Beijing to Judge Every Resident Based on Behavior by End of 2020


Danbones
#1
Bloomberg News

China capital plans ‘social credit’ system by end of 2020
Citizens with poor scores will be ‘unable to move’ a step

China’s plan to judge each of its 1.3 billion people based on their social behavior is moving a step closer to reality, with Beijing set to adopt a lifelong points program by 2021 that assigns personalized ratings for each resident.

The capital city will pool data from several departments to reward and punish some 22 million citizens based on their actions and reputations by the end of 2020, according to a plan posted on the Beijing municipal government’s website on Monday. Those with better so-called social credit will get “green channel” benefits while those who violate laws will find life more difficult.

The Beijing project will improve blacklist systems so that those deemed untrustworthy will be “unable to move even a single step,” according to the government’s plan. Xinhua reported on the proposal Tuesday, while the report posted on the municipal government’s website is dated July 18.

China has long experimented with systems that grade its citizens, rewarding good behavior with streamlined services while punishing bad actions with restrictions and penalties. Critics say such moves are fraught with risks and could lead to systems that reduce humans to little more than a report card.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...by-end-of-2020

Well, here is what you have been sold out to as well. This is what Maurice Strong, Soros, and all the other globalists communists and nazis and climate change hoaxers and various fake newsers are all about creating for you and YOUR children.

Gee, a gal just got ten years for writing lesbian scenes in a book. They pay big for reporting people who posses porn...

Yeah, that means YOU!
 
Serryah
#2
Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Bloomberg News

China capital plans ‘social credit’ system by end of 2020
Citizens with poor scores will be ‘unable to move’ a step

China’s plan to judge each of its 1.3 billion people based on their social behavior is moving a step closer to reality, with Beijing set to adopt a lifelong points program by 2021 that assigns personalized ratings for each resident.

The capital city will pool data from several departments to reward and punish some 22 million citizens based on their actions and reputations by the end of 2020, according to a plan posted on the Beijing municipal government’s website on Monday. Those with better so-called social credit will get “green channel” benefits while those who violate laws will find life more difficult.

The Beijing project will improve blacklist systems so that those deemed untrustworthy will be “unable to move even a single step,” according to the government’s plan. Xinhua reported on the proposal Tuesday, while the report posted on the municipal government’s website is dated July 18.

China has long experimented with systems that grade its citizens, rewarding good behavior with streamlined services while punishing bad actions with restrictions and penalties. Critics say such moves are fraught with risks and could lead to systems that reduce humans to little more than a report card.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...by-end-of-2020

Well, here is what you have been sold out to as well. This is what Maurice Strong, Soros, and all the other globalists communists and nazis and climate change hoaxers and various fake newsers are all about creating for you and YOUR children.

Gee, a gal just got ten years for writing lesbian scenes in a book. They pay big for reporting people who posses porn...

Yeah, that means YOU!


You're just chalk full of paranoia, aren't you?

And none of it makes sense, either. The paranoia bit I mean. Communists and Nazi's aren't even close to being the same, Climate Change 'hoaxers' aren't a real thing and fake newsers is just a catchy phrase for people who don't like to hear news they don't want to hear.

A social credit system like what is in the article isn't likely to pop up anywhere outside of China, for a lot of reasons. Mainly, no system of government would support such a system.
 
Danbones
+1
#3
Quote:

Communists and Nazi's

Left and right....What happens when two sides of a circle meet dear?

4. 61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
5. 35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
6. 20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

Paranoid? yeah I am paranoid of YOU genocidal know nothings getting us all killed.
 
MHz
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

A social credit system like what is in the article isn't likely to pop up anywhere outside of China, for a lot of reasons. Mainly, no system of government would support such a system.

The World bank is already looking at a global debit card that you get as soon as you get a birth certificate. That information can be used to estimate what you will cost society and what you will contribute based om living into old age. That is quite good on the outside as it puts the money where it belongs. The bad part is it further erodes the 'family structure' while the ones implementing it are strengthening the same thing as that will ensure they are the ones in control even though their numbers would put them as the least important members of the social ladder.
 
taxslave
+2
#5  Top Rated Post
So much for the "Everbody is Equal" thingy that socialists like to claim.
 
MHz
#6
Equal payment on every card. Jobs add to that, inherited wealth will be a thing of the past as any surplus goes back into 'the pool from which it came'.



Parents can bill the kids for room and board but the State owns them outside of the home. The ones that lose custody can come to the school and they can have lunch together to see how it is supposed to be done.
Is there a certain color ink for '1984 stuff'?
 
taxslave
+1
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Equal payment on every card. Jobs add to that, inherited wealth will be a thing of the past as any surplus goes back into 'the pool from which it came'.
Parents can bill the kids for room and board but the State owns them outside of the home. The ones that lose custody can come to the school and they can have lunch together to see how it is supposed to be done.
Is there a certain color ink for '1984 stuff'?

Blood red?
 
MHz
#8
MAGA hats are red, killing people is an industry in the US.
 
spilledthebeer
+1
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Equal payment on every card. Jobs add to that, inherited wealth will be a thing of the past as any surplus goes back into 'the pool from which it came'.



Parents can bill the kids for room and board but the State owns them outside of the home. The ones that lose custody can come to the school and they can have lunch together to see how it is supposed to be done.
Is there a certain color ink for '1984 stuff'?


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POOR MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


YOU ARE SO CLUELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


Whatever colour "ink" you write with IS the colour of 1984!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As for China judging all its people on a social scale.......SO WHAT??????????????????????????


Cdn LIE-berals have been doing that CRAP FOR MANY YEARS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That is why Our idiot Boy Justin could tell us that "he likes the way the Chinese get things done"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy Commissar is an aspiring Soviet dictator in the style of his beloved family friend Fidel Castro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy inherited his poisoned values from his Soviet father Pierre- and some Cdn civil service union Hogs were so GREEDY

they chose to ignore Pierre and his fawning praise of Chinese Soviet leader Mao - for what Pierre called Mao`s "genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy has made CLEAR his value system by referring to Cdns as "systemic racists" and by telling us that "immigrants are better Cdns by birth since the immigrants CHOSE to come to Canada"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And deliberate efforts to slant our legal system in favour of drunken native thieves- in the aftermath of the Coultan Boushie trial indicate quite clearly that LIE-beral think white people are SECOND CLASS CITIZENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or we could look at the "Lucky Moose" supermarket case- some drug addict got caught yet again- shop lifting from The Lucky Moose market in Toronto and the Chinese owner ambushed the thief and had him tied up in a van when cops arrived because some good citizen thought it was odd that bunch of angry guys would be shoving a tied and gagged figure into a van in an alley way!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently the Lucky Moose owner had the idea of dropping off the addict well out of town so he might not come back to the market any time soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And it was mid summer so the addict would not have to worry about freezing to death and of course there are homeless people and addicts living outside the Toronto core so he would have company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1



So LIE-beral justice swung into action!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The drug and theft charges against the addict were DROPPED as an inducement to get the addict to testify at the KIDNAPPING TRIAL of the Lucky Moose owner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In LIE-beral Canada a thieving drug addict IS A VICTIM and you are apparently REQUIRED to let him STEAL WHATEVER HE NEEDS from you to support his habit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Because you CANNOT COUNT on our legal system to defend you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Bone357
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

So much for the "Everbody is Equal" thingy that socialists like to claim.

Its Communism of China.

 
MHz
-1
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

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POOR MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


YOU ARE SO CLUELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
Whatever colour "ink" you write with IS the colour of 1984!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As for China judging all its people on a social scale.......SO WHAT??????????????????????????

Cdn LIE-berals have been doing that CRAP FOR MANY YEARS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only difference will be the World Bank will give food to nations that have hungry people while Canada would allow them to starve like we do today to show we are the civilized ones.
You should be privy to the shit I don't post, 1984 is before the collapse so those would be considered to be 'the good times'.


You don't have a clue what the 'universal income for all' program is do you?
 
Twin_Moose
+2
#12
Sure do know what it is, steal from the middle class and give to the poor to eliminate the middle class, creating 2 classes of people the Rich and you. If you think that crap is the way it should be god help this world because it is not going to be here long.
 
spilledthebeer
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

You're just chalk full of paranoia, aren't you?

And none of it makes sense, either. The paranoia bit I mean. Communists and Nazi's aren't even close to being the same, Climate Change 'hoaxers' aren't a real thing and fake newsers is just a catchy phrase for people who don't like to hear news they don't want to hear.

A social credit system like what is in the article isn't likely to pop up anywhere outside of China, for a lot of reasons. Mainly, no system of government would support such a system.




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PITY our POOR FOOLISH SERRYAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


She has no clue what she is talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BOTH Communists and Nazis believe they are superior to all others- and they SHARE this not so charming arrogance with Muslims!!!!!!!


Both Soviets and Nazis believe that the good of the State- meaning THE RULING PARTY- takes precedence over individual rights!!!!!!


Soviets and Nazis share this conviction that the Ruling Party IS THE STATE- with Our idiot Boy Justin and his loser LIE-berals!!!!!!!!


This is why LIE-berals are comfortable creating their Human Rights- but usually Wrong Kangaroo Courts to bully people using sloppy rules of evidence- including issues of search and seizure and lazy witness interviewing- that are NOT PERMITTED in a regular court!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And this is why LIE-berals can block ny effort by Alberta to sell oil to the outside world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For strictly political reasons- LIE-berls would rather see Canada bankrupt than let Alberta export oil!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral conviction that the needs of the ruling party take precedence over individual rights is so strong they are prepared to allow


Putin`s Russia to get rich and militarily powerful by selling oil and natural gas to the west- and then Russia can use its new found



wealth to expand its military and BULLY its neighbours such as Ukraine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Cdn LIE-berals INSIST that the environment is their major concern- and yet China wants to burn LEES COAL- but to od that they need a new supply of natural gas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So WHY do our LIE-berals REFUSE to allow export of Cdn natural gas- that burns cleaner than coal- so LIE-berals always tell us- and the Chinese are ready customers- that LIE-berals refuse to sell out gas to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How is shipping coal from Australia to China better for the environment than shipping cleaner buring natural gas from Canada to China????????



So just how far apart ARE Soviets and Nazis in their philosophy?????????



Our future prime minister Pierre Trudeau used to ride around Montreal on his harley motorcycle while wearing Nazi army uniform during the first part of WW2!!!!


Our vile Pierre went so far as to refer to the war against Nazi Germany as "British Imperialism"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Pierre Trudeau supported BOTH Hitler and Stalin- until Nazis invaded the Soviet Union!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Pierre Trudeau has been exposed as a vile and aspiring Soviet style dictator by Max and Nadine Nemni in their biography of Pierre Trudeau!!!


The Ottawa Citizen presented some startling excerpts from the book when they interviewed the Nemnis after the publication of the biography!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Consider:






There are those in Canada who desperately do not wish be believe that the Trudeau family are a pack of wretched communist revolutionaries seeking to permanently change AND DAMAGE Canada. These willfully blind Trudope supporters IGNORE all manner of evidence and cherry pick through the historical record-routinely discarding any information that does not reflect nicely through their rose coloured glasses!

LIE-berals and their followers do not wish to believe the historical record supplied by Max and Nadine Nemni-long time friends of Pierre Trudeau and staunch LIE-beral supporters. As such they were given privileged access to the voluminous writings of Our Pet. What they found about their long time friend during their writing of his biography prompts them to admit we MUST re-evaluate the position of Pierre Trudope in Cdn history.

LIE-berals scoff at the idea that Our Pet was a Nazi supporter and ignore the historical record. They DENY that Our Pet rode around suburban Montreal on his Harley Davidson wearing a Nazi army uniform-and sometimes giving the finger to Jews. They claim he only went out once on a lonely Laurention side road in a Prussian army uniform he found in the attic of his parents house-just a prank the apologists say. But such a claim defies credibility! LIE-beral defense of Trudope is laughable!

German prisoners of war were not shipped to Canada during the first world war as there was no reason to do so-they were put to work on farms and such in France and Britain. And even if some German prisoners were sent to Canada on what grounds would a grandparent Trudope purchase TWO uniforms from them and store them in the attic for 20 years.

But during the second world war-German prisoners were very frequently sent to Canada to prevent them from starting an uprising if German forces should invade Britain. With masses of Germans being sent to Canada it would be quite easy to pick up a uniform or two as temporary Nazi supporter and staunch Stalinist supporter Trudope has obviously done.

LIE-berals pick on a couple of reports that say Trudope appeared only once or twice out in the country in his alleged `Prussian` (WW1) uniform and they IGNORE other eye witness accounts of Trudope being spotted repeatedly IN Montreal in his NAZI (WW2) uniform. We may be assured that LIE-berals want to believe the best of their `hero` and so will ignore unpleasant reports!

Our Pet was a hard core communist and the Nemni`s document Pierre LEADING Cdns and others to meet with Soviet leaders in Moscow on several occasions in 1930`s. The Soviets signed a non aggression pact with Germany and this meant that Hitler became an ally of Stalin-and thus earned Trudope support. Hence, the repeated Trudope stunts in the German uniform. The Nemni`s document AND QUOTE the Trudope hostility to the `imperialist war` of Britain (and Canada) against Hitler. Soviet and Trudope friendship with Hitler ended once Nazis invaded Soviet Union.

In 1947, Trudeau was a student at the London School of Economics, founded by the Fabian Society. In the late 19th century the Fabian Society boasted an impressive list of members dedicated to alleviating conditions in what Charles Dickens referred to as the “dark satanic mills” of 19th century industrial Britain-the Fabians did good work in a time of non existent safety equipment, frequent use of child labour and repeated worker exposure to dangerous chemicals and unhealthy situations-clearly changes needed to be made! Fabian founders included H.G. Wells and George Bernard Shaw.

Sadly-the original members-responsible and sensible members of society- wanting a balanced and sensible economic operation died and were replaced by Soviet Moles- wolves in sheep’s clothing. The Fabian Society and its London School of Economics became a breeding ground for training Marxists. Professor Harold Laski, then head of the Fabian Society, was publicly advocating violent revolution at the time.

Almost twenty years later, Trudeau, about to become Prime Minister, reflected on his training and told reporter Norman DePoe that Laski is,

"the most stimulating and powerful influence he has encountered."

Its odd how many foolish things Our Pet blurted out without harming his career-and its proof that LIE-berals are far more interested in power than integrity! In the 1950`s Trudope told Toronto Telegram reporter Lubor Zink that if he ever became prime minister he “would take Canada from the past into the future via the route of radical socialism”.

Self professed life long LIE-beral supporter/journalist Peter Newman states in his book- When the Gods Changed-that the LIE-beral party lost the first election (with Paul Martin as leader) to Stephen Harper because the LIE-beral party no longer stands for anything except power and self promotion”! The same LIE-beral absence of values or real economic plan hampered Dion and Ignatieff in their runs for power. Sadly the current crop of LIE-berals have come to power thanks to their willingness to BUY civil service Working Family votes! When in doubt-BRIBE! This is what LIE-beral friends say of the party so its no wonder that others are much less complimentary!
 
spilledthebeer
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

The only difference will be the World Bank will give food to nations that have hungry people while Canada would allow them to starve like we do today to show we are the civilized ones.
You should be privy to the shit I don't post, 1984 is before the collapse so those would be considered to be 'the good times'.


You don't have a clue what the 'universal income for all' program is do you?


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The universal income program was nothing but another in long line of LIE-beral bait and switch SCAMS designed to buy votes!!!!!!!!!


Fortunately the Wynne-bag LIE-berals got dumped from office before they could fully implement it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








Here is an article with some interesting truths- that LIE-berals will HATE! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Fantasies won't fix Ontario’s broken welfare system

From Postmedia News. Published: August 11, 2018. Updated: August 11, 2018 5:57 PM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Editorials

Ontario’s Conservative government is “winding down” the basic income pilot project put into place by the former Liberal government.

Launched in 2017, the program was slated to run for three years and paid some 4,000 low-income Ontarians up to $16,989 a year, $24,027 for couples. The only string was a 50% clawback on additional earned income.

Social Services Minister Lisa MacLeod argued giving away money “with no strings attached” fails to help people break the cycle of poverty, re-enter the workforce or get their lives back on track.

(Indeed! There is ample evidence that high taxes that are beloved by LIE-berals are job killers! Otherwise why do they offer up tax breaks to the likes of |Hollywood North and our auto makers in order to save jobs? LIE-berals JUST LOVE making those dirty back room deals that favour one group over another!)

“We need to do more than just help people remain mired in poverty,” MacLeod said in a press release that also announced plans to increase social assistance payments by 3% and within 100 days “to develop and announce a sustainable Social Assistance program that focuses on helping people lift themselves out of poverty.”

Are the Tories on the right track?

(I suggest that NO govt has the ability to create good jobs for us! But Conservatives do understand that big govt and high taxes and killer debt loads ARE the main obstacles to creating more and better jobs here!)

One key attraction of income support programs is they potential to dramatically reduce bureaucracy and red tape. Paying the poor directly theoretically means fewer government workers.

(And just what is the difference between govt workers cutting welfare cheques and govt workers cutting guaranteed income cheques? The LIE-beral semantics of just how red tape can be cut by moving it from one office to another are lost on ordinary people I guess!)

However, you can’t have both a thriving poverty bureaucracy and a robust income support program without endless deficits and unsustainable debt.

That’s what the Finns discovered.

(And our LIE-berals also know that they cannot be elected without first handing out loads of gravy to civil service union Hogs and now that we have hit the debt wall and our borrowing is limited- Hogs are getting restless- and moving their support to NDP instead of suddenly stingy LIE-berals!)

Finland was widely lauded following the highly publicized launch of their own universal basic income experiment in 2017.

The Finns, among the most politically progressive people in the world, are now cancelling the program they thought would save them money.

That’s after finding they’d need to hike taxes almost 30% to support it and discovering it would increase both income inequality and the poverty rate in Finland.

Income support programs ignore inconvenient truths about actual people.

(This is the routine cause of ALL socialist policy failures! It simply ignores social and political reality! But socialism makes LIE-berals look good until the money runs out- Margaret Thatcher said it best when she pointed out: “the trouble with LIE-berals is they always run out of other peoples money”! )

When the NDP recently protested the cancellation of Ontario’s program, they trotted out one recipient who quit a job at a bank he didn’t like to join the program.

Despite an economics degree, he reported being happier getting free money and trading marketing services for free “yoga, float-therapy, psychotherapy sessions, voice-acting lessons, breath-work classes.”

Whether society ought to support welfare as a way of life for those who can earn their own living is debatable. The current Conservative government believes taxpayers should not.

The causes of poverty are rooted in complex individual and societal issues.

They include in Ontario a dysfunctional social housing system, the need for jobs, the reality of mental health and drug and alcohol addictions among some hard-to-serve recipients on assistance and a host of other issues.

What’s clear is we can’t address poverty with simplistic fantasies.

Cancelling Ontario’s futile basic income experiment was the right call.

(I suggest that another reason for poverty in Ontari-owe- in addition to the gravy grabbing tax mad antics of civil service union Hogs and vote buying LIE-berals- is the high number of unsuitable LIE-beral selected immigrants coming to Canada! It is tough enough these days getting along if you are fluent in one of our national languages and have good education- but it gets vastly harder to function if you cannot even communicate effectively and lack educational credentials! The market for pizza makers and taxi drivers and lawn care workers is already saturated! But of course LIE-berals expect to buy the most support from the ranks of those who are least able to function in Canada so the illegals are allowed to keep coming!)
 

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