Wondering Why


justsayin
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Wondering why Bloc Quebecios is a national party when it represents only one province
 
YukonJack
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#2  Top Rated Post
Blind political correctness.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by justsayin View Post

Wondering why Bloc Quebecios is a national party when it represents only one province

Because they have a right to exist under our constitution. If they ran a candidate in my riding, I might vote for them. They are the only honest bunch in the lot.
 
Unforgiven
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Quote: Originally Posted by justsayin View Post

Wondering why Bloc Quebecios is a national party when it represents only one province

They have enough votes from Quebec to survive as a national party. Simple stuff really.
 
#juan
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Quote: Originally Posted by justsayin View Post

Wondering why Bloc Quebecios is a national party when it represents only one province

Don't be saying this too loud. We don't want the separatists to get hurt feelings. This is part of the BS we put ourselves through
to appease separatists. They shouldn't be allowed to run in a federal election but again we make allowances. Why? I have no idea.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juan View Post

Don't be saying this too loud. We don't want the separatists to get hurt feelings. This is part of the BS we put ourselves through
to appease separatists. They shouldn't be allowed to run in a federal election but again we make allowances. Why? I have no idea.

Because, whether we like it or not, they are still Canadians and Quebecois have a right to be represented by who they want.
 
#juan
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Because, whether we like it or not, they are still Canadians and Quebecois have a right to be represented by who they want.

As far as I'm concerned, separatists are guilty of sedition. They are trying to break up the country. The rights of Quebecers
are not in question but like most people in Canada I'm getting sick of all the whining from the bloc heads.
 
wulfie68
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Quote: Originally Posted by #juan View Post

As far as I'm concerned, separatists are guilty of sedition. They are trying to break up the country. The rights of Quebecers are not in question but like most people in Canada I'm getting sick of all the whining from the bloc heads.

I agree with you in principle about the aims of the Bloc but the fact remains that they could run as independents and still maintain a seperatist agenda, because you do not have to be part of a party to seek election or be elected. I support the idea of independent MPs (I wish there were more to represent their constituents wishes (as Chuck Cadman did for example when he voted to uphold Paul Martin's gov't) rather than a party line that most constituents may/do not support) thus I cannot deny the right of the Bloc to exist as a political entity, just as I cannot deny other fringe groups that right, whether they be Christian Heritage, Marxist-Lenninist or Rhino parties.
 
petros
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They are already seperate just like all the other provinces are seperate.
 
Corduroy
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Who says the BQ is a natioanl party? They were once Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition but is there an official designation of "national" party?
 
petros
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Nope. A party or independent can run anywhere in Canada whether single seat of a Bloc of them.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Because, whether we like it or not, they are still Canadians and Quebecois have a right to be represented by who they want.

I absolutely agree with you Cliff........................in the provincial legislature in Quebec City.
 
Corduroy
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

Nope. A party or independent can run anywhere in Canada whether single seat of a Bloc of them.

But they are nationalist party. They just got the wrong nation. That's some consolation.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

They are already seperate just like all the other provinces are seperate.

Canada is a confederation of independent provinces. The whole sovereignty issue is a smoke screen. The federal government exists to represent those sovereign provinces in international affairs and to bring some cohesion between the provinces. They seem to be failing in the latter case.
 
Bar Sinister
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It is not a national party. It is a nationalist party that represents Quebec voters in the federal government.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister View Post

It is not a national party. It is a nationalist party that represents Quebec voters in the federal government.

But it shouldn't be that way.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLM View Post

But it shouldn't be that way.

How much different was the reform Party from the Bloq? They were a western regional party dedicated to bringing the wests concerns to Ottawa. They hijacked the PC party and now they run the government under Harper. I really don't see much difference.
 
Colpy
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

How much different was the reform Party from the Bloq? They were a western regional party dedicated to bringing the wests concerns to Ottawa. They hijacked the PC party and now they run the government under Harper. I really don't see much difference.

Ahhh...I voted Reform....in Saint John, NB.

Reform ran across the nation. And eventually won seats in much of the nation. And now the Conservative Party is the ONLY party that represents all parts of Canada.

That said, the people of Quebec have every right to elect whomever they please, from whatever party they wish to call themselves.

we just don't have to encourage them
 
PoliticalNick
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Why the heck are we all so concerned with stopping separation. Let them go and take their share of the national debt with them.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick View Post

Why the heck are we all so concerned with stopping separation. Let them go and take their share of the national debt with them.

It might create a logistical problem connecting eastern and western Canada. But that is mute.

It is not feasible for Quebec to separate. They would lose the northern half of the province to the indigenous peoples who do not want to leave Canada and thus lose a vast part of the resources they need to survive. They would be broke within a few months and would be begging to come back. The whole sovereignty issue is a smoke screen. They are a sovereign province just like all the rest. But the ruling elite like to use issues that create emotional mayhem to provoke insecurity among Canadians because insecure people are so much easier to manipulate. Logic flies out the window and people are incapable in seeing what is really going on. It is all a distraction so you don't see that your about to be buggered once again. Whenever the separatist thing rears its ugly head, it is time to stock up on Vaseline because the government (doesn't matter which one) just got in a new supply of Viagra.
 
PoliticalNick
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You still haven't given me, a westerner, a good reason to keep them. They can take the atlantic provinces too.

I know they would never get the votes to actually separate un;ess they let the rest of us vote, but I can always hold hope.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by PoliticalNick View Post

You still haven't given me, a westerner, a good reason to keep them. They can take the atlantic provinces too.

I know they would never get the votes to actually separate un;ess they let the rest of us vote, but I can always hold hope.

Ah, you have never been with a French woman. After you have had a french lover, all others make you feel like a necrophiliac.

(let the fallout begin)
 
wotaworry
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Ah, you have never been with a French woman. After you have had a french lover, all others make you feel like a necrophiliac.

(let the fallout begin)

Rubbish. Let them separate Then the first nation can separate from them.Leaving them with approximately enough land to plant the odd potato. I Like IT!!
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Ah, you have never been with a French woman. After you have had a french lover, all others make you feel like a necrophiliac.

(let the fallout begin)

Not all of us like women with thicker mustaches than we have. LOL

Quote: Originally Posted by wotaworry View Post

Rubbish. Let them separate Then the first nation can separate from them.Leaving them with approximately enough land to plant the odd potato. I Like IT!!

They would have to form a committee first and then apply for a government grant before they could even plow the garden.
 
eh1eh
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Quote: Originally Posted by justsayin View Post

Wondering why Bloc Quebecios is a national party when it represents only one province

Ya. they're not really of course. We just let them say that just the same way we let them speak french and give them more money per capita than the other provinces. It's kind of expensive but it's kept us in the top ten least stupid countries list at least.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

How much different was the reform Party from the Bloq? They were a western regional party dedicated to bringing the wests concerns to Ottawa. They hijacked the PC party and now they run the government under Harper. I really don't see much difference.

Good point there Cliff.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by petros View Post

They are already seperate just like all the other provinces are seperate.

They are a "nation" according to some. Try as I might, I can't seem to find anybody that can give me a clear definition as to what that means.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

How much different was the reform Party from the Bloq? They were a western regional party dedicated to bringing the wests concerns to Ottawa. They hijacked the PC party and now they run the government under Harper. I really don't see much difference.

Aside from what Colpy said, the Reform Party was also not interested in breaking up the country.
 
TenPenny
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Quote: Originally Posted by justsayin View Post

Wondering why Bloc Quebecios is a national party when it represents only one province

Because there's nothing in our constitution preventing it?
 
dumpthemonarchy
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy View Post

Because, whether we like it or not, they are still Canadians and Quebecois have a right to be represented by who they want.

There are rules in any democracy and smaller parties get screwed by Elections Canada-whoforced the Rhino party out of existence. Sure Quebecers can vote for whoever they want, but there ought to be rules for federal parties. I think a federal party ought to be forced have candidates running in at least seven provinces with half of the country's population. This is constitutional formula for amending the constitution. This would stretch the BQ's resources and dilute their message.

We are a federal state, not a unitary state. A unitary state has no provinces so every party in France, Japan, Poland or Sweden is a national party because they do not have another level of government in provinces that handle important matters like health and justice.

And yeah, we have cowards for politicians too.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchy View Post

There are rules in any democracy and smaller parties get screwed by Elections Canada-whoforced the Rhino party out of existence. Sure Quebecers can vote for whoever they want, but there ought to be rules for federal parties. I think a federal party ought to be forced have candidates running in at least seven provinces with half of the country's population. This is constitutional formula for amending the constitution. This would stretch the BQ's resources and dilute their message.

We are a federal state, not a unitary state. A unitary state has no provinces so every party in France, Japan, Poland or Sweden is a national party because they do not have another level of government in provinces that handle important matters like health and justice.

And yeah, we have cowards for politicians too.

My understanding is that we are a confederation not a federation.
 

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