Americans are depressed and suicidal because something is wrong with our culture


Cliffy
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Americans are depressed and suicidal because something is wrong with our culture

Don't pathologize the despair that is a rational response to a culture that values people based on ever escalating financial and personal achievements.

In September of 2004, I received the call that every person dreads: my father had dropped dead of a heart attack at the age of 61. It came at a time I was already grappling with other issues, including watching my mother fight breast cancer for the preceding six months, a breakup with a boyfriend and a lack of structure in my life as I was freelancing as a consultant while I tried to determine what I wanted to do next with my career.
I was in an emotional free-fall, so I visited a psychiatrist. He said the antidepressant my general practitioner prescribed to help with my life-long struggle with anxiety wasn't what I needed, so he prescribed a new one. This seemed to only make things worse. Within a few days, I found myself thinking the unthinkable: I want to die.
I couldn’t imagine a life without my father and our hours-long conversations about, well, everything. The pain was debilitating, getting out of bed was an Olympian event, and life was utterly devoid of meaning. I stopped eating and shed 15 pounds in a month. I couldn’t see any reason to be alive.
I’ve thought a lot about this period following the suicides of Kate Spade and Anthony Bourdain, two people who by public appearances seemed to be living their best lives. We also learned this week that suicide rates increased 25% nationally, making it a national crisis.
I decided to share my story after interviewing John Draper, director of the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, who happens to be my future brother-in-law. “What people don’t really know is that there is research that shows the media can reduce suicide,” Draper told me. “What creates a contagion effect is when the media focus mostly on the suicide and the way the person killed themselves. If people are more open about talking about coping through suicidal experiences, and the media highlight those stories, the evidence is very clear that this has a very positive effect on getting people through a suicidal crisis.”



More: http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinio...umn/687388002/
 
Curious Cdn
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No, no, no! Americans are suicidal because of Justin Trudeau and Canadian dairy farmers!

Try to keep up.
 
Hoof Hearted
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Part of it is young people are living their whole lives...experiencing everything... before the age of twenty. Then they turn around and ask, "Now I gotta go to work for the next 35 years??"

Technology was supposed to make our lives easier. It's done the complete opposite. In the workplace, instead of doing 5 things well...now employees are doing 20 things half-assed. Pressure everywhere. Nickel and dime at every turn. Our brains aren't getting proper rest. We're all wired up 24/7/365 now.

I bet suicide stats during the Industrial Revolution were probably comparable, but I haven't researched/ googled it...just guessing.
Last edited by Hoof Hearted; Jun 10th, 2018 at 02:12 PM..
 
AncientMuse
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Americans are depressed and suicidal because something is wrong with our culture

Well, it's not rocket science...

Gee, USA Today... I wonder what gave it away for you to have figured this out all on your own ?

- Is it the mass shootings every second day ?
- Gangs taking over entire cities ?
- Tens of thousands of homeless people sleeping on the streets ?
- Veterans with physical and mental health issues unable to get proper housing and medical care ?
- Ghettos in just about every city that looks like 3rd world countries ?
- African-Americans getting slaughtered in the streets by the very people who are supposed to "protect and serve" ?
- The hatred and vitriol that spews back and forth between right-wingers and left-wingers each and every day ?
- Or maybe it's all the pharmaceutical drugs being advertised on tv every 15 minutes like it's candy ?


Just what was it exactly that tipped you off ?

 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

No, no, no! Americans are suicidal because of Justin Trudeau and Canadian dairy farmers!

Try to keep up.

Yep, it's terribly depressing. And what with free availibilty of guns and all. . .
 
darkbeaver
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Imperial decay.
 
Hoid
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Every day its something else stupid and disheartening and depressing.

IF ever a stat was logical it is the increasing suicide rate in America.
 
darkbeaver
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There are an estimated 93 million unemployed Americans and of those employed many are deeply in debt. The famous dream seems to have become a nightmare for many Americans
 
Hoid
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Is there something wrong with a culture where people commit massacres at schools as a regular sort of thing?

Yes. There is.

What does it teach the young members of that culture?

That massacring children is normal.
Last edited by Hoid; Jun 10th, 2018 at 04:41 PM..
 
darkbeaver
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Is the U.S. in a depression? (How John Williams became America’s most important statistician)

Written by Peter Diekmeyer, Sprott Money News
America’s economy has been progressing steadily. First quarter real GDP growth came in 2.2%. The official unemployment rate is 3.8%. Inflation, according to the Fed’s preferred measure is 2%.

But how accurate are those numbers?
“Nonsensical,” says John Williams, founder of Shadow Government Statistics, who has been tracking U.S. government data for more than three decades.
Williams reckons that, using traditional calculation methodologies, true inflation is likely running above 6% and the unemployment rate over 20%.
Most importantly, Williams’ calculations suggest that the US economy has been in a two decade-long depression. His line of reasoning is worth a look.
Underestimating inflation
Williams argues that U.S. statistical agencies overestimate GDP data by underestimating the inflation deflator they use in the calculation.
Manipulating the inflation rate, Williams argues in Public Comment on Inflation Measurement , also enables the US government to pay out pensioners less than they were promised, by fudging cost of living adjustments.
This manipulation has ironically taken place quite openly over decades, as successive Republican and Democratic administrations made “improvements” in the way they calculated the data.
http:////www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...t-statistician

These adjustments (such as hedonic adjustments to inflation calculations, or not counting people who have stopped looking for work as part of the labor force) inevitably cast the government’s numbers in a more favorable light.
However, mainstream media journalists tend to have a poor grasp of mathematics. They were thus unable to grasp the depth of the problem, let alone explain the issues to the public.
Politicians have thus been able to fudge economic data openly. For example, the chart below shows U.S. GDP growth as measured by official sources.











 
Hoid
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Is there something wrong with a culture that is led by a liar?

Yes. There is.

What does it teach the young members of that culture?

It teaches that lying is normal.
 
Walter
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Faith in God is missing.
 
Hoid
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Understandably so.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Faith in God is missing.

No, real belief in Jesus is missing ... not the mean-spirited Evangelical anti-Christ version that passes for "old time religion".
 
Hoid
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How could anyone live in America and believe in God?

Last edited by Hoid; Jun 10th, 2018 at 06:17 PM..
 
Murphy
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When you're older, and travel in the US, you won't be prone to making foolish comments like that. Waldo, you don't want to end up like Cliffy. But he is amusing to watch.
 
Cliffy
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Speak of depression and Smurphy shows up.
 
Murphy
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Shush. The only good thing about you is that you will soon be an organ donor.

And Waldo can learn something. Don't be like Cliffy.

Bath time soon, Cliffy. You drooled all over your pants!
 
Walter
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A Modest Observation About Suicide
https://pjmedia.com/andrewklavan/a-m...about-suicide/
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Faith in God is missing.


Absolute proof of God is missing. Faith is the problem with lower order understaning of God which is the result of poor education. Do you want to just believe or do you want to know? There,s a great difference.
 
petros
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Proof is abundant.

Acceptance of proof is the missing part.

You yourself are proof enough and no search or quest needed.
 
Danbones
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Depression and suicide, It's a freakin medical issue which appears as a mental one for profit reasons.

but hey, people can paint the water bright black all they want.
 
justlooking
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Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

Depression and suicide, It's a freakin medical issue which appears as a mental one for profit reasons.
.


This.
Stay off the drugs and you'll be much better off.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Proof is abundant.

Acceptance of proof is the missing part.

You yourself are proof enough and no search or quest needed.


I agree, proof is abundant.
 
Danbones
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200 proof prefered.


moon shine instead of moon beams.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Danbones View Post

200 proof prefered.


moon shine instead of moon beams.

That'll melt your brain cell.
 
Hoid
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Donald Trump's G7 Tweets Were Depressing, Says Angela Merkel

Trump doing his bit for globalization as he spreads his depression inducing stupidity far and wide.

German Chancellor Angela Merke called President Donald Trump’s choice to break ranks with U.S. allies by backing out of a joint statement on social media and then deriding foreign leaders “a little depressing.
 
Cliffy
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This could also be why so many people are becoming depressed...


 
petros
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Drugs. Especially mushrooms.
 
JLM
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Only an idiot gets upset about culture!

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

This could also be why so many people are becoming depressed...


I guess that's the worst half of the story. How much forest has been replanted?