Obama Calls for 2 Years of Free College


tay
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President Barack Obama on Thursday proposed offering free community college nationwide, in effect extending government-funded education from kindergarten through a two-year degree.


Id like to see the first two years of community college free for everyone who is willing to work for it, Mr. Obama said in a video posted Thursday on Facebook . Its something we can accomplish and its something that will train our workforce so that we can compete with anybody in the world.


The plan, which would offset some of the $20 billion in annual tuition received by community colleges, will require legislation in a Republican-controlled Congress that already is at odds with the president over other spending issues. The concept is expected to formally be released in Mr. Obamas 2016 budget proposal, due out in February.




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Obama Calls for Two Years of Free Community College for All Students - WSJ
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Good idea. He might learn something. Like maybe that something that's "free if you're willing to work for it" ain't free.
 
gopher
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Just make the tuition tax deductible by the employer and it will serve two purposes: give a tax break for businesses, and give them incentives to hire. No need to subsidize as he is proposing.
 
lone wolf
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It will go a long way toward killing some crippling student debt
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf View Post

It will go a long way toward killing some crippling student debt

Roll it over into house and car debt.
 
gopher
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Junior college tuition is generally affordable. This is certainly so compared to private college tuition. The reform I suggested is based on something I saw years ago where a company I worked for deducted tuition of family members it hired. The executives would hire their children and deduct tuition costs on the company tax return. Since corporations are always asking for more tax breaks this is one that would serve as the incentive to hire and give the deduction they are always seeking.
 
damngrumpy
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Time for a break for individuals companies are already getting a break.
I agree in this case with Obama give the break at the source. Besides
if the current government proposes a few more middle income deals
for families and continues to push medicare for the lower middle class
it will serve as a reason to vote for the progressive groups in the up
coming election. Dive and rule while preaching unity
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Roll it over into house and car debt.

That makes the debt disappear?
 
gopher
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Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpy View Post

Time for a break for individuals companies are already getting a break.
I agree in this case with Obama give the break at the source. Besides
if the current government proposes a few more middle income deals
for families and continues to push medicare for the lower middle class
it will serve as a reason to vote for the progressive groups in the up
coming election. Dive and rule while preaching unity



The thing is this: if Obama decides to give subsidies to the poor, it will be called welfare and used by the right wing to attack him by saying it increases the national debt while the Dems remain silent. If he gives tax breaks to the rich he will be pleasing the right wing and silence his critics. Therefore, the smarter thing to do is to make the reform I suggested.

But we shall see what happens next ...
 
GreenFish66
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(Free)2 year tuition is a Good Idea.
More Literate, Better Educated Employees = Greater Success rate for Entrepreneurs, more Money for Employers...and helps ensure Needed positions are filled by qualified individuals.


BUT; as good of an idea as it may seem...Gov and Biz will find a way to manipulate the program so even these more educated workers are forced into longer hours, unrewarding Jobs/Careers, Poverty and borderline slavery. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
 
gopher
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If the companies are given the tax incentive then they assume all risk. The student will not have to re-pay the company if he/she is not hired and is still left without a mountain of debt. Meantime, he/she will have the degree and can proceed into another career or can work for someone else.
 
GreenFish66
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Some companies already have similar Education/placement programs in place. They make employees in these programs sign contracts saying they must work in that place/position for a set period of time, at a set wage(often making far less than others currently in that position).
If all employers adopt programs such as these...Good luck finding a Job/Career that will pay you for your, Now, Only Average, Education.

Yet...Still think it's a good idea to give Less Fortunate a chance to better themselves through Gov/Biz Funded Education/college programs; with the hope it will lead to success; and overall; to a more Fulfilling/Rewarding/Enjoyable Life. To a better standard of living.

Gotta ensure we maintain our 1st world Status, while at the same time, helping less fortunate.
Last edited by GreenFish66; Jan 9th, 2015 at 10:43 PM..
 
gore0bsessed
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Roll it over into house and car debt.

difficult problems to solve indeed, perhaps not being a complete moron and buying a house you can't afford, could be possible ways of alleviating such issues.
 
Ludlow
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Man I'm so tired of hearin about Obama I could puke, and I voted for him.
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ludlow View Post

Man I'm so tired of hearin about Obama I could puke, and I voted for him.

Sometimes we're the pigeons

Sometimes ... the statue
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf View Post

Sometimes we're the pigeons

Sometimes ... the statue

Pigeonhood is an illusion. We are always the statue.
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLM View Post

Pigeonhood is an illusion. We are always the statue.

Very good!

You should capitalize on that. Churches save a Hell of a lot in taxes....
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf View Post

Very good!

You should capitalize on that. Churches save a Hell of a lot in taxes....

Nah, then I'd have to do stuff. I'd rather comment sarcastically from the sidelines.