Ottawa to Provinces: A national carbon price is coming whether you like it or not


mentalfloss
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Ottawa to impose a national carbon price on the provinces

The Liberal government will move this fall to impose a minimum, national carbon price on provinces that fail to adopt their own pricing system for reducing greenhouse-gas emissions, a plan that is adamantly opposed by some key premiers.

Ottawa will require provinces to adopt either a carbon tax or cap-and-trade approach and to meet a federally established minimum price, Ms. McKenna said on CTV’s Question Period. The federal government will impose its own system on provinces that fail to meet that minimum threshold, the minister said.

“It’s mandatory that everyone will have to have a price on carbon,” Ms. McKenna said Sunday. “If provinces don’t do that, the federal government will provide a backstop.”

Ms. McKenna said the government will outline its plan prior to a first ministers’ meeting this fall at which federal, provincial and territorial leaders aim to conclude a national climate strategy.

Ottawa is looking at options for a carbon levy – likely in the form of higher taxes on fuels – that would be imposed on provinces that refuse to adopt their own plans or fail to meet the federal minimum price, sources have told The Globe and Mail.

The government’s determination to implement a national carbon price is meeting with resistance and some outright opposition from premiers. Provinces that already have carbon-pricing regimes, notably Quebec, worry that Ottawa will intervene and force them to get tougher, while the premiers in Saskatchewan and Nova Scotia argue that they have their own climate plans and that the federal approach will hurt key industries and consumers.

Ms. McKenna said that provinces can choose a tax on greenhouse-gas emissions, which British Columbia and Alberta have adopted, or the cap-and-trade approach favoured by Ontario and Quebec.

The price will have to be sufficiently high to encourage businesses and consumers to conserve energy or switch to cleaner, renewable sources, she said. And it will have to rise over time.

Ottawa to impose a national carbon price on the provinces - The Globe and Mail
 
taxslave
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Way to fukk the economy. Brilliant move by a useless PM dedicated to turning Canada into a third world country where the only people with money are trust fund kids and government employees.
 
Danbones
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A carbon tax is worse than religious indulgences, and even less provable
Its adherents intend to bone everyone...
Not just the little boys
As long as the boys at the top get their cut, it all good, and of course as always with them it's
" competition is a sin "
(just like with the dope dealing cartels they run, and the arms they sell...and the money they launder)

"In recent months, dioceses around the world have been offering Catholics a spiritual benefit that fell out of favor decades ago — the indulgence, a sort of amnesty from punishment in the afterlife — and reminding them of the church’s clout in mitigating the wages of sin.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/ny...ence.html?_r=0

well save some tar for the feathers
Last edited by Danbones; Sep 19th, 2016 at 06:59 AM..
 
Walter
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Guaranteed job killer and recession maker.
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Guaranteed job killer and recession maker.

A recession would be getting off light.
 
Danbones
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Hey, remember the good old days?
off the king if the weather sucks?
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Guaranteed job killer and recession maker.

Like the one Harper gave us last year?

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

A recession would be getting off light.

 
Durry
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I think the economy and the unemployment rate is going to have to get a lot worse for a longer period of time before the Lefties realize the Libs are going in the wrong direction.

For now the best one can do is to hunker down for the next three or four years and hope the debt does not go into a totally free fall in the interm.
 
petros
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Oh cool, Provinces sueing the Feds. This will be awesome.
 
Danbones
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here suey suey suey
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Like the one Harper gave us last year?

But there wasn't a recession last year.

Quote: Originally Posted by Durry View Post

I think the economy and the unemployment rate is going to have to get a lot worse for a longer period of time before the Lefties realize the Libs are going in the wrong direction.

For now the best one can do is to hunker down for the next three or four years and hope the debt does not go into a totally free fall in the interm.

Fight don't hunker. the Libs are counting on the electorate hunkering.
 
JamesBondo
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The country is wealthy in energy but it is not evenly distributed. Ontario and quebec are rich in hydro. Alberta is rich with oil patch jobs. Nova Scotia has neither, and they rely much more heavily on heating oil.

Sure enough, someone will look at Ontario's gas sipping cars, raise the rates on carbon with no consideration for Nova Scotians that are taking the bus, and heating their homes with oil.
 
lone wolf
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How much of this alleged tax will actually go to where it's supposed to? A vote for Liberals at any level is a vote for corporate greed and organized crime. They even stole the adjective....
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Oh cool, Provinces sueing the Feds. This will be awesome.

 
Remington1
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Someone needs to pay for Canada being the new 'hip example' to the rest of the world, but that cool status means giving away lots of money. Every time JT goes anywhere in the world, he's either pledging money or giving away something. I would be a lot more accepting if I did not see so much need right here in Canada. I still cannot get my head around the $1,000 a month (CPP + OAS) for our seniors.... it's absurd really. Could even one or two of the billion be kept here in Canada and given to our elderly?
 
MHz
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Where does the money end up?
 
mentalfloss
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Where do you think?
 
MHz
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World Banks
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by Durry View Post

I think the economy and the unemployment rate is going to have to get a lot worse for a longer period of time before the Lefties realize the Libs are going in the wrong direction.

For now the best one can do is to hunker down for the next three or four years and hope the debt does not go into a totally free fall in the interm.

You must be an ultra orthodox religious nut to believe the debt thing is not going all the way to hell. All the lefties and righties left the building a decade ago, or more. I look arround now and I can't really find any of either, they used to be thick here about and you could pick them from a crowd now everyone looks the same.

Quote: Originally Posted by Remington1 View Post

Someone needs to pay for Canada being the new 'hip example' to the rest of the world, but that cool status means giving away lots of money. Every time JT goes anywhere in the world, he's either pledging money or giving away something. I would be a lot more accepting if I did not see so much need right here in Canada. I still cannot get my head around the $1,000 a month (CPP + OAS) for our seniors.... it's absurd really. Could even one or two of the billion be kept here in Canada and given to our elderly?

The elderly know it's a mistake to get old in Canada, especially this time of year when next they will have to eat and freeze or heat and die of starvation. Ya Trudeau is very generous given the existing domestic insuffiencies. He's all smiles and flowers, hugs and kisses, he's no good for this country. He's wallpaper.
 
coldstream
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It will put the an immense and utterly useless burden on the Canadian economy and put it at a fragmenting competitive disadvantage in the Free Trade milieu. Especially now, in the growing certainty that Donald Trump, a firm AGW denier, will take the Whitehouse.

Justin is too weak and stupid to rise above the feminist, radical environmentalist, morally relativistic, death infused ideologies of our of our time, he has not the vision nor the intellectual and moral force of personality. He's a pusssywhipped little puppy on the leash of feminist, homosexual, gnostic and ecofascist cabals that control the Liberal Party.

The Liberals are on the wrong side of history. The represent a bankrupt philosophical system in economy and society that has spurred an electoral revolt throughout the West. The cohesion of the their caucus will disentangle as their poll numbers and prospects of reelection plummet.

Whatever they do.. it can be reversed as some reason and competence returns to governance.
Last edited by coldstream; Sep 19th, 2016 at 01:16 PM..
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHz View Post

World Banks

And?
 
lone wolf
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vanished forever from your pedigreed pocket
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

And?

Penny whistles, moonpies and a solar powered lemon drop house on candy cane lane.
 
Murphy
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The more money that is given to any level of government means the debt will climb.

Governments exist to grow larger. More people on the payroll. More taxes to levy. More waste and more slop. No worries, the next government (or ten) will have to deal with it.
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

But there wasn't a recession last year.


Fight don't hunker. the Libs are counting on the electorate hunkering.

Don't matter. Reality and flossy are not on speaking terms.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

But there wasn't a recession last year.

Do you ever get anything right?

'Technical recession' in Canada as economy shrank again: StatsCan | CTV News
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

Do you ever get anything right?

'Technical recession' in Canada as economy shrank again: StatsCan | CTV News

REad your link. The recession is in the last two Quarters. THat is the time we have been suffering under trudOWE.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

REad your link. The recession is in the last two Quarters. THat is the time we have been suffering under trudOWE.

The recession was during Harper's term last year.

It happened entirely under his watch.


 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

The recession was during Harper's term last year.

It happened entirely under his watch.


So no clue at all of what you posted. Your link said down in the last two QUarters. That would be this year after photo boy started ruining the country.
 
mentalfloss
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It's truly sad to see a person resorting to what conbots have become.

 

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