Is Canada ready for the coming electric vehicle revolution?


spilledthebeer
#1141
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

No, . . . When the gensets and prop are underwater they are held to the floor by a single cable, or a few if position is critical. An anchored blimp is the best example that is on land today. Service would be 2 super-tankers side-by-side and having a few cranes of suitable size to receive the module when it floats to the surface. Are you onboard or floundering still??






OKAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!



STOP TAKING LSD just before you start dreaming up IDIOT ANSWERS to sensible points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


If you are clean and sober when you start thinking.................................


you will find that you get MOCKED and RIDICULED much less often!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why dont you go look at the piers supporting the bridge between mainland and PEI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And then try to understand that anything anchored in the water around Canada will have to withstand hits from icebergs and floating pack ice during parts of each year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or you could take a look at the multiple TEN MILE LONG steel anchor lines attached to ten thousand tonne anchors that hold oil rigs in place during hurricane season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!


Of COURSE position is critical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


If the wind mill blows off to IRELAND........................................


it will require a HUGE electric extension cable to get any power back to Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Come on now MHz......................................


Admit it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You were NEVER an engineer as you claim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!


You were just the guy who swept the floors in the engineers offices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


An actual trained engineer could not be as clueless as you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
JLM
-1
#1142
From what I hear we don't even have to start worrying about it until 2040, at which time I'll be past middle age.
 
MHz
#1143
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

Why dont you go look at the piers supporting the bridge between mainland and PEI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And then try to understand that anything anchored in the water around Canada will have to withstand hits from icebergs and floating pack ice during parts of each year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do you understand what 'submerged' actually means? Do you know what 400ft is? Do you know anything at all??
You were just the guy who swept the floors in the engineers offices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Curious Cdn
#1144
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Do you understand what 'submerged' actually means? Do you know what 400ft is? Do you know anything at all??
You were just the guy who swept the floors in the engineers offices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can practically walk across that Strait at Cape Tormantine, it's so shallow. .... more like 40 feet.
 
MHz
#1145
Not nearly as shallow as the loco collective.
 
spilledthebeer
#1146
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

You can practically walk across that Strait at Cape Tormantine, it's so shallow. .... more like 40 feet.




DEPTH is not the issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Anything anchored in that water MUST withstand hits from ice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Therefor either a VERY WIDE base supporting a relatively narrow top....................................


meaning the narrow top offers a minimal target for drifting ice pack.............................



which is what they used for the PEI bridge..............................


or a smaller anchor type foundation dug VERY DEEP into the ocean bottom............................................


connected by heavy steel cables..............................



which is what they use to hold oil rigs in place is used...............................


is required to hold things in place off the Cdn coast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our resident LSD addict and Mindless Muslim propaganda minister MHz.................................


is operating on the assumption that a 150 ft high wind tower can be anchored in place....................................


in open ocean......................................



using some tent pegs and 1/4 inch yellow rope from Cdn Tire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our Mindless Muslim does not understand just how much CONCRETE AND STEEL is really required to keep a wind tower upright......



REGARDLESS of whether it is located on land or in water!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our Mindless Muslim LSD addicted dork looks at photos of wind towers in water...........................


and sees ONLY the narrow tube sticking up out of the waves.......................................


and drug addled MHz does not understand there is MUCH MORE under the water holding the towers up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Against the pressures of waves.........................


and WIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
MHz
#1147
Either of you know what 'the Gulf Stream is?
 
Curious Cdn
#1148
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Either of you know what 'the Gulf Stream is?

Nowhere near Canada, more's the pity.
 
spilledthebeer
#1149
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Either of you know what 'the Gulf Stream is?




Oh.......................MHz...................... .....


do YOU KNOW.......................................


what a full blown PSYCHOSIS IS?????????????????????????????????????


Your care givers have probably explained your condition to you.....................................


but your tinfoil hat was on too tight and blocked the explanation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

 
allabajkin
#1150
Electric cars are more environmentally friendly than on gasoline or diesel fuel. And the design of such machines is new for the consumer. Like from star wars. But what to do with old cars remains a mystery.
I thought about changing cars. But selling your car is hard in Canada. Many already want new technologies.
I've heard that there is a demand for Canadian cars in countries such as Belarus, Ukraine. Is it realistic to sell to these countries?
 
Curious Cdn
#1151
Quote: Originally Posted by allabajkin View Post

Electric cars are more environmentally friendly than on gasoline or diesel fuel. And the design of such machines is new for the consumer. Like from star wars. But what to do with old cars remains a mystery.
I thought about changing cars. But selling your car is hard in Canada. Many already want new technologies.
I've heard that there is a demand for Canadian cars in countries such as Belarus, Ukraine. Is it realistic to sell to these countries?

There is nothing environmentally friendly about the production of Lithium batteries. There is, as yet, no means of recycling them either. Also, how is your electricity generated to charge the car? Is it by burning something? By damming up river systems and destroying the valleys? By reacting radioactive poisons? The "greenness" of electric vehicles is a bit of an illusion.
 
spilledthebeer
#1152
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

Do you understand what 'submerged' actually means? Do you know what 400ft is? Do you know anything at all??
You were just the guy who swept the floors in the engineers offices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I know I would STILL BE SMARTER THAN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


Even if an NFL linebacker kicked me in the head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your experiments with LSD have rendered you unable to focus on coherent argument!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
spilledthebeer
#1153
Quote: Originally Posted by allabajkin View Post

Electric cars are more environmentally friendly than on gasoline or diesel fuel. And the design of such machines is new for the consumer. Like from star wars. But what to do with old cars remains a mystery.
I thought about changing cars. But selling your car is hard in Canada. Many already want new technologies.
I've heard that there is a demand for Canadian cars in countries such as Belarus, Ukraine. Is it realistic to sell to these countries?




OH LORDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


allabajkin is yet ANOTHER LSD fueled "engineer"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Another drug addled mess just like MHz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or maybe alabajkin IS MHz...................................how many alter egos does he REALLY HAVE?????????????????????????


And have they all met??????????????????????????????????????



And alabajkin says "he thought about changing cars"????????????????????????????


Why do I have a mental image of allabajkin peddling around in a human powered CLOWN CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Surely nobody would let him loose in a REAL CAR????????????????????????????


But wait..................................Our idiot Boy Justin has allowed Muslims who FAILED their drivers test to get out on the road with a "provisional" license!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


I guess allabajkin has one of those special LIE-beral "yes I fcuked up but I am special and govt lets me drive anyway" type licenses?????????????


And is it not ODD that although LIE-berals tell us that "driving is a privilege".................................


AND that they want to control access to guns.............................................. ...


LIE-berals consider that it is IMPORTANT to get former illegals into cars so they can get to their new jobs more easily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



AND most insanely of all..........................................


LIE-berals are willing to FORGET about photo ID for Muslims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


Just so long as the firearm buyer gets a letter from their Imam telling LIE-berals the applicant refuses to show their face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As for Allabajkin and his "idea" about shipping Cdn cars to eastern Europe.......................................


our LSD fueled engineer has NEGLECTED to consider that cargo ships run on DIESEL FUEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And shipping Cdn cars to eastern Europe would generate EVEN MORE POLLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!



And he has neglected to consider how much MORE POLLUTION would be produced if we gave away North American cars to the third world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


And then bought a bunch of new electric TOY cars for ourselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently allabajkin assumes that electric Toy cars are made from garden mulch or something of the sort?????????????????



What a Maroon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
 
Curious Cdn
+1
#1154
Let's see now .... burn natural gas to generate electricity to propel cars that can burn the same natural gas directly ... without the loss of efficiency incurred during the generation of the electricity.

http://youtu.be/Mswr-u99Lq0
 
JLM
-1
#1155
"Electric cars are more environmentally friendly than on gasoline or diesel fuel" - Probably not over the long haul!
 
Hoid
#1156
The scientists probably did not factor in all the things that the white nattys know.
 
Curious Cdn
#1157
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

The scientists probably did not factor in all the things that the white nattys know.

"The scientists" are not building cars. They are products that are manufactured and marketed to us by industrial giants. They sell what will sell ... nothing more, nothing less.

What's the difference between a propaganda campaign and an advertising blitz?
 
Hoid
#1158
No scientist has ever studied the environmental effects of automobiles.
 
JLM
-1
#1159
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

The scientists probably did not factor in all the things that the white nattys know.


I think you may be onto something!
 
JLM
-1
#1160
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

No scientist has ever studied the environmental effects of automobiles.

I'm sure they'll get around to it eventually.
 
Curious Cdn
#1161
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

No scientist has ever studied the environmental effects of automobiles.

Have any "scientists" added up the environmental cost of making lithium batteries because it's not insignificant?

http://www.engineering.com/Electroni...-Wreck-It.aspx

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithi...ronment-impact

http://www.theguardian.com/vital-sig...musk-powerwall
 
Cliffy
#1162
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Let's see now .... burn natural gas to generate electricity to propel cars that can burn the same natural gas directly ... without the loss of efficiency incurred during the generation of the electricity.

http://youtu.be/Mswr-u99Lq0

We produce enough methane to power cars just from our rotting vegetable matter. Kelowna buried their dump and siphoned off the gas but burned in a 200 foot stack instead of using the gas for something useful. Methane is one of the worst greenhouse gases but if burned in engines or for heating greenhouses to grow food, it could be very useful. But I guess there isn't enough money in it to please the rapers and pillagers.
 
Hoid
#1163
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Have any "scientists" added up the environmental cost of making lithium batteries because it's not insignificant?

http://www.engineering.com/Electroni...-Wreck-It.aspx

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/lithi...ronment-impact

http://www.theguardian.com/vital-sig...musk-powerwall

of course they have
 
Hoid
#1164
but because science is so swell it is currently working on replacing lithium with better and safer technology.

the sodium battery is an example

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0201081503.htm

Sodium is the new lithium: Researchers find a way to boost sodium-ion battery performance
Date:
February 1, 2019
Source:
Nagoya Institute of Technology
Summary:
Scientists have found the desirable component for sodium-ion batteries (SIB), which could contribute to boost SIB performance such as speed of charge. Despite lithium-ion batteries are currently popular, it is expected to find the new energy urgently, because lithium is not only expensive but limited. The findings show the possibility that SIB will be are attractive alternative for the lithium ion batteries.
 
spilledthebeer
#1165
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Let's see now .... burn natural gas to generate electricity to propel cars that can burn the same natural gas directly ... without the loss of efficiency incurred during the generation of the electricity.

http://youtu.be/Mswr-u99Lq0






OH Comrade Curious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You have noticed the ILL-LOGIC of LIE-beral thought!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


Very good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


Late in their mandate- Wynne-bag LIE-berals seriously considered BANNING ALL natural gas fueled appliances in Ontari-owe- meaning gas furnaces, gas stoves and gas bar-becues and etc............................................... ....


and then FORCING people to by all new ELECTRIC POWERED appliances!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The idea of forcing people to throw away brand new appliances was bad enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But the forced change over to electricity was EVEN WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The KEY PROBLEM is EFFICIENCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your natural gas furnace uses and recovers over 90 percent of the energy fed into it as it creates heat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As your furnace burns- the dangerous fumes go up the chimney....................................


but the heat the furnace generates is TRAPPED in your house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THIS IS NOT CASE with natural gas fueled electric generators!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!


The natural gas fueled electric generators are HUGE STEAM ENGINES........................................


and they operate at about 70 percent efficiency........................................ .............


a natural gas powered steam engine LEAKS A LOT MORE HEAT from pipes and vents and steam lines etc.................................... than the furnace in your basement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THE STEAM from the natural gas generator contains heat ENERGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And yet quantities of steam are VENTED and heat is lost from a steam engine as if it was useless exhaust!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is why your home furnace runs at NINETY PERCENT efficiency........................................ .....


while natural ga fueled steam generators run at SEVENTY PERCENT efficiency!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!



Making Ontari-owe home owners switch from natural gas appliances over to electrically powered units would BE VERY GOOD for LIE-beral electricity sales!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!


Which is why LIE-berals LIKED THE IDEA.............................................. ...


think of all that Hydro One GRAVY - for HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!


And then think of all the sales tax on new electrical appliances - FOR HOGS............................................


not to mention all the business generated as people got their homes rewired for that "better living through electricity" SCAM that LIE-berals wanted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And then understand that switching to all electric appliances would ACTUALLY FORCE MAJOR INCREASES in the use of natural gas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



To generate the extra electricity we needed using those 70 percent steam engines versus 90 percent efficiency home gas furnaces!!!!!!



And of course LIE-berals are DEADLY SERIOUS about making us STOP using ANY fossil fuel ........................................


FOR ANY REASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!


LIE-berals talk themselves in MORE CIRCLES when they speak of creating an electricity grid powered by renewable energy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals IGNORE the reality of our Circadian Rhythms and PRETEND that we are not geared to DAYLIGHT operations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals KNOW VERY WELL that whenever possible we want to operate in the daylight........................................


LIE-berals PRETEND we can operate in daylight and use electric TOY cars that recharge at night using renewable energy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



But it is during daylight that renewable energy is most efficient......................................... ....


At night- the sun is of course - GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And at night the wind DIES DOWN............................................


Renewable energy production in Ontari-owe falls to NEARLY ZERO at night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals know their idea of an electric car future fueled by renewable energy IS BULLSH+T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals know that the alleged green advantage of electric TOY cars is NOT NEARLY as green as they want to PRETEND!!!!!!!


Electric TOY car sales are SLOW mainly because of range and refueling issues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals know that electric TOY green efficiency is affected by HOW electricity is generated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


LIE-berals DO NOT want to discuss the reality that if we did adopt electric TOY cars in a big way.......................................


we would need a corresponding MAJOR INCREASE in either nuclear power generation OR more natural gas steam generators!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are talking themselves in CIRCLES YET AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



But LIE-berals DO NOT want to discuss the massive conflict between electric car customer desires and LIE-beral green propaganda meisters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Electric TOY car buyers DEMAND LONGER TOY RANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But the amount of energy consumed in producing batteries for the electric TOYS IS HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Producing the batteries is the MAJOR energy consuming component of the electric TOY car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The longer the TOY range.....................the less green the machine is................................................


because of all the energy needed to produce the bigger battery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And considering a Lithium toy car battery is expected last TEN YEARS before its range become so limited it is CRIPPLED beyond reasonable use.....................



LIE-berals are STUCK in an electric TOY car contradiction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The electric TOYS that customers want to buy are MUCH LESS GREEN than the electric TOYS that LIE-berals want us to BUY!!!!!!!!!!!


Voters are ALREADY DISGUSTED with LIE-beral manipulation of our electrical system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Voters are ALREADY DISGUSTED with LIE-beral financial games related to electric TOY car subsidies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Voters are ALREADY DISGUSTED with LIE-beral screw ups and SCANDALS related to LIE-beral contracts for "fast electric chargers in public places!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Voters are ALREADY DISGUSTED with LIE-berals who blithely assume they can DESTROY our lives.............................


while using OUR GRAVY to maintain THEIR carbon rich life style!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!