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spaminator
#1141
Race for vote remains tight as election day nears
Brian Lilley
Published:
October 19, 2019
Updated:
October 19, 2019 6:13 PM EDT
Canadian Prime Minister and Liberal leader Justin Trudeau responds to a question during the Federal Leaders Debate in Gatineau, Quebec on October 7, 2019. (Photo by Sean KILPATRICK / POOL / AFP) (Photo by SEAN KILPATRICK/POOL/AFP via Getty Images)
Voting day is Monday but as of now the federal election remains too close to call, according to polling firm Campaign Research.
The company released a poll of 2,000 Canadians on Friday and with an additional 1,500 people surveyed, the race remains a tie between the Liberals and Conservatives nationally.
“This election has yet to break in favour of either party,” said Nick Kouvalis, principal of Campaign Research.
As of Saturday night the two main parties were tied at 31% a piece while the NDP sits at 17%, the Greens at 7% and People’s Party at 3%.
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“Over the last 3 days, on the national level, support for the parties has remained very stable,” Kouvalis said.
That means the election comes down to geography and voter turnout.
“In Ontario, the Liberals have opened up their lead over the Conservatives taking 37% support to 32% support. This is a critical measurement as the path to victory for the Liberals comes through Ontario. In the 905 though, it still seems that the Conservatives have a small lead,” Kouvalis said.
In Quebec, the Liberals have 34% voters support while the Bloc Quebecois sits at 28%, the Conservatives at 17%.
The Liberals also lead in Atlantic Canada, the Conservatives lead from Ontario to the B.C. coast where a three-way race continues.
The Liberals hold a lead among voters aged 18-34 and Conservatives lead among voters aged 35 and over. Conservatives hold a lead among men while Liberals lead among women.
This study was conducted by Campaign Research between Oct. 16 and 19, 2019, through an online survey of 3,541 randomly selected Canadian adults and has an estimated margin of error of +/- 1.6%, 19 times out of 20.
jwarmington@postmedia.com
http://campaignresearch.ca/single-po...es-in-deadlock
http://torontosun.com/news/national/...tion-day-nears
 
Walter
-1
#1142
Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

Race for vote remains tight as election day nears
Brian Lilley
Published:
October 19, 2019
Updated:
October 19, 2019 6:13 PM EDT
Canadian Prime Minister and Liberal leader Justin Trudeau responds to a question during the Federal Leaders Debate in Gatineau, Quebec on October 7, 2019. (Photo by Sean KILPATRICK / POOL / AFP) (Photo by SEAN KILPATRICK/POOL/AFP via Getty Images)
Voting day is Monday but as of now the federal election remains too close to call, according to polling firm Campaign Research.
The company released a poll of 2,000 Canadians on Friday and with an additional 1,500 people surveyed, the race remains a tie between the Liberals and Conservatives nationally.
“This election has yet to break in favour of either party,” said Nick Kouvalis, principal of Campaign Research.
As of Saturday night the two main parties were tied at 31% a piece while the NDP sits at 17%, the Greens at 7% and People’s Party at 3%.
WARMINGTON: Hurricane Hazel blows off Trudeau
BONOKOSKI: Who else but Trudeau finds a new low in honouring Persons Day?
“Over the last 3 days, on the national level, support for the parties has remained very stable,” Kouvalis said.
That means the election comes down to geography and voter turnout.
“In Ontario, the Liberals have opened up their lead over the Conservatives taking 37% support to 32% support. This is a critical measurement as the path to victory for the Liberals comes through Ontario. In the 905 though, it still seems that the Conservatives have a small lead,” Kouvalis said.
In Quebec, the Liberals have 34% voters support while the Bloc Quebecois sits at 28%, the Conservatives at 17%.
The Liberals also lead in Atlantic Canada, the Conservatives lead from Ontario to the B.C. coast where a three-way race continues.
The Liberals hold a lead among voters aged 18-34 and Conservatives lead among voters aged 35 and over. Conservatives hold a lead among men while Liberals lead among women.
This study was conducted by Campaign Research between Oct. 16 and 19, 2019, through an online survey of 3,541 randomly selected Canadian adults and has an estimated margin of error of +/- 1.6%, 19 times out of 20.
jwarmington@postmedia.com
http://campaignresearch.ca/single-po...es-in-deadlock
http://torontosun.com/news/national/...tion-day-nears

And Mrs. Clinton is POTUS.
 
spaminator
#1143
LILLEY: Final poll shows a tight race with lots of possibilities
Brian Lilley
Published:
October 20, 2019
Updated:
October 20, 2019 6:52 PM EDT
The Leader of Canada's Conservatives Andrew Scheer campaigns in Vancouver on Sunday. Carlos Osorio / Reuters
It’s tied nationally, but across the country it is a series of regional races that either see one party well ahead or a dog fight to the finish.
Bottom line is that in key battlegrounds like Ontario, Quebec and British Columbia the winner will be decided by who shows up.
The latest national numbers from Campaign Research show the Liberals and Conservatives tied at 31%, the NDP at 18%, the Greens at 9% and the People’s Party at 3%.
“It is impossible to predict who will win the most votes, the most seats and ultimately form a government,” said pollster Nick Kouvalis of Campaign Research.
“The electorate seems to be locked in with their choices and there doesn’t seem to be any movement between the parties over the last 4 days.’
It is a cliche in political races that GOTV, otherwise known as ‘get-out-the-vote’ really matters, but it this race it will decide who has the most seats, who has the best shot at forming government.
“As many as 40 ridings, or more, across the country will be won or lost by 1,000 votes or less. I don’t think the winner will be clear until many hours after the polls close,” said Kouvalis.
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So how do things look beyond the national numbers?
In Atlantic Canada, the Liberals retain a strong lead at 34% across the region compared to 21% for the Conservatives and 19% for the NDP. That is still far lower than 2015 when the Liberals swept every seat and won most areas with close to 60% of the vote.
Expect the Liberals to lose seats but retain the majority of the 32 up for grabs in the region.
Across the Prairies the Conservatives hold a strong lead. The NDP holds 5 seats and should walk away with that many, the Liberals could lose several of the 12 seats they won in 2015 meaning pickups for the Conservatives.
That leaves Ontario, Quebec and BC and there isn’t a region where the Liberals won’t lose seats — the question is how many they will lose and to which party.
British Columbia was very good to the Liberals in the last election but now the party is in a three way race with the Conservatives and NDP and the only demographic they hold a lead among is women 55 and over.
In Quebec all the other parties will be losing seats to a resurgent Bloc Quebecois harming the election strategy of the Liberals and Conservatives – both parties had banked heavily in winning more seats in Quebec.
As for Ontario, the Liberals hold a lead over the Conservatives – 37% to 34% – but those province wide numbers are skewed by heavy support in Toronto where the Liberals already hold all the seats and by support in the 40% range with voters aged 18-34, one of the least reliable groups of voters.
And this is why the party that can deliver their voters to the polling stations will matter. Both parties have a shot at taking the most seats but depending on who shows up, where those voters show up and how vote splits break down, this tight race has the potential to break wide open for one side or another come Monday.
This study was conducted by Campaign Research between October 16th and 19th, 2019 through an online survey of 5039 randomly selected Canadian adults and has an estimated margin of error of +/- 1.4%, 19 times out of 20.
http://campaignresearch.ca/single-po...ity-Government
http://torontosun.com/opinion/column...-possibilities
Last edited by spaminator; 3 weeks ago at 03:26 AM..
 
spaminator
#1144
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
-1
#1145
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

WELL GOSH.......................................


THAT IS A GOOD POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


About two LIE-berals who were THROWN OUT OF THE PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


FOR BEING HONEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As fro other LIE-berals who may be essentially honest....................................


we have a phrase to describe such people:::::::::::


"powerless back benchers"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


NO INFLUENCE - means no ability to make trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I think setting a good example trumps making trouble! Pun not intended!
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
-1
#1146
Quote: Originally Posted by spaminator View Post

LILLEY: Final poll shows a tight race with lots of possibilities
Brian Lilley
Published:
October 20, 2019
Updated:
October 20, 2019 6:52 PM EDT
The Leader of Canada's Conservatives Andrew Scheer campaigns in Vancouver on Sunday. Carlos Osorio / Reuters
It’s tied nationally, but across the country it is a series of regional races that either see one party well ahead or a dog fight to the finish.
Bottom line is that in key battlegrounds like Ontario, Quebec and British Columbia the winner will be decided by who shows up.
The latest national numbers from Campaign Research show the Liberals and Conservatives tied at 31%, the NDP at 18%, the Greens at 9% and the People’s Party at 3%.


Watch the indigenous vote! That might just tell the story. Vancouver Granville is another omen.
 
Twin_Moose
Conservative
#1147
One last push to prop up the Libs. $650+ Million reasons to do so since it is pretty much linked to this election

The final 338Canada projection: The most uncertain federal election in decades
 
Hoid
#1148
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Scheer

Heh Heh Heh.

for once Clompy nails it.

Scheer heh heh heh indeed.
 
MHz
#1149
Quote: Originally Posted by BubberMiley View Post

I've just received word that Hoof will not be on this site until his shift is over at Labour Ready. I hope Money Mart cashes his cheque.

When is your shift over or are you 'shiftless' like my last 3 cars and 5 girlfriends??



Quote: Originally Posted by BubberMiley View Post

Having said that, I noticed that Opiumproduction dropped dramatically in 2001. I did some research, and the Taliban put out an edict in late 2000 stating that Opium production would be punished by death. Apparently,it did not jibe with their strict version of Sharia Law

Just get you bill for the last year or the next year?? They have the same 'law' in Laos, all it means is the Government is the only dealer allowed and 'free-lancers' will die for their troubles, when caught rather than 'if caught'. The dip was in the Golden Triangle production as Afghan was just ramping up production.

FYI, the thugs the US left in charge after the USSR folded in 1990 became the Taliban, you know the ones brought to Texas by Bush before 9/11.

Libya seems to have been able to set up a huge social program while remaining Muslim. The Jews are a lot more socialists than Muslims and they seem to be doing okay in the money dept. Course that would change drastically if they had to stop their criminal ways. (while Muslims would have to start)


Quote: Originally Posted by BubberMiley View Post

Luckily for the addicts of the World, 9/11 happened, and that ended the War on Drugs in Afghanistan, as it is hard to enforce when the World's most powerful country is bombing the shit out of you.

How odd that the US is also the country that saw the biggest rise in low level addicts. You forgot to mention that 'white collar professionals' use 98% of the heroin produced all by themselves.
Egypt started out and that is how the EU Royals and Rich got hooked. They needed the help of the RCC to get it out of the hands of the general public and make it a black market only item.


That is when the story really takes off in that the smarter it made them the more insane their actions became. Was that the heroin or being a chronic liar that caused that flaw?
 
Colpy
Conservative
+4
#1150
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

for once Clompy nails it.

Scheer heh heh heh indeed.


Well, according to the Rules According to Hoid, Trudeau should resign and let the other parties form gov't, as the Liberal Party is no longer a "national party"


Remember that chat? When you said the Conservatives should never form gov't because they had no seats in the Maritimes? And only 11 in Quebec?


Well, the Liberals hold no seats between the Manitoba/Saskatchewan border and the west side of the Rockies............


NOT a national party.
 
Walter
+3 / -1
#1151
Nary a werd from the progs who said Mrs. Clinton should be POTUS cuz she won the most votes. The Conservative won the most votes so, according to the progs, the Conservatives should be the party in power.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#1152
Sniff...
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#1153
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Nary a werd from the progs who said Mrs. Clinton should be POTUS cuz she won the most votes. The Conservative won the most votes so, according to the progs, the Conservatives should be the party in power.

Neither of them would be President under our system, you imbecile.

If nobody gets 50%+1, it goes to the House of Representatives.

I'd suggest you limit yourself to talking about what you know something about, but that would make you even more limited.
 
Hoid
#1154
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Well, according to the Rules According to Hoid, Trudeau should resign and let the other parties form gov't, as the Liberal Party is no longer a "national party"


Remember that chat? When you said the Conservatives should never form gov't because they had no seats in the Maritimes? And only 11 in Quebec?


Well, the Liberals hold no seats between the Manitoba/Saskatchewan border and the west side of the Rockies............


NOT a national party.

heh heh heh

losers always have all the answers
 
Colpy
Conservative
+6
#1155
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

heh heh heh

losers always have all the answers


LOL


66.9% of the people voted to fire Trudeau.


The Conservatives gained 26 seats, Trudeau lost 20 seats.


The Conservatives beat the Liberals by 1.3% in the popular vote.



Obviously, Trudeau did not win because the people love him.



He can't go 6 months without a major SNAFU.


I'm not thrilled at the result, but it ain't bad.


And before anyone goes there, the result is the result. It is how our system works. Fully legitimate, Trudeau is PM........but the Liberals have some real problems on the horizon.
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+2
#1156
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

LOL
66.9% of the people voted to fire Trudeau.
The Conservatives gained 26 seats, Trudeau lost 20 seats.
The Conservatives beat the Liberals by 1.3% in the popular vote.
Obviously, Trudeau did not win because the people love him.
He can't go 6 months without a major SNAFU.
I'm not thrilled at the result, but it ain't bad.
And before anyone goes there, the result is the result. It is how our system works. Fully legitimate, Trudeau is PM........but the Liberals have some real problems on the horizon.


The Liberals Achilles heel is the western Pipeline. They will have to force it through BC. (They do have the power to do so) in a somewhat similar way that MacDonald had to jam the CPR through at the beginning of the Federation.

The NDP and Greens will almost certainly oppose it. The Conservatives COULD support the Liberals to get 'er done or they may recognise the strategic advantage that they hold and bring the government down.
 
Colpy
Conservative
+3
#1157
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

The Liberals Achilles heel is the western Pipeline. They will have to force it through BC. (They do have the power to do so) in a somewhat similar way that MacDonald had to jam the CPR through at the beginning of the Federation.

The NDP and Greens will almost certainly oppose it. The Conservatives COULD support the Liberals to get 'er done or they may recognise the strategic advantage that they hold and bring the government down.


Absolutely correct, except for one small detail....the Conservatives WILL support the pipeline, even if it means voting with the Liberals.


They have to, or they will die in Alberta and Saskatchewan.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
+1
#1158
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

LOL


66.9% of the people voted to fire Trudeau.


The Conservatives gained 26 seats, Trudeau lost 20 seats.


The Conservatives beat the Liberals by 1.3% in the popular vote.



Obviously, Trudeau did not win because the people love him.



He can't go 6 months without a major SNAFU.


I'm not thrilled at the result, but it ain't bad.


And before anyone goes there, the result is the result. It is how our system works. Fully legitimate, Trudeau is PM........but the Liberals have some real problems on the horizon.


Good to see some wisdom on here once in awhile. There was one bright spot in the whole charade yesterday. Jody Wilson - Raybould reclaimed her seat and now for four years she gets to sit within spitting distance of Justin so that every time he looks up he gets to see her face just to remind him what a jerk he's been!
 
Hoid
#1159
Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy View Post

Absolutely correct, except for one small detail....the Conservatives WILL support the pipeline, even if it means voting with the Liberals.


They have to, or they will die in Alberta and Saskatchewan.

they have no seats in Alberta or Sask. now do they?
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
-1
#1160
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

heh heh heh

losers always have all the answers


You've demonstrated that well many times!
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
+1
#1161
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

they have no seats in Alberta or Sask. now do they?

If Trudeau were at all wise and if his Liberal Party handlers weren't a bunch of self serving wankers, he would dip into the Senate and include a couple or three Western Senators into his Cabinet. Do it for the country, Justin.



I'm just talking to myself, aren't I?
 
Hoid
#1162
If the west wants someone in cabinet they can vote a liberal in.

having a couple of conservative hacks from the west in a liberal cabinet makes no sense whatsoever.
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
-1
#1163
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

If the west wants someone in cabinet they can vote a liberal in.

having a couple of conservative hacks from the west in a liberal cabinet makes no sense whatsoever.


F**king Liberal? Don't be daft!
 
Hoid
#1164
Both Saskatchewan and Alberta had Liberals cabinet members they voted out this time.

Sorry about your luck.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
+1
#1165
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

F**king Liberal? Don't be daft!

F**king Conservative? Don't be daft!
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#1166
Quote: Originally Posted by Curious Cdn View Post

Just in:
...I'm just talking to myself, aren't I?

What took you so long to realize that? Wake up!

We are all you.
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
#1167
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

F**king Conservative? Don't be daft!

Stuck on repeat

again?
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#1168
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

F**king Liberal? Don't be daft!

Calm down
 
spilledthebeer
#1169
Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck View Post

Calm down




How about that - I PREDICTED over two years ago



that the best Our idiot Boy Justin could come up with was a



short lived MINORITY govt -and lo - THAT HAS COME TO



PASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And now Our idiot Boy and Jagmeet (deadmeat) Singh have to somehow PLAY NICE for mutual support!! And WHAT could go wrong with that?? Let us consider:

First off there is Lavalin - which LIE-berals DESPERATELY want us to FORGET!!
Except there are STILL those pesky corruption and bribery charges out there!! Some thing will have to be done about that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Those with good memory will recall that the RCMP Investigation into Lavalin - AND into possible charges of LIE-berals obstructing justice were HALTED by the election since cops do not investigate political parties in the midst of an election - but the election is OVER and Lavalin - just like Frankenstein - is ALIVE AGAIN!!)

LIE-berals have used and BENT privacy laws and parliamentary privilege thus far to DELAY - but such privilege was NOT created so LIE-berals could HIDE LAW BREAKING!! At some point a JUDGE is going to have to look at the LIE-beral CRAP - and it WILL NOT be some TAME judge appointed by the LIE-beral party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But before we get to a judge - Our idiot Boy is going to have to EXPLAIN to his new partner Jagmeet and hand over enough details that Jag can decide whether he wants to hook his NDPee wagon to the LIE-beral MULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jag will no doubt recall the popularity HIT that Ontari-owe NDPees under Horvath took when they propped up the Wynne-bag LIE-berals during the gas plant scandal -and Lavalin is AT LEAST AS UGLY as the gas plant mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is unlikely that Jag will sign onto a minority govt unless he feels SAFE in doing so!! LIE-berals can be expected to tell Jag AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE so nobody will need to deny things later - but Jag WILL EXPECT MOST of the truth - to protect himself!! We should assume that if the TRUTH is TOO UGLY - and ends up looking like being spilled to the public - Jag WILL NOT PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then there is the spring 2019 budget !! Govt can coast along till spring - but after that a BUDGET must be put to a vote - and that is where the NEXT chunk of fun starts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LIE-berls see their support largely amongst civil service union HOGS - with one employed Cdn in three working for a govt pay cheque!! And HOGS want MORE GRAVY!! And they RESENT seeing their gravy spent on welfare bums and drug addicts and illegals - meaning assorted people WHOSE ONLY CONTRIBUTION to society - in the eyes of HOGS - is to vote for LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Down town Toronto is a solid LIE-beral RED district and its also where a LOT of drug addicts and illegals are piling up!! HOGS do not like the crime and filth and chaos that comes with homeless shelters and harm reduction drug shops - nor do thei like all the violence from gang bangers - thus HOGS NEED MORE GRAVY - to put up with the chaos LIE-berals are creating!!!!

By comparison - NDPees seem to get more support from the working poor and the young - the very people that LIE-berals WANT TO TAX so they can get the gravy they need to placate HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOOK for some VERY STORMY behind the scenes tantrums between LIE-berals and NDPees as they sort out their first budget - assuming that Lavalin does not DERAIL the not yet born alliance - Singh has been hesitant so far and maybe he is just bargaining hard - or maybe he IS WORRIED about Lavalin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Canada is already perilously close to the debt wall as it is - with assorted noises warning us of Recession to come one day soon!! The Fraser Institute and others have told us that our debts are bearable - as long we don’t get any hard economic knocks - but our economy is balanced on a knife edge in a world full of trade wars and growing protectionism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Both Jag and Justin want to KILL Kinder Morgan pipeline - with resulting perilous consequences for both Alberta and for Canada!! There are already RUMBLINGS from B.C. that the oil companies are punishing that province with HIGH OIL PRICES for opposing Kinder Morgan and there is NO REASON not to assume the grumblers are right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But idiot LIE-berals have not considered what would happen if Alberta was driven into bankruptcy!! That $63 billion dollar stranded Alberta debt would instantly become the problem for Ottawa- meaning INSTANT CURTAILING of any more Ottawa borrowing and DRASTIC economic consequences for the country!!!!!!!!!!!

If we hit the debt wall -then our borrowing is CURTAILED and our economy goes into a NOSE DIVE while we adjust to the LOSS of that $20 billion dollar Ottawa deficit funding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And there will be additional payments DEMANDED so we can restore the confidence of international bankers that we STILL CAN AND WILL pay what we owe!! If we FAIL to recover that banker confidence then we will get hit in various PUNITIVE WAYS for our careless ways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All this will leave the Jays - Jag and Justin squabbling over what little gravy is left after the bankers take their CUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jag sees nothing wrong with mauling corporations to pay for his political crap and the last time we had a major NDPee govt go after corporations - we ended up with Bob Rae Days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AS I have said before the idiot Boy is engaged in a bigger and more costly and eventually more damaging version of the Ontari-owe NDPee effort to make us rich with borrowed money!! Things went so BADLY for Rae that he was forced to LEAVE the NDPees and temporarily join the LIE-berals just so he could PRETEND he had a job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jag will be pushing hard for HIGH corporate taxes and Justin will be pushing for neat back room deals that SAVE GRAVY for the HOG OWNERS of all that corporate stock!!

The Jays- Justin and Jag - will NOT resolve this CRAP with a coin toss - it is more likely to be a WRESTLING MATCH on the lawn in front of Parliament!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And next spring The Jays will have to figure out how to deal with equalization payments and of course Justin will want the Quebec gravy train to continue for HIS benefit- and Jag will expect MORE GRAVY for B.C. and BOTH will be looking to HIT Ontari-owe with reduced transfers and that will harm the solid LIE-beral base in Toronto HOGTOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Such conflicting needs will be resolved in several possible ways!! The Jays may try MORE BORROWING to resolve their needs - but that debt wall and Recession thing are TOO CLOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Jays may RAISE TAXES - just as Conservatives warned they would which will make the Minority govt UNPOPULAR and might give Conservatives the EDGE next time around after all - minority govts are NOTABLE for their DEBTS and waste!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Jays may try to reduce spending but such an act will be a MONUMENTAL MORAL AND PHYSICAL CHALLENGE!! One so severe they have NO experience of it and of course people would then ask - if govt is going to reduce spending then why did we not just VOTE CONSERVATIVE so the MESS could be cleaned up in a sensible way????????????????????

So after predicting the Minority govt two years back - here is my PREDICTION for the NEXT two years :: There is reason to believe that the Jays can PROBABLY cobble together a budget for spring 2020!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And they MAY EVEN get a budget passed in 2021!! But AFTER THAT - all bets are OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After two budgets the competing demands and battles over gravy and the probable STENCH of the Lavalin Issue will pull the alliance apart and precipitate another election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In fact - depending how Lavalin plays out - The Jays MAY NOT even work together even until next spring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT is one thing for Jag to shrug and “choose forward” with a LIE-beral alliance!! It is quite another thing to “choose forward with a convicted LIE-beral felon” - assuming Lavalin is as DIRTY as the rumours make it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jag is right to be CAUTIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#1170
Quote: Originally Posted by spilledthebeer View Post

How about that - I PREDICTED over two years ago



that the best Our idiot Boy Justin could come up with was a



short lived MINORITY govt -and lo - THAT HAS COME TO



PASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And now Our idiot Boy and Jagmeet (deadmeat) Singh have to somehow PLAY NICE for mutual support!! And WHAT could go wrong with that?? Let us consider:

First off there is Lavalin - which LIE-berals DESPERATELY want us to FORGET!!
Except there are STILL those pesky corruption and bribery charges out there!! Some thing will have to be done about that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those with good memory will recall that the RCMP Investigation into Lavalin - AND into possible charges of LIE-berals obstructing justice were HALTED by the election since cops do not investigate political parties in the midst of an election - but the election is OVER and Lavalin - just like Frankenstein - is ALIVE AGAIN!!)
LIE-berals have used and BENT privacy laws and parliamentary privilege thus far to DELAY - but such privilege was NOT created so LIE-berals could HIDE LAW BREAKING!! At some point a JUDGE is going to have to look at the LIE-beral CRAP - and it WILL NOT be some TAME judge appointed by the LIE-beral party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But before we get to a judge - Our idiot Boy is going to have to EXPLAIN to his new partner Jagmeet and hand over enough details that Jag can decide whether he wants to hook his NDPee wagon to the LIE-beral MULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jag will no doubt recall the popularity HIT that Ontari-owe NDPees under Horvath took when they propped up the Wynne-bag LIE-berals during the gas plant scandal -and Lavalin is AT LEAST AS UGLY as the gas plant mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is unlikely that Jag will sign onto a minority govt unless he feels SAFE in doing so!! LIE-berals can be expected to tell Jag AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE so nobody will need to deny things later - but Jag WILL EXPECT MOST of the truth - to protect himself!! We should assume that if the TRUTH is TOO UGLY - and ends up looking like being spilled to the public - Jag WILL NOT PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then there is the spring 2019 budget !! Govt can coast along till spring - but after that a BUDGET must be put to a vote - and that is where the NEXT chunk of fun starts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berls see their support largely amongst civil service union HOGS - with one employed Cdn in three working for a govt pay cheque!! And HOGS want MORE GRAVY!! And they RESENT seeing their gravy spent on welfare bums and drug addicts and illegals - meaning assorted people WHOSE ONLY CONTRIBUTION to society - in the eyes of HOGS - is to vote for LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Down town Toronto is a solid LIE-beral RED district and its also where a LOT of drug addicts and illegals are piling up!! HOGS do not like the crime and filth and chaos that comes with homeless shelters and harm reduction drug shops - nor do thei like all the violence from gang bangers - thus HOGS NEED MORE GRAVY - to put up with the chaos LIE-berals are creating!!!!
By comparison - NDPees seem to get more support from the working poor and the young - the very people that LIE-berals WANT TO TAX so they can get the gravy they need to placate HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOOK for some VERY STORMY behind the scenes tantrums between LIE-berals and NDPees as they sort out their first budget - assuming that Lavalin does not DERAIL the not yet born alliance - Singh has been hesitant so far and maybe he is just bargaining hard - or maybe he IS WORRIED about Lavalin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Canada is already perilously close to the debt wall as it is - with assorted noises warning us of Recession to come one day soon!! The Fraser Institute and others have told us that our debts are bearable - as long we don’t get any hard economic knocks - but our economy is balanced on a knife edge in a world full of trade wars and growing protectionism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Both Jag and Justin want to KILL Kinder Morgan pipeline - with resulting perilous consequences for both Alberta and for Canada!! There are already RUMBLINGS from B.C. that the oil companies are punishing that province with HIGH OIL PRICES for opposing Kinder Morgan and there is NO REASON not to assume the grumblers are right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But idiot LIE-berals have not considered what would happen if Alberta was driven into bankruptcy!! That $63 billion dollar stranded Alberta debt would instantly become the problem for Ottawa- meaning INSTANT CURTAILING of any more Ottawa borrowing and DRASTIC economic consequences for the country!!!!!!!!!!!
If we hit the debt wall -then our borrowing is CURTAILED and our economy goes into a NOSE DIVE while we adjust to the LOSS of that $20 billion dollar Ottawa deficit funding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And there will be additional payments DEMANDED so we can restore the confidence of international bankers that we STILL CAN AND WILL pay what we owe!! If we FAIL to recover that banker confidence then we will get hit in various PUNITIVE WAYS for our careless ways!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All this will leave the Jays - Jag and Justin squabbling over what little gravy is left after the bankers take their CUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jag sees nothing wrong with mauling corporations to pay for his political crap and the last time we had a major NDPee govt go after corporations - we ended up with Bob Rae Days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AS I have said before the idiot Boy is engaged in a bigger and more costly and eventually more damaging version of the Ontari-owe NDPee effort to make us rich with borrowed money!! Things went so BADLY for Rae that he was forced to LEAVE the NDPees and temporarily join the LIE-berals just so he could PRETEND he had a job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jag will be pushing hard for HIGH corporate taxes and Justin will be pushing for neat back room deals that SAVE GRAVY for the HOG OWNERS of all that corporate stock!!
The Jays- Justin and Jag - will NOT resolve this CRAP with a coin toss - it is more likely to be a WRESTLING MATCH on the lawn in front of Parliament!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And next spring The Jays will have to figure out how to deal with equalization payments and of course Justin will want the Quebec gravy train to continue for HIS benefit- and Jag will expect MORE GRAVY for B.C. and BOTH will be looking to HIT Ontari-owe with reduced transfers and that will harm the solid LIE-beral base in Toronto HOGTOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Such conflicting needs will be resolved in several possible ways!! The Jays may try MORE BORROWING to resolve their needs - but that debt wall and Recession thing are TOO CLOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Jays may RAISE TAXES - just as Conservatives warned they would which will make the Minority govt UNPOPULAR and might give Conservatives the EDGE next time around after all - minority govts are NOTABLE for their DEBTS and waste!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Jays may try to reduce spending but such an act will be a MONUMENTAL MORAL AND PHYSICAL CHALLENGE!! One so severe they have NO experience of it and of course people would then ask - if govt is going to reduce spending then why did we not just VOTE CONSERVATIVE so the MESS could be cleaned up in a sensible way????????????????????
So after predicting the Minority govt two years back - here is my PREDICTION for the NEXT two years :: There is reason to believe that the Jays can PROBABLY cobble together a budget for spring 2020!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And they MAY EVEN get a budget passed in 2021!! But AFTER THAT - all bets are OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After two budgets the competing demands and battles over gravy and the probable STENCH of the Lavalin Issue will pull the alliance apart and precipitate another election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In fact - depending how Lavalin plays out - The Jays MAY NOT even work together even until next spring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT is one thing for Jag to shrug and “choose forward” with a LIE-beral alliance!! It is quite another thing to “choose forward with a convicted LIE-beral felon” - assuming Lavalin is as DIRTY as the rumours make it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jag is right to be CAUTIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The G.T.A. voted Lieberal because of YOU, Murphy.

You overplayed your hand!
 

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