Christianity and Religion

Motar
#1
The need of the hour is to distinguish and differentiate between "religion" and Christianity.

Christianity is NOT Religion

What is religion? Was Jesus Christ religious? Is Christianity a religion?
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by Motar View Post

The need of the hour is to distinguish and differentiate between "religion" and Christianity.

Christianity is NOT Religion

What is religion? Was Jesus Christ religious? Is Christianity a religion?

Jesus was ant-religion. He railed against the self righteous. Ironic that people turned it into a religion and get all self righteous about their religion being the only true religion.

A true Christian would emulate Jesus' life and teachings. Instead, today's Christianity is about the worship of a deified Jesus and nothing about his teachings.
 
petros
#3
Get yourself a red letter Bible and a copy of Strong's concordance.
 
Cliffy
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#4
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Get yourself a red letter Bible and a copy of Strong's concordance.

I read the red letter bible and that is why I believe Jesus was against religion. I also have it on good authority (doctorate of divinity and a master degree in theology) that, in the original texts, he never said he was the only "Son of God". He said "I am a son of god" and " we are all children of god".
 
damngrumpy
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#5
Jesus was about an inner personal revolution not about an organized church
with temples and churches. It was about a personal journey and it turned out
to be the very thing it was meant not to be. Christ was also somewhat political
and he was both left and right depending on the issue that is because he didn't
blindly follow either side on the issues of the day.
Most Christians today are taught to believe one thing. Jesus said otherwise.
He used his head and wanted people to think not just blindly follow. Yes faith
is part of it but actually thinking for yourself is required if you are to have faith in
anything.
 
Christianna
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#6
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

I read the red letter bible and that is why I believe Jesus was against religion. I also have it on good authority (doctorate of divinity and a master degree in theology) that, in the original texts, he never said he was the only "Son of God". He said "I am a son of god" and " we are all children of god".

He also said "I am the way, the truth, and the life ,no man cometh unto the father but through me"
 
damngrumpy
+1
#7
He did not say we all had to believe exactly the same thing either
If you explore the testaments there are dozens of them from the
followers written years later. Matthew Mark Luke and John don't
match up in the Bible cause the texts were a compromise of the
four fighting for the power of leadership. Several other texts give
a much greater view of the teaching that never made the front
page as it were. The Christian religion is incomplete as it does
not provide a real view of who JC was or the full context of his
teaching it was all overshadowed by politics.
 
Motar
#8
What is religion?

A selection of Biblical verses referencing religion:

"Instead, they had some points of dispute with him about their own religion and about a dead man named Jesus who Paul claimed was alive." (Acts 25:19 NIV)

"They have known me for a long time and can testify, if they are willing, that I conformed to the strictest sect of our religion, living as a Pharisee." (Acts 26:5 NIV)

"But if a widow has children or grandchildren, these should learn first of all to put their religion into practice by caring for their own family and so repaying their parents and grandparents, for this is pleasing to God." (1 Timothy 5:4 NIV)

"Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless. Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world." (James 1:26-27 NIV)

The apostles Luke and Paul both reference religion in their writings, regarding religion as practical or living faith. In this sense, Christianity is not a religion. Rather, religion is the practical aspect of Christianity.
 
DaSleeper
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Sal
+1
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by Motar View Post

The need of the hour is to distinguish and differentiate between "religion" and Christianity.

Christianity is NOT Religion

What is religion? Was Jesus Christ religious? Is Christianity a religion?

I am spiritual. I am neither a Christian nor am I religious.
 
Cannuck
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by Christianna View Post

He also said "I am the way, the truth, and the life ,no man cometh unto the father but through me"

That's one groups interpretation of what he said. I don't believe that interpretation is accurate
 
Christianna
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#12
I don't believe it at all, but that is what the bible said.
 
Cliffy
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#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Christianna View Post

I don't believe it at all, but that is what the bible said.

I think there are a lot of passages that were attributed to Jesus but were added later on to justify the religion of the day. The Gnostic Gospels tell a very different story, as do the Dead Sea Scrolls.
 
Christianna
#14
But don't Christians believe in the bible? At least the new testament?
 
Cliffy
+1
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by Christianna View Post

But don't Christians believe in the bible? At least the new testament?

What is needed is some perspective on what the bible is, how it came into being in its present form and who was responsible for all the additions and omissions over the centuries. It does not resemble the original texts written about Jesus back in the first three centuries after his death. What people believe is irrelevant to the truth. Most people have no idea about the wheres, why and whose of the bible. They just believe what someone else told them to believe and are terrified of critical thought.

A good example of Christian mentality can be seen about in my post #2 where 2 "Christians" redded me for saying what I believe. They obviously do not follow the teachings of Jesus.
Last edited by Cliffy; Jan 1st, 2014 at 11:43 AM..
 
taxslave
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by Motar View Post

The need of the hour is to distinguish and differentiate between "religion" and Christianity.

Christianity is NOT Religion

What is religion? Was Jesus Christ religious? Is Christianity a religion?

There are about 5000 religions in the world. Most of which claim to have the one true god. Which one(s) are lying?
 
Spade
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#17
A Jewish response to a Pastor - YouTube
 
Sal
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#18
Quote: Originally Posted by Spade View Post

A Jewish response to a Pastor - YouTube

Serve the King!

Excellent!

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

There are about 5000 religions in the world. Most of which claim to have the one true god. Which one(s) are lying?

none until they preach exclusivity
 
gerryh
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#19
Quote: Originally Posted by Christianna View Post

But don't Christians believe in the bible? At least the new testament?

I love it when a "non Christian" tells Christians what they should and shouldn't believe.

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

There are about 5000 religions in the world. Most of which claim to have the one true god. Which one(s) are lying?


How about none of them are lying?
 
Christianna
#20
But I wasn't always a non Christian, thankfully it was those super good Christians who convinced me that there is no god.
 
gerryh
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#21
Quote: Originally Posted by Christianna View Post

But I wasn't always a non Christian, thankfully it was those super good Christians who convinced me that there is no god.


But you are now, and obviously you really don't know what Christianity is or you would still be a "Christian". Instead, you believed what people told you instead of what Jesus Christ and God tells you. All the while you continue on in the same path as those that drove you away by trying to drive others away.
 
Christianna
#22
No I watched their behavior. I don't care what people believe if it makes them behave better. However that is not what I see in most religious people.
 
gerryh
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#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Christianna View Post

No I watched their behavior. I don't care what people believe if it makes them behave better. However that is not what I see in most religious people.

So, you decided that God and Jesus were bullshyte because of what people, who claimed to be believers, did and/or acted.
 
damngrumpy
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#24
I know many religious people who do live by their faith and I see others who profess
to be religious and a wolves in sheeps clothing. I don't like the church atmosphere
either and there are tennants of the faith that bother me to the point where I don't
subscribe to the visions or beliefs. Not all Christians are bad people and not all are
good. I think too many subscribe to parroting dogma instead of thinking though.
Was a program last night on PBS that shed some light on how the four books of the
New 'Testimant came about. Constanteen wehn he became Emperor really screwed
things up.
 
Christianna
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

So, you decided that God and Jesus were bullshyte because of what people, who claimed to be believers, did and/or acted.

Yep, mostly those wonderful born agains convinced me, and I thank them for freeing me from the fairy story.
 
gerryh
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#26
Quote: Originally Posted by Christianna View Post

Yep, mostly those wonderful born agains convinced me, and I thank them for freeing me from the fairy story.


So, again, you believed what you were told rather than finding out for yourself. No different than the "born agains". Personally, I'm glad I didn't listen to them.
 
Motar
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by Christianna View Post

But I wasn't always a non Christian, thankfully it was those super good Christians who convinced me that there is no god.

Christians will disappoint, Christi. Christ will not.
 
Cliffy
+1
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by Motar View Post

Christians will disappoint, Christi. Christ will not.

Christians have been waiting for 2000 years for his return and if they are around that long, they will be waiting for another 2000 years. He ain't coming. The second coming is a process not an event: humanity will some day reach Christ consciousness but we still have a long way to go. At that point we will finally understand what Jesus meant when he said that we would eventually be able to do far more than he was able to accomplish.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
+5
#29
Are the atheists so insecure in their lack of faith that they feel they must discredit those that believe. I'm not religious is any way, but some of the zealots who strike out at Christianity are more annoying than the guys who knock on your door after a Friday night drunk.
 
Cliffy
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier View Post

Are the atheists so insecure in their lack of faith that they feel they must discredit those that believe. I'm not religious is any way, but some of the zealots who strike out at Christianity are more annoying than the guys who knock on your door after a Friday night drunk.

Everybody annoys somebody. Even a wonderful, caring, well balanced person like me annoys some people on here!
 

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