaOm
+1
#1334
We live in a world full of science and technology, in which hardly nobody understands anything about science and technology. This is a recipe that will soon blow up in our face.

A decades old paraphrase from Carl Sagon.

Since most people do not know anything about science, well in fact they think science is a conspiracy against them. How are they going to vote or argue against the bad things that science can bring in the hands of corrupt corporations. Like nuclear power, gene editing, global warming and such. We are facing this right now with CRISPR, an easy way to change genes that can wipe out a whole species.

Carl Sagan's goal was to try to start a path to get everybody in the world educated in science, so we can all make informed decisions about what we do to our world.

Since we live in a democratic society where all have votes if your over 18 (give or take). If most of these people do not know anything about science, you might as well have a bunch of children voting too.
Last edited by OmegaOm; Dec 16th, 2017 at 03:14 AM..
 
Walter
#1335
Quote: Originally Posted by HarperCons View Post

one example of natural selection is when a butterfly has the colour that blends into a something like a tree which makes it harder to see for predators, while other butterflies are colourful and easily killed by their predators.

Then why are there so many colourful butterflies?
 
Angstrom
#1336
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Then why are there so many colourful butterflies?

Because they attract mates with higher success.

If you’re really good at survival but no opposing sex wants to fuk you because you’re butt ugly. You’re not going to have good chance of reproduction

Its cruel but thats just how life is.
 
Walter
-1
#1337
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Because they attract mates with higher success.

If you’re really good at survival but no opposing sex wants to fuk you because you’re butt ugly. You’re not going to have good chance of reproduction

Its cruel but thats just how life is.

Then why all the ugly moths?
 
Angstrom
#1338
Quote: Originally Posted by HarperCons View Post

one example of natural selection is when a butterfly has the colour that blends into a something like a tree which makes it harder to see for predators, while other butterflies are colourful and easily killed by their predators.

Now you need to explain how this proves how I have no understanding of natural selection.

Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Then why all the ugly moths?

Because they are all ugly. Can’t see colour when you fuking in the night.

Quote: Originally Posted by OmegaOm View Post

We live in a world full of science and technology, in which hardly nobody understands anything about science and technology. This is a recipe that will soon blow up in our face.

A decades old paraphrase from Carl Sagon.

Since most people do not know anything about science, well in fact they think science is a conspiracy against them. How are they going to vote or argue against the bad things that science can bring in the hands of corrupt corporations. Like nuclear power, gene editing, global warming and such. We are facing this right now with CRISPR, an easy way to change genes that can wipe out a whole species.

Carl Sagan's goal was to try to start a path to get everybody in the world educated in science, so we can all make informed decisions about what we do to our world.

Since we live in a democratic society where all have votes if your over 18 (give or take). If most of these people do not know anything about science, you might as well have a bunch of children voting too.

95% of the population doesn’t even have the mental drive to want to understand science. Its too much work. They rather have the government take care of them and stay blissfully innocent
Last edited by Angstrom; Dec 16th, 2017 at 08:08 AM..
 
Corduroy
-1
#1339
Quote: Originally Posted by HarperCons View Post

i don't think it'll make itself obsolete. it's not designed as such. it's designed to grow and grow, similar to a cancer cell, until a cure is found or it kills the person.

It's from a bit of a thought experiment written by Karl Marx. It's called the Fragment on the Machine (Fragment meaning it's part of larger writing that I think was lost). It's basically imagining the implications of a perfect machine, one that could produce with little or no cost, maybe like the replicators on Star Trek. It's just a hypothetical, and taking theories of value, labour and production to the extreme, but if such technology existed any form of economy would be unnecessary and the only commodity that would exist is information.

What I thought you meant was that as capitalism cannibalizes its consumer base with lower wages and automation to reduce production costs and for increased profits, wealth would have to be redirected to consumers as a guaranteed minimum wage to keep people buying. But if you take the drive to reduce productions costs to the extreme and imagine the possibility of little to no production costs, such a scenario wouldn't even need consumer wealth as everything is practically free. So if the system was propped up long enough for technology to push costs to nothing, then the system becomes obsolete. It's hard to imagine how there's anything beyond a guaranteed minimum income in terms of capitalism survival methods.
 
Angstrom
+1
#1340
Quote: Originally Posted by Corduroy View Post

It's from a bit of a thought experiment written by Karl Marx. It's called the Fragment on the Machine (Fragment meaning it's part of larger writing that I think was lost). It's basically imagining the implications of a perfect machine, one that could produce with little or no cost, maybe like the replicators on Star Trek. It's just a hypothetical, and taking theories of value, labour and production to the extreme, but if such technology existed any form of economy would be unnecessary and the only commodity that would exist is information.

What I thought you meant was that as capitalism cannibalizes its consumer base with lower wages and automation to reduce production costs and for increased profits, wealth would have to be redirected to consumers as a guaranteed minimum wage to keep people buying. But if you take the drive to reduce productions costs to the extreme and imagine the possibility of little to no production costs, such a scenario wouldn't even need consumer wealth as everything is practically free. So if the system was propped up long enough for technology to push costs to nothing, then the system becomes obsolete. It's hard to imagine how there's anything beyond a guaranteed minimum income in terms of capitalism survival methods.

Like Nature pushes life to evolve into something stronger. Capitalism pushes production in the same way. Until one day we produce a technology that reduces production cost to nearly nothing. Both work in the same way as Natures Natural selection. A process some snowflakes find extremely cruel.

I call it the Trump effect

Lol
 
Walter
+1 / -2
#1341
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Like Nature pushes life to evolve into something stronger. Capitalism pushes production in the same way. Until one day we produce a technology that reduces production cost to nearly nothing. Both work in the same way as Natures Natural selection. A process some snowflakes find extremely cruel.

I call it the Trump effect

Lol

I call it the free market effect.
The First Cellphone Went on Sale 30 Years Ago for $4,000
 
Angstrom
#1342
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

I call it the free market effect.
The First Cellphone Went on Sale 30 Years Ago for $4,000

Ya but Free Market effect isn’t provocative enough for forum discussion stimulus
 
Walter
-1
#1343
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Ya but Free Market effect isn’t provocative enough for forum discussion stimulus

The free market gets my brain stimulated, and this has been a particularly good year for brain stimulation considering what my stock portfolio has done.
 
Angstrom
+1
#1344
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

The free market gets my brain stimulated, and this has been a particularly good year for brain stimulation considering what my stock portfolio has done.

Id be jealous but im not a communist
 
Walter
-1
#1345
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fJr2RO7g7jI
 
Angstrom
+1
#1346
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fJr2RO7g7jI

Capitalism is the best in the world!!! Communist is for losers
 
Cliffy
+1
#1347
Hey Angst...

 
Angstrom
#1348
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Hey Angst...

I bet they don’t produce them anymore. No one showed up to work to make them
 
darkbeaver
+1 / -2
#1349
The free market and capitalism are not related, fools.
 
DaSleeper
#1350
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post


 

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