The "Wall" Obsession


Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#1
Trump offers 3-year extension of protection for 'dreamers' in exchange for $5.7 billion for wall; Democrats call it a 'non-starter'

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...ational&wpmk=1

..Let's see what the Dems do in response to the Trump"solution"
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#2
and from another sorce"






BREAKING NEWS January 19, 2019


POLITICS January 19, 2019 11:19 am January 19, 2019 11:19 am


Trump proposes ‘Dreamer’ deal in exchange for border wall funding





https://globalnews.ca/news/4866822/t..._campaign=2019
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#3
Internet brutally mocks Trump after he claims the wall worked in San Antonio — which is nowhere near border

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/int..._notifications
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#4
On the lighter side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAJUZRZBdlM
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
+1
#5
Congress Finds Border Wall Solution For Trump – Leaves Democrats In Shambles



[Republican Congressman Mark Meadows] suggest to use 10 USC 274/284, which would allow the construction of fencing without congressional approval.

“Democrats have made it extremely clear this shutdown is all about opposing Trump for them. It’s time to pursue other options. 10 USC 274/284 would allow for fence construction without national emergency. Protect our communities, build the wall, and forget unreasonable Democrats.

According to this law, the Secretary of Defense can provide DOD personnel for the “maintenance of equipment for Federal, State, and local civilian law enforcement officials.”

Meaning the Army and other military servicemen can build the wall.
https://patriotjournal.org/congress-border-wall-trump/

 
Tecumsehsbones
+2 / -1
#6
Trump doesn't want a wall for border security. He wants a monument to Trump.
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
+2 / -1
#7
This is likely closer to the truth of it all.




Jim Wright

18 hrs ·


Ding ding ding!



Ding ding ding!
Ding ding ding!
And THERE it is.
There it is.
This is what it's all about. This, right here, is why Trump shut down the government. And this is why Mitch McConnell is helping him KEEP it shut down.
It's not about border security.
It's not about illegal immigration.
It's not about some wall.
No, it's about preventing the new House from getting to work.
That's exactly what this is about.
These sons of bitches are fascists. Totalitarians. They don't believe in democracy, they don't believe in the Republic, and they never have.




 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#8
‘It’s over for him’: Right-wingers furious as ‘biggest wimp’ Trump caves to Democrats on border wall

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/rig...s-border-wall/

How fickle.

T finally dos something resembling good sense............
 
Hoid
+2
#9
Well in response to your question the Dems simply stuck to their original position and waited until Trump folded like a cheap tent.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
+1
#10
Trump to NYT: Wall talks a 'waste of time'

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-ca...p+news+stories

Seems he would rather just dictate that the wall be done according to HIS specifications and have it happen. Then crown it with HIS NAME
 
Tecumsehsbones
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Trump to NYT: Wall talks a 'waste of time'
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-ca...p+news+stories
Seems he would rather just dictate that the wall be done according to HIS specifications and have it happen. Then crown it with HIS NAME

Which is hardly surprising, on his record.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#12
McConnell privately cautions Trump about emergency declaration on border wall

https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...ational&wpmk=1
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
+1
#13
Biggest Fentanyl Bust in History: Border Patrol Seizes Enough Drugs "To Kill 57 Million People"

Just days after we reported that the Massachusetts Attorney General is suing the makers of OxyContin, the deadly nature of America's opioid crisis has again reared its ugly head: US border patrol agents just made the largest Fentanyl bust in the country’s history, confirming that this nationwide epidemic is worse than ever.

On his show this week, Tucker Carlson reported: "Well, the U.S. border patrol has made the biggest fentanyl bust in history. An enormous amount, enough fentanyl to kill—they estimate—57 million people. That’s more than the combined population of the states of Illinois, New York and Pennsylvania. It’s a lot."

Reporter Hillary Vaughn on Fox News broke the story, stating: "We got our hands on an internal memo from U.S. Customs and Border Patrol that details this bust. The biggest fentanyl seizure in U.S. history. According to the memo, four days ago in Nogales, Arizona, at the port of entry, CBP officers stopped a tractor-trailer crossing the U.S.-Mexico border into the U.S. with enough fentanyl to kill 57 million people."
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...ill-57-million
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
+1
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

McConnell privately cautions Trump about emergency declaration on border wall
https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...ational&wpmk=1


You trumphaters are genocidal criminal INSANE nutbars. SERIOUSLY.

The biggest fentanyl seizure in U.S. history. According to the memo, four days ago in Nogales, Arizona, at the port of entry, CBP officers stopped a tractor-trailer crossing the U.S.-Mexico border into the U.S. with enough fentanyl to kill 57 million people."
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

Which is hardly surprising, on his record.

Especially YOU. (see above)

Your needle appears to be skipping. Maybe it's got too much dope on it.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
-1
#16
Trump intends to sign border deal to avoid another shutdown

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/13/polit...A%25M%22%20%7D


we will see....... as there are no guarantees with this mercurial POTUS.
 
EagleSmack
#17
And he's getting the wall. So much for that non-starter.


Dems Caved
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmack View Post

And he's getting the wall. So much for that non-starter.


Dems Caved

Not one dollar Nancy . Say it isn’t true .
 
EagleSmack
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Not one dollar Nancy . Say it isn’t true .


She and the Dems caved. After the disastrous roll out of the GND the Democrats can't afford anymore heat.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
+1
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

Not one dollar Nancy . Say it isn’t true .

Trump is spinning it like t he wall is being built........ but fact checks indicate he is lying. Heck....even fox news is appalled at the degree of lying coming from him.

He has NO cred at all ..whatever he says ........ either consider the opposit or take it with a serious grain of salt.

Only his die hard supports actually take what he says at face value. But that speaks to their "moral" and "ethical" compass. While critical thinking is an unknown entity.
 
EagleSmack
#21
I see the Liberals are already in a rage over the wall being built.


It is all there in the Bill!



*snicker*
 
pgs
Free Thinker
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Trump is spinning it like t he wall is being built........ but fact checks indicate he is lying. Heck....even fox news is appalled at the degree of lying coming from him.

He has NO cred at all ..whatever he says ........ either consider the opposit or take it with a serious grain of salt.

Only his die hard supports actually take what he says at face value. But that speaks to their "moral" and "ethical" compass. While critical thinking is an unknown entity.

So there is no funding ? Confusing .
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
+2
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

So there is no funding ? Confusing .

You are right. Consing?? yes. Mixed messages coming from various "officials"...... yes.

One big issue........ Trump does not want bipartisan ship....... He wants HIS way......He is very immature that way. His way or nothing....... Mind you .....he has been a spoilt child all his life........ so we should not be surprised by his immature temperament.

(an aside: but Bush Jr.... said "This would be a lot easier if this were a dictatorship" Trump behaves like he is operating a dictatorship......... and when things don't go HIS way he rants like a lunatic on Twitter or at his rallies. His oh so obvious bias in favor of Putin and NK...........while offending allies........ speaks volumes.......re: his mindset.
Last edited by Ocean Breeze; 3 days ago at 04:48 PM..
 
Hoid
#24
U.S. Congress advances border security bill without Trump border wall

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1Q30KU

Trump has no choice but to go along
 
EagleSmack
+1
#25
No wall... just physical barriers.


If it helps you sleep at night.



*snicker*
Last edited by EagleSmack; 3 days ago at 12:24 PM..
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#26
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

So there is no funding ? Confusing .

The package passed contains money for border security measures, not for a wall.

Yes, I've heard the bafflegab as the Trump administration tries to claim that maintaining and upgrading the 700 miles (1100km) of current barriers constitutes fulfilling his promise.

Still waiting for the whopper he'll tell on how Mexico is actually paying for it.

Still, Trump got some of his money. I expect he'll start building his "big, beautiful wall" with the 1100-1200km of the border that's a trackless, uninhabited, uninhabitable, impassable, hardpan desert nobody uses to cross anyhow.

Here's a couple of facts for your conversation. The majority of illegal aliens in the U.S. are visa overstays, not border crossers. And according to the DEA, the "vast majority" of illegal drugs in the country are smuggled through legal entry ports, not snuck across the border.

But I'm sure Trump's wall will stop that.
 
Hoid
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

So there is no funding ? Confusing .

To you, of course.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#29
Trump ripped for plan to steal military funds for his wall by GOP Armed Forces Committee members

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/gop..._notifications

would hope so.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#30
FactChecking Trump’s National Emergency Remarks

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/02/fa...gency-remarks/