Buffalo Declaration


Decapoda
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The Buffalo Declaration


The Problems

Alberta is not, and has never been, an equal participant in Confederation.

Alberta is a culturally distinct region, but this has not been recognized.

Alberta is physically and structurally isolated from economic and political power structures.

Eastern Canada functionally treats Alberta as a colony, rather than an equal partner.

The Path Forward

Confederation must rectify the critical injustices that prevent Alberta's equal participation in Canada. We have given serious thought to the structural reforms necessary.

Why We Are Speaking Out

Our goal is to present solutions to the issues angering Albertans, and in doing so, strengthen Canada.

We are elected by the people we represent to give voice to their concerns, and we are proud to do what is right by our people.
 
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Decapoda
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I believed the Teck Mine Development is dead on arrival.

After seeing the destructive and inane response by "protestors" over the comparatively minute Coastal Gaslink Pipeline over the last 2 weeks, and the abysmal and anemic handling of such insanity by our Government and the RCMP, it's clear that Trans Mountain will never be completed, nor will any other major resource development project under Canada's current leadership.

Trudeau declared last year that despite a failing western economy (largely of his own design and making), the Federal Equalization formula will not be reviewed or amended for another 5 years. He cemented this position by inserting it into an omnibus bill and passing it in 2019. Alberta is on the hook to continue contributing to Quebec's billion dollar plus surplus while helplessly watching it's own economy shrivel away.

Bill C69 and bill C48 have ensured through legislation that Alberta will not be permitted under this government to develop and move it's resources efficiently to foreign markets, while doing precisely nothing to restrict the movement of tankers, fossil fuels, and resources in the East.

Westerners have had enough. Trudeau doesn't dare announce Teck will not be approved because he knows it will spark a revolution in this country, and ignite a wave of Western separation and alienation the likes of which this country has never before seen. However he can't approve it because his base will abandon him, and resulting demonstrations and protest will make the last few weeks of blockading Canada's rail lines and destruction of its economy look trivial by comparison. He is caught in a trap of his own making. The Teck decision will be postponed as long as he can postpone it. But it won't solve the problem...it won't even delay the inevitable. Alberta is finished waiting.
Last edited by Decapoda; Feb 21st, 2020 at 12:52 PM..
 
Twin_Moose
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I agree by neutering the NEB, removing resource industry decisions from the Provincial jurisdiction, giving Green energy envro. nuts from Southern Ont. and Que. a voice in the decision, yes we are phucked out West.
 
Jinentonix
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I repeat, Team Tater Tot couldn't run an electric train set.
 
B00Mer
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Twin_Moose
Conservative
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I don't agree with Colby, but whatever it's his point of view

Colby Cosh: Beyond 'Alberta': the mental environment of that Buffalo manifesto

What is the Buffalo Declaration and why did they call it 'Buffalo'?

Quote:

The Buffalo Declaration, a manifesto written and signed by four Conservative members of Parliament from Alberta, declares a path forward for the province within the confederation of Canada and outlines ways to soothe Alberta’s alienation from the rest of the country.

But what is it? What does it do? And why the name “Buffalo?”
Let’s start with the name.
Back in the early 1900s, Sir Frederick Haultain, the first premier of the Northwest Territories, had an idea for a new Canadian province comprised of what would become Alberta and Saskatchewan.
Its name, he suggested, would be “Buffalo.” This was rejected by the Liberals under Wilfrid Laurier, who weren’t keen on the suggestion coming from someone identified with the Conservative party.
The symbol has lingered on as a mark of Ottawa not taking the west’s concerns seriously.
What is in the manifesto?
The 13-page, nearly 6,000 word document outlines the history of western alienation, what the authors identify as the root causes and issues with Confederation, and makes several recommendations on how to improve relations with the west.
Manifesto underscores the depth of frustration in Alberta, says Premier Jason Kenney
Don Braid: Some of the Buffalo Declaration may seem laughable but sense of betrayal behind it is profound
Alberta MPs issue 'Buffalo Declaration' demanding Ottawa recognize Alberta's worth
What are the main issues?
So there are four basic concerns: Alberta isn’t an equal partner in Confederation; Alberta isn’t recognized as culturally distinct; Alberta is isolated from power; and Alberta is treated as a colony.
And the solutions?
They range from the House of Commons publicly acknowledging the harms of Pierre Trudeau’s National Energy Program, to having more Alberta art and culture in Canada’s national museums, to amending provincial equalization formulas, protecting rail services and agricultural industries, and fairer political representation.
Who wrote it?
Four Tories: Michelle Rempel Garner, Arnold Viersen, Glen Motz and Blake Richards.
How’s the reception been?
While being mocked in some parts (social media) as the same old complaining from Alberta, Conservative leader Andrew Scheer said he believes there is legitimate angst in the West. So did Erin O’Toole, who’s running for the leadership.
Ken Boessenkool was one of the men involved in a similar project some 20 years ago. The so-called “firewall letter” of that time was published in the National Post and directed to then-premier Ralph Klein. It laid out ways Alberta could assert itself, such as having its own police force and pension plan.
In a Twitter thread Thursday, he said it was “appropriate” that these ideas come up during the current leadership race for the Conservative party. “I view them as part of an internal discussion within the Conservative Party about the relative strength and influence of the West in the Conservative coalition,” he wrote.
What now?
Anybody’s guess. The debate over Alberta alienation and the spectre of separatism have ebbed and flowed over the years. But it likely will be a factor in the Conservative leadership race. In Alberta and Saskatchewan, where all but one seat in Parliament belongs to the Conservatives, these feelings of alienation and the position of Alberta within Confederation are important issues for the party to work through.
Should I read it?
Sure — it’s the weekend. What better plans do you have?

Instead of trying to dismiss everything Alberta-Sask. maybe Central Canada should sit up and start listening
 
Tecumsehsbones
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How many buffalo have signed this declaration?
 
Girth
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

How many buffalo have signed this declaration?


More than you can imagine, you American fool.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

How many buffalo have signed this declaration?

Herd owners representing most of the Buffalo herd
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Maybe my Wyoming Plan would work for Alberta. Here's a brief outline of it.

1. All requirements of the Constitution and Federal laws do not apply to Wyoming.
2. Federal taxes on Wyoming citizens, residents, businesses, etc. shall be reduced to 15% of the taxes on other Americans, to account for the portion of the Federal budget that goes into defense.
3. The Federal government shall own two highways through Wyoming, one east-west, one north-south.The Federal government shall be solely responsible for the maintenance of these highways.
4. No person may be denied the right to leave Wyoming whenever that person chooses. If a person is accused of a crime, that person may elect to be tried in a Federal court outside Wyoming, under Federal law.
5. Any actions in Wyoming that cause harm outside Wyoming (pollution and suchlike) or any violation of provisions 2 through 4 will be addressed by the Federal government in whatever manner it sees fit, up to and including military action.
6. Subject to provisions 1 through 5, Wyoming may do as it sees fit without let or hindrance.
7. Aside from defense from foreign invasion, Wyoming, its citzens, its businesses, its institutions, and its government shall receive no funds, aid, or assistance of any kind from the Federal government.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

How many buffalo have signed this declaration?

It was a packed house at their last Buffalo Convention.

 
B00Mer
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Straight up nonsense and power grab by a few "new" politicians.

If Alberta wants to join the USA, fine, otherwise it stays in Canada.

They try to split into a sovereign nation, they won't have an oil industry or gas industry.

Remember Iraq.



It's been noted that if Alberta separates from Canada, gas wells, pipelines will be blown up. They will have a Civil War within the Province.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

It's been noted that if Alberta separates from Canada, gas wells, pipelines will be blown up. They will have a Civil War within the Province.

Overall, that would be a bad thing, but it would be funny as hell to see the loudmouth toy soldiers come up against a real army.
 
Girth
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Overall, that would be a bad thing, but it would be funny as hell to see the loudmouth toy soldiers come up against a real army.

What real army would that be? Since the United States would certainly intervene, if the rest of Canada tried anything to interfere with the sovereignty of Alberta.
 
Girth
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Straight up nonsense and power grab by a few "new" politicians.
If Alberta wants to join the USA, fine, otherwise it stays in Canada.
They try to split into a sovereign nation, they won't have an oil industry or gas industry.
Remember Iraq.

It's been noted that if Alberta separates from Canada, gas wells, pipelines will be blown up. They will have a Civil War within the Province.


That will never happen. America would certainly intervene.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Overall, that would be a bad thing, but it would be funny as hell to see the loudmouth toy soldiers come up against a real army.

The real army are the Natives. They won't let Alberta just split..



Do you remember the Oka Crisis.

I would have to say I would side with the Natives in this case.. 125%.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

That will never happen. America would certainly intervene.

In a domestic dispute. Why, what is their benefit. It's not like you want to join the USA right, you want to be seperate, with a puppet dictator named Jeff Rout.

Enjoy your freedom. Now fight for it.. Freedom isn't Free.
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B00Mer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXkaVvxY9EY
 
Girth
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

In a domestic dispute. Why, what is their benefit.

 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by Girth View Post

Guess you haven't heard the news, the US is energy independent..

Why do you think oil prices are so low, no demand.

1. They don't need our oil.

2. Canada used to be the USA's biggest trading partner, its now México.

Oh and did I mention, México has changed it's foreign energy policy, they are shipping 3 times more oil to the USA than Canada ever did, as well as China and Europe.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/15/surg...e-in-2020.html

https://www.oedigital.com/news/47571...w-oil-projects

https://www.rigzone.com/news/shell_l..._campaign=FANS
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harrylee
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

That threat was used by the Trump haters.......and they went nowhere....Much to the dismay of Trump supporters......lol
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

It was a packed house at their last Buffalo Convention.

 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by harrylee View Post

That threat was used by the Trump haters.......and they went nowhere....Much to the dismay of Trump supporters......lol

Thank God, all those crazy Liberals wanted to come to Canada
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Guess you haven't heard the news, the US is energy independent..
Why do you think oil prices are so low, no demand.
1. They don't need our oil.
2. Canada used to be the USA's biggest trading partner, its now México.
Oh and did I mention, México has changed it's foreign energy policy, they are shipping 3 times more oil to the USA than Canada ever did, as well as China and Europe.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/15/surg...e-in-2020.html
https://www.oedigital.com/news/47571...w-oil-projects
https://www.rigzone.com/news/shell_l..._campaign=FANS

If the U.S. is "energy independent," why is it getting oil from Mexico?

Are you lying deliberately, or just so stupid you don't even see that you just contradicted yourself?
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

If the U.S. is "energy independent," why is it getting oil from Mexico?
Are you lying deliberately, or just so stupid you don't even see that you just contradicted yourself?

Different grades, different products, different markets.

Need examples?
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Different grades, different products, different markets.
Need examples?

Not really. I have a general knowledge of the international oil industry, which Boomster clearly doesn't.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

If the U.S. is "energy independent," why is it getting oil from Mexico?
Are you lying deliberately, or just so stupid you don't even see that you just contradicted yourself?

You read the article the USA is energy independent..

Shell is a US company pulling resources out of México.

Note most of the US energy companies have pulled up stakes and left Alberta.. Can't get the resources out, to much political fallout

The commercial rental space in Calgary is a bust with management companies going bust.


https://calgaryherald.com/business/c...g-poor-economy
 
petros
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Shell is a Dutch company pulling resources out of Mexico and selling them in the US.

PE Ben is the Mexican giant.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00Mer View Post

Now there is another plus to separating. No more dippers.
 
Hoid
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Not a single elected separatist in Western Canada.

It would lend some credence to an otherwise spurious document if these people were to resign from their party and run in the next election as the separatists they suddenly want us to believe they are.

Talk is cheap.
 

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