Afghanistan will benefit our military


Retired_Can_Soldier
#1
Disclaimer: The point of this thread is not to endorse war or to shore up support for future conflicts. It is simply a reflection of past military endeavors, present active conflicts and the affect future military engagements.

Our present mission in Afghanistan has changed the future of conflict for Canada's military. Prior to the Afghan war, dating back to the war in Korea, our role around the world has been peacekeeping in which we were governed by the United Nations and limited not only in our rules of engagement, but the requirement of military in this purpose.

The requirement was laid at the feet of the Infantry and Engineers and some support trades. For other units to join a tour they would have to shed their primary role and take on the role of an Infantry Unit.

For instance, an Artillery Unit would have to train in an Infantry role in order to carry out a tour to the Former Yugoslavia or Cypress. While there is training value in infantry skills, it does little to improve the combat readiness of the Artillery Unit and its effectiveness.

At present we are engaged in Afghanistan with full land and air support. Artillery, Armoured, CBT Engineer and Infantry Units are working together effectively to complete a difficult mission against an agressive and dangerous foe.

Not since the Korean war have our soldiers been engaged in such a venture and while what I am saying here may draw fire from pacifists (no pun intended) the reality is that this will ready our soldiers for future conflicts.

Canadian soldiers and future recruits will benefit from this conflict. Training will no longer be based on fictious enemies or battlefields. The benefit to future generations of soldiers will be priceless.

Godspeed to our Troops
M
 
darkbeaver
Republican
#2
I agree that the experiance will be valuable to Canadian armed force, having been in such close quarters with American forces our forces will be well equipt to engage the imperialist capitalist pig forces when our turn comes arround, and it will.
 
The Gunslinger
#3
Quote:

I agree that the experiance will be valuable to Canadian armed force, having been in such close quarters with American forces our forces will be well equipt to engage the imperialist capitalist pig forces when our turn comes arround, and it will.

Imperialist capitalist pig forces? Maybe in some fantasy dreamworld. Get a grip dude, the Americans aren't going to invade Canada.
 
zoofer
#4
.........or suppress homegrown and imported terrorists right here.
 
Sassylassie
#5
RCS, I agree Afghanistan will benefit from our Military presense and Visa-Vie. On a side note, I wish our Air Force and Navy personel could particapate in at least one tour of duty in Afghanistan. Let us not forget some of the useless desk jockies in Ottawa, a little fire power under their asses might motivate them. Our Armys' lads and lasses are getting tired.
 
missile
Conservative
#6
Recruitment is on the up since we went over there. This is a benefit that most of us didn't see coming.
 
FiveParadox
Liberal
#7
It is unfortunate that an increase in recruitment and effectiveness of the Canadian Forces is a consequence of compromising the supremacy of the Parliament of Canada and, in particular, the House of Commons . It is unfortunate that our effectiveness in terms of the Forces abroad can only be increased through throwing the effectiveness of our democratic institutions out the doors of the Commons.
 
missile
Conservative
#8
Personally,my hope is that the 200 soon to be out of work Gun Registry workers are forcibly enlisted in the Army and sent on active duty
 
cortez
#9
this kind of post is simple a reflection of the fact the during times of peace a soldier is a nobody
- and knows it

thats why its so important for many of them for us to be at war-whether its justified or not- and even if its to appease their war criminals allies

The ideal for many of them- that pseudodisclaimer notwithstanding is-- its war time all the time

very sad
--and amusing at the same time
 
FiveParadox
Liberal
#10
I don't think you quite understand how the Canadian Forces function, cortez . While I am most certainly no expert on the Forces, having never served time therewith, I would assert that the Forces have a multitude of duties that are carried out, from day to day, in a domestic context notwithstanding whether or not Canada is currently engaged in any missions abroad.
 
cortez
#11
im referring to the psychology of the war monger miliitarists--
for whom i have no patience
whatsover
particularlly when they wrap crap in a flag and ask you to worship it

who do you work for---
paradox
 
FiveParadox
Liberal
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by cortez

who do you work for---
paradox

Clarify your inquery.
 
cortez
#13
multiple choice

a) CSIS
b) RCMP
c) Conservative party of Canada PR division
d) Governor generals office
e) any combination of the above
f) any similar organisation as the above
g) none of the above

work- could mean paid or voluntered

I Just had to ask
--
but of course you dont have to answer
 
FiveParadox
Liberal
#14
I have neither the time nor the patience today for your immature antics, cortez . If you can't engage in a proper discussion or debate, then perhaps it would be better if you would just navigate away from Canadian Content for a few hours that, or let's try a responsive post every now and then.
 
cortez
#15
you asked what i meant
i told you
how is that immature
no more immature than half the stuff thats posted here
why get upset about that
you could just take it as a joke
and laugh it off
but you didnt
so now i know

bye!
 
FiveParadox
Liberal
#16
Enough with the limerick-like posts, lest we think you a leprochaun .

My sincere apologies, cortez , my frustration is not meant for you. I have certain health-related things to attend to today, some of which make me particularly crabby. Consider my previous post thoroughly rescinded but consider this a cautionary note for the future, in terms of indirect insults. :P
 
Sassylassie
#17
Are you doing Okay Five? Let me know if I can help.
 
cortez
#18
quick paradox
what did your commanding officer tell you about how to handle a rogue leftist that smelled you out.....
you must have a contingency plan

its been a few minutes since cortez cracked the code.............
 
Sassylassie
#19
Cortez, please cut Five some slack if he says he needs it believe me he does. Please. Blowning kisses.
 
cortez
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by FiveParadox

Enough with the limerick-like posts, lest we think you a leprochaun .

My sincere apologies, cortez , my frustration is not meant for you. I have certain health-related things to attend to today, some of which make me particularly crabby. Consider my previous post thoroughly rescinded but consider this a cautionary note for the future, in terms of indirect insults. :P

no insult intended-- to you
and no apology is required from you
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by cortez

this kind of post is simple a reflection of the fact the during times of peace a soldier is a nobody
- and knows it

Sadly when someones life experience is learned through film and television their ignorance is made apparent by the uneducated statements they make.

When soldiers were not engaged in Combat they have helped the residents of Quebec during ice storms. Assisted in the flood of the Century as the rising red threatened Winnipeg. Help fight wild fires in British Columbia. While simultaneously looking for a missing girl. Just a few of the many things our proud military has done.

They do not measure their worth based on war or any other act of selflessness. Unfortunately you just don't get it.

Cortez, I need not point it out to everyone. Your ignorance speaks for itself. How about bringing something logical to the thread for a change.

M
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by Sassylassie

RCS, I agree Afghanistan will benefit from our Military presense and Visa-Vie. On a side note, I wish our Air Force and Navy personel could particapate in at least one tour of duty in Afghanistan. Let us not forget some of the useless desk jockies in Ottawa, a little fire power under their asses might motivate them. Our Armys' lads and lasses are getting tired.

Sassy I've got few Air Force friends who are over there. Minus the desk jockies, they are there in full support.
Love that strut
M
 
cortez
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver

I agree that the experiance will be valuable to Canadian armed force, having been in such close quarters with American forces our forces will be well equipt to engage the imperialist capitalist pig forces when our turn comes arround, and it will.

imperialist- capitalist PIG forces!!!!!

beaver --- you have insulted pigs everywhere
 
Sassylassie
#24
It's caused by moi playing with the other halfs power tools when he's not home. He is making his mother a Dragon Boat Oar at the moment, not that that has any thing to do with this discussion but the word Dragon and his Mother cracks me up.
 
cortez
#25
logical
very logical
 
darkbeaver
Republican
#26
My sincere apologys to pigs everywhere, it is unfortunate that I lapsed into animal abuse of the worst kind by associating them with capitalists, and our army of cowards who prefere killing citizens in a faraway land instead of the real enemy.
 
cortez
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier

Quote: Originally Posted by cortez

this kind of post is simple a reflection of the fact the during times of peace a soldier is a nobody
- and knows it

When soldiers were not engaged in Combat they have helped the residents of Quebec during ice storms. Assisted in the flood of the Century as the rising red threatened Winnipeg. Help fight wild fires in British Columbia. While simultaneously looking for a missing girl. Just a few of the many things our proud military has done.

M

let me refrase it
during times of peace-- some in the military-FEEL like they are nobodies

and how very interesting you should cite these very usefull acts- that are part of the JOB of military people during peace ie the ice storm etc
thats public money put to good use
fighting for the biggest terrorist organisation in existence-- however is NOT
but it certainly has the WOW factor doesnt it

cut and run
 
Sassylassie
#28
Not so Cortez, the military isn't there for the civies to use as a cheap work force. RCS, the military Air, Army and Navy where the first responders to Swiss Air Crash 111, our boys and girls dredged and respectfully removed human remains for weeks. These remains where then flow to Shearwater and the lads and lasses saw things few will ever see. Was it their job? No, it was an act of compassion and good Government. After Hurricane Juan again our MIlitary was there, after White Jaun what's that Sassy our Military stood at the ready. I could list a hundred different things the Canadian Military personel have done for Canada and Canadian Communities.

The Military's role is to protect our boarders, and to assist other countries when asked. Don't like that well that's really to bad, at least they stand for something. I for one don't think Canada is in a state of Peace not after September 11th. Terrorism is real, and no one will convince me other wise.

DarkBeaver who is the real enemy?
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
#29
Hey Cortez, you and the Beav really have the market cornered on childish antics.

Perhaps if the two of you put your heads together you might be able to work on some kind of rebuttal instead of the pathetic nonsensical gibberish you pass off as debate.

Then again Maybe not.

Cheers
Off to promote imperialism everywhere!
M
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
#30
Hey Sassy
Great post!
M