Settlement for residential school survivors sought from federal government


personal touch
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

I pay my taxes. What about you?

the question is what or how much do you need to make you happy?this is the true question.
 
Angstrom
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Quote: Originally Posted by personal touch View Post

the question is what or how much do you need to make you happy?this is the true question.

Trying to pay out compensation for this is a logistic nightmare it's absolutely ridiculous. I do not believe it's a wise strategy.
 
personal touch
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#63
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

No, the idiot would be you. Especially when you can't even acknowledge your own ignorance.


The residential schools were set up by the government. They were overseen by the government. The Government tried to use them to "assimilate" First Nations to get rid of their "injun" problem. So, yes, the government is partly responsible for what happened in those schools. Therefore, we the people/taxpayers are also responsible for what happened in those schools.

It is common judicial practice to compensate a person, or people, monetarily for wrongs perpetrated on another's person. So, even though money may not right as wrong, or repair the damage, our society and courts have decided that bit is the closest thing we have to make that repair or right that wrong.

here's a link to get you started on your "education", that is if you are interested.

A history of residential schools in Canada - Canada - CBC News

Up to 6,000 children died at Canada’s residential schools, report finds | Globalnews.ca

and don't forget "administered process's"may it be going through the courts allow new avenues of recognition which otherwise may not be attainable through other means,it is not about winning or losing,sometimes and i stress sometimes it is about shaping Constitutional boundries,laws and foundations.other formal avenues were not successfull,willfull blindness can be rampant.
the monetary thing is secondary.
Recognition is a huge thing when going through a process which we as Canadians are witnessing with the TRC,we as Canadians would not recognize the injustices to the victims of residential schools for a very long time.Along with the victims,their communities,families and our communities we have all paid the price of willfull blindness.As Canadians we buried our heads for such a long time ago,now "recognition"is part of the administered process.
and really who cannot look at those numbers,being projected,and not feel some form of empathy.
i did some information auditing and laisons with the aboriginal communities of Alberta,my findings once again went back to recipical agreements,are you interested in hearing about this audiiting assessment summary?
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by personal touch View Post

,are you interested in hearing about this audiiting assessment summary?


from you? Not in my life time.
 
personal touch
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#65
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

what does it matter?

it really does not matter,nothing matters at Christmas,we are all happy and more happy during this joyous season.
once again Pedro was blowing his own horn,but the horn was sounding out of tune,i just wanted to point out this too him,
he sounded ridiculous.
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by personal touch View Post

it really does not matter,nothing matters at Christmas,we are all happy and more happy during this joyous season.
once again Pedro was blowing his own horn,but the horn was sounding out of tune,i just wanted to point out this too him,
he sounded ridiculous.


and so do you, but that doesn't stop you from posting either.
 
personal touch
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Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

But first I'd like you to give your car back to the natives you dirty theif. I can't believe you stole that from a poor native, you disgrace for a human. And give your house back too. If you feel so strongly about it why haven't you giving all that you possess back to the natives you bloody hypocrite ?

you talk like that again,i will report you to the moderator.
yes i know you are shaking in your boots.keep it on the low bro!

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

and so do you, but that doesn't stop you from posting either.

are you his brother?can't pedro flirt with me,what is your big status?

Quote: Originally Posted by Angstrom View Post

Trying to pay out compensation for this is a logistic nightmare it's absolutely ridiculous. I do not believe it's a wise strategy.

know what is a logistic nightmare,the money which was paid out to everyone but the victims,those lawyers,i bet they sucked it up.

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

from you? Not in my life time.

who do you want to hear it from?who would be your pick?I know,Senator Wallin?Am i correct.
 
Angstrom
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Quote: Originally Posted by personal touch View Post

you talk like that again,i will report you to the moderator.
yes i know you are shaking in your boots.keep it on the low bro!

pfft, that wasn't even that bad =)
I just wanted to stir a little emotional debate from grump.
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by personal touch View Post


who do you want to hear it from?who would be your pick?I know,Senator Wallin?Am i correct.


Wallin? Oh you are hilarious. If I wanted info from an idiot, I'd listen to you.
 
personal touch
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

Wallin? Oh you are hilarious. If I wanted info from an idiot, I'd listen to you.

that's o.k,i already knew and you did not hurt my feelings.
don't read any of my blogs.
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by personal touch View Post

that's o.k,i already knew and you did not hurt my feelings.
don't read any of my blogs.


I have no idea where to find your blogs. When I want a good laugh, I'll read your posts on here.
 
personal touch
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh View Post

I have no idea where to find your blogs. When I want a good laugh, I'll read your posts on here.

thanks pedro.
 
personal touch
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my apoligies that was petro
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by coldstream View Post

Most residents of Residential Schools were placed for two semesters, spring and fall, with a week home during and long breaks in between.

Probably amounted to 6 months or so of organized education, good diet, community.. and likely some evangelization as well. The rest of time they spent at home. Most teachers and administrators were dedicated, caring and competent at the tasks. The kids often found refuge from households where alcoholism and brutality predominated.. and their lives consisted of nomadic trapping and illiteracy and domestic violence.

It has now become the 'accepted truth' that these insitutions were filled with sexual predators, systemic abuse, cultural denigration... especially when it became obvious that some money could be got by validating this fable. The cardinal crime here, of course, was that of evangelization and conversion... as the concept of the 'noble savage' now holds primacy in our culture.. over degenerate white Christian civilization.. fostering 'white man's guilt'.

And no one accepts that guilt more personally than our incompetent little twit of a Prime Minister, Justin.

I'doubt read They Came for the Children, freely available online in PDF format and written by the TRC. It provides a wealth of factual information and while it acknowledges good teachers and students who did gave a good experience, they were in the minority. The schools were underfunded, children malnourished, children often cleaned and fixed the schools and grew their own food due to budget constraints. Teachers were rarely qualified. The Government was aware of the high death rates but saw it as a small price to pay for assimilation. Children were literally beaten for speaking their languages. In one anecdotal case in that book (and I'd read another in a separate book), an Inuit parent had complained in a letter written in Inuktitut to the school that she could not communicate with her daughter and that the school should teach her daughter Inuktitut. The school headmaster had responded in a letter translated into Inuktitut that the mother should learn English instead. And this was in the later stages after the 1960's when the Government had taken over the schools which was also during the 'better' period of the system. By then though some children enjoyed residential school as an escape from PTSD-ridden broken homes filled with alcoholism and abuse given the generations. At Keats the first victims in the 1800's were going back to healthy homes. By the later period, parents and great grandparents had suffered the system themselves, so no respite.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by personal touch View Post

thanks pedro.

De nada.

Quote: Originally Posted by personal touch View Post

my apoligies that was petro

De nada.
 
MHz
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Some of the Disappeared of Canada | Welcome to ITCCS.ORG and The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State

Sandy Mitchell, age 10, died after receiving experimental drugs from German speaking doctors at the Kuper Island catholic school, January 1939. Buried secretly in the Coqualeetza hospital graveyard, Sardis.

Fifteen Mohawk boys and girls shot to death by Canadian soldiers near the Anglican Indian school, Brantford, Ontario, summer of 1943. Buried in a mass grave at the nearby Glebe park.

Over 60,000 other children between the age of four and sixteen, cause of deaths unknown and unrecorded, who died in the Indian residential schools under the legal guardianship of the Catholic, Anglican and United Church between the years 1889 and 1996. Buried in at least 28 mass grave sites across Canada, or burned into ashes and scattered.

Johnny Bingo Dawson, age 53, residential school survivor and leader of Friends and Relatives of the Disappeared (FRD), died of a brutal beating by three Vancouver policemen, December 6, 2009. Cause of death falsified. Burial site unknown.

Ricky Lavallee, age 47, residential school survivor and leader of
the FRD, and an eyewitness to the beating death of Bingo Dawson, died of a blow to the chest by an unknown assailant, January 3, 2012.

William Arnold Combes, age 56, residential school survivor, FRD leader, and eyewitness to the abduction and disappearance of ten children by Queen Elizabeth in 1964, died after lethal injection and premature separation from his life support, St. Paul’s catholic hospital Vancouver on February 26, 2011. Burial site unknown.

Harry Wilson, age 53, residential school survivor and first eyewitness to finding a dead body at the Alberni school, died of the effects of blows to the head and chest, March 3, 2012, Vancouver. Burial site unknown.