Rep. Peter King: Muslims aren't "American"


mentalfloss
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Rep. Peter King Says Muslims Aren’t ‘American’ When It Comes To War


Rep. Peter King (R-NY), the new chairman of the Homeland Security Committee, has promised to launch a series of investigations of Muslim Americans beginning in February. “I’ve made it clear that I’ll focus the committee on counterterrorism and hold hearings on a wide range of issues, including radicalization of the American Muslim community and homegrown terrorism,” he told Newsday. King has repeatedly said that he only wants to single out “Islamic terrorism” in his hearings on domestic security, and has even claimed that there are “too many mosques in this country.”

Joining anti-Muslim conspiracy theorist Frank Gaffney on Gaffney’s radio program last week, King doubled down on his promise to launch a witch-hunt against Muslims. He repeated a falsehood that he stated earlier — that American Muslims never cooperate to combat terrorism. But in addition to this claim, King made the extraordinary smear that American Muslims aren’t “American” when it comes to war. “[W]hen a war begins,” King said, every ethnic and religious group unites as “Americans.” “But in this case,” King continued, referring to Muslims, “this is not the situation. … Whether it’s cultural tradition, whatever, the fact is the Muslim community does not cooperate anywhere near to the extent that it should”:

GAFFNEY: It sounds like what you’re recognizing — thank God — is that within the Muslim community, even in this country, let alone elsewhere, folks are finding an environment in which on the one hand it is very easy to be radicalized if you will, to be brought to an adherence to Sharia which leads to jihad. But also, there’s an enomorous pressure on those within the community presumably I would imagine you agree from the Muslim Brotherhood which is much in place in this country to not to come forward, to not help us defeat what really is our common foe: namely the folks that would impose Sharia on all of us.

KING: Yeah, and Frank, this is very unusual for our country because despite a person’s ethnic background or religious background, when a war begins, we’re all Americans. But in this case, this is not the situation. And whether it’s pressure, whether it’s cultural tradition, whatever, the fact is the Muslim community does not cooperate anywhere near to the extent that it should. The irony is that we’re living in two different worlds. One is the real world that I find when I’m talking with police officers, talking with federal law enforcement authorities. And when I raise the question of Muslim cooperation, they look at me like ‘oh of course not, no there’s no cooperation, we don’t anticipate that.’ You know, ‘We never expect cooperation.’ They try but hardly ever get it.

As ThinkProgress’ Ben Armbruster has observed, King’s assertion that American Muslims aren’t cooperating with authorities and that Muslim organizations in the U.S. aren’t denouncing terrorism is simply false. At an event sponsored by the Center for American Progress, Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) reported that, “About a third of all foiled al-Qaida-related plots in the U.S. relied on support or information provided by members of the Muslim community.” Indeed, a Senagalese Muslim immigrant who works as a vendor in Times Square was the first to bring the smoking car that was part of the failed Times Square bombing plot to the police’s attention. And the father of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab — who failed in his attempt to blow up an airplane over Detroit last year — alerted U.S. authorities of his son’s “extreme radical views” months before he tried to carry out the attack.

Moreover, a study from Duke’s Sanford School of Public Policy and the University of North Carolina found that “many mosque leaders had put significant effort into countering extremism by building youth programs, sponsoring antiviolence forums and scrutinizing teachers and texts.” “Muslim-American communities have been active in preventing radicalization,” said study co-author David Kurzman. “This is one reason that Muslim-American terrorism has resulted in fewer than three dozen of the 136,000 murders committed in the United States since 9/11.”

ThinkProgress Rep. Peter King Says Muslims Aren’t ‘American’ When It Comes To War
 
Praxius
Free Thinker
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What a maroon:

"radicalization of the American Muslim community and homegrown terrorism"

Did he ever notice that the greater..... GREATER majority of "Homegrown Terrorism" comes from poor, white, ignorant American trash.

In regards to "Radicalization of the American Muslim" the only people doing that are people like him who constantly make all Muslims out to be the enemy, and tries to shove them all out of the country or restrict their freedoms, when they have every right to be there in the country as he does or anybody else with a different spiritual belief.

In reality though, the only "Radicalization" that exists within the US, comes from people like him and the idiots who take people like him seriously.

What I find really funny is how people like him constant try and finger point Muslims as ignorant, dumb, backwards lunatics...... perhaps he should listen to the crap that spews from his own mouth and look in the mirror once in a while, because if they really are, then he's not too far off himself.
 
karrie
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalfloss View Post


KING: Yeah, and Frank, this is very unusual for our country because despite a person’s ethnic background or religious background, when a war begins, we’re all Americans. But in this case, this is not the situation.


Since when!?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanes...can_internment
 
Cliffy
Free Thinker
#4
Shades of McCarthy's ghost. Some people can't handle power.
 
Trotz
Bloc Québécois
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Neither are Christians.

American Society used to be secular but the constant immigration had changed that. To that end, mainstream protestants (like in Canada) are an actual minority in the United States. Most Protestants in the United States belong to radicalized branches like Mennonites, Mormons, Evangelicals, Baptists, Reformed, Jehovah Witnesses; et al.

This is the reason that America had gone to hell... they took all the religious fringe nut jobs from Europe
 
BaalsTears
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What makes someone an American? Can any one answer that question?
 
Trotz
Bloc Québécois
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American Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Americans were a British people until massive immigration which had started in the 1850's. To that end; had there not been that immigration, the difference between Americans and Canadians and British would be similiar to that of the People's Republic of China and the Republic of China (Taiwan).

Different countries and different political systems but in the end the same people!

The local crack pot sociologist at the local University; with a Thai girlfriend, will disagree. However, my analysis is quite historical and correct in going with facts like the First Nations' people not being granted citizenship until 1924.

Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the United States, we also have the divisions between those of the Afro-American and Latino-American community.
 
BaalsTears
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Anwar al Awlaki was born and raised in America. He attended American public schools. He once visited the Pentagon as part of an outreach program after 9/11.

Obama's Director of Counter Terrorism recently said Awlaki was the greatest terrorist threat to the American people.

Awlaki was the mentor of Farouk Abdulmuttalab, the Nigerian Christmas time bomber. Awlaki was also the mentor of Nidal Malik Hasan, the naturalized American US Army Major who killed thirteen soldiers at Fort Hood, Texas while yelling Allahu Akbar.

Why does Anwar al Awlaki want to kill his fellow Americans?
 
Avro
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTears View Post

Anwar al Awlaki was born and raised in America. He attended American public schools. He once visited the Pentagon as part of an outreach program after 9/11.

Obama's Director of Counter Terrorism recently said Awlaki was the greatest terrorist threat to the American people.

Awlaki was the mentor of Farouk Abdulmuttalab, the Nigerian Christmas time bomber. Awlaki was also the mentor of Nidal Malik Hasan, the naturalized American US Army Major who killed thirteen soldiers at Fort Hood, Texas while yelling Allahu Akbar.

Why does Anwar al Awlaki want to kill his fellow Americans?

Same reason Tim Mcviegh did....he's nuts.
 
Trotz
Bloc Québécois
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In follow up from my previous post,
the lesson of the game is that immigration changes society and its' values.


The United States went from the most secular republic in the world and now it is; in theory, quite theocratic - and largely because the United States had an immigration system which placed no emphasis on societal values and largely only cared if you were white and Christian (at least until the 1965 immigration reform).

Even in Vancouver, British Columbia used to be known for being the laid back and "easy going" and even "radical" (in terms of social views) but massive Chinese immigrants brought in a culture of commercialization and "spend spend spend" and both the Chinese and East Indians are quite conservative people compared to progressive British Columbians.

Politically, this has spelled doom for my province's socialism. Chinese and East. Indians do not vote BCNDP but B.C. Liberal; hence, the B.C. Liberal Party has a major incentive to increase immigration.
 
BaalsTears
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Quote: Originally Posted by Avro View Post

Same reason Tim Mcviegh did....he's nuts.

Tim McVeigh wasn't nuts. If he was insane he could not have been convicted under American law. That's called the Insanity Defense. I suspect you have something similar in Canada. Tim McVeigh was executed by Bill Clinton, and there has been no repeat of his type of terrorism since.

You have no evidence that Imam Anwar al Awlaki, alias Yankee Doodle Dandee, is nuts. None whatsoever. You and I both know that.

But we do have evidence that the Right Reverend Awar al Awlaki is the mentor of terrorists such as the American terrorist Nidal Malik Hasan. Btw, do you think Dr. Hasan is nuts too?
 
Avro
No Party Affiliation
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTears View Post

Tim McVeigh wasn't nuts. If he was insane he could not have been convicted under American law. That's called the Insanity Defense. I suspect you have something similar in Canada. Tim McVeigh was executed by Bill Clinton, and there has been no repeat of his type of terrorism since.

You have no evidence that Imam Anwar al Awlaki, alias Yankee Doodle Dandee, is nuts. None whatsoever. You and I both know that.

But we do have evidence that the Right Reverend Awar al Awlaki is the mentor of terrorists such as the American terrorist Nidal Malik Hasan. Btw, do you think Dr. Hasan is nuts too?

Anyone who blows up a building full of people is nuts.

What is your definition of nuts?

There are crazy people in this world....I think anyone who believes in any God is nuts but the ones who radicalise it are complete wackos.

So what happens now? Do we have Americans dropping names and ruining honest peoples lives because they are "Muslim"?

Perhaps they should be rounded up and given....showers...wink wink.

Americans are nuts.

Like I said, watching US news is like watching a cartoon.
 
BaalsTears
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Quote: Originally Posted by Avro View Post

Anyone who blows up a building full of people is nuts...

Anwar al Awlaki hasn't blown up a building. According to your definition he's not nuts.

Quote: Originally Posted by Avro View Post

...
What is your definition of nuts?

In the final analysis no one is insane until a Judge says so. I love the law.

Quote: Originally Posted by Avro View Post

..
There are crazy people in this world....I think anyone who believes in any God is nuts but the ones who radicalise it are complete wackos.

That's only true if a Judge says so.
 
TenPenny
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTears View Post

Anwar al Awlaki hasn't blown up a building. According to your definition he's not nuts.

Say what? By your reasoning, saying that 4 is not equal to 8 means that it must be equal to 6.
 
BaalsTears
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Quote: Originally Posted by Avro View Post

...So what happens now? Do we have Americans dropping names and ruining honest peoples lives because they are "Muslim"?

Perhaps they should be rounded up and given....showers...wink wink....

What happens now? That's simple. We ignore the American Muslims and we figuratively go after American leftists with hammers and tongs. We **** them up real bad.

Quote: Originally Posted by Avro View Post

...Americans are nuts.

Like I said, watching US news is like watching a cartoon.

Yeah, I know.

Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

Say what? By your reasoning, saying that 4 is not equal to 8 means that it must be equal to 6.

Hola Jefe,

What's your affiliation?

Anyone heard the news from Wisconsin? It's wonderful.
 
TenPenny
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTears View Post

What's your affiliation?
Anyone heard the news from Wisconsin? It's wonderful.

I'm affiliated with the International Pointless Speculation Workers, Local 2.73.
 
BaalsTears
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Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny View Post

I'm affiliated with the International Pointless Speculation Workers, Local 2.73.

Wrong answer.

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Durry
+1
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Well there is a lot of concern the Americans have regarding the radicalization of young Muslims .
I think in a democracy they have a perfect right to investigate and determine if there is anything to this kind of suspision.
After all, they experienced a heavy loss by people who were Muslims who were motivated by the Muslim religion.

The Americans have a right to protect themselves and to carry out whatever investigations they need in order to secure their safety and freedom.
 
BaalsTears
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There are so few Muslims in America it really doesn't make a difference. Let American Muslims do what they want. If they kill us, we'll kill them right back. What could be fairer than that?
 
Goober
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by Durry View Post

Well there is a lot of concern the Americans have regarding the radicalization of young Muslims .
I think in a democracy they have a perfect right to investigate and determine if there is anything to this kind of suspision.
After all, they experienced a heavy loss by people who were Muslims who were motivated by the Muslim religion.

The Americans have a right to protect themselves and to carry out whatever investigations they need in order to secure their safety and freedom.

And what about all these heavily armed Militias that seem to abound thru the US. And then the religious cults, please do not forget them in your race to a racist attitude and belief.
 
BaalsTears
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Why does Obama's Director of Counter Terrorism identify American born and raised Anwar al Awlaki as the no. one terrorist threat to Americans?
 
Durry
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Quote: Originally Posted by Goober View Post

And what about all these heavily armed Militias that seem to abound thru the US. And then the religious cults, please do not forget them in your race to a racist attitude and belief.

They didn't kill 3000 people, destroy 2 buildings +, damage the American economy and provoke a war.

Get real dumbo !!
 
Goober
Free Thinker
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by Durry View Post

They didn't kill 3000 people, destroy 2 buildings +, damage the American economy and provoke a war.

Get real dumbo !!

Add the numbers up of armed Militias and deaths over 20-30 years. They are both crazy -A fanatic is a fanatic. Just as you hatred of Muslim becomes abundantly clear.
Dumbo, really - What a literate reply.
 
BaalsTears
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Quote: Originally Posted by Goober View Post

Add the numbers up of armed Militias and deaths over 20-30 years. They are both crazy -A fanatic is a fanatic. Just as you hatred of Muslim becomes abundantly clear.
Dumbo, really - What a literate reply.

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Trotz
Bloc Québécois
#25
Aren't those people a bit young? I thought the original protesters were all old boomer dinosaurs who wanted more out of the gravy train.

I guess Gerald Celente was right, these "Youth Revolts" are coming to the United States and it's not a revolt about Democracy. People under 35 are starting to voice their concerns over a lack of jobs, a lack of homes, a lack of a future and the "no platform" policies of the careerist boomer politicians.
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
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IRA terrorism:




King is proud of his affiliation with them.
 
Skatchie
No Party Affiliation
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I love the American way. They only take the extremes. And they agree on the issues that are actually ruining the nation. They agree on fighting everybody and borrowing to do it, and allowing private banks to run their monetary policies. but they argue about abortion, same sex marriage, and religious freedom. Right on. What's really stupid is that the people, to this point, actually think these BS issues like this clown brought up, are brought up out of actual interest and not just to distract from the real issues that both parties agree on. It's the ultimate, "hey look over there, the liberals are doin' stuff,"

"don't look at us, they always do stuff. We just react to the stuff they do."

And the average sheep out there thinks either the Republicans are great and the evil liberals are ruining the world because they do stuff or that Obama is jesus' cousin like John the Baptist or something, sent here to pave the way for a return to socialistic glory.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. fools
 
Durry
#28
Tell somebody who cares.,, eh !!
 
BaalsTears
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Quote: Originally Posted by Trotz View Post

Aren't those people a bit young? I thought the original protesters were all old boomer dinosaurs who wanted more out of the gravy train.

I guess Gerald Celente was right, these "Youth Revolts" are coming to the United States and it's not a revolt about Democracy. People under 35 are starting to voice their concerns over a lack of jobs, a lack of homes, a lack of a future and the "no platform" policies of the careerist boomer politicians.

The Univeristy of Wisconsin is just a few blocks from the State Capitol.

Here are some tweets from typical American leftists: Death wishes and hate to Gov. Walker on twitter | The Right Scoop

Quote: Originally Posted by Skatchie View Post

I love the American way. They only take the extremes. And they agree on the issues that are actually ruining the nation. They agree on fighting everybody and borrowing to do it, and allowing private banks to run their monetary policies. but they argue about abortion, same sex marriage, and religious freedom. Right on. What's really stupid is that the people, to this point, actually think these BS issues like this clown brought up, are brought up out of actual interest and not just to distract from the real issues that both parties agree on. It's the ultimate, "hey look over there, the liberals are doin' stuff,"

"don't look at us, they always do stuff. We just react to the stuff they do."

And the average sheep out there thinks either the Republicans are great and the evil liberals are ruining the world because they do stuff or that Obama is jesus' cousin like John the Baptist or something, sent here to pave the way for a return to socialistic glory.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. fools

The country can't be saved, but we can still figuratively kill each other. I know this won't turn out well. At this point, that's irrelevant. Canada is like an innocent pedestrian who gets caught in the crosswalk during a car chase.
 
Trotz
Bloc Québécois
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Quote: Originally Posted by Skatchie View Post

I love the American way. They only take the extremes. And they agree on the issues that are actually ruining the nation. They agree on fighting everybody and borrowing to do it, and allowing private banks to run their monetary policies. but they argue about abortion, same sex marriage, and religious freedom. Right on. What's really stupid is that the people, to this point, actually think these BS issues like this clown brought up, are brought up out of actual interest and not just to distract from the real issues that both parties agree on. It's the ultimate, "hey look over there, the liberals are doin' stuff,"

"don't look at us, they always do stuff. We just react to the stuff they do."

And the average sheep out there thinks either the Republicans are great and the evil liberals are ruining the world because they do stuff or that Obama is jesus' cousin like John the Baptist or something, sent here to pave the way for a return to socialistic glory.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. fools

1984.
According to the mainstream media, it is the Republicans and especially racist conservatives who run the establishment. Worse yet, there is a "Nazi Boogeyman" (yet we can't identify him!?) in the closet - attempting to overthrow the state! And worse yet, that Nazi is to be blamed for all our social ills...


This may had been the case in the 1960s; when the boomers were teenagers experimenting with hard drugs and unprotected sex and were doing things like throwing bags of feces at the police, but is no longer the case.

The "anti-Establishment" left is now the establishment. This had been the case when the depression generation had entered retirement in the 1980's and 1990's.

By establishment, I don't mean the Presidency (Bush receives his "2 minutes of hate" on a hourly basis) but the courts... and the courts have made it no secret about their thoughts on reverse discrimination, affirmitive action, gun seizures, "free speech" (or lack thereof), open borders; et al. And worse yet, we have alphabet soup truespeak institutions like the "Institute for Peace" in the United States.



In a way, I sometimes believe we have "Soft Stalinism" in North America.

1. American man (free of race and religion) vs. Soviet man (free of race and religion)
2. Implementation of hate laws vs. say something racist and you get a vacation to the Siberian Gulag
3. Some gun rights vs. Gun ownership punishable by death
4. Wealthy Elite pushing tax cuts vs. Wealthy elite pushing tax hikes (who paid for Stalin's dachas and private automobiles?!!?)


If we didn't have our system of "balance and checks" than the United States would probably be just like the Soviet Union. Horrible to think about it. We obviously valued our freedom in the past but not anymore. We are just as "free" as the "free Soviet Man" was under Stalin.