Conservatives blame Media for Canada's failure to address Refugee Crisis


Walter
+1
#61
Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf View Post

It can be fixed just as easily as the tradition of being a peace-keeper

Canadians have a reputation as being tough fighters in war. Peace keeping is bullshjt.
 
mentalfloss
+1
#62
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Canadians have a reputation as being tough fighters in war. Peace keeping is bullshjt.

Yea, 100 years ago.

I'm sure you remember it quite vividly.
 
Walter
#63
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Yea, 100 years ago.

I'm sure you remember it quite vividly.

I forgot that WWII was 100 years ago.
 
Locutus
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#64
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Canada's refugee policy questioned after Syrian boy's drowning

Canada has taken in nearly 2,500 Syrian refugees, but critics say there's been no sense of urgency

The picture of Alan Kurdi, a Syrian boy whose body washed up on a Turkish beach, has heightened attention to Canada's own contribution to accepting refugees from that war-torn area and other troubled regions.

Critics say that Canada has historically been able to act rapidly to accept refugees on an urgent basis, but is failing to do so during the current crisis in the Mideast.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper, responding Thursday to the recent tragedy, repeated a familiar government talking point — Canada has the most generous immigration and refugee system in the world, it admits per capita more people than any other and that his government has welcomed in total 2.5 million new arrivals.

Harper is combining immigrants and refugees, however, two different classifications. Canada does accept a lot of economic immigrants, around 165,000 last year. But refugees make up less than 10 per cent of the people accepted into Canada. And the number of refugees granted status in Canada is down from over 35,000 in 2005 to roughly 23,000 in 2014.

As for the actual number of Syrian refugees who have been pledged and settled in Canada, different figures have been cited.

Back in 2013, then immigration minister Jason Kenney pledged that Canada would resettle 1,300 Syrian refugees by the end of 2014.

"The government of Canada is deeply concerned about the crisis in Syria and was ready to respond immediately to those identified by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees as being most in need of urgent protection," Kenney said at the time.

..more...

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/politics/sy...urdi-1.3214850

already been addressed slim.
 
Walter
#65
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Yea, 100 years ago.

I'm sure you remember it quite vividly.

I forgot that Afghanistan was 100 years ago.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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#66
Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus View Post

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Oh, and it turns out the family hadn't applied to come to Canada, after all.

Don PeatVerified account ‏@reporterdonpeat

Statement from the Department of Citizenship and Immigration Canada on the Kurdi family #cdnpoli


https://twitter.com/reporterdonpeat/...440513/photo/1

Stephen Taylor ‏@stephen_taylor

The tragic thing is that after the election, politicians and the media will stop caring about these refugees. Political impact fueling this.


Between 2003 and 2013, Canada ranked #2 in the world accepting refugees resettled by UNHCR.




> Why Does Canada Accept Refugees?

Please don't confuse the libtards with the facts.
 
Nuggler
+1
#67
Amid what has been called the worst refugee crisis since the Second World War, the immigration minister says Canada has been taken in by "approximately 2,500" Syrian refugees to date.

eh?
 
Walter
+1
#68
Quote: Originally Posted by Nuggler View Post

Amid what has been called the worst refugee crisis since the Second World War, the immigration minister says Canada has been taken in by "approximately 2,500" Syrian refugees to date.

eh?

How many do you have in your house?
 
mentalfloss
#69
Quote: Originally Posted by Nuggler View Post

Amid what has been called the worst refugee crisis since the Second World War, the immigration minister says Canada has been taken in by "approximately 2,500" Syrian refugees to date.

eh?

And we were advised by UN to take in 10,000 over a year ago.

We could have easily matched that.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
+5
#70
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

And we were advised by UN to take in 10,000 over a year ago.

We could have easily matched that.

So we have the social network and revenues to accept 10,000? Or if they did would libtards such as yourself complain about deficits etc.?

And let us not forget the particular family in question was not even coming here. They made no attempt. His sister had filed a claim for his brother which was returned "incomplete" (meaning she didn't fill the form correctly). There is no story here other than a made up one by libtards like yourself who would have us believe Harper personally went over there and capsized the boat and held the kids head under water.
 
mentalfloss
#71
Are you daft?

You just championed the fact that we took in 3x more Iraqi refugees lol
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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#72
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Are you daft?

You just championed the fact that we took in 3x more Iraqi refugees lol

You seem to be making several jumps which I am afraid I do not follow. Perhaps if you applied logic it would be easier? But anyways how did Iraq get into this?
 
MHz
#73
Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus View Post

The age of any cadaver is a non-issue here. I don't think most people enjoy seeing innocent humans die.

The lost point is the mental and social masturbation on the name, blame for death and such by spinners, politicos and other erstwhile douchebags.

Savy?

If this is the case then there are two missing points and that other one is the innocents care about their own lives a lot more than you do.

I seem to have ended up blaming the death of the 3 year old Syrian child onto the shoulder of the ones who are behind the scenes of creating a situation that makes escape by rickety raft as being the better odd than if he had stayed at the home that is probably now in ruins. You seem to have also missed the point that the instability is fired by the US, the UK, France, Germany and a few other bit players like Canada rather than the 5 Arab Empires that are given credit for the instability. 9when you look at their own track record they should have been overrun a long time ago.
להבין; להסיק (understand)

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Are you daft?

You just championed the fact that we took in 3x more Iraqi refugees lol

Most likely only the professionals and rich. Maybe a few rebels that were leaders and are getting shelter from prosecution at the ICC. Cream of the crop so to speak.

Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiing View Post

You seem to be making several jumps which I am afraid I do not follow. Perhaps if you applied logic it would be easier? But anyways how did Iraq get into this?

When you get 3M people (or so)as refugees why not include them? Add them up from all the 'West inspired' uprisings that create the refugees in the first place it is probably equal to a high percent of Canada's whole population.

Think of Canada getting an ice-storm that downs the power-lines and then 6 years later they still are down. Welkome toe Kandaharhar

Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Canadians have a reputation as being tough fighters in war. Peace keeping is bullshjt.

War is no longer fought by military vs military, both sides target civilians and the support system that keep them healthy like power and water facilities, things that create a lot of refugees then the food is targeted. Are those the tough fighters you are referencing? (the last Canadian soldier that I heard about was within 100 yards for a forward spotting location, spotting for smart bombs if that part is confusing you at all)

You probably start complaining if your street isn't plowed within a week of a heavy snowfall.
 
DaSleeper
+2
#74
Started early again huh?
 
mentalfloss
#75
Nova Scotia Willing To Accept More Refugees, No Reply From Ottawa: Deputy Premier
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
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#76
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Nenshi calls Ottawa's response to Syrian refugee crisis 'disgraceful'
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Mayor Naheed Nenshi blasted the federal Conservative government Thursday for its handling of the Syrian refugee crisis, which has been symbolized in the media around the world by the image of a drowned three-year-old boy.

“We’re a country of generosity and we’re a country of opportunity,” Nenshi said, according to CBC News. “The fact that we have not even taken the Syrian refugees that we have committed to take, let alone taking many more people who are fleeing the most desperate situation only looking for opportunity in the world, to me is a disgrace.”

Alan Kurdi, a Syrian toddler whose lifeless body was photographed on a Turkish beach, was with family in a small boat attempting to reach Greece when the vessel capsized, killing him, his brother and his mother, among other refugees.

The family was hoping to one day reunite with a loved one in British Columbia.

The image of Alan’s body has refocused international attention on the long-standing humanitarian crisis in Syria, where millions have been displaced from their homes by ongoing conflict.

Nenshi joined a growing chorus of critics who have accused the Conservative government of failing to adequately respond to this growing crisis.

The Conservatives declined to respond to the Calgary mayor’s barbs directly, suggesting Nenshi may have based his comments on “misinformation” circulating about the Tory record.

Instead, the party referred to comments by Conservative leader Stephen Harper, who called the plight of the Kurdi family “heartbreaking.” At an election campaign stop in Coquitlam, B.C., Harper said he has visited refugee camps in Jordan and Iraq, where he witnessed the fallout of a humanitarian crisis he said is only getting worse.

Harper said Ottawa under his watch has already accepted tens of thousands of refugees from the Middle East. The Tories have also promised to welcome another 10,000 refugees from Syria and Iraq over the next four years, though critics say the target falls far short of what is needed.

The Conservative leader said Canada has also donated humanitarian aid to the region and joined military operations to target ISIL militants in Iraq and Syria.

“Refugee policy alone is not remotely a solution to this problem,” Harper said.

The Liberals and New Democrats were also critical of the Conservatives’ response to the crisis, and vowed to welcome more refugees, much faster.

With files from the Ottawa Citizen

WE shouldn't be taking in any refugees from the muddle east. Send them to Egypt or Saudi Arabia or Dubi. WHere ever but not here. NOT our problem. Let them settle their own conflict.

Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus View Post

already been addressed slim.

But when it is not as much as the left wants it is a cut.
 
mentalfloss
#77
We should be taking in as much refugees as possible and giving them mandatory language training.

It's the biggest boon to the economy that we can ask for.


Reid: Chris Alexander just the latest example of how politics debases even the best of us | Ottawa Citizen
ottawacitizen.com

What ever happened to Chris Alexander?

The once promising boy-wonder of the Canadian foreign service has become a cautionary tale about what happens to those who fall in with the wrong crowd. It’s a remarkable story not only because of his obvious promise but because, in this instance, the wrong crowd happens to be the hard-cases who run our country’s governing party.

Blessed with Jimmy Stewart posture and an accompanying aw-shucks charm, the Oxford-educated Alexander won early attention as Canada’s first resident Ambassador to Afghanistan in 2003. He was only 34 years old. After an additional stint in the war-ravaged country as a UN Special Representative, earning him deserved plaudits at home and abroad, he returned to Canada to take up the higher calling of public office, winning his way into Parliament in the 2011 election. Two years later he was named Minister of Citizenship and Immigration.

It’s a story that provokes comparisons to the likes of Lester B. Pearson, almost smacking of an individual manifest destiny – the diplomatic prodigy who rises right to the top and one day leads our politics toward a more enlightened and understanding place. The inclination to like him, to believe in him, was strong. He stirred interest even among those who don’t usually vote Conservative – maybe for this guy someday they would. Maybe he was special.

Unfortunately, Alexander has often disappointed.

Instead of bringing diplomatic grace to the practice of politics, he has frequently proven himself a devoted student of the poison-tipped partisanship that so thoroughly defines the Harper Conservatives. During his time in Ottawa he has done what it takes to get noticed, win advancement and gain the favour of a prime minister who prefers spear-throwers to problem solvers. The former ambassador has conquered Ottawa by becoming a foot soldier, another suit of armour in Harper’s Talking Points army. It’s been a shame to see.

The most recent and strident example came this week with his early handling of the Syrian refugee crisis. The limp, lifeless image of a little boy whose family hoped to escape tyranny has seized the attention of people around the world — a haunting snapshot that shreds the gut of any parent. As the father of four boys, I admit to succumbing to emotion on the matter. It clouds my mind and makes me rage to do something to help. I’d like to see our government do more to help also.

Maybe it’s a bad idea to make policy by way of Instagram. Maybe it’s right to say that this crisis has been brewing for years and that thousands of other boys have been lying abandoned and dead on beaches. Maybe it’s kneejerk and unfair – improvised and impetuous. Maybe. Or maybe past indifference is no excuse for an inadequate ongoing effort. Maybe a single searing image is what’s sometimes required to jolt people out of their lethargy, galvanize public interest and brew popular demand for a fuller response.

Our government’s policy to date, championed by this minister, has not been sufficiently robust – taking in too few people in need, relying too much on private sector sponsors in the place of direct government action and permitting domestic politics to infect our humanitarian response. Of course we can’t save every life at risk. But we can do a lot more than we have been doing.

In fairness, it is complex and unforgiving territory. Immigration ministers have been striking the wrong balance, playing to the political bleachers and screwing up our refugee policy for decades, in governments of every stripe. On top of all that, let’s keep in mind that Alexander has a boss. He serves at the pleasure of the prime minister. So perhaps we’re expecting too much to expect much different.

Harder to excuse was the petty, nasty tone that accompanied Alexander’s initial defence of the government’s refugee policy. He scolded critics, deflected responsibility, questioned others’ commitment and, when backed into a corner of his own making, attacked the media as being to blame for it all. It came to a head on the Wednesday edition of CBC’s Power and Politics. Alexander grew hostile as he struggled to explain his position, eventually challenging the show’s host, Rosemary Barton. In full bluster, he tried bullying her, saying that the network had never discussed the issue before (not true) and had certainly never before interviewed him on the topic (only true because he had refused to participate in such broadcasts).

Barton would have none of it. On live television, she corrected Alexander’s mischaracterizations and then put the boots to him hard. At least the next night, after suspending his campaign to concentrate on the crisis (which critics were wrong to dismiss as an empty gesture, it was the right thing to do) he redeemed himself slightly with a more composed performance.

But it’s not the first time he’s played the part of the unthinking partisan. Watching Wednesday night’s spectacle, one had to wonder what’s gone wrong. Where did that original Chris Alexander go? Up there on the screen that might as well have been Paul Calandra or Pierre Poilievre, government spokespersons that we’ve come to associate with transparent posturing.

That’s the really troubling thing. Alexander, a knowledgeable, talented and presumably well-motivated person, someone whose history and abilities once inspired sincere hopes for great things has allowed himself to become just another one of “them.” A snapping, snarling partisan.

Not because he’s a bad person. Not because he’s taken this particular stand on this particular issue. But because that’s what politics – specifically politics as it’s currently practiced on Parliament Hill – does to people. It brings them low.

If the Conservatives lose this election, don’t underestimate how much this sort of thing contributes to their downfall. When even the likes of Chris Alexander can be so diminished people can see that something about our politics simply has to change.

Scott Reid is a principal at Feschuk.Reid and a CTV News political analyst. He was director of communications for former prime minister Paul Martin. Follow him on Twitter.com/_scottreid.

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/politi...the-best-of-us
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#78
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Canadians have a reputation as being tough fighters in war. Peace keeping is bullshjt.

Had to be tough. The equipment is usually old and worn out. Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out sounds a bit heartless - and just as traditional in some parts of the world
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
+3
#79
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

And we were advised by UN to take in 10,000 over a year ago.

We could have easily matched that.

Who's ' WE ' champ?

Besides, the UN is as useless as teats on a bull... Other than you, no one gives a crap about what they have to say
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
+2
#80
We should be taking in as much refugees as possible and giving them mandatory language training



WHO PAYS?
 
DaSleeper
+3
#81
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morgan View Post

Who's ' WE ' champ?

Besides, the UN is as useless as teats on a bull... Other than you, no one gives a crap about what they have to say

Agenda 21 should be required Reading for all U. N. fans.....

http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf
Last edited by DaSleeper; Sep 4th, 2015 at 12:17 PM..
 
Glacier
No Party Affiliation
#82
The Conservatives have been in office too long, and made too many mistakes to get the public's approval for another term. But enter the Syrian crisis. If the media and the left continue to screw this one up, they could very well end up handing the cons another victory. The latest poll shows that the majority of people want the government to do the same or less on bringing in refugees. I have many friends who are NDP supporters coming right out on Facebook and saying the government should do less. Meanwhile, the media is trying to shame the government into doing more as if only the lunatic fringe would not do more.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#83
I think if their affairs hadn't been meddled in, dependency created, then abandonment when they were no longer of any use to outside powers, religious crackpots, Al Quaida and ISIS would never have been seen as replacements. History repeats, and has been doing so for the entire history of the "Holy" lands
 
EagleSmack
+3
#84
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

We should be taking in as much refugees as possible and giving them mandatory language training.


Mandatory Language Training! LMAO!


Yeah that will work.


Flossy you're becoming Super Tard
 
mentalfloss
#85
Language classes funded by the Government of Canada
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
#86
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

Mandatory Language Training! LMAO!


Yeah that will work.


Flossy you're becoming Super Tard

'Becoming' is the wrong word to use in this case ES

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Language classes funded by the Government of Canada

Hilarious... What with this massive recession that you've been going on about, I'd wager that you're going to see funding cuts to a number of non-core programs.

Can you hazard a guess, a wild stab, at what will happen to the aforementioned language classes?
 
Mowich
Conservative
+1
#87
So Justin wants us to open our doors to 25,000 refugees IMMEDIATELY. Just where the heck are these folks going to go, huh? Camps? Shelters? Where? He says nothing about checks on these folks to find out if indeed they really are refugees and not some addle brained subversive coming here to create mayhem. Stuff you, Justin.
 
MHz
#88
Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich View Post

some addle brained subversive

The odds are we or our friends helped train them to be that way so why shouldn't we be the ones that get saddled with them?
 
Mowich
Conservative
#89
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

The odds are we or our friends helped train them to be that way so why shouldn't we be the ones that get saddled with them?

Link please. Would really like to know which branch of our government or our friend's government is tasked with the job of training foreign subversives.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#90
Quote: Originally Posted by Mowich View Post

So Justin wants us to open our doors to 25,000 refugees IMMEDIATELY. Just where the heck are these folks going to go, huh? Camps? Shelters? Where? He says nothing about checks on these folks to find out if indeed they really are refugees and not some addle brained subversive coming here to create mayhem. Stuff you, Justin.

Not to mention the care many of them are going to require for years to come. The man is an idiot. Harper has the right idea.............deal with the source!