Quote: Originally Posted by MHz
Yes please do look it up, the accidental deaths of those two kids would seem to be a fairly serious matter yet tribal law got jurisdiction. Surely the Jewish community would have been in favor of whatever chastisement the band thought fair. If this one was pursued for 6 years it was quite serious.
I would look it up but there is a chance I would post an article about a Jewish person being chastised by his community for crimes committed in the Gentile world instead.
If the reason for that gathering was to do with Tribal matters (the form that was mentioned) then it was tribal in nature even if the meeting was off the Reservation.
Neither of you touched on the actual question. If a 'group' can yield that much influence (to determine how Native Americans can speak to members of the same group) then should their reasons for this 'privilege' be open to examination to verify that the claims are indeed true events? Nor did you touch on the subject on if he is entitled to compensation from his false (public) accusers. That is very telling on how much power that special group has over you.
MHz....read through the transcript of what Ahenakew said, and decide for yourself
if any accusations made against this Ahenakew where "false" or not. The things this
guy says are pretty racist and ugly. From: David Ahenakew July 8, 2005 - Wikisource
"Q. You agree with them?
A. The Jews damn near owned all of Germany. Prior to the war. That, that's how Hitler came in, that he was gonna make damn sure that the Jews didn't take over Germany or Europe. That's why he fried six million of them you know.
Q. Okay. D'you think that it was a good thing that he, that he killed six million Jews? Isn't that a horrible thing?
A. Well, Jews, Jews owned the goddamn world and look at what they're doing. They're killing people in the Arab countries. I was there, I was there.
Q. I know, but how can you justify the holocaust? Six million?
A. You know, how, how do you get rid of a, a, a, you know, a disease like that that's gonna take over, that's gonna dominate, that's gonna everything, and the poor people, they ...
Q. How were they taking over Germany? How were they taking over Germany?
A. They owned the banks, they owned the factories, they owned everything. They loaned money out to the peasants knowing damn well that they can't pay it back so they took their land.
Q. Well, how is it that the Germans mounted a war effort without the Jews because the Jews by that time were gone, because a lot of the German companies were owned by Germans. And I'm talking about Krupe (phonetic).
A. In name only
Q. But the Krupe
A. In name only
Q. Krupe have made ah, some of the best guns for the German army, ah, those various chemical companies that were owned by, I mean, the Germans owned the German economy.
A. Well, I'm not gonna argue with you about the Jews.
A. Or the Germans or anybody else. All I know is what the Germans told me when I was there two years.
Q. And you believe them.
A. Of course I believe them.
Q. But they, weren't
A. Well, because I saw the Jews kill people in, in the Egypt when I was over there. And the Palestinians, the Egyptians, the, the Arabs, generally, eh. I saw them ****ing dominate everything.
Q. But wasn't Canadian army, ah, over in Europe to, to liberate the Jews, in a sense?
A. No, no, no, to liberate the world, not the Jews.
Q. To liberate the world (inaudible)
A. We didn't give a damn about the Jews.
Q. But to liberate the world from a dictatorship that was killing people, killing Jews, killing gypsies, killing homosexuals, killing all sorts of people.
A. Exactly. Wanna clean up the world. I, I don't support Hilter but I ....
Q. That's what it sounds like.
A. Well, you know, he cleaned up a hell of a lot of things, didn't he? You'd be, you'd be dominated by, you'd be owned by the Jews right now the world over. Look at a small little country like that and everybody supports them, the States, who in the hell owns many of the banks in the States, many of the corporations, many, well, look it her in Canada, ASPER.
A. (Inaudible) ASPER, he controls the media.
A. Well, what the hell does that tell you? You know, that's power.
Q. Well, what does it tell you.
A. That's ****ing power.
Q. What, what, yeah, so, he's a Jewish man that owns a bunch of newspapers but there are, there are English people, there are (inaudible). There are non-Jews that own the media companies, there are non-Jews that ....
A. Anyway, anyway, to hell with the Jews. I can't stand them and that's it.
A. Don't talk about them.
Decide for yourself.