SRT* (an another interpretation)


socratus
#1
SRT (an another interpretation)
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One postulate of SRT says:
the speed of quantum of light in vacuum is constant (c=1)

Another postulate of SRT says:
all movements (including the constant speed of quantum of light)
are relative motions in the respect to an absolute aether* medium T=0K.

It is possible if constant speed of quantum of light is minimal and
quantum of light can have speed faster than minimal (c>1).
(tachyon solution).

Third* postulate says:
the speed of quantum of light is independent of its source.

It is possible only if the source of its speed is self-quantum action (h or h/2pi).

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Curious Cdn
#2
Does that mean that Einstein was wrong about the speed of light being a limit?
 
MHz
#3
Or that gravity can affect the path light travels?? (and thus it's speed)
 
socratus
#4
Sorry, I want to rewrite my post.
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1. Light quanta move trough an absolute aether medium: T=0K.
a) this was Maxwell and Lorenz point of view.
b) Minkowski hid this absolute aether medium into mathematical unity
of 4D spacetime (an other name is : negative -2D Pseudo-Euclidian space)

2) the speed of quantum of light in zero vacuum (T=0K) is constant (c=1)

3) all movements (including the constant speed of quantum of light)
are relative motions in the respect to an absolute aether medium T=0K.

4) It is possible if constant speed of quantum of light is minimal and
quantum of light can have speed faster than minimal (c>1).
(tachyon solution).

5) the speed of quantum of light is independent of its source.
It is possible only if the source of its speed is self-quantum action (h or h/2pi).
The result of self-quantum action is described by Lorenz transformations.
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socratus
#5
By the way,
Minkowski 4D spacetime is as absolute reference frame as the aether medium.

The views of space and time which I wish to lay before you have sprung from the soil
of experimental physics, and therein lies their strength. They are radical. Henceforth,
space by itself, and time by itself, are doomed to fade away into mere shadows,
and only a kind of union of the two will preserve an independent reality.
Minkowski. (1908

Then, why do we need complex mathematical equations
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minkowski_space) to explain that 2+2=4,
what Minkowski spacetime is a simple T=0K ?
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Angstrom
#6
Maybe light is timeless, rather then traveling fast

Being “timeless”. Could give us the perspective that it travels fast

But in fact, Is simply not affected by the energy pushing the universe forward in time.
 
MHz
#7
If time is constant then everything involved with it is also. Time may seem to vary when a person's emotions are added to the mix and emotions are a variable that rules over time even though the speeding up and slowing down is not a constant.

Time and light also have a start and an end, emotions flow one to another without any gaps.
 
socratus
#8
1) We live on planet Earth therefore when we say time it must mean gravity-time.
Gravity-time depends on its masses and speed.
Without gravity-masses we don't have time.
SRT is theory without gravity, without gravity-mass therefore it seems that
SRT is a timeless theory.

2) But indeed, SRT does speak about a time.
It can mean that the subject of SRT is not gravity-time, but time that belongs to the
individual quantum particles. These quantum particles have no gravity-mass, but
they have pure energy-mass. And this pure energy mass of quantum particles
depend on their own speed/ spin. (h or h/2pi).
Different value of spin of quantum particles create their individual energy-time.

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darkbeaver
#9
Gravity defies any concept of time except now.
 
Angstrom
#10
I always imagined gravity only being a side effect of the energy pushing the universe forward in time.

Like electricity converted into production of light, also creates unwanted heat. Gravity is the “heat” produced as a consequence of all that energy pushing the universe forward in time.

But its like different objects based on mass do not experience time in the same way, creating a illusion that they travel fast relatively to our experience of time.

The same way some objects, usually bigger, seem to move very slowly, but this is a illusion only created by time effectively not effecting them in the same way that we are experiencing.

Maybe its why children can develop so fast. Their small mass means they are not affected by time in the same way
 
DaSleeper
#11
?????
 
Angstrom
#12
Smoke a fat bat if you want to get into this conversation Das. Maybe even two since its you.
 
DaSleeper
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Angstrom
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper View Post

Thanks Das, i was starting to miss that meme
 
socratus
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

I always imagined gravity only being a side effect of the energy pushing the universe forward in time.

Gravity is the “heat” produced as a consequence of all that energy pushing the universe forward in time.


Gravity takes its beginning as a heat produced by quantum particles (k)
that were pushed in movement by energy-mass particles (h/2pi )

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Angstrom
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by socratus View Post

Gravity takes its beginning as a heat produced by quantum particles (k)
that were pushed in movement by energy-mass particles (h/2pi )

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The passage of time can’t happen without some kind of energy producing it.

Then perhaps this energy-mass particle is what drives the universe forward in time.

Bigger masses like planets and sun’s require more of this energy to travel forward in time then smaller objects. The difference in energy required creates the situation that different size masses will experience time Differently

This is what you call the 4th dimension?

Light is so small it experiences time diffently then us. Making it seem like it travels very fast.

The same way a human embryo seems to grow at Amazing rates. More due to it being so small it experiences time differently. To us it looks like it is growing fast. But in reality time is at a different rate for the embryo
Last edited by Angstrom; Nov 1st, 2017 at 11:52 AM..
 
darkbeaver
#17
Gravity is a product of the strongest force in the universe,electro magnetism, period, no spooky blinking in and out of reality particles. And that is only disputed by mathmatical physicists who in fact aren't physicists because math is not physics.
Pure mathmatics does not adhere to the scientific method therefore it isn't science but speculative numerology only.
 
DaSleeper
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darkbeaver
#19
There's no question that what I posted is the truth. Who you goin to believe me or that nutcase Einstien.
 
DaSleeper
#20
That's a trick question......ain't it?
 
Angstrom
#21
 
socratus
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

Gravity is a product of the strongest force in the universe,electro magnetism,

Electromagnetic force is about 10^36 more powerful than gravitational force.
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Angstrom
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by socratus View Post

Electromagnetic force is about 10^36 more powerful than gravitational force.
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So, Doc. Are we going nake it back to the future alright then?
 
socratus
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

So, Doc. Are we going nake it back to the future alright then?

So, if EM force is about 10^36 more powerful than gravitational force,
then a few electrons wouldn't allow gravity to gather all masses of universe
into a singular point and later create the modern and famous BB theory.
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Angstrom
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by socratus View Post

So, if EM force is about 10^36 more powerful than gravitational force,
then a few electrons wouldn't allow gravity to gather all masses of universe
into a singular point and later create the modern and famous BB theory.
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Black Berry theory
 
socratus
#26
Was Einstein wrong?
Paul Davies 2003:
The idea of a variable speed of light, championed
by an angry young scientist, could one day topple Einstein's theory of relativity.
Einstein's famous equation E=mc^2 is the only scientific formula
known to just about everyone. The "c" here stands for the speed of light.
It is one of the most fundamental of the basic constants of physics. Or is it?
In recent years a few maverick scientists have claimed that the speed of light
might not be constant at all. Shock, horror!
Does this mean the next Great Revolution in Science is just around the corner?

Was Einstein wrong? | Prospect Magazine
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socratus
#27
In 1908 Minkowski showed that everything that happened in SRT took
place in an absolute 4-dimensions spacetime. This solution was adopted
by all scientific community.
However, if SRT explains some real quantum action, then the mathematical absolute
4-dimensions spacetime also must be some real absolute reference frame,
but in the books about SRT it is impossible to find the real
(not mathematical) image of 4-dimensions spacetime.
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Last edited by socratus; Nov 14th, 2017 at 08:19 AM..
 
darkbeaver
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by socratus View Post

Electromagnetic force is about 10^36 more powerful than gravitational force.
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Yes it is but gravity is indevisable from the electromagnetic force.

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/201...se-space-news/

Gravity in the electric universe. A very interesting short lecture.

"If you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.” Halton Arp one of of the greatest scientist ever. see redshift
 
socratus
+1
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

Yes it is but gravity is indevisable from the electromagnetic force.

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/201...se-space-news/

Gravity in the electric universe. A very interesting short lecture.

"If you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education,
then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.”
Halton Arp one of of the greatest scientist ever. see redshift

Gravity in the Electric Universe
Where does gravity fit in the electric universe?
Contrary to a fairly common misperception, the electric universe does not deny
gravity’s existence, nor its role in the cosmos and our own world.
Rather, the electric universe theory, as proposed by physicist Wal Thornhill,
suggests that the fundamental mysteries of gravity may be explained
by the electrical structure of matter.

https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/201...se-space-news/

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My opinion.
Zero Vacuum (T=0K) is itself some kind of an Infinity Energy continuum ( universe).
Where does gravity fit in the infinity T=0K electric-energy universe?

a) according to quantum theory the Zero Vacuum (T=0K) being energy continuum
can create only potential - virtual negative energy particles: -E=Mc^2.
b) these potential - virtual negative energy particles: -E=Mc^2 somehow
can transformed themselves into real energetic particles: E=h*f
c) these real energetic particles somehow can create local gravity - solar system.
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Gravity is indivisible from the electromagnetic force.
To create local gravity - solar system is needed EM force.
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socratus
+1
#30
A strange new world of light.
Date:
November 2, 2017
Source:
Harvard John A. Paulson School of Engineering and Applied Sciences

There's nothing new thing under the sun -- except maybe light itself.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...1102141857.htm
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