Ukraine Flight 752 "Crash" killing 176 innocent people


View Poll Results: Why did flight 752 crash?
Tragic accident 2 13.33%
Shot down by Iranian missles 12 80.00%
Unsure 1 6.67%
Voters: 15. You may not vote on this poll

Remington1
+6
#241
Lot's of interesting views on here regarding another of Iran's **** up. The Iranian army is either a complete incompetent joke or they were targeting someone, and in my opinion, Soleimani was not the reason for this massive murder. The USA, yet again, has stepped up and taken out a POS responsible for the murder of countless innocent people, and the impending of more, so good riddance, another parasite gone. This was not an assassination, it was a necessary elimination. For myself, I see the USA as providing us with security and protection. We have a total weakling idiot for a PM, he's an embarrassment to the CDN military. Whatever decision he takes in regards to this latest Iran blunder, it will be one dictated to him by people around him.
 
Hoid
#242
all it cost was 176 civilians
 
spilledthebeer
#243
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

No, I'm a Shawnee, military veteran (technically decorated, but don't make too much of it. You literally can't be in the U.S. Forces and not be decorated), and lawyer from Oklahoma, currently residing in the Maryland suburbs of Washington. I just say "Washington" because folk hereabouts tend to think of the Maryland and Northern Virginia suburbs as "Washington," despite the fact that they are geographically not in the District of Columbia. Same way some folk might say "I'm in New York," when they actually mean the New Jersey or Connecticut suburbs of New York City.

The only "Garda" I know of is the Garda Siochana, the national police force of the Republic of Ireland.

This discussion is fairly pointless. I either am who I say I am, or I'm not. You really have no way of proving it either way, and I don't intend to provide ID. Way I see it, you can claim to be a one-legged lesbian Lithuanian pipefitter from Cameltoe, Manitoba, and I'll believe you.

Either the law I quote and cite is correct, or it ain't. Either the military information I provide is correct, or it ain't. It's up to you to decide, and research to check up on. I generally provide links.

So, up to you. Don't really make much difference to me either way.




OH DEAR ME..................THE USUAL SLIPPERY LAWYER TALK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


GIRTH ASKED ONE VERY VALID QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


"What is a self professed Yankee LAWYER doing arguing with people on a web site set up in a FOREIGN COUNTRY"??????????


Should we assume you have been so relentlessly mocked that you no longer post comments on Yankee web sites???????????????


Or that you are getting paid to stir up trouble???????????????????????
 
Tecumsehsbones
#244
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

"What is a self professed Yankee LAWYER doing arguing with people on a web site set up in a FOREIGN COUNTRY"??????????

As you so amply demonstrate, since they raised ticket prices down to the zoo, this is the best entertainment around.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
#245
Quote: Originally Posted by mrhill View Post

He said he'd rather be neutral like Switzerland but of course, you don't like that. Any who do not side with you, are your enemies and will be treated as terrorists and will be destroyed, is that right?

spot on......it is that "with us or against us" crap that came out of the US......as if there are only those options. Very narrow & limited minded

what they fail to realize that staying as neutral as possible means clearer objectivity......of a situation.
 
Remington1
+3
#246
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

all it cost was 176 civilians

Civilians in the Middle East are used to living under the shadow of repression and precaution. Iranians (Canada or whatever country they were currently living in) on that plane had left Iran, many for reason of security and peace. I listened to a few of Trudeau's bleeding heart peoplekind idiots claiming that Canada’s decision to cut diplomatic ties with Iran played a role in this tragic loss of citizens! Only the Iranian government is to blame for this mass murder.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
-1
#247
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Esper Says He Didn’t See Specific Evidence Iran Planned to Attack 4 Embassies


President Trump had claimed that a planned attack on four American embassies was a justification for the strike on an Iranian general.


WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said on Sunday that he never saw any specific piece of evidence that Iran was planning an attack on four American embassies, as President Trump had claimed last week as a justification for the strike on an Iranian general that sent the United States and Iran to the brink of war.
“I didn’t see one with regard to four embassies,” Mr. Esper said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.” But he added: “I share the president’s view that probably — my expectation was they were going to go after our embassies. The embassies are the most prominent display of American presence in a country.”
The muddled message on Sunday by Mr. Esper and other administration officials only added to the public debate over the Jan. 3 strike that killed Iran’s most important general, Qassim Suleimani, and whether there was appropriate justification for the killing. The administration has offered shifting rationales for the strike, first indicating that it was a response to an “imminent” threat and then backing away from that idea, before sporadically reclaiming it.
As critics, including some Republicans, in Congress expressed dismay, administration officials have in recent days often avoided offering specifics about what prompted the airstrike. But Mr. Trump said on Friday that part of the reason was that Iran was planning attacks on four American embassies.


More: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/12/u...embassies.html

So, no real justification for the assassination. It was a distraction from impeachment, no matter what the Trumpkins say.

He has given several "explanations"..........and"justifications"......b ut given the fact he has a Major credibility problem........who can believe him?? And why not reveal the supporting intelligence that might .......or not.......verify his statements. How can anyone trust a pathological liar??
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
+1
#248
Leaders in Tehran face new challenges after Iran admits to downing plane

Iran��s statement Saturday that ��human error�� brought down the Ukrainian flight was a stunning about-face that led to demands to allow a full and open investigation. Protests flared in Tehran, where apparent student-led rallies decried the missile mistake and called for military chiefs to resign.



source: WAPO
 
Serryah
Free Thinker
+1
#249
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Leaders in Tehran face new challenges after Iran admits to downing plane

Iran��s statement Saturday that ��human error�� brought down the Ukrainian flight was a stunning about-face that led to demands to allow a full and open investigation. Protests flared in Tehran, where apparent student-led rallies decried the missile mistake and called for military chiefs to resign.



source: WAPO


The best thing for anyone in the West to do about this, aside from keeping up requests for data about the crash, is to do or say nothing about what the population/civilians of Iran are doing.


Siding with them will only push the hardliner terrorist types to say it's all a Western Plot (if they're not already). Until the build up to push for change gets bigger, best to STFU, IMO.
 
Ocean Breeze
Free Thinker
-1
#250
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

The best thing for anyone in the West to do about this, aside from keeping up requests for data about the crash, is to do or say nothing about what the population/civilians of Iran are doing.


Siding with them will only push the hardliner terrorist types to say it's all a Western Plot (if they're not already). Until the build up to push for change gets bigger, best to STFU, IMO.

Good point. Yes..... that is what wisdom would dictate.......thus staying neutral. Taking sides is foolish in this case......as one cannot support the US action;s.........anymore than one cansupport Iran's actions.
 
Walter
+2
#251
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Good point. Yes..... that is what wisdom would dictate.......thus staying neutral. Taking sides is foolish in this case......as one cannot support the US action;s.........anymore than one cansupport Iran's actions.

I along with POTUS and millions around the world support the Iranians who are protesting against their corrupt gubmint.
 
B00Mer
No Party Affiliation
+3
#252

paste image to web


 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#253
Quote: Originally Posted by NZDoug View Post

He was murdered.

Well he is sure dead as a result . And that is a good thing .
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+3
#254
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

spot on......it is that "with us or against us" crap that came out of the US......as if there are only those options. Very narrow & limited minded

what they fail to realize that staying as neutral as possible means clearer objectivity......of a situation.

Where is your clear objectivity ?
 
pgs
Free Thinker
+1
#255
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

The best thing for anyone in the West to do about this, aside from keeping up requests for data about the crash, is to do or say nothing about what the population/civilians of Iran are doing.


Siding with them will only push the hardliner terrorist types to say it's all a Western Plot (if they're not already). Until the build up to push for change gets bigger, best to STFU, IMO.

Iím alright Jack . Who cares about those Iranians that are living under a theocratic dictatorship ?
 
petros
+2
#256
Iranian anti-regime protestors are being shot again.
 
Decapoda
+3
#257
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Good point. Yes..... that is what wisdom would dictate.......thus staying neutral. Taking sides is foolish in this case......as one cannot support the US action;s.........anymore than one cansupport Iran's actions.


And yet you continuously insist that Trump is to blame. Neutrality would include not only abstaining from taking sides, but also from subjectively pointing the finger of responsibility based on your limited knowledge of facts. I agree taking sides is foolish, and you have demonstrated your foolishness in spades on this issue.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+2
#258
Iran Cracks Down as Protests Over Downing of Airliner Grow

Quote:

A top Iranian military commander made a rare public appeal for forgiveness on Sunday as security forces fired on protesters and outrage over the mistaken downing of a jetliner reignited opposition on the streets and stirred dissent within the government’s conservative base.
It was the second day of protests after the military acknowledged early Saturday that it had launched the missiles that brought down a Ukraine International Airlines jet near the Iranian capital on Wednesday, killing all 176 people on board. The disaster unfolded amid escalating tensions with the United States over the killing of a revered Iranian commander, Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani.
For the first three days after the crash, Iran denied growing international accusations that it had shot the plane down, and looked as if it was engaged in a cover-up. The Iranian authorities insisted that the jetliner had gone down for mechanical reasons, and refused to cooperate with investigators. They also began to remove some evidence from the scene.
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But then, as the uproar mounted, Iranian leaders admitted that they had shot the aircraft down, citing human error.
That admission limited the blowback from abroad — but threw a match on the volatile situation at home. Anti-government protests that had quieted when General Suleimani was killed in a drone strike in Iraq rekindled across the country.
Still, analysts argued that this latest wave of internal unrest could ultimately strengthen those in Iran who are pressing to confront the United States. Already, they were seeking to blame Washington for the protests.
On Sunday, the unrest spread outside Tehran, the capital, to at least a dozen cities. Security forces fired tear gas, rubber bullets and eventually live ammunition to disperse demonstrators in Tehran. By late Sunday night, several people had been wounded, witnesses said.
Unlike previous waves of opposition, some of the outrage this time has come from conservatives who ordinarily support the government, as well as from the usual critics.
Headlines in hard-line newspaper demanded resignations, and the commander-in-chief of the Revolutionary Guards, Gen. Hossein Salami, issued a very rare public apology. In a televised address, he all but begged Iranians to return to the nationalist zeal that only days earlier had seemed to fill the country, after General Suleimani’s killing.
Iran responded to his death by firing missiles at bases in Iraq where American forces were stationed. “We achieved a great victory,” General Salami said, though the missile barrage injured no one and did little serious damage. “But the crash of the airplane has tarnished it.”
He said he wished he, too, had “crashed and burned” on the jet.
The editor in chief of the Revolutionary Guard’s Tasnim news agency, Kian Abdollahi, said that attempts by government officials to lie about what had happened were as great a “catastrophe” as the crash itself.
“Officials who misled the media are guilty too,” he said on Twitter. “We are all ashamed before the people.”
Analysts say the uproar, however, is unlikely to dampen the Iranian appetite for confrontation with the West.
Iranian hard-liners habitually suspect that American covert operations are behind domestic protests, and the unvarnished pleasure the White House seemed to take in the events unfolding in Iran over the weekend may only harden that view, analysts said.
“We are following your protests closely and are inspired by your courage,” President Trump tweeted on Sunday.
Ali Vaez, Iran project director at the International Crisis Group, said that even as they took tough measures to suppress protests at home, Iranian leaders might lash out against Washington, covertly or otherwise.
“They believe that the U.S. and its allies in the region are fueling and exploiting internal discontent in Iran,” he said. “The game will return to Iran’s comfort zone: indirect attacks against the United States and its allies in ways that would allow plausible deniability and minimal risks of reprisal.”
Over the last year, the Trump administration has hit Iran with a so-called “maximum pressure campaign” of painful economic sanctions aimed at pressuring Tehran to submit to new restrictions on its military activities and nuclear program. Iranian officials describe it as economic warfare.
If hawks in Washington view the protests as evidence of success, that could work against Iranians who favor compromise with the United States — and strengthen hard-liners who favor confrontation, said Sanam Vakil, a scholar at Chatham House.
“Security-focused conservatives are thinking they can’t come to the table now because it would be weak,” she said.
General Salami of the Revolutionary Guards, in his apology and plea for unity on Sunday, appeared eager to rally Iranians once again against their perennial rival since the 1979 Islamic Revolution.
“We are at war with the United States,” he said. “We do not consider the conflict with the United States over. We are the soldiers of the people, and we will sacrifice ourselves for you.”
“Iran has risen,” he said, noting that its military had dared fire missiles toward American forces on bases in Iraq — even if it did so without much chance of damage or casualties. “Iran is proud and the whole world has seen our power.”
By acknowledging belatedly that Iran’s own military had brought down the jet, Iranian leaders avoided the prospect of greater international isolation. European and other governments that had sought to trade with Iran or mediate its dispute with Washington had all begun to cite evidence that Iranian forces shot down the plane.
Canada, the final destination of most passengers on the downed jet, lost 57 citizens. At a memorial event on Sunday at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called the crash “truly a Canadian tragedy.”
“I want to assure all families and all Canadians: We will not rest until there are answers,” he said. “We will not rest until there is justice and accountability.”
The Transportation Safety Board of Canada said Sunday that two of its air accident investigators had obtained visas from Iran and would arrive in Tehran on Monday. It said two experts in downloading and analyzing flight data and voice recorder information would follow.
In Tehran, the scale of the domestic backlash may have caught the government by surprise.
Uniformed members of the security forces and pro-government militia men were deployed in large numbers in cities around the country, apparently in an unsuccessful effort to discourage a second day of protests.
By the end of the night, at least several people had been shot in the back by security forces, according to witnesses and videos. Several protesters in Tehran said in interviews that a circle of militiamen had closed in and beaten them.
“The city is a security zone and special forces units are at every square,” Siamak Ghasemi, an economist living in Tehran, wrote on his Instagram page. The wrong group, he said, was being punished: “It’s as if civilians had brought down a military plane.”
Despite the heavy security presence, large crowds turned out. In many places, they chanted caustic slogans. Some denounced the country’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, which is a capital offense in Iran.
“The supreme leader is a murderer; his regime is obsolete,” demonstrators chanted in Azadi Square in Tehran.
“Our enemy is right here,” others chanted in a video circulating on social media. “They lie to us that it’s America.”
The protests in several cities were centered at universities and dominated by students, perhaps because many of those killed in the plane crash were recent graduates heading for further study in Canada.
“They killed our geniuses and replaced them with clerics,” young men and women chanted in the city of Shiraz.
Dozens of prominent film directors, artists and performers issued statements condemning the government’s handling of the crash and pulling their work from a prestigious competition.
“We are not citizens,” Iran’s best-known actress, Taraneh Alidoosti, wrote on her Instagram page; she has six million followers. “We are hostages, millions of hostages.”
A member of the Tehran city council issued a stinging statement of resignation: “Today we are faced with systematic lies, cover-ups and lack of accountability. In the current environment I have no hope for reform.”
And the only female Iranian athlete to win an Olympic medal also chose Sunday to announce that she had defected. “I am one of the millions of oppressed women in Iran who they have been playing with for years,” the athlete, Kimia Alizadeh, wrote on Instagram. She won a bronze medal in taekwondo in 2016.
Officials appeared to be scrambling to get behind the outpouring of public grief for those killed on the plane.
A billboard in downtown Tehran that had displayed a photo of General Suleimani was taken down. In its place was a black banner with the names of the victims and a verse about grief. In Tabriz and Tehran, some protesters could be seen tearing up photos of General Suleimani that had been hanging from poles.
Iranian media reported that local officials, prayer leaders and Revolutionary Guard commanders were visiting the families of victims to offer apologies and condolences.
Like the commander-in-chief of the Revolutionary Guards, though, Ayatollah Khamenei did his best to shift public attention back to the conflict with the Washington.
In a meeting with the visiting emir of Qatar, according to his website, he argued that the problems of the region were created by “the United States and its friends.”

 
Decapoda
+3 / -1
#259
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

Trump caused the chain of events that took place. with the assassination..... so he carries some responsibility for those tragic deaths.


I guess it's kind of similar to how Steve Jobs and/or Bill Gates carry some responsibility for the subjective and opinionated garbage you insist on banging out on your computer keyboard.

But then I guess we have to ask...how far do we go back when assigning responsibility for your keyboard fanaticism? Do we also include Thomas Edison for commercializing electricity?
 
Hoid
+1
#260
Trumps actions were the first in the series of events that ended up killing 176 civilians
 
Hoid
#261
Micheal McCain the CEO of Maple Leaf Foods is saying what our political leaders cannot say, but what most canadians agree with:



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…U.S. government leaders unconstrained by checks/balances, concocted an ill-conceived plan to divert focus from political woes. The world knows Iran is a dangerous state, but the world found a path to contain it; not perfect but by most accounts it was the right direction…


Maple Leaf Foods

@MapleLeafFoods
..A narcissist in Washington tears world accomplishments apart; destabilizes region. US now unwelcomed everywhere in the area including Iraq; tensions escalated to feverish pitch. Taking out despicable military leader terrorist? There are a hundred like him, standing next in line

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EagleSmack
+2
#262
Quote: Originally Posted by Serryah View Post

Unlike your head in the smallest sphincter you can find so you can never remove it.


You couldn't have thought of anything else to say?


Seriously... that is what you came up with?
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+3
#263
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze View Post

spot on......it is that "with us or against us" crap that came out of the US......as if there are only those options. Very narrow & limited minded

what they fail to realize that staying as neutral as possible means clearer objectivity......of a situation.

You? Whining about a lack of objectivity? Now THAT is some funny shit.



Let's take a look at your "objectivity". Some Iranian jack-holes shoot down an airliner shortly after take-off. This means that the plane was definitely low enough that even the ol' Mark I eyeball would have been able to tell it wasn't a military aircraft. And yet somehow you hold Trump responsible for missile-happy idiots in Iran shooting down an airliner that had just taken off from the airport in Tehran, just like your extremist buddies . 5 other commercial flights has taken off in the hour before Flight 752 and used the exact same flight path that 752 was shot down using. So who or what was on that plane?
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+5
#264
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

Trumps actions were the first in the series of events that ended up killing 176 civilians

You're an idiot. Iran's actions over the last year were the series of events leading up to Iranian extremists shooting down a civilian airliner. I guess I need to post this AGAIN, for the hopeless TDS crowd.


May 2019- Iran attacks oil tankers in the Gulf.


June 2019- Iran shoots down US drone.


July 2019 - Iran seizes British oil tanker.


Sept. 2019 - Iran attacks Saudi state run oil company.


Dec. 2019 - Iran attacks US bases in Iraq.


Jan. 2020 -US airstrike kills Iranian general/well known terrorist while in Baghdad. (Just to clarify for you, Baghdad in NOT in Iran).


Jan. 2020 - Half-wit leftists blame Trump for trying to start a war and for missile happy twats in Iran shooting down a civilian airliner, IN IRAN!!
 
mrhill
+1 / -1
#265
"…U.S. government leaders unconstrained by checks/balances, concocted an ill-conceived plan to divert focus from political woes. The world knows Iran is a dangerous state, but the world found a path to contain it; not perfect but by most accounts it was the right direction…"

- Michael McCain, the CEO of Maple Leaf Foods

See people, how many wives, husbands, fathers, mothers, sons, and daughters will the world need to lose before you act?
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
+3
#266
Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Canadian Utility Grade Minister Justin Trudeau has implemented serious sanctions on the Iranian Government.

The sanctions will remain in place until the plastic black water box thingys from the Ukrainian Airlines have been returned for a refund!

Ah, that's freak'n awesome....
Quote: Originally Posted by pgs View Post

A bomb just happened to fall on his head , some people have all the luck .

And he wasn't even at a wedding. The US is slipping. I thought the weddings spontaneously broke out under bombs whenever a whistle was heard above the ground in Moslem nations. Must'a been a stealthy non-whistling bomb.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#267
Quote: Originally Posted by Jinentonix View Post

You're an idiot. Iran's actions over the last year were the series of events leading up to Iranian extremists shooting down a civilian airliner. I guess I need to post this AGAIN, for the hopeless TDS crowd.
May 2019- Iran attacks oil tankers in the Gulf.
June 2019- Iran shoots down US drone.
July 2019 - Iran seizes British oil tanker.
Sept. 2019 - Iran attacks Saudi state run oil company.
Dec. 2019 - Iran attacks US bases in Iraq.
Jan. 2020 -US airstrike kills Iranian general/well known terrorist while in Baghdad. (Just to clarify for you, Baghdad in NOT in Iran).
Jan. 2020 - Half-wit leftists blame Trump for trying to start a war and for missile happy twats in Iran shooting down a civilian airliner, IN IRAN!!

lol
so they shot down a drone over their territory, that's bad...?

thats when trump ordered their missiles hacked as it says in the news

US launched cyber attack on Iranian rockets and missiles – reports
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ssiles-reports
( yes sleeperz, alex the guardian jones lol, yah fool )

Gee, and you wonder why they accidental shot down that plane?...Holy f*ck man.
( smell the hate in your post, eh?)
BTW, those are mostly all questioned events as to their causes.

Quote:

Jan. 2020 -US airstrike kills Iranian general/well known terrorist while in Baghdad. (Just to clarify for you, Baghdad in NOT in Iran).

...so killers of isis are terrorists? Ain't that interesting.

The U.S. and Iran, though adversaries, are mutual enemies of ISIS and effectively fought against ISIS to crush the terrorist group’s de facto state in Iraq and Syria.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/06/us-i...soleimani.html
Last edited by Danbones; Jan 13th, 2020 at 11:06 PM..
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#268
Fox News host Tucker Carlson called out the hypocrisy of Republican pundits who are promoting the idea of a full-scale war with Iran on Monday night’s edition of his television program Tucker Carlson Tonight.

“Just the other day, you remember, our intelligence agencies were considered politically tainted and suspect,” Carlson said.

“Keep in mind these were the people who invented excuses to spy on the Trump campaign purely because they didn’t like Donald Trump’s foreign policy views,” Carlson continued, “and they’re the ones who pretended he was a Russian agent to try to keep him from governing, remember that?”

Carlson also said, “These were the same people who lied about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction back in 2002, and by doing that got us into an utterly pointless war that tremendously weakened our country.”
https://nationalfile.com/tucker-iran...t-iraq-russia/

Haters will lie...no doubt. Just like every war started by the US has turned out to be a lie after the fact. Just like they have over turned almost 70 governments (LIKE IRAN'S In 53) by various crooked means over the years.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if they suddenly, MAGICALLY, found some wmds in iraq in the near future that were just sitting there hiding in plain site the whole time...

Looks like it's the us and all it's little buddies that are the axis of evil. Example:

BBC producer drops bombshell by saying footage of 2018 Douma chemical attack was 'staged'
CGTN
1.07M subscribers
BBC Syria producer Riam Dalati dropped a bombshell on the Syrian crisis by stating that the hospital scene in video footage taken after a suspected chemical attack in April 2018 was "fake." This, again, puts the Western media's coverage of the alleged chemical attack into question
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xcsH2EJOis

Renowned MIT scientist Theodore Postol says a newly leaked OPCW report shows the supposed 2018 gas attack in Douma, Syria was “staged,” undermining the case for US strikes on the Syrian government.
https://thegrayzone.com/2019/05/25/o...eodore-postol/

Oh, the us has proof somewhere....lol...pfffft. Funny how they never do, it's ALWAYS a cohn.
Last edited by Danbones; Jan 14th, 2020 at 12:29 AM..
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
+1
#269
I wonder who the unlucky token bad guys will be? Anti Gov. protestors maybe?

Iran announces arrests over downing of Ukrainian plane

Iran’s President Calls for Special Court on Downed Plane
 
Jinentonix
No Party Affiliation
+2
#270
It's funny listening to the lefty half-wit brigade condemn Trump over Iran shooting down a commercial airliner in Iran while the citizenry in Iran are holding the Iranian leadership 100% responsible. Haven't seen a whole lot of "Death to America" from the Iranian protestors.


It's absolutely fascinatng listening to lefties continually take anyone's side but Trump's. They'll even back extremist RIGHT-WING assholes in Iran. What a f*cking joke. Western brain-dead lefties blaming Trump while the Iranian people lay the blame squarely where it belongs.

Why flight 752? There were 5 other commercial flights that left the airport that hour and none of them were shot down.