Fishing row breaks out between Scotland and Ireland


Blackleaf
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A row has broken out between Scotland and Ireland over fishing rights around the uninhabited islet of Rockall.

The Scottish government has said it will take "enforcement action" against Irish vessels found fishing within 12 miles of Rockall from Saturday.

The UK claims sovereignty over the North Atlantic outcrop but the Irish government does not recognise the claim.

Fishing row breaks out between Scotland and Ireland


7 June 2019
BBC News



A row has broken out between Scotland and Ireland over fishing rights around the uninhabited islet of Rockall.

The Scottish government has said it will take "enforcement action" against Irish vessels found fishing within 12 miles of Rockall from Saturday.

The UK claims sovereignty over the North Atlantic outcrop but the Irish government does not recognise the claim.

Irish ministers have described Scottish government comments as "unwarranted".

However, the Scottish government said a recent increase in activity from Irish vessels around Rockall had prompted the move.

'Defend the interests'

A Scottish Government spokeswoman added: "Irish vessels, or any non-UK vessels for that matter, have never been allowed to fish in this way in the UK's territorial sea around Rockall and, despite undertaking extensive discussions with the Irish authorities on the matter, it is disappointing that this activity continues.

"It is our duty and obligation to defend the interests of Scottish fisheries and ensure compliance with well-established international law.

"We have provided an opportunity for the Irish government to warn their fishers not to fish illegally and hope that this opportunity is taken up as this will of course obviate the need to take enforcement action - which would otherwise be implemented to protect our fisheries' interests."

Image copyright Getty Images Rockall is an eroded volcano that lies 260 miles (418km) west of the Western Isles and is only 30m (100ft) wide and 21m (70ft) high above the sea.

The UK claimed Rockall in 1955, but Ireland, Iceland and Denmark have previously challenged that claim.

The Irish government's minister for agriculture, food and the marine, Michael Creed said he was trying to, "avoid a situation whereby Irish fishing vessels who continue to fish for haddock, squid and other species in the 12-mile area around Rockall are under the unwarranted threat of 'enforcement action' by the Scottish government".

He added: "However, following this sustained unilateral action by them, I have no option but to put our fishing industry on notice of the stated intention of the Scottish government."


Rockall became part of the United Kingdom in 1972

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-48559871
Last edited by Blackleaf; Jun 8th, 2019 at 05:50 AM..
 
Danbones
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Did it have a choice?
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Did it have a choice?

What?
 
Blackleaf
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What's long, black, full of seamen and f*cks Irish fishing vessels?

A British hunter-killer submarine, liked the one which sank an Irish fishing boat in 1982.

Be careful, Paddy!
 
Blackleaf
#5
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1PdN2XYkRnU
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

What's long, black, full of seamen and f*cks Irish fishing vessels?
A British hunter-killer submarine, liked the one which sank an Irish fishing boat in 1982.
Be careful, Paddy!

What's long, black and full of Acute Kipper dopes?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...submarine.html
 
Blackleaf
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Another intelligent response, I see.

I can see I'm dealing with a man of high intellectual calibre. I stand no chance.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Another intelligent response, I see.

Another response from an Ex-navy member about British sailors doing hard drugs on nuclear subs.

Here's another one, except this one is a ballistic missile Boomer:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...g-cocaine.html

The Royal Navy was great ... once.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Another response from an Ex-navy member about British sailors doing hard drugs on nuclear subs.

Sailors will be sailors.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Sailors will be sailors.

Maybe, but coke has no place on a submarine.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Maybe, but coke has no place on a submarine.

Well that's just a matter of opinion.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Well that's just a matter of opinion.

Mon, but you are an asshole.

Submarines are crazy dangerous places even when everything is running smoothly. Every single member of the crew relies 100% on every other crew member for their survival. You have to have complete faith that the guy beside you will do his job to the upmost, all of the time and you will lose faith rapidly in a dope head. This is true of any warship but there are lots of ways of hiding on a surface ship. There is nowhere to hide on a submarine and you have to be totally there, all of the tine for your shipmates as well as for yourself.

The military operates on teamwork, like no one else does.

There is no, ABSOLUTELY NO room for coke on a submarine.
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Maybe, but coke has no place on a submarine.

Given the track record of briddish subs who would go in one without something?
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Given the track record of briddish subs who would go in one without something?

Yeah ... welded steel underwear.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

Given the track record of briddish subs

Yeah. A good one.
 
Blackleaf
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Mon, but you are an asshole.
Submarines are crazy dangerous places even when everything is running smoothly. Every single member of the crew relies 100% on every other crew member for their survival. You have to have complete faith that the guy beside you will do his job to the upmost, all of the time and you will lose faith rapidly in a dope head. This is true of any warship but there are lots of ways of hiding on a surface ship. There is nowhere to hide on a submarine and you have to be totally there, all of the tine for your shipmates as well as for yourself.
The military operates on teamwork, like no one else does.
There is no, ABSOLUTELY NO room for coke on a submarine.

That's like saying there's no room for rum on a submarine.
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Yeah. A good one.

I guess you never seen the ones they pawned off on Canada. Must be 15 years ago now and they still can't leave the dock without either sinking or catching fire.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

That's like saying there's no room for rum on a submarine.

There is no room for rum on a modern submarine. They issued rum in Nelson's day to steel nerves but a machine as sophisticated as a submarine needs clear heads on board.
 
petros
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Such fuss over 1 fish.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

I guess you never seen the ones they pawned off on Canada. Must be 15 years ago now and they still can't leave the dock without either sinking or catching fire.

HMCS Chicoutimi (the one that had the fire) deployed on a 197 day patrol across the Pacific to the Asian Coast and, almost simultaneously, HMCS Windsor deployed on a 133 day patrol across the Atlantic and into the Mediterranean ... sailing independenly, fully armed patrols.

http://www.navy-marine.forces.gc.ca/...ments/jmw46086

http://youtu.be/alIINHyHhaM

Stick to what you know, Taxslave, not what you think that Terence McKenna told you about our Navy.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

What's long, black, full of seamen and f*cks Irish fishing vessels?
A British hunter-killer submarine, liked the one which sank an Irish fishing boat in 1982.
Be careful, Paddy!

Wow, your navy's tough enough to sink fishing boats?

I'm sure the potential enemies of Engerland are quaking in their boots.

Yeah, boy! Your "hunter-killer" subs can sink fishing boats! You are officially badass. That must be that "British sense of fair play," right?

Pussy. I cannot believe that Nelson's Navy has come to this. Bragging about sinking a fishing boat.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6yb5n2JEtA
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Yeah. A good one.

There is a story that is famous in our navy (early 1970s) from one of our old "O" Class submarines, Ojibwa, I think, about a visiting Brit submarine commander who was put in command of the Canadian boat for a patrol into the tropics. Well, being a Canadian submarine, it was all kitted out for operation in the North Atlantic, not in the South Seas and it as freaking hot on board ... over 100F, so the story goes, day after day. The Canadian sailors being intelligent and practical people (a fact that pissed the Brits off big time during both World Wars) stripped off their shirts and stood their watches naked from the waste up.

Well, the Kipper Commander flipped his noodle and tried putting the entire crew on charge for this flagrant disregard of naval regulations. A British sailor would never be allowed to do something so sensible and, as they were all from the lower classes anyway, would be subject to the full force of the law if they even thought of it! Brit Commander had fantasies of flogging the Kelowneals around the Fleet! The Canadian X.O. got Kipper calmed down and the next day, the entire crew turned up on watch with their shirts and caps properly on ... and not a stitch of clothing of any kind below the waist. The Brit went apoplectic, retreated to his cabin for the duration, X.O. commanded the boat and Cap't. Bligh was put off and was mailed back to Faslane "return to sender" from the earliest possible port.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

There is a story that is famous in our navy (early 1970s) from one of our old "O" Class submarines, Ojibwa, I think, about a visiting Brit submarine commander who was put in command of the Canadian boat for a patrol into the tropics. Well, being a Canadian submarine, it was all kitted out for operation in the North Atlantic, not in the South Seas and it as freaking hot on board ... over 100F, so the story goes, day after day. The Canadian sailors being intelligent and practical people (a fact that pissed the Brits off big time during both World Wars) stripped off their shirts and stood their watches naked from the waste up.
Well, the Kipper Commander flipped his noodle and tried putting the entire crew on charge for this flagrant disregard of naval regulations. A British sailor would never be allowed to do something so sensible and, as they were all from the lower classes anyway, would be subject to the full force of the law if they even thought of it! Brit Commander had fantasies of flogging the Kelowneals around the Fleet! The Canadian X.O. got Kipper calmed down and the next day, the entire crew turned up on watch with their shirts and caps properly on ... and not a stitch of clothing of any kind below the waist. The Brit went apoplectic, retreated to his cabin for the duration, X.O. commanded the boat and Cap't. Bligh was put off and was mailed back to Faslane "return to sender" from the earliest possible port.

Unfortunately, that's basically the R&R camp scene from the film The Lighthorsemen, only it's Aussie light horse instead of Canuck bubbleheads. Probably a war story.
 
Hoid
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

HMCS Chicoutimi (the one that had the fire) deployed on a 197 day patrol across the Pacific to the Asian Coast and, almost simultaneously, HMCS Windsor deployed on a 133 day patrol across the Atlantic and into the Mediterranean ... sailing independenly, fully armed patrols.

http://www.navy-marine.forces.gc.ca/...ments/jmw46086

http://youtu.be/alIINHyHhaM

Stick to what you know, Taxslave, not what you think that Terence McKenna told you about our Navy.

well there you go.Keeping Asia and Europe safe.

I wonder when they are going to patrol our coast
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

well there you go.Keeping Asia and Europe safe.
I wonder when they are going to patrol our coast

We don't have to. We signed off that part of our sovereignty to our next door neighbour at the end of the Pearson years and they now guard their borders using us as a buffer. It was done by people exactly like you. We consider ourselves to be "sovereign" but it is at the sufferance of another.

Thanks a lot.
 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

I guess you never seen the ones they pawned off on Canada. Must be 15 years ago now and they still can't leave the dock without either sinking or catching fire.

They are Canadian submarines.
 
Blackleaf
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

There is no room for rum on a modern submarine. They issued rum in Nelson's day to steel nerves but a machine as sophisticated as a submarine needs clear heads on board.

They've been drinking rum on Royal Navy ships a lot more recently than Nelson.

 
Blackleaf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Wow, your navy's tough enough to sink fishing boats?

If it wasn't I'd be rather concerned.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

They've been drinking rum on Royal Navy ships a lot more recently than Nelson.

Rum is not coke.