Poll : Migrating to Vista ? What version and Why ?


DurkaDurka
#31
Mikey,

I have never burned a recovery disk, I suspect it will basically copy the contents of the hidden partion on to the cd allowing you to boot the disc and do a system wipe.
 
snowles
#32
I'll have to say, the only good thing about computer manufacturers leaving the install files on the hard drive is that when people bring in their computers to get fixed because they've gotten so much ad-ware and viruses from porn sites and dodgy emails, it's easy for me to just format it for them and charge them a buttload of money. Software repairs on computers has to be one of the largest ripoffs I've ever seen; it's all profit, no work at all if you know what you're doing, and can be done without you even being there.

It doesn't matter how many times you say "Bring all of the CDs the computer came with," or "Bring the Windows Setup Disk," they never do, or they bring just the disk and not the serial number on the sleeve. At least this way with the streamlined version I can just set it and get on to selling other stuff.
 
Niflmir
#33
Quote: Originally Posted by snowles View Post

Despite their 'minimum' claims, you pretty much have to have a dual-core, 256mB video card, 2 gigs of RAM and a buttload of hard drive space for it to run even reasonably well.

That is exactly the system my wife is running and Vista is amazing on that, not just passable, I mean fantastic. There are a few minor nuisances, which are basically the equivelent of having to have a root terminal opened up in linux (so you can install stuff without hastle), but I have never seen an operating system load up in ~2s before. Even linux using twm takes more time than Vista.

Its almost like they told the truth: they went out and asked a bunch of people what bothered them about windows, and then they fixed it as best they could.

I vote for Vista. It runs amazingly smooth, and by ensuring that more people are running genuine, maybe the number of windows users will decrease and the virus writers will start targetting linux.
 
allen_p
#34
@MikeDB
New breed laptops have two or more hidden partitions - Usually One partition is for Diagnostics and second partition is for Holding Restore points(Like Ghost) or Operating System Driver Disk. so Check at least dozen times before you delete/format any partition. just my 2 cents.
@Niflmi r

Good you like Windows Vista, But for People who have a lesser hardware - Do they deserve lesser computing/functionality. Dunno.

@durkadurka
A few years - say about 2000 - Industry Experts (OS/Software) predicted that MS was gonna launch its own version of most popular softwares in Market - Symantec too was in list - MS has now its own Anti Virus and with forthcoming releases of Windows - Symantec wont even be compatible. Netscape(IE) was first to take bow. Then came Wordperfect(MS Word), then it was novell netware (Windows NT), then it Virtual Machine/vmware, Right now we have SQL Server vs Oracle, Linux vs Windows,Apache vs IIS and more . But worst part was when MS started charging Software Vendors for MS compatible Logo. MS was also charging Hardware vendors for bundling drivers for related hardware. MS also had Visual C++ or Visual basic and more.

But again its just me.
 
eh1eh
#35
Re: Symantec say Microsoft most secure OS. Well then what do we need with Symantec? That's why I swithed to Mcafee.
 
allen_p
#36
one of the reason for starting this thread was to analyze the usablity of given tool(in given case - Vista) and if pricing/ecnonomics had anything to do with choice, since MS is already a big player. What are the motivating factors - Functionality, Price, or other. Later on that.
 
eh1eh
#37
Quote: Originally Posted by allen_p View Post

one of the reason for starting this thread was to analyze the usablity of given tool(in given case - Vista) and if pricing/ecnonomics had anything to do with choice, since MS is already a big player. What are the motivating factors - Functionality, Price, or other. Later on that.

MS is the only OS besides Mac. Please don't say linux because the only kernels I know how to compile are the ones I ate yesterday. I really wish someone else would devlop an alternitive OS. I guess I should just break down and try Mac. I'll have to buy new equipment to run Vista anyway. My newest machine is an AMD 2600, and I'm maxed out at a gig of ram. Not quite going to do it for Vista. If they are supporting XP for some time to come, 2015 I heard, then I will just stick with that. To me and many current computer owners Vista is out.
 
allen_p
#38
@eh1eh

hmm... Considering Apple's OS X, based on FreeBSD - considering FreeBSD does use considerable GNU code - Dunno what to say
 
DurkaDurka
#39
I ran Vista RC2 on my old machine which was a Athlon 64 3200, 1gb of DDR400 & a Ati x800. With those modest specs, Vista ran fine with the glossy interface etc. Users with older hardware can always consider upgrading to vista home basic, which strips off the eye candy.
 
allen_p
#40
apart from Eye-candy

hmmm What about Bitlocker - Thats just to get started with comparision feature. MS has weird sense of differentiating Home users security and Business users security. More on that.
 
DurkaDurka
#41
Bitlocker is overkill for a home user in my opinion. I don't see any reason for a home user to have his whole drive encrypted. Microsoft should offer a feature reduced version of bitlocker which would allow the user to encrypt there user profile though.
 
eh1eh
#42
Quote: Originally Posted by allen_p View Post

@eh1eh

hmm... Considering Apple's OS X, based on FreeBSD - considering FreeBSD does use considerable GNU code - Dunno what to say

Still, I don't think you need to know the code to load and use a Mac.
 
DurkaDurka
#43
You don't have to know how to code anything to install and run linux. Knowledge of scripting never hurts though, if you want to do things with bash.
 
westmanguy
#44
Only thing I am going to say is: Your stupid to get Vista on your current computer or laptop!

I am stuck with XP forever on my current laptop as its uncapable and not worth the upgrade for Vista.

That being said I am not that smart when it comes to in-depth computer stuff, but this summer when I visit my tech-savy brother in Van City, I am going to buy a new desktop computer with Vista Premium.

My old desktop died a few months ago.... motherboard fried.

Only really makes sense to me to get Vista on new retail computers.
 
DurkaDurka
#45
Quote: Originally Posted by westmanguy View Post

Only really makes sense to me to get Vista on new retail computers.

2 year old pc's should be able to run it fine. They key with vista is RAM, lots of it.
 
westmanguy
#46
Fella in FutureShop said that RAM, lots of Hard Drive, and dual-processors are what you need to run Vista well.
 
allen_p
#47
@eh1eh

knowing code ? presumably no - that too for normal users - I have yet to home user running fedora doing real thing.

@Westmanguy

Thats perception But We all know - more ram you throw at windows - better it runs.

@durkadurka

Bitlocker for home users will not be overkill (duh). What about People who work from home - or budding enterprises - does that mean their information is less important , I doubt . Information Context and value is more important.
Some Corporate executive loosing laptop and Some Common Joe loosing Laptop - Of course Corporate has more to loose - But what about common joe who did his entire project and dreams of making big in software/web designing do ? dunno
 
DurkaDurka
#48
Allen,

If you work from home or you do any work considered critical or valuable, chances are you will be using Vista Ultimate or Vista Business, both of which have bitlocker and proper support for VPN's.

At most, a home user should have they C:\Users\UserName encrypted. Most home users do not have anything worth encrypting inside of C:\program files or whatever is in their temp folder.
 
allen_p
#49
@DurkaDurka

one of my friends uses Vista Business - Its not premium - It didnt had Bitlocker - Probably Vista Ultimate andd businesss premium editions have bitlocker in em. as far as normal business goes - probably no - I can do google - But would love to stand corrected on this forum.
 
DurkaDurka
#50
It's enterprise & ultimate that come with the feature. My bad
 
allen_p
#51
@durkadurka

Thank you dude !!!
 
eh1eh
#52
Here is an instruction video on the best machine to load Vista into.
 
Toro
#53
I was going to but now I'm seriously considering migrating to Apple. I'm so sick and tired of crappy Windows.
 
DurkaDurka
#54
Toro,

I take it you have had bad experiences with windows? Spyware, trojans, viri etc.
 
allen_p
#55
@toro - any specific incidence /reason for shifting to macintosh ?

Because Windows/Mac/Unix/liux all have some issues - one or other ?
 

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