Canadians against Bush’s re-election petition


undergradNITZ
#31
i think the UN should house a super death ray or something that if there orders are not met then the people who do not obey are destroyed....its as simple as that..
 
Reverend Blair
#32
I never said it would be easy, but if a consensus is slowly built (something that is happening anyway) even the permanent members of the Security Council will have to accede that their power is no longer valid.

The funny thing is that at some point most of them have recognised that the other permanent member's powers should no longer be valid, but none of them have looked in the mirror and asked the same questions about their own power.

The UN does accomplish a lot though. Their biggest failures are in stopping armed conflicts and, since those are on the news every night, we see those failures all the time. The thing is that by the time the shooting starts everyone involved has already failed and the UN's attempts to step in after are a pretty tall order. Having a permanent force not dependent on the whims of individual governments would allow the UN to step in quickly, hopefully beforethe war got going.
 
Chewy
#33
I think the UN is very much like the US, they have strayed from their intended ideals.
 
passpatoo
#34
What the UN needs most at this point is its own military force. That force should be equipped to deal with crisis situations like Sudan or Rwanda and should be under the command of a leader from a middle power with a record of peace-keeping and maintaining the standards of human rights as expressed by the UN.


Something vital to all of this being successful is the removal of the Security Council members vetoes, possibly the entire Security Council.




Your comments put a smile on my face. It is good to know that someone else has the same thoughts as I do. Perhaps my ideas aren't so far out in left field afterall.
 
undergradNITZ
#35
mine are
 
peapod
#36
passpatoo,

From Algoma? what part? my grandmother lived in Blind River? Nice country algoma! Welcome to the borg...oh I mean board
 
passpatoo
#37
Elliot Lake.

Thanks, I've been reading the posts for a few weeks now and decided to jump in.
 
Andem
#38
I was just reading a similar thread on a different web site and found that there's a lot of "mind your own business, the U.S. isn't YOUR country" type of stuff. It's okay to say that if said country wasn't constantly create havoc in many parts of the world. That said, it effects us all when the representative of the most powerful country of the world is using his power for personal gain.

Let me reiterate to people who take interest in these topics (and I know there's a lot of people browsing these forums anonymously), put your name on the web site and we might, collectively, be able to convince some voters down south to GET RID OF BUSH. It's in their interest and it's in the world's interest.
 
Reverend Blair
#39
The US may not be our country, but the second their policies have an effect outside of their borders we have every right to criticise and suggest that the policies need to be changed.

It's funny, but Cellucci never hesitates to criticise us on everything...whether it is military policy or pot laws or same sex marriage, the man has spoken out publicly, as a representative of the Bush administration. We aren't supposed to talk about the US though, no matter what they do.
 
Chewy
#40
Personally I find criticism valuable; it’s a great check and balance of how well things are working. My rebuttal has always been from those in the US telling me to mind my own business it doesn’t concern my country has been to point out their countries lack of using that tactic themselves. As well as an allies we have a responsibility to let out friends know when they have a booger hanging out or spinach on their teeth. It’s our way of looking out for them, I’d expect the same from them.
 
peapod
#41
Chewy, this is where we veer, I think of it as one planet. Nobody has the right to claim any part of it! After all that would makes us gods wouldn't it?
 
Chewy
#42
Quote: Originally Posted by peapod

Chewy, this is where we veer, I think of it as one planet. Nobody has the right to claim any part of it! After all that would makes us gods wouldn't it?

Gods! No just foolish little people that think too much. I was taught something by an Elder at the school I work for, he said “we don’t own this land we borrow it from our grandchildren.”
I don’t think we own the land, I think we have borders. Sometimes there is a benefit to those sometimes is a hindrance.
 
peapod
#43
Just borders that humans make up, but they are not gods, so what gives them the right?

This logic keeps my life simple....more time for fishing.
 
Chewy
#44
haven't fished since I left Yukon, I miss it sometimes.
 
peapod
#45
The Yukon, you lucky dog! hey maybe if you started fishing again, you would still think about borders, but when fishing, they probally wouldn't cross your mind. Just you and the fish, in fact when you are out there its very hard to define what a border is. What dala lama book are your reading? I am pretty sure the dalma fishes, or if not he knows all about it
 
Chewy
#46
How to practice a meaningful life.

I do miss the fishing I think it’s more than just you and the fish, I once fished for 6 hours with no fly. I think sometimes it’s about just being there.
 
peapod
#47
Chewy,
question? are you refering to your pants or bait with regard to the fly? Sorry! I could not stop myself
 
Reverend Blair
#48
Quote:

My rebuttal has always been from those in the US telling me to mind my own business it doesn’t concern my country has been to point out their countries lack of using that tactic themselves. As well as an allies we have a responsibility to let out friends know when they have a booger hanging out or spinach on their teeth. It’s our way of looking out for them, I’d expect the same from them.

My way has always been to tell them that if they don't want to be criticised to quit doing things that have an effect on those outside their borders.
 
peapod
#49
Chewy,
you mentioned "elders" are you first nations if I may ask? Some of those elders are very wise peapod likes the way they speak about the woods and the creatures that live there. Most surprising of all though is some can actually talk to fish and other critters to

Here is a something strange that just happened to me, I think I only took notice of it because of this board. I mentioned to the iranian grocery awhile back that he should put some tables outside his store so people in the neighbourhood could saunter over and have a coffee ( oh his is so bad!) and chit chat. I hope my starbucks never finds out. Well he put some tables out (the coffee still sucks!) Since its my first stop on my walkabout the neighbourhood. Well when I stopped by there awhile ago, sitting outside at a table was the iranian grocery and his brother, the japanese florist from Zen gardens, the filipino who owns the bicycle shop, the gay hairdresser that has his shop next to the iranian grocery. Well there they were all sitting together laughing their heads off about something. It was kind of a strange sight, I must have seen it before I just never noticed. All those cultures and different nationalities having a good time together. Hey! you guys talking about me? had such a good time, I missed starbucks!

This place should start something like a town hall or something, we have an american, a muslim, and plenty of christians no doubt, french people...maybe more...we could ask them questions about their culture, their religion. I think I could round up a buddhist to come to a meeting.
 
Chewy
#50
Quote: Originally Posted by peapod

Chewy,
you mentioned "elders" are you first nations if I may ask? Some of those elders are very wise peapod likes the way they speak about the woods and the creatures that live there. Most surprising of all though is some can actually talk to fish and other critters to

Here is a something strange that just happened to me, I think I only took notice of it because of this board. I mentioned to the iranian grocery awhile back that he should put some tables outside his store so people in the neighbourhood could saunter over and have a coffee ( oh his is so bad!) and chit chat. I hope my starbucks never finds out. Well he put some tables out (the coffee still sucks!) Since its my first stop on my walkabout the neighbourhood. Well when I stopped by there awhile ago, sitting outside at a table was the iranian grocery and his brother, the japanese florist from Zen gardens, the filipino who owns the bicycle shop, the gay hairdresser that has his shop next to the iranian grocery. Well there they were all sitting together laughing their heads off about something. It was kind of a strange sight, I must have seen it before I just never noticed. All those cultures and different nationalities having a good time together. Hey! you guys talking about me? had such a good time, I missed starbucks!

This place should start something like a town hall or something, we have an american, a muslim, and plenty of christians no doubt, french people...maybe more...we could ask them questions about their culture, their religion. I think I could round up a buddhist to come to a meeting.

No I don't have the honor of being First Nations, I work in a school on a res. I love the fact we can have so many different views, that’s what I love about being in Canada too. BTW I think of myself as a Buddhist If that helps.
 
peapod
#51
See you cannot judge someone by appearances. By your avatar I thought maybe you were a Sasquatch. Just kidding I saw star wars But you are a buddhist. Any particular sect? I do know these words Kon'nichi wa. So than you know the island I spoke of Kuper island. It has very bad karma.
 
Chewy
#52
No sect yet still just studying.