federal election


lambertbob912
#301
Don'r forget to vote after work if you have not done it already!
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
+1
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spaminator
+1
#303
Independent Senator Andre Pratte announces resignation on election night
Canadian Press
Published:
October 21, 2019
Updated:
October 21, 2019 10:34 PM EDT
Andre Pratte. (Marie-Eve Larente photo via Wikipedia)
OTTAWA — Andre Pratte announced his resignation from the Senate on Monday night, just as the federal election results were rolling in.
The Independent senator from Quebec posted his resignation letter on Twitter to explain his decision.
André Pratte resigns from the Senate
On October 10th, I sent my letter of resignation to Her Excellency, the Right Honourable Julie Payette, Governor General of Canada. My resignation from the Senate is effective tonight, Monday October 21st, at 9 :30 PM, Eastern Time. pic.twitter.com/68qdedS6TQ
— Andre Pratte (@apratte) October 22, 2019
“In any professional journey, there can come a time when we realize that we simply … do not have the skills and motivation required to accomplish the task we have been entrusted with,” wrote Pratte, who was appointed to the Senate in 2016 by Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau.
“After three and a half years in the Senate of Canada, I have come to this conclusion.”
Pratte said it saddened him to betray the trust that Trudeau had in him — but he added it would be even more of a betrayal to continue in a role without meeting the level of excellence expected.
He said his resignation had nothing to do with the election and he chose the specific timing to ensure it would not be a distraction from the campaign.
“I would like to take this opportunity to express my admiration for the senators who sit in the chamber today, as well as for the Senate’s devoted personnel,” said the former newspaper columnist and editor.
“I worked alongside individuals with exceptional skills and dedication. They certainly do not deserve the harsh judgment that too many Canadians hold in regard to this great institution.”

http://torontosun.com/news/national/...election-night
 
Hoid
#304
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

The end is nigh

The NDP will be able to press the Liberals on this now.
 
MHz
#305
a levy to be paid by a company every time it replaces a worker with a machine, part of a strategy to ease the impact of the growth of artificial intelligence.


Why go small, levy a tax on every company that has an employee that uses a machine presently as that used to be a person, bit drunk but a person all the same. Give the 'out of a job person' a free 'Travel BC' card so he can at least help the tourism industry survive. Perhaps have it work at the stores that supply parts to fix old machines in case somebody that used to help you dies while on vacation.
 
MHz
+1
#306
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

The end is nigh

The NDP will be able to press the Liberals on this now.

Why don't the Libs and Cons hook up. It isn't like either of them caught SNC, or anybody else. Probably even save some bribery money for 'whomever' along the way.


The little guys could join up so no majority can be formed and run on a platform that Canadians need a Federal Government or Provincial ones but not both in this day and age that started with 'electricity'.
As it stands a simgle independent could get a petition going that would make every bill something that would have to be on a referendum vote. Like the SNC thing should have been and the people of Canada would decide if they could remain in business or not, without all the hidden drama from both the Cons and the Libs. Show they were working hand in hand and the military would be appointing the next Government employees. (ones that are good at using computers)
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
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Walter
+1 / -1
#308
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Prog shit.
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#309
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Prog shit.


 
spilledthebeer
#310
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post








IN OTHER WORDS - proportional representation would NOT have changed anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But of course your neat little prop/rep chart IS A LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The reality is there would have been all sorts of SMALL and often lunatic fringe parties that would have got onto your chart and messed it up!!!!!!!!!!!!


Five years ago - Toronto Red Star told us it cost AT LEAST $100 grand to run a campaign for an MP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AS with ALL GOVT things - that cost HAS GONE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That cost translates into fringe groups NOT BOTHERING to run in an election because it is a waste of money..........................



for NO RESULTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just LOOK at the Max Bernier results!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The guy is an EXPERIENCED and knowledgeable politician and yet made NO political HEADWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bernier did not even win his own seat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


BUT- and this is the CRITICAL FACT - Proportional Representation WOULD HAVE GIVEN Bernier some seats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Proportional Representation WOULD HAVE GIVEN Conservatives more seats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Proportional Representation WOULD HAVE ALLOWED ALL SORTS OF LUNATIC FRINGE PARTIES..............................


to get seats in our parliament!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Italy has proportional representation - AND also has PERPETUAL POLITICAL CHAOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Proportional representation ENSURES A TOTAL LACK of long term planning for anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As the Italians HAVE PROVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Israel has proportional representation and many people DEPLORE the endless debate and perpetual wrangling that comes with......


having EVERY GOVT be a minority govt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Israelis manage to make proportional representation work for them because THEY ARE UNDER SIEGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Israelis have no choice but to cut through the bullsh+t and resolve issues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So that Muslims will NOT drive the Jews into the sea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Neither Italy OR CANADA have such motivation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!



New Zealand TRIED proportional representation ......................................


AND WENT BACK to first past the post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Because of the political CHAOS and stagnation proportional representation brings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



There are two kinds of people who see advantage in proportional representation.................................... ..



those who see an opportunity for THEMSELVES as the political system opens up to accept the lunatic fringe............................


and those - mainly LIE-berals WHO LIKE THE IDEA of turning our Parliament into an OUT OF CONTROL spending machine..........


with NO OFF SWITCH because organizing so many lunatic parties and huge political egos...................................


is WORSE THAN HERDING CATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
+2
#311
Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

It wouldn't really matter because the vote would still be stacked in favour of Ontariowe and Quebec.
 
Cannuck
No Party Affiliation
#312
Poor Trumpite really hates democracy
 
Hoid
#313
Trudeau presser just starting.
 
Hoid
#314
The liberals intend to continue with the Trans Mountain Expansion.
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
#315
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

The liberals intend to continue with the Trans Mountain Expansion.

GOt a link? NOt going to happen if they have to depend on the dippers to prop up their shaky government.
 
mentalfloss
#316
Quote: Originally Posted by Walter View Post

Prog shit.

I love coming back to this forum and seeing you more salty than ever.

May that ignorance and bitterness carry you gracefully to the end.
 
mentalfloss
#317
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

GOt a link? NOt going to happen if they have to depend on the dippers to prop up their shaky government.

The grapes are indeed sour lol
 
taxslave
Free Thinker
#318
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

The grapes are indeed sour lol

trudOWE couldn't even manage to pull off something so simple as legalizing weed without numerous major fukkups. Do you really think he can get a pipeline built? Maybe if he gives TM to the native bands along the route and gets out of the way.
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#319
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post

I love coming back to this forum and seeing you more salty than ever.

As Donny Dodger provides increasing evidence of his incompetence and corruption, Walter retreats further and further. . .
 
Curious Cdn
Conservative
#320
Quote: Originally Posted by Tecumsehsbones View Post

As Donny Dodger provides increasing evidence of his incompetence and corruption, Walter retreats further and further. . .

Prog shit



(I'm filling in for 25¢ per post ... as long as it doesn't exceed two syllables.)
 
spaminator
#321
MANDEL: Ousted Liberal Jane Philpott fails to win as independent
Michele Mandel
Published:
October 22, 2019
Updated:
October 22, 2019 9:47 AM EDT
Jane Phllpott addresses supporters after losing as an independent candidate in the Markham-Stouffville riding on Monday October 21, 2019. Veronica Henri/Toronto Sun
STOUFFVILLE, Ont. — If this federal election were a morality tale with a happy ending, ousted Jane Philpott should have won as an independent after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau kicked her out for daring to stand up against his shameful handling of the SNC-Lavalin scandal.
Alas, this election was no fairytale and occupying the moral high ground was no match for the forces of party politics.
“Oh no, third,” were the cries as the first results were broadcast on the big screen at the 19 on the Park theatre. Liberal candidate Helena Jaczek won the riding with 24,743 votes. Conservative Theodore Antony was second at 19,750 votes and Philpott came in third with 13,216 votes.
Philpott made headlines when she bravely followed colleague Jody Wilson-Raybould in resigning from the Liberal cabinet over Trudeau’s interference with the decision to prosecute the Quebec-based engineering firm.
In return, the PM kicked both out of caucus.
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Despite being courted by the NDP and the Greens, the women decided to pursue the risky route of running as independents.
It’s virtually impossible to win a seat without the backing of a political party — an independent hasn’t won a federal election since 2008. Philpott, though, had several advantages over any ordinary solo candidate: She’s well known in this riding north of Toronto, not only from recent headlines, but also as a former Liberal star who served as treasury board president as well as from her past career as a family doctor.
Without access to party coffers and their fundraising machines, independents face an uphill battle. But like Wilson-Raybould, Philpott easily managed to surpass her fundraising goal.
She just couldn’t convince voters that she could do enough for them without party backing.
Knocking on doors, Philpott played up her non-partisan freedom — no leader could now tell her what to say or what to do. “When I became an independent MP, I didn’t lose my voice. I found my voice. I can speak freely on behalf of the people of Markham-Stouffville,” she wrote on her blog.
“Some political pundits note that independent candidates rarely get elected in Canada. Other sceptics say that if by some chance independent MPs are elected, they will be powerless. Those naysayers lack imagination.”
Her slogan was “Colour outside the party lines.”
It was bold. It was different. It just wasn’t enough.
In 2015, Philpott only narrowly won her seat over the Conservative challenger. This time, her former party was so worried about her newfound notoriety, they chose Helena Jaczek to run against her — not only a woman Philpott considered a friend, but someone with a similar high profile resume. Jaczek is also a doctor and former Ontario Liberal health minister.
Philpott’s bid was always a longshot and unfortunately, her integrity and honesty weren’t as valuable commodities as party affiliation.
“There can be a cost to acting on one’s principles,” the daughter of a Presbyterian minister wrote in her March resignation letter, “but there is a bigger cost to abandoning them.”
Even if that means she no longer represents Markham-Stouffville in the next Parliament.
mmandel@postmedia.com
http://torontosun.com/news/local-new...as-independent
 
spaminator
#322
'STRONG VOICES MATTER': Jody Wilson-Raybould wins as Independent
Canadian Press
Published:
October 22, 2019
Updated:
October 22, 2019 9:08 AM EDT
Independent candidate Jody Wilson-Raybould celebrates her election win in Vancouver, B.C. on Monday, October 21, 2019. JIMMY JEONG / THE CANADIAN PRESS
VANCOUVER — Former Liberal cabinet minister Jody Wilson-Raybould says her victory as an Independent candidate sends a message to Ottawa about the need for change in the country’s politics.
Wilson-Raybould will be the only Independent in the House of Commons after she was ousted from the Liberal party over the SNC-Lavalin scandal.
“We accomplished showing Ottawa, showing our political process, that independent, strong voices matter and that we can do politics differently,” she said to roars of applause in her victory speech.
Wilson-Raybould said she’ll use her Vancouver Granville seat to fight for better climate change policy, electoral reform and “true reconciliation” with Indigenous Peoples.
The federal campaign was plagued by divisive politics but Vancouver Granville voters have shown there’s a different way, she said.
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“That is not the type of politics we need to address these issues. We need to collaborate, we need to come together, we need to, again, work across party lines to address these big issues and I know that we can do it.”
Wilson-Raybould quit Justin Trudeau’s cabinet after she accused the prime minister and his office of inappropriately pressuring her as the attorney general to intervene in the criminal prosecution of Quebec engineering giant SNC-Lavalin on corruption charges.
Wilson-Raybould’s decision to leave cabinet was followed by her colleague Jane Philpott, who failed in her attempt to win as an Independent in the Ontario riding of Markham-Stouffville. The two politicians supported one another at events throughout the campaign.
Trudeau eventually kicked both women out of the Liberal caucus and many of their supporters saw it as vindication when the federal ethics commissioner concluded that Trudeau violated the Conflict of Interest Act by improperly pressuring Wilson-Raybould to stop the prosecution of SNC-Lavalin.
After trailing in early results, dozens of supporters erupted in cheers when Wilson-Raybould pulled into first place ahead of her closest challengers, Conservative Zach Segal and Liberal Taleeb Noormohamed.
They chanted “Jody! Jody!” each time more results came in, solidifying her position after what was initially a tight three-way race.
“That was a nail-biter, yes?” Wilson-Raybould said after taking the stage.
Campaign volunteers said they weren’t surprised it was close.
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Jennifer Canas said she heard some hesitation from voters when door knocking during the campaign.
“People would ask about, ‘Well, you know, she’s an Independent.’ I would say, ‘Well, you know, she has a powerful voice,’ ” she said. “And they listened. It worked.”
But in Markham-Stouffville, the reality of running as an Independent proved a tougher hill to climb for Philpott.
Wilson-Raybould paid tribute to Philpott.
“I know that Parliament will be lesser without her presence, but I know that Dr. Jane Philpott will go on to continue to do extraordinary things,” she said.
Wilson-Raybould won her seat in Vancouver handily for the Liberals in 2015.
She pledged throughout this campaign to do politics differently through a non-partisan approach, a message that was backed by the support of Green Leader Elizabeth May at a rally in September.
Wilson-Raybould became a star candidate for the Liberals in their 2015 bid for power after serving as a B.C. regional chief of the Assembly of First Nations.
Entering the race this time, she had the advantage of a significantly larger profile than her challengers. But her campaign team was challenged with persuading voters that she would be an effective MP as an Independent without the same privileges in the House of Commons as the member of a major party.
Noormohamed tried to seize on that vulnerability in his bid to take the seat for the Liberals, saying in an interview during the campaign that voters in Vancouver Granville should have a voice in government.
http://torontosun.com/news/national/...as-independent
 
spaminator
#323
Controversial Conservative MP Leona Alleslev retains seat
Aidan Wallace
Published:
October 22, 2019
Updated:
October 22, 2019 9:52 AM EDT
Leona Alleslev at her campaign office on October 10, 2019. Veronica Henri/Toronto Sun
Controversial Conservative MP Leona Alleslev won the riding of Aurora-Oak Ridges-Richmond Hill.
Alleslev, who crossed the floor of Parliament in September 2018 to sit with Andrew Scheer’s Conservatives, was in a tight race the whole night against Liberal candidate Leah Taylor Roy.
With more than three-quarters of polls reporting in, Alleslev had won 45.3% of votes while Roy had 41.8%.
The remaining votes went to Aaron Brown, NDP, with 6.9%, Timothy Flemming, Green Party, with 4.0%, Priya Patil, People’s Party, with 1.0%, and Serge Korovitsyn, Libertarian Party, with 1.0%.
Alleslev joined the Conservatives after three years as a Liberal MP, saying at the time the Federal Liberals answered her concerns about the handling of key issues with “silence”.
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Speaking with the Toronto Sun, Alleslev said her decision was supported by her constituents.
“The citizens of AORRH have repeatedly said that my decisions to change political parties and honour my commitment to them is why they chose to once again entrust me with the responsibility to serve as their federal representative,” she said.
Roy told the Sun in her experience, constituents said they felt “betrayed” by Alleslev’s decision to change parties, saying she could “guarantee” she would never cross the floor.
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http://torontosun.com/news/national/...kes-early-lead
 
spaminator
+1
#324
BONOKOSKI: If Trudeau had learned a lesson, it totally escaped him
Mark Bonokoski
Published:
October 22, 2019
Updated:
October 22, 2019 1:48 PM EDT
So, after 40 days and 40 nights of raining the cat calls and dog whistles that led to a minority Liberal government, Canadians who stayed up into the early hours to listen to Justin Trudeau’s speech heard not one word of humility.
It was not expected, of course, but it was hoped.
His party had lost its majority. For the first time in history, his party won governance but lost the popular vote. Fewer Canadians went to the polls than in his 2015 coronation.
But Trudeau was still self-worshipping.
His opening line set the tone.
“From coast to coast, tonight, Canadians rejected division and negativity,” he said. “They rejected cuts and austerity, and they voted in favour of a progressive agenda and strong action on climate change.
“I have heard you, my friends. You are sending our Liberal team back to work; back to Ottawa with a clear mandate.”
A rejection of “division and negativity?” A “clear mandate?”
The man is clearly delusional.
And he knows nothing about learning a lesson.
Saskatchewan and Alberta are now a sea of blue, with the defeat of Ralph Goodale in Saskatchewan removing from Trudeau’s cabinet the only one with the maturity to wear the long pants.
If that’s not division, what is? There are now three distinct Canadas — the Prairies, Quebec and the Rest.
In the far-off riding of Vancouver Granville, the woman who ran as an Independent because Trudeau had bounced her from her high-profile cabinet post (and then from the Liberal party) for refusing to roll over like a lap dog and give SNC-Lavalin a get-out-of-criminal-prosecution card when she was attorney general and justice minister, was judiciously re-elected as a comeuppance to Trudeau for challenging her deep-seated principles.
Jody Wilson-Raybould, the first indigenous woman to hold such a lofty cabinet post, was catapulted to national stardom after she testified in the spring that she faced a campaign of inappropriate pressure from Trudeau and 10 of his most senior henchmen to offer a deferred prosecution agreement to SNC-Lavalin, a Quebec mega-firm charged with international corruption.
Remember Trudeau’s lie — that the Globe and Mail story that opened the floodgates to the scandal was totally bogus?
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Well, for a supposedly fictional news story, it rained hell on the Liberals, had his chief adviser Gerald Butts resigning from the PMO, had former Treasury Board president Jane Philpott also getting the boot from the party for backing Wilson-Raybould, and earned Trudeau his second slap to the head for breaching ethics.
If there were any justice in politics, Philpott would have been re-elected as an Independent in Markham-Stouffville, but she wasn’t.
As she wrote in her letter of resignation from Trudeau’s former cabinet, “There can be a cost to acting on one’s principles, but there is a bigger cost to abandoning them.”
Listening to Trudeau deliver his victory speech, however, he projected nothing that was principled, and had no sense of being chastised by the electorate, as if losing 21 seats and seeing the Bloc Quebecois tripling its seat count in his own province was of little or no consequence.
To him, avoiding the embarrassment of being a one-term prime minister erased any silly notion he might have had to be humble.
He had escaped a litany of broken promises during his first four years, including his love of blackface, the ‘Kokanee Grope’, his faux fight of climate change, his weak professing of indigenous love, and more than his share of scandals.
Humility is a trait foreign to his shallow soul.
He is privileged, after all, lest anyone forget.
markbonokoski@gmail.com
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gw_voVx1hbg
http://torontosun.com/opinion/column...ly-escaped-him
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
+1
#325
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave View Post

GOt a link? NOt going to happen if they have to depend on the dippers to prop up their shaky government.

If the vote was on Trans-Mountain or Energy-East or any other pipeline....I think I know where Justin can count on 121 MP votes in favor of a pipeline. Only 1/2 of Justin's liberals would have to vote in favour of the pipeline they purchased with Conservative backing for 200/338 votes in Parliament. Same with a vote on an Energy Corridor across Canada as long as it isn't an odoriferous omnibus bill. No support from the Bloc or NDP or Greens or even 1/2 of the Liberal Seats needed. He could have a real legacy of nation building in Canada's best interests beyond being a fake feminist in blackface sucking on UN dick.
 
spaminator
#326
LILLEY: Advice for the Conservatives and their leader
Brian Lilley
Published:
October 22, 2019
Updated:
October 22, 2019 8:32 PM EDT
Conservative leader Andrew Scheer speaks at a news conference the day after he lost the federal election to Justin Trudeau in Regina, Oct. 22, 2019. (REUTERS/Todd Korol)
While Andrew Scheer is saying that he will stay on as leader of the Conservative Party, the question is whether his MPs and party faithful will let him. It will take some time to figure out the future of the Conservative leader but there are already rumblings.
Some candidates, such as Richard Martel, have been critical.
“It’s not the best campaign he’s done,” Martel told local media of Scheer’s effort in the national campaign.
As far as criticism goes, that’s pretty mild. It’s also an understatement.
It’s true that Scheer was up against a candidate who is part of Laurentian Elite royalty, who was literally born living at 24 Sussex and who most pundits, myself included, thought was a shoo-in for a second majority. So that Scheer held Trudeau to a minority, increased the Conservative seat count and won the popular vote speaks well of him and the campaign the party ran.
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That he didn’t win, though, is a problem. Gone are the days when party leaders hang around for two or three elections before getting turfed for not winning power.
Scheer had Trudeau at his weakest and couldn’t beat him. This was a PM found guilty of breaking the ethics laws twice, a man who was exposed during the campaign as a fan of wearing blackface and who had faced scandal after scandal over the past two years.
That Scheer couldn’t beat Trudeau this time is a problem.
Whether Scheer stays or goes will be up to party members and the leadership review that the party constitution calls for. In the meantime, the best I can do is offer some friendly advice for Scheer, or another leader come the next campaign.
Give up on the myth that a more moderate leader is the path to success. I’m not saying that the leader of the Conservative Party has to be a fire-breathing dragon from the far right, but this idea that the party just needs to elect a moderate to easily win simply is not true. Ontario Premier Doug Ford is not a social conservative in the least; Ford isn’t actually all that conservative, period.
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Yet for having the PC name attached to him, the media and his opponents regularly portray Ford as something he’s not. Had Rona Ambrose or Peter MacKay been leader of the Conservative Party this election, not much would have changed — the claims of hidden agenda would have persisted.
That said, own your issues. A big problem for Scheer was giving a straight answer on a number of fronts. On abortion, he should have said right from the start that like Justin Trudeau he was opposed to abortion but would not change the law. Instead, he gave the impression on this issue and others that he was uncomfortable answering and therefore hiding something.
The media are not friends with the Conservatives. I know most newspapers, including this one, endorsed the Conservatives but that is the owner’s point of view. Nearly 20 years of working in this business right across the country have shown me that most reporters, the ones doing the daily stories, are instinctually Liberal. It’s how they think, it is how they view the world, it is why they will always be tougher on Conservative proposals than Liberal ones.
Issues that media folks will automatically call controversial are often not controversial with the public. The media and the voting public are not the same, woo voters, not the media.
Speaking of wooing, while the Conservatives did very well in Western Canada, they were virtually shut out in the Toronto area. If you can’t win in the area with the most seats in the country, then you can’t form a government. Either change policies or do a better job of explaining them to voters.
The Conservatives have weakened the Trudeau Liberals this time. They will get a rest before the next campaign at which point, whoever is leading them, must simply do better.
http://torontosun.com/opinion/column...d-their-leader
 
spaminator
#327
Elections Canada can't keep track of baloney ballots?
Liz Braun
Published:
October 23, 2019
Updated:
October 23, 2019 4:09 PM EDT
A sign directs voters to a polling station for the federal election in Toronto, Ontario, Canada October 21, 2019. Chris Helgren / Reuters
A story in Blacklock’s Reporter claims that Elections Canada doesn’t really know how many non-citizens are voting in Canada’s elections.
Just how many people were incorrectly or illegally on voting lists for last Monday’s federal election is, apparently, a mystery.
The story says chief Electoral Officer Stephane Perrault told reporters in September that the agency would “clean up the list” after 112,000 non-citizens on the National Register of Electors had been identified.
Elections Canada says it has already begun ferreting out the fakes.
Said Perrault, “We have used Immigration Canada data to verify whether people who are on the Register are indeed Canadian citizens. We’ve written to over 100,000. We have received confirmation from several thousands of them, that they are Canadian citizens, and we have removed approximately 75,000 who did not respond either because they are not citizens or simply neglected to respond.”
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MALCOLM: Asylum seeker not eligible to vote receives voter registration card
LILLEY: Thousands of Canadian voter cards sent to dead, non-citizens
That figure of nearly 75,000 names scratched from voters lists before Monday has been confirmed by Elections Canada, but nobody seems to know how many more names are still on the National Register of Electors.
This is according to an internal memo at Elections Canada, Blacklock’s Reporter claims.
It is also claimed that the Office of the Commissioner of Elections confirmed 57 instances of people who were not Canadian citizens voting in the 2015 federal election.
As there was no reasonable prospect of conviction, no action was taken.
There were several ridings in the 2015 election where results were decided by fewer than 500 votes, and some where fewer than 100 won the day.
Those include Elmwood Transcona, Man. (by 61 votes); Desnethe-Missinippi, Sask. (82 votes); Barrie-Springwater, Ont. (85 votes); and Edmonton Mill Woods (92 votes.)
http://blacklocks.ca/didnt-count-illegal-voters
http://torontosun.com/news/local-new...aloney-ballots
 
spaminator
#328
'BECAUSE IT WORKS': Raising voter fears helped Trudeau to victory in Canada
Reuters
Published:
October 23, 2019
Updated:
October 23, 2019 8:17 AM EDT
Liberal leader and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his wife Sophie Gregoire Trudeau wave on stage after the federal election at the Palais des Congres in Montreal, Quebec, Canada October 22, 2019. Carlo Allegri / REUTERS
OTTAWA — Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau pulled off a second consecutive election win on Monday with a late change in tactics designed to scare progressive voters who showed signs of abandoning Liberal candidates, four Liberal campaign sources said.
As polls indicated he could lose, Trudeau ditched his “sunny ways” persona that had swept him to power in 2015 and started hammering away at three smaller parties on the left, warning their supporters that if they didn’t vote Liberal, the progressive vote would splinter and allow the opposition Conservatives to take power.
During the last two weeks of the campaign, Trudeau repeatedly told supporters that voting for the rival New Democrats, Bloc Quebecois and Greens would result in a progressive opposition, not a progressive government.
“We’re doing this because it works,” one Liberal official said of the strategy as the campaign reached its climax last week. He and the three other Liberal aides and strategists in this story declined to be named because they were not authorized to discuss campaign strategy.
Rival parties lately complained about what they saw as fear-mongering by Trudeau, who won a healthy minority and should be safe for the next two years.
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“The Liberals like to talk progressive, but they govern conservative,” Jagmeet Singh, leader of the New Democrats, said on Oct 15. “I want people to dream big. Don’t settle for less.”
Former Liberal prime minister Paul Martin used the same fear-inspiring technique in the last week of 2004 election, during which he managed to fight off a challenge from the Conservatives.
“It’s absolutely a legitimate strategy by people who want to drive votes towards them based on fear of the worst result,” said Tim Murphy, who was Martin’s chief of staff at the time.
Former Liberal deputy prime minister John Manley said Monday’s results in the populous province of Ontario, where the party held onto virtually all of its seats, showed the tactic had worked.
Support for the New Democrats, seen as a major left-leaning challenger in some seats, fell markedly in the last few days, allowing Trudeau to stay in power, he noted.
“You’d rather people voted enthusiastically for you rather than against someone else, but at the end of the day, who won?” Manley said in a phone interview.
Neither the Liberal nor Conservative campaign spokespeople were immediately available for comment.
The victory was all the more remarkable because Liberal campaign officials had heard from the first day about deep dissatisfaction with Trudeau from long-time supporters.
Trudeau came into the campaign trying to shake off the effects of an ethics scandal and ran into further problems when photos emerged of him wearing black face.
“Some people are telling me ‘Normally I would vote for you, but a vote for you is a vote for (Trudeau) and I’m not voting for him come hell or high water’,” said one Liberal legislator who declined to be named.
Liberal parliamentarians and strategists described what they saw as a poorly-run campaign that did not focus nearly enough on the party’s economic successes and spent too much time talking about progressive issues.
“The thing that has absolutely frustrated me the most is that the economy has really been smoking … and he has not sung that song,” said the Liberal legislator.
The party presented proposals designed to appeal to voter-rich inner cities, such as a clamp-down on gun violence and a proposal to cut cell phone bills. The polls did not move, much to the consternation of Trudeau officials.
A senior Liberal campaign official said the shift in strategy to a less sunny tone was designed to underscore how different Trudeau’s policies were from those of the Conservatives, especially since the parties were locked in the polls.
“We knew we first had to establish a plan … and then be able to say, ‘These are the things that we want to be able to do, vote for your values, but vote for your values in a way that turns it into action,” the official said.
Unlike 2015, when the Liberals had a year to get ready for the election, two of the Liberal campaign officials said, preparations this time were delayed by months as the party struggled with the pressures of governing and the after-effects of the ethics scandal.
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Canada’s independent ethics watchdog found Trudeau had violated ethics rules when he tried to push his former justice minister and attorney general to drop criminal charges against a Quebec engineering company.
The scandal – which cut the Liberals’ popularity ahead of the election – also temporarily cost Trudeau the services of close aide and key strategist Gerald Butts, who resigned in February but returned in July.
He was not present as Trudeau’s inner team started lengthy debates over what the main planks of the platform should be.
In the end, the Liberals chose a mixture of proposals designed to build upon advances made since 2015 while adding promises for big-ticket items such as expanding a program to provide coverage for the cost of prescription drugs.
In the last election, Trudeau attracted millions of new voters including women, young people, aboriginals and environmentalists.
Since then, however, Trudeau had alienated various parts of this coalition by ditching plans for electoral reform, forcing two prominent female former ministers out of caucus over the ethics scandal and buying a crude oil pipeline opposed by environmentalists.
http://torontosun.com/news/national/...tory-in-canada
 
spilledthebeer
#329
Quote: Originally Posted by Hoid View Post

The end is nigh

The NDP will be able to press the Liberals on this now.




IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!


The LIE-berals INTEND TO SIT ON THEIR ASSES for the next four years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


YES - just collecting their GRAVY and going through the motions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Deficits and the DEBT WALL??????????????????



LIE-berals say deficits balance themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THUS NO NEED to worry about money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AFFORDABLE HOUSING??????????????????????


As LIE-berals HAVE ALREADY DEMONSTRATED when they had a FOUR YEAR LONG MAJORITY............................


they had NO MONEY for stuff like that and they certainly DONT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Public transit????????????????????????


Why would LIE-berals help out with public transit IN EITHER Ontari-owe or B.C.??????????????????????????????


Neither province is friendly to LIE-berals???????????????????????


And yes Toronto HOGTOWN is SOLID LIE-beral................................


but the HOGS have already SOLD THEMSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If they shun Our idiot Boy then they are left ALONE to deal with Ford!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There will be NO SPECIAL DEAL for desperate Hogtown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Changes to federal transfer payments to provinces??????????????????


LIE-berals NEED ALL THEIR GRAVY to win back Quebec!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Bloc Quebecois DID TOO WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MORE Quebec LIE-beral BRIBERY IS CLEARLY NEEDED to SAVE LIE-beral bacon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Kinder Morgan pipeline???????????????????????


It is "IN NEGOTIATIONS"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND WILL REMAIN SO AS A BARGAINING CHIP FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!


UNLESS LIE-berals get DESPERATE ENOUGH to make some deal or other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Immigration and illegals??????????????????????


LIE-berals now have ONLY A MINORITY GOVT and thus .........................................



LIE-berals have MADE IT CLEAR THEY NEED MORE voters who can be BOUGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And homeless welfare recipients - who would not even be allowed into the country..............................


without LIE-beral sponsorship are the CHEAPEST TO BUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The lack of education and language skills of illegals means.....................................


they WILL SELL THEIR VOTES FOR A LIFETIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



In exchange for that LIE-beral gravy they cannot survive without!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The crime wave overtaking Canada?????????????????


LIE-berals have already told us "WE CANNOT ARREST OUR WAY OUT OF THIS PROBLEM"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And LIE-berals HAD FOIUR YEARS of majority govt to take some sensible action...............................



and LIE-berals FAILED UTTERLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !


And of course actually JAILING criminals costs to much gravy for LIE-beral comfort!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What about all the data breaches and assorted FRAUD artists preying on Cdns???????????????????


LIE-berals have let us know they believe property crime...........................................


IS LESS SIGNIFICANT than physical violence.............................


and so they are even LESS FOCUSED on FRAUD than criminal violence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What WE CAN BE ASSURED OF...................................


IS HIGHER CARBON TAXES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are very excited about carbon tax SCAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And NDPees like carbon tax SCAMS as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So the ONLY AREA where there will be cooperation is with carbon SCAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals want MORE CARBON GRAVY to buy votes from civil service union HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And NDPees will support the carbon crap in exchange for a CUT of the gravy........................


to get funding for NDPee pet projects....................................


like catering to rug addicts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What of the catastrophe that is life on a typical native reserve????????????????????????


LIE-berals HAD A MAJORITY GOVT AND DID NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals did nothing for natives for 4 years..............................


other than to change our jury election process to make it easier to EXCUSE...............................


DRUNKEN IDIOT THIEVES like Colton Boushie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The DO NOTHING BRIGADE is firmly in control in Ottawa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
spaminator
#330
LEVY: Federally funded guide tells Muslims how to vote
Sue-Ann Levy
Published:
October 25, 2019
Updated:
October 25, 2019 7:47 PM EDT
Canadian Muslim Voting Guide
A federally funded Canadian Muslim Voting Guide — released three days before the Oct. 21 election — gives Conservative leader Andrew Scheer a series of failing grades for apparently associating with far-right, Islamophobic figures, opposing the M-103 motion and the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement, and for proposing immigration policies that “compromise asylum seekers.”
The highly partisan, anti-Zionist guide — produced by the Canadian Islamophobia Industry Research Project out of Wilfrid Laurier University — contends that newly re-elected Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been the “target of Islamophobic hate campaigns” and gives him a free pass for his black face antics because of his public stance against Islamophobia.
The 34-page guide was put together by Jasmin Zine, a professor of sociology and Muslim studies, as well as graduate students Fatima Chakroun and Shifa Abbas.
The guide’s cover states quite clearly that it was supported by a grant from Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada. According to the SSHRC website, Zine, in conjunction with National Council of Canadian Muslims, got a $24,923 Partnership Engage grant in September of last year to map the Canadian Islamophobia Industry.
According to her own biography she has developed “award winning curriculum materials that address Islamophobia and anti-Muslim racism” and has published numerous journal articles on Islamic feminism.
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She also received an $80,339 SSHRC grant in 2009 to study Canadian Muslim youth post 9/11.
Attempts to reach Zine were unsuccessful.
However her guide states that it is not just a resource for Canadian Muslims but for anyone interested in “political decision making that will affect the future” of Canada.
“Islamophobia is on the rise in Canada and political speech can fuel or quell it,” said Zine in an Oct. 18 press release. “We’ve examined party leaders’ stances based on their public statements and voting records to help Canadian Muslims, and anyone interested in the issues we’ve identified, decide how to vote in the Monday, Oct. 21 federal election.”
The guide scores Trudeau, Scheer, Jagmeet Singh, Elizabeth May and Maxime Bernier in five key areas. These include ties to alt-right groups and Islamophobia; support of M-103 (the federal anti-Islamophobia motion); religious freedom in Quebec; immigration/refugees; support of BDS and foreign policy.
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Not surprisingly Bernier gets a resounding fail on every issue and is described in the guide as having “little concern for the plight of oppressed people around the world,” a supporter of individuals with blatantly Islamophobic and anti-Muslim views and engaged in policies that are “blatantly xenophobic, Islamophobic” and reinforce “white nationalism.”
NDP leader Singh gets a pass in every area except on religious freedom in Quebec and on the BDS movement.
Singh and the Green Party’s Elizabeth May are the only leaders to get a “needs improvement” on the latter issue — both for not clearly aligning with the BDS movement.
Trudeau received a fail for apparently claiming that supporting the BDS Movement is “anti-Semitic.”
“This rejection turns a blind eye to the suffering of Palestinians,” the report says, noting that the “Palestine-Israel conflict remains an important subject for Muslim communities in Canada.”
Conservative senator Linda Frum said as disturbing as it is to see academics using Jew-hatred as a “useful metric” on how to assess a political party, what is worse is that the Liberal government paid for this “hateful propaganda.
“This is a clear violation of parliamentary ethics, election law, not to mention simple decency,” she said Friday.
B’nai Brith Canada CEO Michael Mostyn called it “totally unacceptable” that government funds were used to promote an anti-Semitic movement in Canada.
“It is (also) deeply troubling that taxpayer dollars were used to subsidize a document ‘guiding’ Canadians on whom to support in an election,” he said.
Late Friday, the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs (CIJA) issued a statement saying SSHRC has launched an investigation into what appears to be “an unapproved use of funds” allocated for a different purpose.
SLevy@postmedia.com

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http://torontosun.com/news/local-new...ms-how-to-vote
 

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