you tube and your privacy


quandary121
#1
GOOGLE must divulge you tube log the viewing habits of EVERY USER who has ever watched any video on you tube US court has ruled today 4/7/2008
the ruling comes as apart of google's legal battle with VIACOM over allegations of copyright infringement ( is this the real reason i think not ) digital rights group the electronic frontier foundation (eff) called the ruling a set- back to PRIVACY RIGHTS (too ****ing right they are) get this the viewing log which will be handed to VIACOM contains
The viewing log which will be handed to Viacom CONTAINS
1 The log-in ID of users
2 The computer IP address (on line identifier)
3And all video clip details
 
quandary121
#2
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quandary121
#3
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7488009.stm


Google must divulge YouTube log


Google owns video site YouTube


Google must divulge the viewing habits of every user who has ever watched any video on YouTube, a US court has ruled.
The ruling comes as part of Google's legal battle with Viacom over allegations of copyright infringement.
Digital rights group the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) called the ruling a "set-back to privacy rights".
The viewing log, which will be handed to Viacom, contains the log-in ID of users, the computer IP address (online identifier) and video clip details.
While the legal battle between the two firms is being contested in the US, it is thought the ruling will apply to YouTube users and their viewing habits everywhere.
Viacom, which owns MTV and Paramount Pictures, has alleged that YouTube is guilty of massive copyright infringement.
The UK's Premier League association is also seeking class action status with Viacom on the issue, alleging YouTube, which was bought by Google in 2006, has been used to watch football highlights.
Legal action
When it initiated legal action in March 2007 Viacom said it had identified about 160,000 unauthorised clips of its programmes on the website, which had been viewed more than 1.5 billion times.
Following the launch of its billion-dollar lawsuit, YouTube introduced filtering tools in an effort to prevent copyright materials from appearing on the site.
We urge Viacom to back off this overbroad request


Electronic Frontier Foundation






The US court declined Viacom's request that Google be forced to hand over the source code of YouTube, saying it was a "trade secret" that should not be disclosed.
But it said privacy concerns expressed by Google about handing over the log were "speculative".
Google's senior litigation counsel Catherine Lacavera said in a statement: "We are disappointed the court granted Viacom's over-reaching demand for viewing history.
"We will ask Viacom to respect users' privacy and allow us to anonymise the logs before producing them under the court's order."
The ruling will see the viewing habits of millions of YouTube users given to Viacom, totalling more than 12 terabytes of data.
Viacom said it wanted the data to "compare the attractiveness of allegedly infringing video with that of non-infringing videos."
YouTube and Google had "compelled" it to go to court, Viacom said, "by continuing to defend their illegal and irresponsible conduct and profiting from copyright infringement, when they could be implementing the safe and legal user generated content experience they promise".
It said it would not be asking for any "personally identifiable information" of any user.
"Any information that we or our outside advisors obtain will be used exclusively for the purpose of proving our case against You Tube and Google (and) will be handled subject to a court protective order and in a highly confidential manner."
'Erroneous ruling'
Leading privacy expert Simon Davies told BBC News that the privacy of millions of YouTube users was threatened.
The chickens have come home to roost for Google


Simon Davies, privacy expert


He said: "The chickens have come home to roost for Google.
"Their arrogance and refusal to listen to friendly advice has resulted in the privacy of tens of millions being placed under threat."
Mr Davies said privacy campaigners had warned Google for years that IP addresses were personally identifiable information.
Google pledged last year to anonymise IP addresses for search information but it has said nothing about YouTube data.
Mr Davies said: "Governments and organisations are realising that companies like Google have a warehouse full of data. And while that data is stored it is under threat of being used and putting privacy in danger."
The EFF said: "The Court's erroneous ruling is a set-back to privacy rights, and will allow Viacom to see what you are watching on YouTube.
"We urge Viacom to back off this overbroad request and Google to take all steps necessary to challenge this order and protect the rights of its users." The body said the ruling was also potentially unlawful because the log data did contain personally identifiable data. The court also ruled that Google disclose to Viacom the details of all videos that have been removed from the site for any reason.
 
quandary121
#4
http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...ge_top+stories

Viacom vs. YouTube: Beyond Privacy

As Viacom is granted access to YouTube user records, a bigger threat to user-generated sites emerges: The law is increasingly siding with rights owners
 
quandary121
#5
Viacom sues You Tube for $1 Billion Dollars, due to copyright infingements from uploaded materials. http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/...
 
CDNBear
#6
Talk to yourself much...?
 
mabudon
#7
HAHAHA cdnbear, you get that sense too?? LMAO another thing where we're not locking horns, I like that

I just got a video pulled off youtube for "copyright infringement"- funny thing is it was just a video of a girl talking- MY WIFE, in our kitchen, talking about how she liked smoking LOL I don't know WHAT we did to infringe on any copyright but it's pretty ridiculous- we have 3 other vids similar that are totally still up for now...

Viacom should make a Viatube and offer what folks want- with the price of highspeed 'net they're burning the candle at several ends- pay for the transmission THEN pay for the content??

Stop the digital revolution, I wanna get off
 
quandary121
#8
Viacom sues YouTube for $1 billionThe lawsuit, the first big attack on the Google-owned video-sharing site, may just be a negotiating ploy. But it could be the first volley in a war between Google and its old-media rivals


http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com....aspx?GT1=9215

Please spread this article to EVERYONE you know!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FLBPjrhXQ6E
Last edited by quandary121; Jul 4th, 2008 at 07:30 PM..
 
quandary121
#9
A recent ruling in the Viacom vs YouTube/Google lawsuit threatens to invade the privacy of every YouTube viewer. That means even if you have broken no law you are considered guilty and subject to search. Probable cause is needed for a search. The judge must not have known that.

Viacom vs YouTube a Paramount actor's opinion
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0wJRr6ZITz4

Viacom vs YouTube/Google, Part 2, Tom Willett
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=btD2T4Qu8Uk
 
dj03
#10
Shaw won't share user IP addresses in these situations and the courts have already said they don't have to. So I am not concerned about this...I have never posted anything to Youtube anyways but I do watch stuff quite often.
 
quandary121
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by dj03 View Post

Shaw won't share user IP addresses in these situations and the courts have already said they don't have to. So I am not concerned about this...I have never posted anything to Youtube anyways but I do watch stuff quite often.

I'm not sure but i think it still applies, even if your not a member, don't quote me on it though.???
it might be that this only applies to EVERY USER who has ever watched any video on you tube
 
quandary121
#12
http://digg.com/world_news/VIACOM_VS_YOU
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Viacom vs you. Google must divulge the viewing habits of every user who has ever watched any video on YouTube, a US court has ruled.

The ruling comes as part of Google's legal battle with Viacom over allegations of copyright infringement.

Digital rights group the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) called the ruling a "set-back to privacy rights".

The viewing log, which will be handed to Viacom, contains the log-in ID of users, the computer IP address (online identifier) and video clip details.

While the legal battle between the two firms is being contested in the US, it is thought the ruling will apply to YouTube users and their viewing habits everywhere.

Viacom, which owns MTV and Paramount Pictures, has alleged that YouTube is guilty of massive copyright infringement.

The UK's Premier League association is also seeking class action status with Viacom on the issue, alleging YouTube, which was bought by Google in 2006, has been used to watch football highlights.

Legal action

When it initiated legal action in March 2007 Viacom said it had identified about 160,000 unauthorised clips of its programmes on the website, which had been viewed more than 1.5 billion times.

Following the launch of its billion-dollar lawsuit, YouTube introduced filtering tools in an effort to prevent copyright materials from appearing on the site.

The US court declined Viacom's request that Google be forced to hand over the source code of YouTube, saying it was a "trade secret" that should not be disclosed.

But it said privacy concerns expressed by Google about handing over the log were "speculative".

Google's senior litigation counsel Catherine Lacavera said in a statement: "We are disappointed the court granted Viacom's over-reaching demand for viewing history.

"We will ask Viacom to respect users' privacy and allow us to anonymise the logs before producing them under the court's order."

The ruling will see the viewing habits of millions of YouTube users given to Viacom, totalling more than 12 terabytes of data.

Viacom said it wanted the data to "compare the attractiveness of allegedly infringing video with that of non-infringing videos."

YouTube and Google had "compelled" it to go to court, Viacom said, "by continuing to defend their illegal and irresponsible conduct and profiting from copyright infringement, when they could be implementing the safe and legal user generated content experience they promise".

It said it would not be asking for any "personally identifiable information" of any user.

"Any information that we or our outside advisors obtain will be used exclusively for the purpose of proving our case against You Tube and Google (and) will be handled subject to a court protective order and in a highly confidential manner."

'Erroneous ruling'

Leading privacy expert Simon Davies told BBC News that the privacy of millions of YouTube users was threatened.

He said: "The chickens have come home to roost for Google.

"Their arrogance and refusal to listen to friendly advice has resulted in the privacy of tens of millions being placed under threat."

Mr Davies said privacy campaigners had warned Google for years that IP addresses were personally identifiable information.

Google pledged last year to anonymise IP addresses for search information but it has said nothing about YouTube data.

Mr Davies said: "Governments and organisations are realising that companies like Google have a warehouse full of data. And while that data is stored it is under threat of being used and putting privacy in danger."

The EFF said: "The Court's erroneous ruling is a set-back to privacy rights, and will allow Viacom to see what you are watching on YouTube.

"We urge Viacom to back off this overbroad request and Google to take all steps necessary to challenge this order and protect the rights of its users."

The body said the ruling was also potentially unlawful because the log data did contain personally identifiable data.

The court also ruled that Google disclose to Viacom the details of all videos that have been removed from the site for any reason.

VIACOM VS YOU = BOYCOTT
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GJbCWJNQUYI
 
Scott Free
#13
It doesn't matter. User generated content is going to destroy the movie and television industries just like it has destroyed the music industry. It is like when we were children and some kid took the ball and claimed it was his, all his and he wasn't going to share; he was right, it is his ball, so we all just did something else.

Same scenario. Time to do something else - fcuk 'em.

When people are tired enough of this crap they'll stop participating. We control them it's not the other way around.
 
quandary121
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by Scott Free View Post

It doesn't matter. User generated content is going to destroy the movie and television industries just like it has destroyed the music industry. It is like when we were children and some kid took the ball and claimed it was his, all his and he wasn't going to share; he was right, it is his ball, so we all just did something else.

Same scenario. Time to do something else - fcuk 'em.

When people are tired enough of this crap they'll stop participating. We control them it's not the other way around.

i agree with that, many users who are friends have said that they are in the process of make an alternative to you tube, Ive said to them i would sign up for it, and this was before Google took over you tube,google has introduced advertising into you tube, and a lot of people did not like that idea ,but the users were never consulted, and Google just wants to make money out of what we do regardless.so like you say time to do something different.!!!
 

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