Fishing row breaks out between Scotland and Ireland


Tecumsehsbones
#61
Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Different generation.. the best generation.

Good at running away for sure. That being the Briddish notion of heroism.
 
Curious Cdn
#62
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

More were killed by the Indian Army in the 1984 Amritsar Massacre.
As opposed to all those Canadian troops there, who stayed and fought, of course.

No, the Canadians were sent to Siberia by the British to fight the Bolshevics in 1919 after most of the Brits had been allowed to demob. home which was quite typical of British disregard for their Colonial soldiers..
Last edited by Curious Cdn; 5 days ago at 06:18 PM..
 
Blackleaf
#63
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

No, the Canadians were sent to Siberia by the British to fight the Bolshevics in 1919 after most of the Brits had been allowed to demob. home which was quite typical of British disregard for their Colonial soldiers..

I've never heard of this before, but it seems as though it was your PM who sent them there. Nothing to do with us.

I'm reading a book about the Romanovs at the moment, written by Simon Sebag Montefiore. They were the royal house which ruled Russia for 300 years, from 1613 to 1917. The dynasty ended when the Bolsheviks herded them - including the children - into a small room and opened fire.
 
Curious Cdn
#64
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

I've never heard of this before, but it seems as though it was your PM who sent them there. Nothing to do with us.
I'm reading a book about the Romanovs at the moment, written by Simon Sebag Montefiore. They were the royal house which ruled Russia for 300 years, from 1613 to 1917. The dynasty ended when the Bolsheviks herded them - including the children - into a small room and opened fire.

The Canadian PM didn't have the authority to send Canadian troops, anywhere in 1919. Borden agreed to it but it was yet another Brit shit show.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadia...itionary_Force
 
Blackleaf
#65
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

The Canadian PM didn't have the authority to send Canadian troops, anywhere in 1919. Borden agreed to it but it was yet another Brit shit show.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadia...itionary_Force

Bollocks. Your involvement in the campaign was driven, to a significant degree (according to the article), by your PM.
 
Curious Cdn
#66
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Bollocks. Your involvement in the campaign was driven, to a significant degree (according to the article), by your PM.

Canada wasn't a fully independent country in 1919. We are now, so we don't necessarily follow you into stupid-ass, pointless quagmires like Iraq, these days.
 
Blackleaf
#67
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Canada wasn't a fully independent country in 1919. We are now, so we don't necessarily follow you into stupid-ass, pointless quagmires like Iraq, these days.

Well, let's face it, you don't do much. You're a small, feeble, liberal, country.

You all just sit at home feeling depressed in your interminably cold and long winters smoking dope and making sure your cities and other settlements are the cleanest on the world.
 
Curious Cdn
#68
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Well, let's face it, you don't do much. You're a small, feeble, liberal, country.

We were the only friend you had in 1940.

What a waste.
 
Blackleaf
#69
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

We were the only friend you had in 1940.


Not quite.
 
Curious Cdn
#70
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Not quite.

Who else?
 
Blackleaf
#71
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Who else?

Well there was the rest of the British Empire. France. Russia. Belgium. Japan. Montenegro. Serbia.
 
Blackleaf
#72
No. I'm thinking of WWI.

As far as I know, the only power that was taking on the Nazis in 1940 after the Frogs croaked was the British Empire.
 
Curious Cdn
#73
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Well there was the rest of the British Empire. France. Russia. Belgium. Japan. Montenegro. Serbia.

They were all falling like nine pins and Canada was the only one giving the UK assistance. Russia WAS NOT,your friend or ally in 1940 and they only became one when you both had a common enemy after Barbarosa. France fell. Belgium fell. Serbia fell. Montenegro fell.

Japan ... yeah, what a friend!

Oh, I forgot. You're the product of Britain's second class educational system ... a couple of years of it, anyway.
 
Hoid
#74
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

No. I'm thinking of WWI.

As far as I know, the only power that was taking on the Nazis in 1940 after the Frogs croaked was the British Empire.

Taking them on?

You ran away from them.
 
taxslave
#75
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackleaf View Post

Well, let's face it, you don't do much. You're a small, feeble, liberal, country.
You all just sit at home feeling depressed in your interminably cold and long winters smoking dope and making sure your cities and other settlements are the cleanest on the world.

A small country that has islands 4 times larger then England.
 
Blackleaf
#76
The Scottish government has said its fisheries patrols will board Irish fishing boats if they refuse to leave the waters around Rockall, as the row over fishing rights at the tiny North Atlantic islet escalates.

Scottish fisheries minister Fergus Ewing has said his government’s fisheries patrols would “invite” Irish fishing boats to “cease and desist” from what he said was “illegal” fishing around Rockall.

If they refuse, he said, “the vessel would be boarded and action taking in accordance with law”.

Mr Ewing repeatedly said the Scottish government believes that fishing by Irish boats within a 12-mile zone around Rockall is illegal, a view strongly rejected by the Irish Government.

“We will be taking appropriate action under the law to ensure illegal activity ceases,” he told RTE’s This Week programme.

“The Irish Government should tell its fishermen to cease and desist,” he said.

He said that the Scottish government was clear that it would now take “enforcement action” against Irish boats in the area.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/poli...ster-1.3919838

Law on Scotland’s side in Rockall dispute, say Irish experts

Published 13 June 2019

The law is on Scotland’s side in its dispute with Ireland over the waters of Rockall, according to two Irish maritime law experts, The Times reports.

Clive Symmons, of Trinity College Dublin, said Irish ministers were “incorrect” to assert that the Scottish government had no basis for excluding Irish fishermen from the islet’s waters.

Ireland has no “leg to stand on” in the issue and Scotland was “within its rights” to threaten to enforce them, he said.

Ronán Long, who is chairman of ocean governance and law of the sea at the World Maritime University, agreed.

Under the UN Convention for the Law of the Sea (Unclos), rocks can generate 12-mile territorial sea limits.

After Scotland warned it would enforce the restriction around Rockall from 7 June, Ireland’s Foreign Affairs Minister Simon Coveney and Fisheries Minister Michael Creed challenged its right to do so.

They both cited Article 121 Unclos, which provides that “rocks which cannot sustain human habitation or economic life of their own shall have no economic exclusion zone or continental shelf”.

But Professors Symmons and Long said this did not mean such rocks could not generate “territorial limits”, an argument similar to that made by Rural Economy Secretary Fergus Ewing.

Once the UK leaves the EU, Irish and EU vessels will no longer enjoy any rights to fish in British waters, Professor Long explained.

In the Dáil yesterday, Taoiseach Leo Varadkar said: “The waters around Rockall are part of the UK’s exclusive economic zone and they accordingly form part of the European Union waters under the common fisheries policy, to which the principle of equal access for all European vessels, including Irish vessels, applies. Irish vessels have operated unhindered in the Rockall zone for decades, fishing haddock, squid and other species.”

https://www.scottishlegal.com/articl...-irish-experts
 
Blackleaf
#77
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

A small country that has islands 4 times larger then England.

What's geographical size got to do with it?
 
Blackleaf
#78
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Taking them on?
You ran away from them.

So did you.