Please, look this picture.

darkbeaver
#31
Quote: Originally Posted by socratus View Post

Ironically, you contradict yourself.
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You have imagined a contradiction in addition to the numerous other contradictions you deal in.
 
darkbeaver
#32
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Many scientists believe in God.


The God thing is not a big leap into mumbo jumbo junk thinking Void Im sure everyone of us has a God/cause. Myself, well I was obviously created from the dregs in some beer bag left unattended in the corner of some ancient cave. Somehow at some point later in time my family became important in brewing and conquered the world a few months later with little or no input excepting urine of course which certainly is indicative of advancement in the material world. The invention of beer is relegated to the lower order of human achievement however such is not the case as history amply demonstrates. No advancement whatever would have occured had beer production .not been perfected early in human developement. It is no secret that Einstien, Rutherford, Velekovsky, Russell, Splinekosky and Erectorious Bonner were all avid beer drinkers and notable contributors to these days excuse for science.

 
MHz
#33
When was the still invented??
Your snowblower break-down?
 
socratus
+1
#34
Quote: Originally Posted by socratus View Post

P.S.
The Universe as whole is homogeneous.
''the Fabric of space, time, heat and everything''
is an ‘open’ and an infinite flat continuum.
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Practically, the infinity arises in many experiments, but the
solution was given mathematically by so called ''renormalization''.
‘' If we want that the theory would be correct,
the infinity should be eliminated’ . . . by the ''method of renormalization''
And Feynman wrote:
'' using this method we can these infinities sweep under a carpet ''
/ Book: The Character of Physical Law. Lecture 7. /
Therefore:
''Infinity is the cause of the crisis in Physics.''
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity
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MHz
#35
''Infinity is the cause of the crisis in Physics.''


Unlike bullshit science?? Do you want 30,000 recent examples.
 
darkbeaver
#36
Quote: Originally Posted by socratus View Post

Practically, the infinity arises in many experiments, but the
solution was given mathematically by so called ''renormalization''.
‘' If we want that the theory would be correct,
the infinity should be eliminated’ . . . by the ''method of renormalization''
And Feynman wrote:
'' using this method we can these infinities sweep under a carpet ''
/ Book: The Character of Physical Law. Lecture 7. /
Therefore:
''Infinity is the cause of the crisis in Physics.''
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity
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Infinity defies human capacity.
 
socratus
+1
#37
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

''Infinity is the cause of the crisis in Physics.''


Unlike bullshit science?? Do you want 30,000 recent examples.

PHYSICS 12 July 2017
Five things physicists hate about physics
By Richard Webb
1 - The quantum multiverse
2 - Time
3 - The cosmological constant
4 - Infinity
5 - The heat death of the universe
https://www.newscientist.com/article...about-physics/
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socratus
#38
GRAVITY
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1 - Newton's gravity.
Newton explained gravity from Earthly point of view
( as a boy playing on the beach of an ocean)
Newton explained gravity as interaction between two bodies
in the flat Solar system.
( no curved, no distorted, no bent or warped space )
2 - Einstein's gravity.
Einstein explained gravity from Cosmic point of view
( as a boy flying at speed of light )
Einstein explained gravity when there is only one single body (gravity-masses)
These gravity-masses (of Sun) distorted the flat continuum of the Universe
only in Its very small , local region
The local space around Sun's gravity-masses is changed / warped.
Not the all flat continuum of the Universe was curved, only a small,
local region was changed around the Sun.
3 - What is caused the light / photon to change their straight way
in the Universe: the gravity-masses or the warm / hot atmosphere
temperature around Sun ?
( the cold light / photons automatically flow in the warm / hot region,
like a cold air enters in your warm room when window is opened)
4 - It is very possible that light / photons change their way by sum
of two factors ( the hot temperature + gravity-masses ) and this
one factor ( the hot temperature of accelerated gravity-masses )
keeps a gravity-Sun be our ''living-Sun''
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Curious Cdn
+2
#39  Top Rated Post
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post


Infinity defies human capacity.

infinity costs more than Acura.
 
Curious Cdn
+2
#40  Top Rated Post
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post


Infinity defies human capacity.

infinity costs more than Acura.
 
socratus
#41
1 - Newton's inverse square law is right to explain
the interaction between two (2) gravity-bodies.

2 - Einstein's GRT equation is right to explain
effect of gravity for one (1) single gravity-body.
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Curious Cdn
#42
Quote: Originally Posted by socratus View Post

1 - Newton's inverse square law is right to explain
the interaction between two (2) gravity-bodies.
2 - Einstein's GRT equation is right to explain
effect of gravity for one (1) single gravity-body.
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I always found Coulomb to be attractive, myself.
 
MHz
#43
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post


Infinity defies human capacity.

'Gentlemen, start your engines, the Demo Derby has began.
 
socratus
+1
#44
My conclusion:
1 - gravity is the weakest ''force'' in nature
2 - gravity is about 10^36 times weaker than EM force
3 - ''gravitational waves'' distort space only by about a factor of 10^-20
4 - gravity is only a local effect in the universe
5 - the concept ''Gravity'' cannot be used to the universe as whole
(for example:
Gravity cannot gather all matter of universe into ''singular point'' for
''big-bang'' as ''modern philosophy of science'' teach us today)
========
 
socratus
#45
GRT - 1915 / my opinion /
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The basis of modern cosmology is Einstein's GRT
GRT equations predict:
1- in the early moment the entire universe was contained in
a ''singularity'', where the mass was enormous, the volume was zero,
the density was infinite.
2 - somehow this ''singularity'' was ''expanded'' to the sizes of a star
3- the gravity-masses of star distorted the absolute ''spacetime'' of the universe.
4 - the quantum particles change their straight way moving near star's masses.
5 - all billion stars in billion galaxies obey Einstein's ''GRT'' scheme.
6 - all billion and billion galaxies are only about 5% of all mass/energy
in the absolute ''spacetime'' continuum.
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socratus
#46
If everything was started from ''singularity'' then we need
to pay more attention on concept ''singularity''.
#
''Singularity'' is not only ''a point''.
''Singularity'' is also ''a place''.
''A place'' where the mass is enormous, the volume is zero,
the density is infinite, and the time is zero.
Somehow this ''singularity place'' was ''expanded''
Who ''expanded'' this ''singularity place'' ?
In my opinion, it can be only a Zero point energy.
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Curious Cdn
#47
If it's all just an expanded singularity, it has to be finite, innit?
 
socratus
+1
#48
We know.
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1 - we know: the early universe started from '' a hot singularity'',
where mass is enormous, the volume zero, the density infinite
and time is zero.
2 - we know: more than 95% of substance in the universe is a
dark energy / matter.
3 - we know : only about 5% of matter is contained in a ''big bang''
4 - we know: ''a hot singularity'' (with less than 5% of matter in
the universe) is a basis for modern philosophy of science.
5 - we know: psychologists tell us we use only about 10%
of our brain power.
6 - we can understand : ≈ 10% of our brain power can discover
only less than 5% of matter in the universe
7 - we know: modern scientific / philosophical knowledge
doesn't obey our everyday common logic.
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socratus
#49
I know.
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1 - i know: Newton's gravity describes that two objects with mass
feel toward each other.
2 - i know: Einstein's gravity describes that a single object with mass
distorts the space and time around it in such a way that causes
light in the vicinity to curve toward that object.
3 - i know: Newton's and Einstein's matter are less than 5% in the universe
4 - i know: these ≈ 5% of matter can bend only ≈ 5% of universe's space
5 - i know: the rest space of the universe (+ 95%) is flat continuum.
6 - i know: this simple arithmetic is hard to adopt.
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socratus
#50
Gravity: Spinning Galaxies and Dark Matter
==
Measurements showed that the galaxies were spinning
faster than was predicted by how many stars they contemned.
In other words, the stars should be flying off the edges of the
galaxies -- the gravity law should not be working.
In order to explain the high rotation speed (and save the gravity law
in each galaxy) astronomers needed to add a huge amount of
''dark matter'' to each galaxy in their calculation so all the stars
held together.
Dark matter helps normal matter clump together.
Dark matter saves gravity law in each galaxy.
Without dark matter gravity law doesn't work in galaxy.
#
Question remains: what is dark matter made of ?
Short answer: we have no idea.
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darkbeaver
#51
Quote: Originally Posted by socratus View Post

I know.
===
1 - i know: Newton's gravity describes that two objects with mass
feel toward each other.
2 - i know: Einstein's gravity describes that a single object with mass
distorts the space and time around it in such a way that causes
light in the vicinity to curve toward that object.
3 - i know: Newton's and Einstein's matter are less than 5% in the universe
4 - i know: these ≈ 5% of matter can bend only ≈ 5% of universe's space
5 - i know: the rest space of the universe (+ 95%) is flat continuum.
6 - i know: this simple arithmetic is hard to adopt.
============





Empty space cannot be expanded distorted packaged painted illuminated, time is an unmovable concept. Please define gravity, in english, don,t use any knumbers. I own a pipe bender. Am I to believe that machine also bends the space occupied by the section of pipe being bent? How much is 5% of infinite?
 
darkbeaver
#52
16:58
What is Time? | Space News




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vltlOA8XE
 
socratus
#53
Quote: Originally Posted by socratus View Post

Gravity: Spinning Galaxies and Dark Matter
==
Measurements showed that the galaxies were spinning
faster than was predicted by how many stars they contemned.
In other words, the stars should be flying off the edges of the
galaxies -- the gravity law should not be working.
In order to explain the high rotation speed (and save the gravity law
in each galaxy) astronomers needed to add a huge amount of
''dark matter'' to each galaxy in their calculation so all the stars
held together.
Dark matter helps normal matter clump together.
Dark matter saves gravity law in each galaxy.
Without dark matter gravity law doesn't work in galaxy.
#
Question remains: what is dark matter made of ?
Short answer: we have no idea.
=========

Dark matter is needed to add so all the stars held together.
Dark matter helps normal matter clump together.
Dark matter saves gravity law in each galaxy.
Without dark matter gravity law doesn't work in galaxy.
#
In other words, there are two kinds of gravity in each galaxy:
a) normal (Newton - Einstein ) matter gravity and
b) dark matter gravity.
Dark matter gravity supports keep balance of matter in
each gravity system.
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darkbeaver
#54
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socratus
#55
Gravity: Dark matter + Antimatter
=
1 - dark matter is 27% in universe
2 - normal matter is 5% in universe,
it means anti-matter must be also 5%.
So, dark-matter cannot be anti-matter
#
1 - dark matter has stuff and therefore
must feel gravity (takes part in gravity process)
But it doesn't reflect light or give off light
It means dark matter doesn't have electromagnetic
force (doesn't have electric charge)
2- we don't know what kind of particles it is made of
3 - anti-matter is made of anti-particles
Anti-particles have their own pure electric charge.
So, dark-matter cannot be anti-matter
#
1 - if dark matter doesn't have electric charge (neither normal,
nor anti-normal) then it is passive stuff
2 - the gravity-matter is the weakest force
(it is about 10^36 times weaker than the EM force)
3 - antimatter force is also 10^36 stronger than dark-matter
It means, anti-force has enough power to manipulate
with passive dark-matter to create black - gravity effect
#
To create ''normal-gravity'' is needed energy and matter
Antimatter is source of energy and dark-matter is source of mass
Their interaction can (with logW of probability) create black- gravity effect
With time black-gravity evolves into normal-gravity effect
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darkbeaver
#56
Quote: Originally Posted by socratus View Post

Gravity: Dark matter + Antimatter
=
1 - dark matter is 27% in universe
2 - normal matter is 5% in universe,
it means anti-matter must be also 5%.
So, dark-matter cannot be anti-matter
#
1 - dark matter has stuff and therefore
must feel gravity (takes part in gravity process)
But it doesn't reflect light or give off light
It means dark matter doesn't have electromagnetic
force (doesn't have electric charge)
2- we don't know what kind of particles it is made of
3 - anti-matter is made of anti-particles
Anti-particles have their own pure electric charge.
So, dark-matter cannot be anti-matter
#
1 - if dark matter doesn't have electric charge (neither normal,
nor anti-normal) then it is passive stuff
2 - the gravity-matter is the weakest force
(it is about 10^36 times weaker than the EM force)
3 - antimatter force is also 10^36 stronger than dark-matter
It means, anti-force has enough power to manipulate
with passive dark-matter to create black - gravity effect
#
To create ''normal-gravity'' is needed energy and matter
Antimatter is source of energy and dark-matter is source of mass
Their interaction can (with logW of probability) create black- gravity effect
With time black-gravity evolves into normal-gravity effect
===



The universe is infinite therefore you have absolutely no way to calculate amounts of matter dark, anti, or real. Your science fiction speculations are very interesting nonetheless. You must be a mainstream university professor of cosmology to have acquired such a daft

idea of the real nature of the material objects in space. Plasma rules and gravity does not exist as a discrete force at all.
 
Curious Cdn
#57
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver View Post

The universe is infinite therefore you have absolutely no way to calculate amounts of matter dark, anti, or real. Your science fiction speculations are very interesting nonetheless. You must be a mainstream university professor of cosmology to have acquired such a daft
idea of the real nature of the material objects in space. Plasma rules and gravity does not exist as a discrete force at all.

Well, the universe that we inhabit is finite, starting with a "big-bang" and ending with a big chill. If that is going on inside yet another universe and that within another, maybe it approaches the infinite but what we know about it now is that the Universe had a discrete beginning, is time limited and entropy will run it down to naught.

It is not apparently infinite.
 
socratus
#58
Cosmology: two ideas
The ''big bang'' idea explains how hot singularity
created billions hot stars when the rest of the universe
is extremely cold
Big bang says nothing about where did ordinary matter
come from (it says: chickens come from eggs and eggs
come from chickens: singularity <---------> big bang )
This idea contradict ''dark matter - antimatter'' idea
#
To save gravity as universal law for galaxies the dark matter
was invented
Dark matter is extremely cold stuff
Dark matter is passive / neutral stuff (doesn't have electric charge)
This cold stuff is much more in universe than normal matter
Dark matter is seed of normal matter and of formation of stars.
#
To create gravity (stars) needs not only matter but also energy.
Quantum antiparticles ( antimatter) are cold stuff that carry itself
enormous pure energy (according to Dirac: -E=Mc^2)
Each antiparticle 10^36 times stronger than dark matter particle
(graviton) and therefore each antiparticle can manipulate with
huge stuff of dark matter
Antiparticles (through so called ''quantum fluctuations'' ) involve
dark matter in process which was ended by creation of all visual
stars, galaxies . . . etc
/ my opinion /
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darkbeaver
#59
Quote: Originally Posted by socratus View Post

Cosmology: two ideas
The ''big bang'' idea explains how hot singularity
created billions hot stars when the rest of the universe
is extremely cold
Big bang says nothing about where did ordinary matter
come from (it says: chickens come from eggs and eggs
come from chickens: singularity <---------> big bang )
This idea contradict ''dark matter - antimatter'' idea
#
To save gravity as universal law for galaxies the dark matter
was invented
Dark matter is extremely cold stuff
Dark matter is passive / neutral stuff (doesn't have electric charge)
This cold stuff is much more in universe than normal matter
Dark matter is seed of normal matter and of formation of stars.
#
To create gravity (stars) needs not only matter but also energy.
Quantum antiparticles ( antimatter) are cold stuff that carry itself
enormous pure energy (according to Dirac: -E=Mc^2)
Each antiparticle 10^36 times stronger than dark matter particle
(graviton) and therefore each antiparticle can manipulate with
huge stuff of dark matter
Antiparticles (through so called ''quantum fluctuations'' ) involve
dark matter in process which was ended by creation of all visual
stars, galaxies . . . etc
/ my opinion /
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Quote:

The ''big bang'' idea explains how hot singularity
created billions hot stars when the rest of the universe
is extremely cold


The universe is a one off (UNI) and eternal and infinite.



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Tense81
#60
Quote: Originally Posted by socratus View Post

Please, look this picture.
The picture shows gravity-mass bend the universe.
This picture (as effect of gravity) is known in the world
from 1919 when Einstein was ''crown'' as
''the greatest scientist after Newton's time''.
#
But what is interesting in this picture?
Masses really can change the surface of cosmos, but . . .
but only in local region of the Universe where there is
gravity-masses (like Sun's) as you see in this picture.
(and the gravity-masses in the universe is only about 5%)
Not the whole Universe -net is bend as you see in the picture.
The whole Universe is a flat net - two dimensions continuum,
and the picture shows that gravity is only a local phenomena.
But . . .
But from 1919 people watches and cannot understand
this simple and clear fact of their observation.
How it is a pity . . .
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If gay.
 

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